| --- | Log | opened Fri Mar 03 00:00:14 2006 |
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| 01:01 | <chrish01> | has anyone used xend with bonding for high availability? |
| 01:02 | <chrish01> | ie: bond0 with{ eth0, eth1 } enslaved |
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| 01:49 | <FloFri> | hello everyone |
| 01:50 | <FloFri> | does today someone know, if there is a kernel patch, which combines xen and rsbac or at least a xen patch for 2.6.13 or 2.6.14? |
| 02:05 | <michal`> | FloFri: there is not such a patch yet and there will be :) |
| 02:05 | [~] | michal` is working on it |
| 02:06 | <michal`> | first i have to get xen working alone |
| 02:06 | <michal`> | than i'll patch rsbac on top of it, test, test, test some more ;) |
| 02:07 | <michal`> | and finally send info to the rsbac & xen mailing list so everybody knows |
| 02:07 | <chrish01> | whats rsbac? |
| 02:08 | <chrish01> | nm, google always answers |
| 02:08 | <michal`> | www.rsbac.org or /wii me ;) |
| 02:10 | <chrish01> | has anyone used infiniband with xen? that stuff looks insanely cool. |
| 02:11 | [~] | michal` not, but looks cool indeed |
| 02:14 | <chrish01> | whoa, this rsbac stuff looks cool |
| 02:14 | <chrish01> | i especially like the live virus scan setup |
| 02:17 | <michal`> | and it is cool :) |
| 02:19 | <FloFri> | oh, btw. there still seems to be a patch to combine rsbac and xen, but only in a precompiled mandriva-kernel: http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mandriva/2006.0/i586/media/main/kernel-xen0-2.6.12.12mdk-2.6.12-12mdk.i586.html |
| 02:20 | <michal`> | interesting... |
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| 02:40 | <FloFri> | just for information: is there some progress on a xen + rsbac patch or will this need some time? because i want to update my kernel in the near future :) |
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| 02:41 | <michal`> | it needs a bit of time, i would expect it to take about a week |
| 02:41 | <michal`> | because i am xen newbie ;p |
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| 02:57 | <FloFri> | a week is no problem :) I will stay tuned, I hope, you have success :) |
| 02:58 | <michal`> | i have just booted my first xen domU so yes, i will :] |
| 02:58 | <michal`> | will keep everybody notified |
| 03:03 | <FloFri> | cool |
| 03:21 | <michal`> | anybody here have xen 3 guest netbsd kernel (instalation one) ? |
| 03:22 | <michal`> | and freebsd too ;p |
| 03:22 | <michal`> | and... nothing more, only 512 MB of memory here |
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| 04:00 | <Dave`> | michal`: heh. I have 5 VMs running in 400M ram :P |
| 04:01 | <Dave`> | but most of those are low-load dedicated servers, so they're running off 32M ram |
| 04:20 | <michal`> | heh, that might work ;) |
| 04:20 | <michal`> | btw |
| 04:21 | <michal`> | dom0 can see memory assign changes immidiately |
| 04:21 | <michal`> | but domU cannot |
| 04:21 | <michal`> | (up to a reboot) |
| 04:21 | <michal`> | could it be working more "online" |
| 04:21 | <michal`> | ? |
| 04:27 | <Dave`> | what do you mean? |
| 04:27 | <Dave`> | oh, right, I see |
| 04:28 | <Dave`> | well, I don't know. That would be something the xen memory driver would have to implement |
| 04:28 | <Dave`> | I don't know anything about that |
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| 05:36 | [~] | muli_ smacks xen for not having a full ioremap implementation |
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| 08:06 | <muli_> | hi rami |
| 08:16 | <Rami> | HI! |
| 08:26 | <Rami> | muli: congratulations for accepting your proposals for usenix and for OLS (I saw it in your blog) |
| 08:29 | <muli_> | thanks |
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| 08:58 | <Rami> | muli: (and all others who are interested in SVM) : I was this week at an AMD open confernce in tel aviv (Israel) |
| 08:58 | <Rami> | They said that the processors with virtualization extensions |
| 08:58 | <Rami> | will be out only in June 2006 |
| 08:59 | <Rami> | And as I understood, the AMD processors with IOMMU virtualization support |
| 08:59 | <Rami> | will be out only in 2007 |
