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| 03:50 | <Qantourisc> | "xen is relinquishing vga" <= is that an error or a warning |
| 04:01 | <Qantourisc> | ok xen seems to boot |
| 04:01 | <Qantourisc> | but when he should load the kernel he just reboots |
| 04:22 | <Qantourisc> | found it i think |
| 04:23 | <Qantourisc> | i compiled backend and frontend in the same kernel ... |
| 04:23 | <hensema> | that should be no problem |
| 04:24 | <hensema> | most distributions also use the same kernel in dom0 and domU |
| 04:24 | <Qantourisc> | ow |
| 04:24 | <Qantourisc> | so why does it reboot then |
| 04:24 | <hensema> | hard to tell |
| 04:24 | <hensema> | does 'xm dmesg' give any meaningful information? |
| 04:25 | <Qantourisc> | when can i run that command ? |
| 04:25 | <Qantourisc> | (i'm trying to boot dom0) |
| 04:25 | <hensema> | a, right |
| 04:25 | <hensema> | you could hook up a serial cable to the machine and try to capture messages via serial console |
| 04:26 | <Qantourisc> | ow ? |
| 04:26 | <Qantourisc> | why can't they apear on screen ? |
| 04:26 | <hensema> | they probably do, but they disappear too fast to be read before the reboot |
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| 04:26 | <Qantourisc> | hensema: hmmm .... |
| 04:27 | <Qantourisc> | ok lets me see |
| 04:27 | <Qantourisc> | rats my laptop doesn't has serial |
| 04:27 | <Qantourisc> | let me see what i can find |
| 04:33 | <Qantourisc> | ok serial cable found |
| 04:33 | <Qantourisc> | now .... how do i read this crap :) |
| 04:34 | <hensema> | in grub on your xen machine: |
| 04:34 | <hensema> | serial --unit=0 --speed=115200 --word=8 --parity=no --stop=1 |
| 04:34 | <hensema> | terminal --timeout=10 serial console |
| 04:34 | <hensema> | kernel /boot/xen.gz console=com1 com1=115200 |
| 04:34 | <Qantourisc> | just rties :)p |
| 04:34 | <Qantourisc> | dead easy :) |
| 04:35 | <Qantourisc> | you can use it as a block device sweet :) |
| 04:35 | <Qantourisc> | wow lengthy :) |
| 04:35 | <Qantourisc> | ok lets all add that stuf |
| 04:39 | <Qantourisc> | lot of text to add though :) |
| 04:40 | <Qantourisc> | lets see |
| 04:41 | <Qantourisc> | hmmm |
| 04:41 | <Qantourisc> | didn't work for me :) |
| 04:41 | <Qantourisc> | i got a bunch of blocks :) |
| 04:41 | <hensema> | no useful messages? |
| 04:41 | <Qantourisc> | hmm maybe the input is configured wrong |
| 04:41 | <Qantourisc> | no serial link doesn't work :) |
| 04:42 | <Qantourisc> | how do i set the spede and such on the receiving machine ? |
| 04:42 | <hensema> | I use minicom with this config: |
| 04:42 | <hensema> | pr port /dev/ttyUSB15 |
| 04:42 | <hensema> | pu baudrate 115200 |
| 04:42 | <hensema> | pu minit |
| 04:42 | <hensema> | pu mreset |
| 04:42 | <hensema> | pu rtscts No |
| 04:42 | <hensema> | in /etc/minirc.$name |
| 04:42 | <hensema> | then start as "minicom $name" |
| 04:42 | <Qantourisc> | well this is a live cd, i don't have this luctuary |
| 04:43 | <Qantourisc> | but with both live cd's it worked without setting anything |
| 04:43 | <hensema> | it's 115200 8n1 |
| 04:43 | <Qantourisc> | (me tries withtout the serial speed setting) |
| 04:43 | <Qantourisc> | that works |
| 04:43 | <Qantourisc> | wemllll |
| 04:43 | <Qantourisc> | partially |
| 04:44 | <Qantourisc> | as soon as i get to kernel it goes crappy serial ouitput again ... quess that's why you need that config |
| 04:45 | <hensema> | well, it's a bit unclear to me how serial output of the kernel can be captured |
| 04:45 | <hensema> | in xen 3.0.x it just worked for me, but it shouldn't have according to some people here |
| 04:45 | <Qantourisc> | ghehe :) |
| 04:45 | <hensema> | and in xen 3.1.x it really doesn't work anymore ;) |
| 04:45 | <Qantourisc> | what doesn't work ? |
| 04:45 | <Qantourisc> | or shouldn't work ? |
| 04:45 | <Qantourisc> | the serial thing? |
| 04:46 | <hensema> | in xen 3.1 I can't capture serial output of the kernel |
