TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#xen:2007:02:16

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09:20	<redfire>	hda: unknown partition table
09:20	<redfire>	VFS: Cannot open root device "hda1" or unknown-block(3,1)
09:20	<redfire>	Please append a correct "root=" boot option
09:20	<redfire>	Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,1)
09:21	<redfire>	same image and domu config under xend server works
09:21	<redfire>	but with my kernel doesnt
09:21	<redfire>	what im missing?
09:21	<redfire>	and
09:21	<redfire>	btw hi
09:21	<redfire>	:)
09:22	<icblenke>	that's a very vague and difficult question. did you build your kernel with the same .config? did you build your initrd with the modular drivers?
09:23	<redfire>	well i even tried the config from xend server boot
09:23	<redfire>	same pro
09:23	<redfire>	b
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09:34	<redfire>	http://afaik.pl/xen/config.txt
09:34	<redfire>	thats the current confi im fooling with
09:36	<redfire>	http://afaik.pl/xen/domu.txt
09:36	<redfire>	and domu config
09:36	<icblenke>	any reason you're not using the initrd?
09:37	<redfire>	well i tried it with mkinitrd /boot/blabla 2.6.version
09:37	<redfire>	didnt help at all
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09:42	<redfire>	http://afaik.pl/xen/config-2.6.16.29-xs3.1.0.289.2650xen
09:42	<redfire>	i tried even this one
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10:43	<trondaso>	hi all :-)
10:43	<trondaso>	i'm playing around with the virtual addresses and the machine addresses of a domU kernel, and I'm not sure if what I'm seeing makes sense, or if I'm making some mistakes
10:44	<trondaso>	i basically look up the machine address of a virtual address in the domU kernels page tables, but i'm a bit puzzled by the output:
10:44	<trondaso>	virt_address = 0xc0100000
10:44	<trondaso>	mach_address = 0x12c3f000
10:44	<trondaso>	virt_address = 0xc0101000
10:44	<trondaso>	mach_address = 0x12c3e000
10:44	<trondaso>	virt_address = 0xc0102000
10:44	<trondaso>	mach_address = 0x12c3d000
10:44	<trondaso>	while the virtual addresses are increasing, the machine addresses
10:44	<trondaso>	are decreasing...
10:45	<trondaso>	can this be a correct mapping?
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10:47	<brendan>	I think so.
10:47	<brendan>	if m2p and p2m agree, you should be ok
10:47	<brendan>	oops, nm
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10:53	<trondaso>	ok, i want to map several pages of domUs memory into dom0. i was thinking i could map several pages at once using xc_map_foreign_range, but this means that is not a very good idea, or am i mistaken?
10:54	<brendan>	map_foreign_batch might be better
10:55	<trondaso>	ok, thanks :-)
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12:08	<trento>	esx or xen?
12:08	<trento>	we just bought a vmware esx
12:09	<murb>	doesn't esx implly lots of managment foo?
12:09	<murb>	shouldn't you really compare it iwth xen enterprise?
12:09	<trento>	whas the big difference though
12:09	<trento>	xen is opensource ok
12:09	<trento>	there's a xen enterprice?
12:09	<murb>	it is a product from XenSource Inc.
12:09	<trento>	ok
12:10	<trento>	how good is it if you wanted to do linux with AD
12:10	<murb>	http://www.xensource.com/products/xen_enterprise/
12:10	<trento>	active directory
12:10	<trento>	through esx it sounds bad
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12:10	<trento>	through xen?
12:10	<murb>	I have no idea.
12:11	<murb>	isn't the virtuliser you choose orthogonal to that?
12:11	<trento>	but its just horrible in vmware esx
12:11	<trento>	MS tries to make that interoperability difficult. but perhaps that is changing with MS/Novell deal now..
12:12	<trento>	also, unix is case sensitive about accounts too, ad isn't
12:12	<hollisb>	what does Active Directory have to do with the hypervisor?