| 09:04 | <muli_> | did they talk about their upcoming IOMMU? |
| 09:06 | <Rami> | muli: the lecturer from AMD was Giuseppe Amato |
| 09:06 | <Rami> | muli: he talled very little about virtualization |
| 09:07 | <Rami> | muli: he really skipped throught the slides (on this subject) |
| 09:07 | <Rami> | muli: and my impression was that he does not know much about this subject |
| 09:08 | <Rami> | muli: so in fact, the only real thing he said about IOMMU was that it will be out in 2007 |
| 09:08 | <muli_> | oh well, we already knew that :-) |
| 09:09 | <Rami> | muli: I did not know it; and in fact , I hoped that the new processor will be out in Q1 and not June 2006 |
| 09:10 | <Rami> | muli: But I must say in praise of Giuseppe Amato that on other technical issues concerning AMD processors he was good |
| 09:11 | <Rami> | muli : and the PDF of the AMAMTO AMD presentation (English , of course) is in http://www.pc.co.il/Index.asp?CategoryID=82&ArticleID=217 |
| 09:11 | <Rami> | muli: or directly to pdf presetation: http://www.pc.co.il/_Uploads/217AMD64_CompilersTechData.pdf |
| 09:11 | <Rami> | NO |
| 09:12 | <Rami> | this is the compilers ... |
| 09:15 | <Rami> | muli: this is the direct link (something is not correct in the labels for the links) http://www.pc.co.il/_Uploads/217Presentation.pdf |
| 09:20 | <muli_> | thanks |
| 09:20 | <Rami> | muli: no |
| 09:21 | <Rami> | muli: I meant : np |
| 09:21 | <Rami> | :-) |
| 09:28 | <Dave`> | aliguori: here? |
| 09:30 | <aliguori> | Dave`, yup |
| 09:30 | <aliguori> | not for long though |
| 09:31 | <Dave`> | just wondering if you had some thoughts on my followups about libvirt |
| 09:31 | <Dave`> | and wondering if there's a dedicated channel somewhere where I can catch Daniel |
| 09:32 | <aliguori> | he's in here (DV) but as he mentioned, he's at a conference righ tnow |
| 09:32 | <Dave`> | okay |
| 09:32 | <aliguori> | those were long emails, let me actually read them :-) |
| 09:32 | <Dave`> | so the dedicated channel is #xen ? :) |
| 09:33 | <Dave`> | yeah, I know. I've got some fairly specific needs for virtlib, and so I'm bombarding you with a lot of stuff I'd like to do with the code :) |
| 09:37 | <aliguori> | doh!, stupid autocomplete picked up some random ibmer O:-) |
| 09:37 | <aliguori> | i dunno who daniel cruz is.. i meant to pick up daniel velllards email |
| 09:38 | <Dave`> | ha |
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| 09:38 | <murb> | aliguori: what happens when you have two people with the same name? |
| 09:38 | <Dave`> | the universe segfaults |
| 09:39 | <Yoda-xen> | hi ppl, can I ask something ? |
| 09:39 | [~] | Dave` is tempted to reply "NO. GO AWAY." :) |
| 09:39 | <Dave`> | Yoda-xen: please, go ahead |
| 09:39 | <Yoda-xen> | I've tried intalling Xen on Gentoo |
| 09:39 | <aliguori> | muli, i think I just was a little too quick to let autocomplete choose something... |
| 09:40 | <Yoda-xen> | but the kernel reboots (seems to be the kernel and not the hypervisor) |
| 09:40 | <Yoda-xen> | somewhere after detecting my mice |
| 09:40 | <tab> | aliguori: you did it again |
| 09:40 | <tab> | aliguori: (was murb not muli) |
| 09:40 | <aliguori> | Dave`, btw, I think the vtable stuff is a sane thing to do.. i responded to your note |
| 09:40 | [~] | aliguori smacks his head |
| 09:40 | <Yoda-xen> | I wonder if there are known kernel parts that could cause this behavior |
| 09:40 | <aliguori> | tab: it's too earlier in the morning for me to be functioning :-) |
| 09:41 | <Dave`> | aliguori: ok, cool. I was asking because actually, if I submit a patch for that refactor + code reformatting first, the feature patches will be easier to write afterwards :) |
| 09:43 | <aliguori> | i have a bad feeling though that this will require some vodoo |
| 09:43 | <aliguori> | for xen, it's easy to make the abstraction but once we support different hypervisors |
| 09:43 | <aliguori> | there are some fundamental differences that are going to be painful to try to find a common interface for |
| 09:44 | <Dave`> | yeah. I'm not really sure that libvirt can live up to being the perfect all-around abstraction it aims to be :/ |
