TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#xen:2006:03:15

---	Log	opened Wed Mar 15 00:00:29 2006
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02:55	<simes>	tips & tricks for installing windows as a domU
02:55	<simes>	on the wiki i haven't found anything...
03:00	<simes>	i assume that if i load a "working" qemu image it should be ok
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10:24	<harry_>	Can anyone confirm that PAE guests on 32 bit PAE xen is currently not implemented?
10:25	<aliguori>	harry_, that should be the only configuration that is implemented
10:26	<aliguori>	no-pae guests on pae xen is not currently implemented
10:26	<harry_>	That's a simple answer to bug#497 then.
10:27	<hollisb>	sad, no checkins last night
10:27	<hollisb>	I guess something broke in the staging tree
10:27	<aliguori>	tip is already broken
10:27	<aliguori>	badly
10:28	<aliguori>	well, at least, according to xm-test
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10:28	<hollisb>	I saw the notes about xm-test failures
10:28	<hollisb>	I guess they don't actually run xm-test to promote things out of the staging tree?
10:28	<aliguori>	they only do short runs on the staging tree
10:28	<aliguori>	so they miss a bunch of the tests
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10:39	<harry_>	aliguori: I think I misinterpreted your second answer. Do you mean that PAE guests on 32 bit PAE xen should work but non-PAE guests on PAE xen will not?
10:39	<aliguori>	harry_, yes
10:40	<aliguori>	you cannot mix and match pae and non-pae anything
10:40	<aliguori>	b/c of the p2m mapping
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10:40	<aliguori>	the guest and the hypervisor have to have the same address size
10:41	<aliguori>	the same applies for 32 bit PV guests on a 64 bit hypervisor.. can't do it
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10:43	<harry_>	aliguori: OK you are saying that pages outside the 4GB region can't have a representation in the guest's mapping table unless the guest can also understand stuff > 4GB.
10:44	<harry_>	aliguori: So I'm looking at do_mmu_update and there are a number of comments: /* FIXME: doesn't work with PAE */
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10:45	<harry_>	aliguori: and I'm wondering if PAE guest support is simply broken at the moment.
10:45	<aliguori>	harry_, it shouldn't be. we do daily regressions on it and it's failing no more than anything else
10:46	<harry_>	aliguori: OK thanks that's exactly the info I was looking for.
10:46	<aliguori>	harry_, to your previous question, yeah, it's possible that a guest gets pages that are all > 4GB so it has to use PAE page-tables even if it has < 4GB total memory..
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11:03	<hollisb>	does anybody know how to enable the ACM stuff? do you have to "make ACM_SECURITY=y"?
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11:15	<tessier>	I have been hearing a lot about UDP checksum corruption issues causing Xen to be unsuitable for use in clusters (which do things like heartbeat over UDP etc). Anyone know if that is still an issue?
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11:53	<hensema>	hmmmm, those xm-test graphs are pretty useless
11:53	<hensema>	since it's impossible to read them ;-)
11:54	[~]	hensema guesses they need a white background in order to be usable
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12:04	<johnlev>	hollisb: there?
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12:06	<hollisb>	johnlev: yes
12:07	<johnlev>	hollisb: wrt the config thing. my tree has some changes to split up into Config.SunOS and Config.Linux (or something like that)
12:07	<hollisb>	ah, what had to change?
12:07	<johnlev>	I think I introduced configs/ and put all the meat there
12:07	<hollisb>	cool, want to reply to that thread? :)
12:07	<johnlev>	so we should probably do something similar for the arch-specific config files
12:08	<johnlev>	or I could switch to whatever you're planning, it's all good...
12:08	<hollisb>	well, Keir is a little skeptical that such a thing is necessary
12:08	<johnlev>	I made a configs/common.mk with everything we can share.
12:09	<johnlev>	hollisb: not sure about the Rules.mk stuff for xen/, but at least we need /something/ for Solaris vs Linux /anyway/
12:09	<johnlev>	(along with a whole host of things like tools/ c files #include <linux/xen/...> ... sigh)
12:11	<hollisb>	I bet
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14:32	<mejlholm>	anyone in here who is confortable with the map_pages_to_xen (arch/x86/mm.c) function?
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15:11	<Snake007uk>	hey guyz
15:11	<Snake007uk>	i am having a problem
15:11	<Snake007uk>	with networking under xen
15:12	<Snake007uk>	i thought it was a simple matter of configuring the interface in the guest os and xen automatically bridges it to the host os
15:12	<Snake007uk>	but for some reason
15:12	<Snake007uk>	that is not happening
15:13	<tonfa>	do you having the right things compiled in ?
15:13	<tonfa>	bridges
15:16	<Snake007uk>	i didnt compile
15:16	<Snake007uk>	i used the xen script to install
15:16	<Snake007uk>	on
15:16	<Snake007uk>	rhel
15:18	<tonfa>	ok, sorry i cannot help more
15:19	<tonfa>	maybe google :)
15:19	<Snake007uk>	yeah i have been trying
15:21	<buggs>	see if you have hotplug/udev up to date
15:24	<Snake007uk>	its really wierd
15:24	<Snake007uk>	the guest os is centos
15:24	<Snake007uk>	it doesnt have eth0 now ?
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17:06	<tessier>	I have been hearing a lot about UDP checksum corruption issues causing Xen to be unsuitable for use in clusters (which do things like heartbeat over UDP etc). Anyone know if that is still an issue?
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22:13	[~]	aliguori wonders if ian will ever respond about vmi...
22:18	<surriel>	hehe
22:28	<tonfa>	any idea what will be the future of xenshare ?
22:28	<tonfa>	there was no reply from cambridge people in the ml i think
22:30	<aliguori>	xenshare?
22:32	<tonfa>	the thing from rusty
22:32	<aliguori>	oh
22:32	<aliguori>	he's still working on it
22:33	<tonfa>	will it get merged ?
22:33	<tonfa>	maybe this kind of thing was discussed in some xen-summit
22:34	<aliguori>	rusty wasn't at the last summit
22:34	<aliguori>	that's up to the cambridge guys..
22:35	<tonfa>	ok
22:35	<aliguori>	it's hard to predict what they like/dislike :-)
22:35	<tonfa>	same for vmi ?
22:35	<aliguori>	heh, that's a whole other can of worms :-)
22:35	<aliguori>	it seems like it's gotten an okay response on lkml.. we'll see what the xen vmi rom looks like
22:36	<tonfa>	will the vmware people port xen to vmi ? :)
22:36	<aliguori>	they worked with some of the l4 guys too
22:36	<aliguori>	it's apparently going to be released in a few days
22:37	<tonfa>	yes i saw the website, i wasn't aware of the pre-virtualization thing
22:44	<aliguori>	yeah, pre-virtualization is a really cool idea
22:47	<tonfa>	is it really automatique ?
22:47	<tonfa>	ok, i should just read the paper :)
22:48	<tonfa>	automatic (damn french)
22:50	<aliguori>	heh
22:50	<aliguori>	yeah, it is automatic
22:50	<aliguori>	mostly
22:51	<aliguori>	practically, you still have to make a few modifications for things like pte updates and dma
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22:51	<tonfa>	do you need the source code or could it be applied to a binary ?
22:52	<aliguori>	nope
22:52	<aliguori>	you need source
22:52	<tonfa>	ok
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