TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#xen:2007:02:01

---	Log	opened Thu Feb 01 00:00:10 2007
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03:03	<rindolf>	Hi all.
03:03	<rindolf>	muli: here?
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05:01	<nantes_geek>	french channel for xen in : zelazny.freenode.net and : x#xenfr
05:01	<nantes_geek>	french channel for xen in : zelazny.freenode.net and : #xenfr
05:05	<tab>	better stay here then ;p
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13:02	<DrX0>	hello, i am thinking of running Fedora 6 on an server to run Xen with Intel VT since RHEL as I understand RHEL doesn't yet integrate Xen. Is there any upgrade path later?
13:04	<DrX0>	in general, what is the easiest distro to get Xen up and running? the most stable?
13:06	<danpb>	DrX0: there is no official upgrade path between Fedora & RHEL distributions
13:06	<danpb>	so unless you really can't wait a month or two for RHEL-5, then Fedora 6 is a good option for Xen
13:07	<DrX0>	can't wait... and SUSE/Xen is proving to be very, very unstable in my test lab. do you think I'll fare better with Fedora 6?
13:07	<danpb>	the Xen bits in Fedora 6 are pretty close to what's going to be in RHEL-5 because I've been pushing updates to FC6 Xen whenever we had new patches in the RHEL5 version of Xen
13:09	<DrX0>	danpb, if i want to run Xen in a supported environment, which vendor should i look to for paid support (XenSource, SUSE, Redhat, etc) and which distro do you think will give me the highest Xen reliability on Intel/VT in a supported environment?
13:10	<danpb>	DrX0: I'm biased because I work for Red Hat, so you can guess my answer :-)
13:10	<DrX0>	danpb, (I was leaning toward Novell, b/c I thought I could get support for the OS & Xen from a single vendor, but getting Xen up on SUSE has been an exercise in PAIN)
13:11	<DrX0>	danpb, what's my company going to have to pay for an unlimited annual support contract for RHEL?
13:12	<danpb>	DrX0: i've no idea about that side of things - i try to stay in development only - there's info on our webiste though
13:13	<DrX0>	danpb, what do you think about downloading RHEL5 and installing Xen now and upgrading to RHEL6 later versus running Fedora 6 now?
13:17	<icblenke>	DrX0: That is entirely up to you. It's not really a Xen development question though, perhaps ##xen on freenode is a better place to discuss this.
13:18	<DrX0>	icblenke, okay, thanks, say is the # convention usually development and ## usage across topics?
13:19	<brendan>	## means unofficial channel on freenode
13:20	<DrX0>	thanks
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13:26	<DrX0>	they're pretty quiet over there, would anyone here disagree that Fedora 6 is the easiest way to a reliable Xen deployment up and running?
13:27	<DrX0>	danp, do you know if I can run Windows 2003 Server + MS SQL under Fedora 6/Xen?
13:29	<danpb>	DrX0: in theory yes, it can be quite difficult to get it installed though
13:29	<danpb>	the support for HVM guests in Xen 3.0.3 is not as solid as stuff in xen-unstable
13:30	<DrX0>	danpb, does it freeze the same way that it does in SLES 10?
13:30	<danpb>	once you past the installer, its usually more reliable
13:30	<DrX0>	danpb, any tips to get past the installer stage?
13:31	<icblenke>	3.0.4 and newer solve most of the installer stage pain.
13:31	<danpb>	DrX0: play with apic & apic settings in the guest config file until you find the combo which works
13:32	<danpb>	and make sure you only give it a single VCPU
13:32	<icblenke>	DrX0: and, again, your questions really aren't developer questions. this channel is really for developers to discuss technical issues while developing xen-unstable.
13:32	<DrX0>	apologies, they just didn't seem to have much to say over there, but I'll try it again.
13:33	<icblenke>	right. but that really is the best place for your questions.
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15:16	<aya>	if i want to disable a pci device in Dom0 i have to add pciback.hide in my grub.conf however dom0 won't boot after the change. Could it be that i do not have pci backend installed?
15:18	<icblenke>	if dom0 won't boot, you're excluding a critical device in the boot sequence.. what pci device are you excluding?
15:18	<aya>	network card
15:19	<icblenke>	crazy question, but is that network card part of a motherboard chipset? (like an nvidia nforce?)
15:19	<aya>	no
15:19	<aya>	pci
15:21	<icblenke>	The pciback.hide is a Linux kernel parameter. You're not passing that to your xen hypervisor, are you?
15:21	<aya>	oh.
15:22	<aya>	i am passing it to the "title Xen 3.0.3-1-i386 ..." entry in the grub.conf
15:23	<icblenke>	grub.conf.. so you're using grub2?
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15:24	<aya>	no debain etch and i am passing it to /boot/grub/menu.lst
15:24	<icblenke>	is your pciback monolithic in your dom0 kernel, or a module?