| 09:45 | <aliguori> | it doesn't have to be perfect.. just good enough :-) |
| 09:45 | <Yoda-xen> | any idea how to make the kernel freeze and not reboot to pinpoint the pb? |
| 09:45 | <Dave`> | one solution is to define an interface in terms of the basic blocks of Xen, and then make some functions return ENOTIMPLEMENTED for other virtualizers |
| 09:45 | <Dave`> | or EUSEXEN :) |
| 09:46 | <aliguori> | :) |
| 10:00 | [~] | Yoda-xen slaps himself with a big hypervisor and add PCI support into his kernel |
| 10:09 | <Yoda-xen> | yes ! it's booting |
| 10:11 | <Dave`> | heh |
| 10:11 | <Dave`> | I wondered for hours why my first dom0 didn't boot |
| 10:11 | <Dave`> | ... obviously adding pci and ata support helped it find its / :P |
| 10:13 | <Dave`> | aliguori: ah, and I had another potential troll... How about switching from cvs to subversion for the repository? :P |
| 10:13 | <Dave`> | that way I could use svk and have offline commits for my hacking :P |
| 10:16 | <aliguori> | Dave`, oh you have to take that up with DV :-) |
| 10:16 | <aliguori> | he's the one who setup all of the hosting |
| 10:16 | [~] | aliguori would prefer mercurial... |
| 10:21 | <Dave`> | heh |
| 10:21 | <Dave`> | I'm an svn dev, so I'm biased :P |
| 10:22 | <Dave`> | the advantage of svn being that you can use either svn or svk (semi-distributed) on the client side |
| 10:23 | <tab> | Dave`: what's the advantage ? |
| 10:24 | <Dave`> | if you're used to distributed scm, svk has an UI you recognize. If you're used to centralized scm, svn has an UI you recognize. The caveat is that in the end, everything is (mostly) still tied to one central repository |
| 10:25 | <Dave`> | depending on the point of view, that can be good or bad (depending on whether you consider the distributed model beneficial or harmful to the development process) |
| 10:27 | <Dave`> | aliguori: although if you prefer mercurial, I'm not against it. I was proposing svn as the logical step up from cvs, a least-change solution :) |
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| 10:28 | <aliguori> | i currently use tailor to slurp the libvirt cvs tree into a local hg tree. i then work off of the hg trees like i normally would |
| 10:28 | <aliguori> | so it's not a huge deal for me ATM |
| 10:29 | [~] | aliguori heads off to class |
| 10:29 | <Dave`> | aliguori: does tailor let you work back the other way round, back to cvs? |
| 10:30 | <Dave`> | Last time I checked, it only let you read from cvs, not write back... But that was long ago :) |
| 10:30 | <Dave`> | okay, never mind. I wend to read the tailor web site :) |
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| 10:35 | <Yoda-xen> | what can produce error saying : "2, 'No such file or directory'" |
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| 11:00 | <tab> | Dave`: the central model is very bad |
| 11:00 | <Dave`> | that is your opinion :-) |
| 11:01 | <Dave`> | there are also people who say that, socially speaking, the distributed model does more damage to software development than good. |
| 11:01 | <Dave`> | But I don't really feel like starting a holy war about this right now, google is full of the arguments of both sides |
| 11:02 | <Dave`> | I'll just use whatever a project has decided to use (except for cvs :P |
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| 11:23 | <michal`> | i'm looking for some description of creating freebsd guest disk images, anybody here know some ? |
| 11:23 | <michal`> | got freebsd (test version) 7 kernel, got freebsd 6 userspace |
| 11:24 | <michal`> | and am going to put it into a working system :] |
| 11:24 | <michal`> | kernel 7 because it is the only version working under xen 3 afaik |
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| 12:18 | <jevere> | hi guys |
| 12:18 | <DV> | aliguori: DV is back, what's up ? |
| 12:18 | <jevere> | at the /tools/examples directory |
| 12:19 | <jevere> | what's for xmexample.vti file? |
| 12:20 | <DV> | Dave: does that make a real difference ? |
| 12:20 | <DV> | Dave:I mean subversion ... |
| 12:20 | [~] | DV spent a bit of time setting up the CVs server |