| 04:46 | <Qantourisc> | i just want a simple error output ;( |
| 04:46 | <Qantourisc> | a well i want that |
| 04:46 | <Qantourisc> | as the kernel is 9/10 crashing up |
| 04:46 | <Qantourisc> | but my eyes are fast ... |
| 04:46 | <Qantourisc> | i'd see it if the kernel was spitting out code |
| 04:46 | <Qantourisc> | but it isn't |
| 04:47 | <Qantourisc> | well nothing i can see |
| 04:47 | <hensema> | you could try and remove the com1= param from xen and add to the kernel command line: console=tty0 console=ttyS0,115200n8 |
| 04:48 | <Qantourisc> | came out blank |
| 04:48 | <Qantourisc> | then again the kernel might not have any serial driver enabvled :) |
| 04:48 | * | Qantourisc checlks |
| 04:51 | <Qantourisc> | hensema: "CONFIG_XEN_DISABLE_SERIAL" |
| 04:51 | <Qantourisc> | should that be on or off ? |
| 04:52 | <hensema> | I don't know, never compiled xen myself |
| 04:53 | <Qantourisc> | hehe |
| 04:53 | <Qantourisc> | luky you :) |
| 04:54 | <Qantourisc> | pronblem is on this pc it talkes AAAAGES |
| 04:54 | <Qantourisc> | to compile |
| 04:56 | * | Qantourisc wishes someone smart would join soon :) |
| 05:00 | <Qantourisc> | sweeet |
| 05:00 | <Qantourisc> | i get stuff |
| 05:00 | <Qantourisc> | but it's strange |
| 05:00 | <Qantourisc> | veryr verrry strange |
| 05:00 | <Qantourisc> | afk have to go to a meeting |
| 05:08 | <Qantourisc> | back .... guy is not there yet |
| 05:08 | <Qantourisc> | but i seee no errors |
| 05:08 | <Qantourisc> | all i see is a kernel getitng stuck |
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| 05:10 | <Qantourisc> | fuzzy: can you help me ? i have no clue where to start loookging |
| 05:12 | <hensema> | could you paste the last 10-20 lines in a pastebin and post the link here? |
| 05:12 | <Qantourisc> | sure after the meeating |
| 05:12 | <Qantourisc> | but i can't detect anything special |
| 05:13 | <hensema> | that doesn't mean there isn't anything special ;) |
| 06:09 | <Qantourisc> | heeh |
| 06:09 | <Qantourisc> | ok sec |
| 06:09 | <Qantourisc> | hmmm let me think how i can place this online |
| 06:10 | <Qantourisc> | hensema: the most notable fact is that is starts and ends with the linux version string |
| 06:10 | <Qantourisc> | hmmmm this kernel is SMP enabled |
| 06:10 | <Qantourisc> | must go eat now , |
| 06:10 | <Qantourisc> | back later |
| 06:10 | <Qantourisc> | then i'll post it online |
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| 06:36 | <Qantourisc> | hensema: the pc doesn't has internet so i'll have to type it over |
| 06:43 | <Qantourisc> | http://rafb.net/p/Y1U7OC73.html |
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| 06:47 | <hensema> | very weird you get to kernel version strings |
| 06:48 | <hensema> | *two |
| 06:48 | <Qantourisc> | cbe'e' |
| 06:48 | <Qantourisc> | indeed |
| 06:49 | <Qantourisc> | going to try a differnt kernel compilation who knows |
| 06:49 | <Qantourisc> | withotu smp and such |
| 06:49 | <Qantourisc> | the kernel is HUGE (4MB) =) |
| 06:49 | <hensema> | is your grub config correct? |
| 06:49 | <Qantourisc> | posisbly$ |
| 06:49 | <Qantourisc> | well the kernel DOES start in a way |
| 06:50 | <Qantourisc> | and the kernel doesn't seem to be complaining "can't find root" |
| 06:50 | <Qantourisc> | so imo grub should be ok |
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| 06:51 | <hensema> | Qantourisc: http://rafb.net/p/DRdipi81.html |
| 06:51 | <Qantourisc> | prityt mutch what i have |
| 06:52 | <Qantourisc> | i can upload the grub of this pc if you like, this one has network |
| 06:55 | <Qantourisc> | hensema: hmm m what should be the subarchitecture for dom0? |
| 06:56 | <hensema> | I don't know, I don't like compiling software |
| 06:56 | <hensema> | I just use vendor kernels, they work :) |
| 06:57 | <Qantourisc> | well i don't have one :à |
| 07:00 | <Qantourisc> | what bugs me the most is that it recompiles the entire kernel all the time |