12:12	<murb>	hollisb: i'm trying to find out!
12:13	<hollisb>	trento?
12:14	<murb>	hollisb: it might be relevant to the management tools.
12:15	<trento>	think i confused myself
12:17	<trento>	juping topics:)
12:19	<trento>	ok now back to xen
12:20	<trento>	does esx xen work for ppc yet?
12:20	<trento>	or only x86 macs
12:20	<hollisb>	Xen does work on PPC, but sadly not on Macs
12:20	<hollisb>	(and there is no "ESX Xen")
12:21	<trento>	so the opposite
12:21	<trento>	of what esx supports
12:21	<trento>	i missed a ,
12:22	<hollisb>	trento: why, do you have PPC Macs you want to run Xen on?
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12:23	<trento>	nay dont care about ppc
12:23	<trento>	either ways for each, i think i can get it working using either xen or esx
12:23	<trento>	so not to worry
12:23	<hollisb>	I... see
12:24	<trento>	meaning for x86 macs i'd go with esx
12:24	<trento>	xen i could use it for ppc i guess
12:24	<trento>	ah from ibm
12:25	<trento>	ecxplains why you're here ppc xen supports your blade servers... don't they?
12:25	<trento>	:D
12:25	<hollisb>	"support" is a strong word, but yes Xen runs on IBM's PowerPC blades
12:28	<trento>	well looks more like it else why?
12:28	<trento>	you can run ESX on IBM blade servers
12:29	<trento>	end of the day stupid marketing strategies
12:29	<waldi>	hollisb: the powerpc blades also supports the ibm hypervisor
12:33	<hollisb>	waldi: yup, the newer ones do (JS21)
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12:35	<trento>	sweet
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12:47	<symerian>	anyone have a clue on why i can't use xen images from jailtime.org on a rhel5 beta2 ?
12:47	<icblenke>	many of those images are Xen 2.0
12:48	<icblenke>	upgrade the domU kernel to whatever kernel you are using, and the images will work (to whatever extent your domU kernel provides needed kernel devices for userspace to use)
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12:48	<symerian>	icblenke: yes but they do work on my debian box
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12:49	<icblenke>	what version of debian? what kernel? what hypervisor? don't work under rhel5 how? what dies? do you have any console logs? did you try on_crash = "preserve" to see what may be the problem?
12:50	<icblenke>	"gas makes my vehicle go. but it doesn't make my other vehicle go. why not?"
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12:51	<killing-joke>	details, details
12:51	<symerian>	icblenke: here they come (details ;))
12:51	<icblenke>	that's where the devil lies.
12:51	<killing-joke>	can't you just shake some "guru dust" on it, Ian? :)
12:52	<icblenke>	killing-joke: I'd much rather sell that dust and let others do the shaking.
12:52	<killing-joke>	lol!
12:53	<symerian>	icblenke: http://www.pastebin.ca/359318
12:54	<icblenke>	that sounds like you have a corrupt disk.
12:54	<symerian>	icblenke: my loop device ?
12:56	<icblenke>	corrupt image.
12:56	<icblenke>	try fscking it?
12:56	<symerian>	icblenke: fsck.ext3 centos.4-4.img
12:56	<symerian>	e2fsck 1.39 (29-May-2006)
12:56	<symerian>	centos.4-4.img: clean, 12872/128256 files, 86680/256256 blocks (check in 4 mounts)
12:58	<icblenke>	it could be a number of different things.
12:58	<icblenke>	that you're booting at all to the point where fsck can run suggests that the filesystem is at least mounted to get to fsck
12:59	<icblenke>	are you booting with "ro" or is it booting "rw" and trying to fsck a rw mounted root filesystem?
12:59	<symerian>	icblenke: http://www.pastebin.ca/359327 <== config file
13:00	<icblenke>	root="/dev/sdb1 ro" should be mappint to "root=/dev/sdb1 ro", which suggests you should be booting to a read-only mounted root filesystem so that fsck can run during boot.