15:24	<icblenke>	grub2 uses grub.conf, btw. grub legacy uses menu.lst
15:24	<aya>	sry
15:25	<aya>	how can i find out if it is monolithic?
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15:26	<aya>	i can shutdown my network card without shuting down my computer
15:27	<icblenke>	in dom0, run lsmod, see if you see "pciback" in the list.
15:27	<icblenke>	if you don't, you're running monolithic, and you need to add pciback.hide to your menu.lst
15:27	<icblenke>	if you do, you're running modular, and you need to add pciback.hid to your /etc/modules.conf as an option
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15:39	<aya>	i run lsmod and pciback is not listed. however i do not find /etc/modules.conf
15:40	<aya>	could it also be called /etc/modules
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15:48	<aya>	thank you it is working now
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16:05	<jimix>	rharper: did you not get a traceback on the slab corruption?
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16:06	<rharper>	jimix: nope, that's about it
16:06	<jimix>	rharper: during boot or from out of nowhere?
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16:07	<jimix>	rharper: dom0?
16:07	<rharper>	jimix: during heavy IO, dom0
16:07	<rharper>	I rsynced over xenppc-unstable to the blade
16:07	<jimix>	hmm.. that ain't too heavy
16:07	<rharper>	ok, well heavier than idle
16:07	<jimix>	ok.. I'll keep an eye our for it
16:08	<jimix>	anything interesting around the message in demsg?
16:08	<rharper>	yeah, I'll make sure I have my system.map current around so I can look up the addr
16:08	<jimix>	rharper: ^^
16:08	<rharper>	ioctl32(showconsole:772): Unknown cmd fd(0) cmd(40045432){00} arg(ffcd3b48) on /dev/console
16:08	<rharper>	never seen that before
16:08	<jimix>	rharper: thats normal actually
16:08	<rharper>	heh
16:08	<jimix>	xenconsole doens't take the ioclt
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16:08	<rharper>	ok, then no, nothing else interesting
16:09	<jimix>	k
16:09	<jimix>	rharper: is it still running?
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16:10	<rharper>	jimix: yeah, I'm rebuilding the filesystem tree right now, I have two fatal errors on it
16:11	<jimix>	rharper: is this with your bits?
16:11	<rharper>	when it is done, I'll bring it back up on network
16:11	<rharper>	jimix: yes
16:11	<rharper>	though I've seen it before
16:11	<rharper>	not on my latest patches
16:11	<jimix>	rharper: last time I saw that it was becaaus we got the flatdevtree reservations wrong but in domus
16:11	<rharper>	jimix: interesting
16:11	<jimix>	but that does not apply to dom0
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16:12	<rharper>	jimix: right, I've not changed dom0 tree yet
16:12	<jimix>	rharper: unless the reservation logic in prom_init.c is incorrect
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16:14	[~]	jimix wonders if there is anything that help you debug these corruptions?
16:14	<rharper>	well, I need to clean up the filesystem and see if I can repro anyway first
16:15	<rharper>	heh, running fsck in runlevel 1 trips up the softlockup timer bug
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16:16	<jimix>	rharper: bugzilla that one please
16:16	<rharper>	k
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16:17	<hollisb>	rharper: yeah, I'd like to know if you can reproduce without your patches. maybe we are getting reservations wrong?
16:18	<rharper>	hollisb: yeah, I plan to roll back to xen+linux without my patches. Though, nothing in my patches touches dom0 or xen w.r.t device tree
16:18	<jimix>	rharper: hollisb: dom0_mem=64M should choke it out
16:18	<hollisb>	rharper: oh, that's true
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16:19	<hollisb>	rharper: actually I have a question about your patch 2/4 though: it looks like you're putting machine addrs into the device tree?
16:19	<hollisb>	er
16:19	<hollisb>	3/4
16:19	<hollisb>	no
16:19	<hollisb>	2/4 :)
16:20	<rharper>	yeah, I guess I am, I need to turn those to guest physical? and have linux switch back?
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16:20	<jimix>	rharper: hollisb: oh yeah.. I saw that.. I though it was just symbolic.
16:20	<jimix>	rharper: maddrs couldnot have resulted in a working domu :-P
16:20	<rharper>	right, the value is 0x3fffe000
16:20	<rharper>	which I thought was guest physical
16:21	<hollisb>	did you typo an extra F in there?
16:21	<rharper>	lemme do the math
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16:22	<jimix>	rharper: it is, but you call it "*_maddr"
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16:22	<rharper>	0x3ffe000
16:22	<rharper>	hollisb: yeah, typo'ed extra f
16:23	<hollisb>	yeah, these variables are just misnamed
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16:24	<rharper>	yeah
16:25	<hollisb>	don't resend; I'll just fix here
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---	Log	closed Fri Feb 02 00:00:15 2007