| 07:00 | <Qantourisc> | normally only a small fraction is rebuild on recompile |
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| 08:23 | <Qantourisc> | Is the swap shared in xen ? |
| 08:24 | <hensema> | no |
| 08:24 | <Qantourisc> | intresting issue :) |
| 08:24 | <Qantourisc> | so it doesn't make sence to make a 1GB swap |
| 08:25 | <Qantourisc> | kinda silly the memory isn't shared :( |
| 08:25 | <Qantourisc> | it's just splitted up :( |
| 08:26 | <Qantourisc> | i hope you can atleast resize it on the fly ? |
| 08:27 | <hensema> | if you want shared memory then you'll have to use something like virtuozzo |
| 08:28 | <hensema> | you can resize memory with xm mem-set |
| 08:28 | <hensema> | does dom0 boot now? |
| 08:28 | <Qantourisc> | yes |
| 08:28 | <Qantourisc> | and i notised oi made a 100 mB swap :) |
| 08:28 | <Qantourisc> | sorta silly :) |
| 08:28 | <Qantourisc> | i'm still not sure why xen is good |
| 08:29 | <Qantourisc> | is it |
| 08:29 | <Qantourisc> | ? |
| 08:29 | <hensema> | define 'good' |
| 08:29 | <hensema> | xen is extremely bad at making cheese |
| 08:29 | <Qantourisc> | in this case |
| 08:29 | <hensema> | I don't know your case |
| 08:29 | <Qantourisc> | easy to use, free, not wasting the litle memory i have (512MB) |
| 08:30 | <Qantourisc> | will need to host 4 computers |
| 08:31 | <Qantourisc> | (xen host will have enough with 64mb when running, but needs around 300 when updating) |
| 08:31 | <Qantourisc> | the rest wil lneed around 100 mb i think |
| 08:32 | <hensema> | xen itself takes 64 MB |
| 08:32 | <Qantourisc> | wow ? |
| 08:33 | <Qantourisc> | hmmm this is strange |
| 08:33 | <Qantourisc> | my swap IS 1GB large ? |
| 08:33 | <Qantourisc> | so how comes .... i only get 100 mb of it ? |
| 08:34 | <Qantourisc> | well in any case it's silly ... so i'm removing the 1 gb swap |
| 08:35 | <Qantourisc> | well MB isn't to expensive these days ... so i quess we could order more mem if needed |
| 08:35 | <Qantourisc> | the hdd performance of 4 MB/s has me woried though |
| 08:35 | <Qantourisc> | almost makes me thing the hdd is broken |
| 08:35 | <hensema> | I think you just shouldn't run gentoo |
| 08:35 | <hensema> | try redhat/fedora or suse/opensuse |
| 08:36 | <hensema> | gentoo is nice for in-home use, and xen isn't |
| 08:36 | <hensema> | (of course, if you've got a lot of gentoo expertise around this argument doesn't count) |
| 08:38 | <Qantourisc> | gentoo isn't a real isuse i think |
| 08:38 | <Qantourisc> | they don't know how to use ANY distro anyway |
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| 09:57 | <hensema> | yay, I've got an iscsi-backed vdb working :) |
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| 11:41 | <hensema> | I'm trying to create my first HVM domain, but it shuts down as soon as the domain is unpaused after waiting on the hotplug scripts to finish |
| 11:41 | <hensema> | [2008-02-19 17:36:20 4133][2008-02-19 17:36:20 4133] INFO (XendDomain:1141) Domain win2k3 (21) unpaused. |
| 11:41 | <hensema> | [2008-02-19 17:36:20 4133][2008-02-19 17:36:20 4133] INFO (XendDomainInfo:1182) Domain has shutdown: name=win2k3 id=21 reason=poweroff. |
| 11:41 | <hensema> | there are no obvious errors in the xend logs |
| 11:42 | <hensema> | I'm trying to boot a cdrom image to install windows server 2003 |
| 11:43 | <hensema> | there's no output on the console (don't know if I should expect any though) except for 'Started domain win2k3' |
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| 11:43 | <hensema> | any clue? |
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| 11:54 | <hensema> | hmmm, I used a disk= line for the cdrom image, I'll have to try wether a cdrom= line works |
| 12:00 | <hensema> | no difference |
| 12:00 | <hensema> | anyway, got to go |
| 12:00 | <hensema> | bbl |
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