13:01	<symerian>	rw you mean right ?
13:01	<icblenke>	my next step would be to add a "set -x" to the top of my rcS init script
13:01	<icblenke>	no. I mean ro. your init scripts will remount / as rw after fsck passes cleanly.
13:08	<symerian>	icblenke: one step ahead, now it hangs after starting up sshd :( not easy to use on rhel5 :-(
13:10	<killing-joke>	i had a similar prob with FC6. no daemons finished starting.
13:10	<symerian>	killing-joke: how did you fixed it ?
13:10	<killing-joke>	i never did. i'm still working on it.
13:11	<symerian>	killing-joke: i see ;)
13:11	<killing-joke>	icblenke mentioned that references to the real-time clock could cause some problems
13:12	<killing-joke>	i commented out or turned off services that called hwclock etc
13:12	<icblenke>	rm -f /sbin/hwclock
13:12	<icblenke>	reboot. try again.
13:12	<killing-joke>	on FC6, this just made the problem occur later
13:13	<symerian>	killing-joke: i had to rebuild an initrd with xenblk module in it, you too ?
13:13	<killing-joke>	per the excellent advice of Our Guru, yes
13:13	<killing-joke>	that wasn't the problem
13:13	<killing-joke>	i can boot to /bin/bash just fine. have you tried that?
13:13	<symerian>	killing-joke: i know, what i can't understand is why they didn't put this module in the xen-kernel initrd
13:14	<symerian>	killing-joke: init 1 ?
13:14	<icblenke>	init=/bin/bash
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13:16	<symerian>	last try , and then i have to go home
13:18	<symerian>	+ /bin/egrep -q -v '^ *#' /etc/sysconfig/rawdevices
13:18	<symerian>	+ exit 0
13:18	<symerian>	and nothing more :(
13:18	<symerian>	damn !
13:19	<symerian>	anyway i'll take a look at this later, see you guys and thanks a lot for your help
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13:34	<jimix>	rharper: look like you got an assprint?
13:35	<hollisb>	snicker
13:36	[~]	jimix loves a good assprint
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13:39	<zul>	hey
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13:57	<Pivert>	Hello, is it easy to run dom-0 with kernel 2.6.19 (or 2.6.20) ?
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13:59	<Pivert>	In short : My xen dom-0 is also my HTPC, and I need a kernel >= 2.6.19 for the ivtv drivers (will buy a card for my mythtv)
13:59	<jimix>	rharper: can you try this diff, should let you see the ofd_assert, http://rafb.net/p/cwD6dh34.html
14:02	<Pivert>	Do I have a chance to have my dom-0 running with kernel 2.6.19 ?
14:02	<waldi>	yes
14:03	<waldi>	http://hg.et.redhat.com/kernel/linux-2.6.19-xen-3.0.4
14:13	<Pivert>	Mhh... I don't see exactly what/how should I download this kernel...
14:14	<waldi>	use hg
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14:31	<Pivert>	Just emerged hg... What command should I use ? hg pull http://hg.et.redhat.com/kernel/linux-2.6.19-xen-3.0.4/ does not work...
14:34	<danp1>	s/pull/clone/
14:37	<Pivert>	Thanks !
14:42	<killing-joke>	i have a driver that uses a lot of memory. xen_create_contiguous_region() seems to be failing.
14:50	<Pivert>	Download is quite slow... What volume is the repository ?
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14:54	<danp1>	Pivert: that is a complete kernel tree, not simply a xen style sparse tree, so it'll take a while
14:54	<danp1>	if you want a quicker download then get the source RPMs instead
14:55	<danp1>	http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/source/SRPMS/kernel-xen-2.6-2.6.19-1.2898.2.3.fc7.src.rpm
14:57	<rharper>	jimix: yeah, your assprint crapped all over my xen boot. I'll give your rafb diff a try. =P
14:59	<jimix>	rharper: I suspect that will just give you the assert, the problem is in dart.c adding the dma_window to the OFD
14:59	<jimix>	rharper: ofd_prop_add found the property so tried to set it.