| 12:23 | <Dave`> | DV: well, feature-wise it is the next step up from CVS (with stuff like atomic commits, cheap and manageable branching, and basically the stuff that CVS didn't quite get right :) |
| 12:24 | <Dave`> | the svn client retains about 95% of the cvs commandset (svn checkout, update, commit ...), and adds a few handy things. |
| 12:24 | <hollisb> | DV: I mentioned to you before how shocked I was that you're still using CVS :) |
| 12:24 | <Dave`> | DV: it's no big deal, but as I'm also a Subversion dev, it is kinda my duty to help people move away from cvs ;) |
| 12:24 | <hollisb> | ah ha, full disclosure :) |
| 12:26 | <Dave`> | DV: also, I see the libvir.org webserver is running apache 2.x . You could set up mod_dav_svn for http:// access fairly quickly. |
| 12:26 | <Dave`> | and I can provide the dump of the libvirt repository converted to svn, as well as help to get it all set up |
| 12:27 | <Dave`> | but like I said, "no pressure" :-) |
| 12:30 | <michal`> | hm |
| 12:30 | <michal`> | another question for ya ;) |
| 12:30 | <michal`> | in xen machine with two network cards i have everything nicely configured and working... |
| 12:30 | <michal`> | now would like to bridge hosts from network behind that second physical interface to xen |
| 12:31 | <michal`> | to xen hosts, etc |
| 12:31 | <michal`> | i gues there has to be something more than just adding eth1 interface to xenbr0 |
| 12:31 | <DV> | Dave: okay then no pressure right now please, I just drove back home for 5 hours |
| 12:31 | <DV> | :-) |
| 12:32 | <DV> | Dave: I also need to reply to your last mail, tomorrow, I'm a bit fried brain wise right now :-) |
| 12:39 | <michal`> | so, how can i physical add interface to half-xenized network ? |
| 12:41 | <Dave`> | DV: no problem, welcome back :-) |
| 12:43 | <DV> | Dave: and for libxml2 let's say I wrote 90% of it, including the rfc2396 uri parsing module |
| 12:43 | [~] | DV need to update it to 3896 but that's another story ;-:-) |
| 12:46 | <Dave`> | DV: yah, I realized the size of your involvement just after sending the mail :) |
| 12:47 | <michal`> | wow ! |
| 12:47 | [~] | michal` got soemthing very interesting |
| 12:48 | <michal`> | ip link set up dev eth1 gave me... |
| 12:48 | <michal`> | SIOCSIFFLAGS: acnnot allocate memory |
| 12:48 | <michal`> | ip: page allocation failure ... lots of debug info in dmesg |
| 12:48 | <DV> | Dave: anyway a lot of what you're suggesting is sound, refactoring is clearly needed |
| 12:49 | <michal`> | just have reset its mac addr and tunrned off arp |
| 12:49 | <michal`> | and enslaved to xen bridge |
| 12:49 | <DV> | Dave: I just wanted to implement basic functionnalities first to get users (like you ;-) |
| 12:51 | <michal`> | so, what can i do about it ? |
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| 12:58 | <Dave`> | DV: heh :-) Well, you've got me, at least for a couple of weeks. |
| 12:58 | <Dave`> | Except for right now, dinner is ready :P |
| 12:58 | <Dave`> | bbl |
| 12:59 | <aliguori> | DV: wb |
| 13:01 | <michal`> | aliguori: are you mayby interested in bug i have just found out ? |
| 13:01 | <michal`> | after reseting mac addr on physical interface, turning off arp |
| 13:01 | <michal`> | enslaving physical interface to xen bridge also |
| 13:01 | <michal`> | ip link set up returns cannot allocate memory |
| 13:03 | <aliguori> | michal`, can't say i know much about that sort of stuff.. if you file a bug, i'm sure there's a couple of people who will jump on it though :-) |
| 13:04 | <aliguori> | hollisb, what are they using macros for types anyway? |
| 13:04 | <michal`> | great news, so now i wil lhave to reboot to the working kernel, transfer data, reboot to xen, use them, reboot to working kernel, transfer tham back, reboot back to xen. |
| 13:05 | [~] | michal` proceeds ;p |
| 13:07 | <hollisb> | aliguori: I don't fully buy into it, myself |
| 13:07 | <hollisb> | aliguori: keir wants to preserve type-checking when copying data to/from guests |
| 13:07 | <hollisb> | so not just copy_from_user(void *foo, ...) |
| 13:08 | <hollisb> | so he's worked up some structure-based scheme, not unlike one I proposed a year ago, but applied differently |
