TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#xen:2006:03:06

---	Log	opened Mon Mar 06 00:00:50 2006
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00:42	<teferi>	excellent, my private network thing works
00:50	<xbmodder_lappy2>	cool
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05:10	<BugOne>	hi
05:10	<BugOne>	anyone could help me with xen lan?
05:16	<sdog>	bugone: lesson 1 in irc support.. ask your question , don't ask if you can ask your question ..
05:18	<BugOne>	how the network nat works with xen?
05:19	<BugOne>	i mean... anyone knows how the vifX talk with real ethX?
05:19	<BugOne>	using nat, not bridging
05:19	<hensema>	it's al documented in the xen wiki
05:20	<BugOne>	no it isnt :)
05:20	<BugOne>	it talks about routing and bridging
05:20	<BugOne>	not natting
05:20	<hensema>	nat and xen is scary
05:20	<hensema>	very scary ;-)
05:20	<BugOne>	why?
05:20	<hensema>	because nobody seems to understand how and if it works ;-)
05:21	<BugOne>	heuaheua
05:21	<BugOne>	i have to...
05:21	<BugOne>	make a quite complex network with xen
05:22	<BugOne>	but i'm not so expert on network setup...
05:22	<BugOne>	could someone give an opinion about this www.bugone.com/rete1.jpg
05:22	<BugOne>	ok take the picture as it is :P
05:23	<BugOne>	i thought the better solution was natting... but suggestions are accepted :)
05:23	<BugOne>	(sorry for my english :P)
05:26	<BugOne>	...
05:33	<BugOne>	nothing done?
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06:27	<perlmonkee>	I have a very silly simple question (I imagine) - what kind of routing rule do I need in order for domain-0 to be able to connect via TCP/IP to guests? (The guests are on a different subnet)
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09:15	<XSting>	is there anybody here who knows about little about AMD SVM implementation?
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09:24	<DV>	aliguori: ping
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09:32	<pvanhoof>	trying to collect references to downloadable video's (of talks and conferences): http://pvanhoof.be/wiki/index.php/Conferences_and_talks (feel free to add)
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09:33	<aliguori>	DV: howdy
09:33	<DV>	hi :-)
09:34	<DV>	what about pushing the XML-RPC patch on libvirt CVS ?
09:34	<DV>	so that code cleanup can be done
09:34	<DV>	or at least started
09:34	<aliguori>	DV: i was waiting for the patches to be commited
09:34	<DV>	aliguori: do we need this ?
09:34	<aliguori>	i can do it tomorrow if you'd like though
09:35	<DV>	I mean it should still work even if xend doesn't have XML-RPC
09:35	<DV>	yeah, do it when you have time :-)
09:35	<DV>	unless you think the xml-rpc decision may be revisited
09:36	<aliguori>	I was waiting for feedback from cambridge in case they want things to change
09:36	<aliguori>	no, xml-rpc is going to go in :-) i'm confident of that
09:36	<tab_>	aliguori: yes
09:36	<DV>	okay so commit when you have time :-)
09:37	<aliguori>	tab_, yes to what? that xml-rpc will go in?
09:37	<tab_>	aliguori: yes
09:37	<tab_>	however we are still not clear on the plan
09:37	<aliguori>	tab_, ah, yeah, do you know what's going on btw? last i heard christian was looking at the patches...
09:38	<tab_>	with more prodding I think that could goes in
09:38	<tab_>	s/goes/go/
09:38	<tab_>	I'm not totally sure
09:38	<tab_>	I've heard some stuff about it but nothing terribly clear yet
09:39	<tab_>	I wish I can say more, but all I know is that we want xml-rpc to go in
09:39	<aliguori>	:-)
09:40	<aliguori>	well at least that's a good thing
09:40	<DV>	I think the point is more about deprecating some existing code ;-)
09:40	<DV>	thanks really adding something
09:40	<DV>	s/thanks/than/
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09:43	<tab_>	DV: deprecating S-expr ?