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15:05	<Pivert>	Thanks... Will try both...
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15:27	<rharper>	jimix: yep, got an assert
15:27	<rharper>	jimix: OFD:ASSERT581
15:28	<hollisb>	heh
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16:19	<jimix>	rharper, nice.. but the stack traceback is way more usefull, just wanted to make sure the ofd_write hook worked
16:20	<rharper>	jimix: yeah, sounded like you wanted to see the assert, just confirming
16:22	<jimix>	rharper: I did thanks.. I'll push that later.
16:22	<rharper>	np
16:23	<rharper>	ever seen this: domctl operation failed -- need to rebuild the user-space tool set I'm trying latest unstable (not ppc tree)
16:23	<hollisb>	rharper: yes
16:23	<jimix>	rharper: yeah.. that means the shadow size is bad
16:23	<hollisb>	rharper: it's a mismatch in the domctl version numbers
16:24	<hollisb>	jimix: no, that's different
16:24	<jimix>	hollisb: yeah.. you are right
16:24	<rharper>	that is strange, building xen and tools from same tree
16:24	<hollisb>	jimix: also, we should delete that case, because it's not like we have binary legacy
16:24	<hollisb>	rharper: we need the kernel to match though
16:24	<rharper>	oh
16:24	<rharper>	hrm
16:24	<hollisb>	rharper: hmm
16:24	<jimix>	rharper: hollisb is right.. your linux kernel is not matching
16:24	<hollisb>	rharper: I have a kernel patch too
16:24	<hollisb>	I guess I should send you that :)
16:24	<rharper>	well, then our linux-ppc-2.6.hg is hosed
16:24	<jimix>	hollisb: I think I already got rid of the shadow message
16:25	<hollisb>	rharper: it's not hosed, it's just not current with the merge tree
16:25	<rharper>	hollisb: right, sorry, poor choice.
16:25	<hollisb>	I will email you the patch
16:26	<rharper>	hollisb: thanks
16:26	<hollisb>	I haven't gotten around to resyncing xenppc-unstable with upstream
16:26	<rharper>	right, I figured I should be developing my patchset against regular unstable since we just merged
16:26	<hollisb>	yup, that would be ideal
16:27	<icblenke>	has anyone found _anything_ that can manipulate a microsoft .vhd file? I can only find vmdk2vhd and vhdexpand, both of which are .NET apps.
16:27	<hollisb>	rharper: sent
16:27	<rharper>	hollisb: excellent
16:28	<aliguori>	icblenke: qemu-img
16:28	<aliguori>	qemu can do anything
16:29	<hollisb>	qemu is so dreamy
16:29	<icblenke>	I can find no mention of .VHD though.
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16:29	<icblenke>	I've converted many a vmdk image to xen with qemu-img, btw.
16:29	<aliguori>	icblenke: vhd == vpc IIUC
16:30	<icblenke>	ah ha!
16:30	<icblenke>	well then, that'll do.
16:31	<icblenke>	and in retrospect, that makes perfect sense, as microsoft aquired them.
16:34	<killing-joke>	how would a person go about debugging dom0 memory allocation during driver initialization?
16:35	<killing-joke>	i have a driver that works fine with a 2.6.16.33 kernel on bare metal, but as a dom0 guest, it somehow runs out of ... something.
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17:10	<tessier_>	If you install Windows into a xen domain on a machine with the vt extensions how do you get a graphical console?
17:10	<tessier_>	Does xen give windows a virtual graphics card and then somehow export a vnc console?
17:10	<tessier_>	Seems I've seen something like that...
17:10	<icblenke>	yes.
17:11	<icblenke>	either an SDL console (X windows), or a VNC console. both to the raw framebuffer of the virtual video card.
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