09:43	<DV>	tab_: rather the custom HTTP server code for it
09:44	<tab_>	ok
09:44	<DV>	tab_: S-Expr are still used as I understand
09:44	<tab_>	unfortunately yes
09:45	[~]	DV proves he didn't read aliguori's patches yet :-\
09:45	<aliguori>	DV: we cannot just remove the s-expression/http stuff.. there are quite a few people who have written clients to it
09:45	<aliguori>	DV: we have to deprecate it first...
09:45	<DV>	aliguori: sure
09:46	<aliguori>	or at least get everyone to start using libvirt :-)
09:47	<DV>	aliguori: which I guess will force to cleanup the code a bit first
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09:49	<hikenboot>	anyone in here done there own xen kernel compile on ubuntu...I want to copy my config from my exisiting kernel to xen I have a procedure but i believe it to be imperfect..can anyone help with this?
09:49	<hikenboot>	my existing kernel is 2.6.12-10-386
09:51	<hikenboot>	I copied config-2.6.12-10-386 from /boot to ~/xen/xen-unstable.hg/linux-2.6.16-rc5-xen0/.config
09:51	<hikenboot>	then i did a sudo make oldconfig CC=gcc-3.3 HOSTCC=gcc-3.3
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09:54	<hikenboot>	since i want to make changes i then i have to do a "sudo make menuconfig CC=gcc-3.3 HOSTCC=gcc-3.3 " in the ~/xen/xen-unstable.hg/linux-2.6.16-rc5-xen0 directory
09:54	<hikenboot>	am i right so far?
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09:55	<hikenboot>	this will cause it to ask a lot of questions..which i dont have the answer to ..and it will error out
09:55	<hikenboot>	I was thinking maybe i need somewhere an ARCH=xen...but not sure where or if i should...anyone?
09:57	<hikenboot>	I really think the xen people should have created in the readme this senario as a possible setup since It seems like it would be acommon custom configuration
09:58	<hikenboot>	anyways i will include it in a wiki if I can figure it out with someones help
10:22	<aliguori>	hikenboot, you need to always specify ARCH=xen
10:22	<aliguori>	in the make oldconfig and make menuconfig
10:26	<Diziet>	Hi. I'm sure this is a perennial by now but I have TCP checksum errors and ethtool -K tx off didn't fix it (as expected, since the checksums are wrong on the packets going from dom0 to domU, according to tcpdump).
10:27	<Diziet>	That is, I tried ethtool -K tx off in domU. dom0 says EOPNOTSUPP for everything.
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11:04	<apto22>	hi all. Anyone has time to answer a question on Xen 3.0 and SuSE 10.1b6? I can't get the network up. Is the bridge supposed to get an IP anytime during dom0 setup?
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12:08	[~]	Diziet gives up and posts to xen-users. It does seem like many other people suffer from checksum problems and the documentation is rather unhelpful.
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14:09	<BugOne>	hi... anyone knows how to break out a command like ping from domU?
14:10	<BugOne>	ctrl c doesnt work
14:14	<perlmonkee>	how are you connecting to the domu?
14:17	<BugOne>	ssh
14:17	<perlmonkee>	because if you connect to it via `xm console ?`, ^c will work fine - if you connect to it via ssh, it would obviously work fine.
14:17	<BugOne>	?
14:17	<perlmonkee>	there is something very wrong with what you're describing then.
14:18	<perlmonkee>	that likely has nothing to do with Xen.
14:18	<perlmonkee>	if you're connecting via ssh - then its just like ssh'ing to any other host.
14:18	<BugOne>	when you replace 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1
14:18	<BugOne>	with 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 console
14:18	<BugOne>	on /etc/inittab
14:18	<BugOne>	ctrl c never work.
14:19	<perlmonkee>	...
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14:23	<BugOne>	anyone knows?
14:23	<hollisb>	BugOne: which inittab did you edit like that?
14:23	<BugOne>	domU
14:23	<hollisb>	why?
14:24	<BugOne>	any tutorial say that... also xen guide :)
14:24	<BugOne>	because else you cant see domU console...
14:24	<hollisb>	url please?
14:40	<BugOne>	boh i didnt find now but if i dont do that, i dont see domU's console
14:43	<hollisb>	sounds like you should address that issue
14:44	<riel>	funny, domU consoles seem to work just fine here without that change
14:44	<BugOne>	here not :)
14:45	<perlmonkee>	BuyOne: What is your native language?
14:45	<cfreak>	8
14:46	<perlmonkee>	and what do you mean by "see domU's console"? see it where?
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14:47	<BugOne>	hehe
14:47	<BugOne>	italian :P
14:47	<BugOne>	uhm.. i mean
14:47	<BugOne>	you start a domU
14:47	<BugOne>	and you dont see what happens...
14:47	<BugOne>	neither with xm console X
14:47	<BugOne>	you cant login
14:48	<BugOne>	if i change that row on inittab
14:48	<perlmonkee>	Where do you see the console if you make that absurd change to your inittab?
14:48	<BugOne>	it works fine
14:48	<BugOne>	but... disable ctrl c
14:48	<BugOne>	uhm... on the console where i am in
14:49	<BugOne>	i think is a problem of debian user with version 3.0.0 of xen
14:49	<perlmonkee>	How are you creating the domain?
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14:49	<perlmonkee>	xm create -c <configfile> ?
14:51	<BugOne>	yes... it's the same with vmid or with -c
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16:07	<DV>	Dave`: don't worry, hopefully Anthony will commit tomorrow and we will be able to start revamping libvirt code
16:07	<DV>	Dave`: just stalled temporary, but process will resume shortly :-)
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16:18	<Dave`>	DV: no problem, I've been sidetracked with some embedded programming recently
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16:22	<DV>	Dave`: okay :-) don't worry I'm a bit sidetracked too :-)
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20:07	<movement>	gah, wtf is xend up to
20:08	<movement>	let a domain dump core and xm list starts hanging. nice.
20:09	<aliguori>	movement, is xend using any cpu?
20:11	<aliguori>	movement, i bet the refresh_shutdown_lock is not getting released
20:11	<movement>	it recovers eventually
20:12	<aliguori>	yeah, probably the next time refreshShutdown is invoked
20:13	<aliguori>	XendDomainInfo.py:refreshShutdown is where I'd start looking...
20:16	[~]	movement puts it somewhere on his TODO...
20:17	<michal`>	is there any web control / monitoring panel for xen out there ?
20:20	<movement>	there's a free one, I forget its name
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20:20	<aliguori>	xensv
20:20	<aliguori>	but it's probably suffering bitrot
20:21	<movement>	and argo, but I didn't mean that either.
20:21	[~]	aliguori googles argo
20:21	<michal`>	http://enomalism.com/
20:22	<movement>	that's it
20:22	<aliguori>	oh, yeah, i've seen argo before...
20:22	<aliguori>	is enomalism free?
20:22	<michal`>	The Enomalism Virtualized Management Console (VMC) is a open source web-based systems administrator management tool for XEN hypervisor.
20:22	<michal`>	from their site
20:23	<aliguori>	yeah, but they don't have any code :-)
20:23	<movement>	free as in free of code
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20:24	<aliguori>	and argo reminds me a lot of gxenophilia
20:26	<michal`>	uhm ? if they are not publishing code, it cannot be called open source
20:27	<movement>	well indeed
20:28	<movement>	but then again it took us quite a while (sigh)
20:29	<aliguori>	movement, seriously man :-)
20:29	<michal`>	when it will be released ?
20:29	<aliguori>	at least you did though. i guess i don't have an excuse anymore for not trying out opensolaris :-)
20:29	<aliguori>	michal`, who knows.
20:30	<movement>	aliguori: apart from it needing at least two boxes because 3.x xvbd still isn't integrated
20:32	<movement>	and you need to build it anyway
20:33	<aliguori>	doh :-)
20:33	<movement>	is gdbserver supposed to build/work in 3.0.1?
20:34	<aliguori>	AFAIK
20:46	<movement>	it doesn't even /build/ gdbserver-xen
20:55	<movement>	there's no mkbuildtree in 3.0.1 tarball, I assume that's why
21:06	<movement>	and immediately segfaults. oh well.
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22:00	<hikenboot>	got disconnected here is my pastbin of my question
22:00	<hikenboot>	http://pastebin.ca/44742
22:09	<hikenboot>	updates to the procedure -----> http://pastebin.ca/44743 <-----is this complete?
22:43	<hollisb>	/quir
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