| 13:08 | <hollisb> | the structure just makes sure you can't accidentally dereference it as a plain type |
| 13:10 | <DV> | aliguori: thanks /me is tired |
| 13:12 | <aliguori> | hollisb, I see |
| 13:12 | <aliguori> | hollisb, doesn't sparse have a __user keyword that's used for that purpose? |
| 13:13 | <aliguori> | that seems like a considerably more elegant solution |
| 13:14 | <hollisb> | aliguori: when I say "type checking", I mean e.g. "int foo = struct bar" |
| 13:14 | <hollisb> | not direct dereferences of user-supplied addresses. that's what __user is for |
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| 13:18 | <aliguori> | hollisb, okay, i'll have to look at the code... |
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| 14:09 | <Roey> | hi |
| 14:09 | <Roey> | http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8909 nice article |
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| 14:23 | <ivan> | anyone know where i could get a list of asm instructions which only run in ring 0? |
| 14:25 | <hollisb> | http://cisr.nps.navy.mil/downloads/00paper_vmm.pdf |
| 14:25 | <ivan> | cool |
| 14:30 | <murb> | licensewanger: 0 |
| 14:30 | <murb> | xen: 1 |
| 14:30 | <murb> | i will now give xen domains static macs before installing such software.. |
| 14:30 | <hollisb> | "licensewanger" ?? |
| 14:31 | <murb> | hollisb: manager |
| 14:31 | <murb> | hollisb: decided that the mac address would be nice and static |
| 14:31 | <hollisb> | sure |
| 14:31 | <murb> | so i had to go through logs trying to findout what mac the vm had when i installed the software. |
| 14:31 | <hollisb> | heh |
| 14:31 | <murb> | turns out they used a hacked local hostid program where mac == hostid... |
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| 14:54 | <xbmodder_lappy> | hiya guys |
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| 14:55 | <Dave`> | heya xbmodder_lappy2 |
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| 15:18 | <teferi> | hey, I have a question about Xen networking. I want to set up a network internal to the machine between the domU and the various dom0s that's not accessible by outside machines. |
| 15:18 | <teferi> | The way to do this seems to be vnets, but I can't get hte vnet kernel module to work. |
| 15:18 | <teferi> | So I figure I can add a second vif to the domUs and bridge that, but then how do I hook up the domU to that? |
| 15:18 | <xbmodder_lappy2> | teferi, umm. I found the best method to be suicide. |
| 15:19 | <teferi> | xbmodder_lappy2: you're not being very helpfu |
| 15:19 | <teferi> | l |
| 15:19 | <xbmodder_lappy2> | I know. |
| 15:19 | <xbmodder_lappy2> | umm |
| 15:20 | <xbmodder_lappy2> | do you have an unused interface? |
| 15:20 | <teferi> | I thought I could do something with one of the other vif0 interfaces |
| 15:20 | <teferi> | but I'm not entirely sure how those are connected up |
| 15:21 | <xbmodder_lappy2> | domU: fake eth0 -> vifN.0 -+ |
| 15:21 | <xbmodder_lappy2> | | |
| 15:21 | <xbmodder_lappy2> | bridge |
| 15:21 | <xbmodder_lappy2> | | |
| 15:21 | <xbmodder_lappy2> | domU: fake eth0 -> vifN.0 -+ |
| 15:21 | <teferi> | that's the idea |
| 15:22 | <teferi> | except it'll be eth1 and vifN.1 |
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| 15:25 | <teferi> | Ah...I think I see. I hook up vif0.1 to the bridge and give veth1 an IP. |
| 15:25 | <xbmodder_lappy2> | yeah |
| 15:25 | <teferi> | Awesome. |
| 15:26 | <xbmodder_lappy2> | I knoaw |
| 15:34 | <teferi> | xenbr1 8000.feffffffffff no vif0.1 vif25.1 |
| 15:34 | <teferi> | but I can't ping the one from the other |
| 15:36 | <teferi> | oh dear, forgot to give it a mac address. |
| 15:39 | <teferi> | no, that didn't do it |
| 15:39 | <teferi> | ...oh. |
| 15:44 | <teferi> | got it! |
| 15:48 | <teferi> | this is awesome |
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| 16:46 | <michal`> | ok... |
| 16:47 | <michal`> | anybody here with netbsd under xen 3 ? |
| 16:47 | <michal`> | or freebsd full instalation with xen 3 ? (yes i know, only in development tree) |
| 16:48 | <Dave`> | sorry... |
| 16:49 | <Dave`> | (though I'm interested if you can get me a nice netbsd domU notes :) |
| 16:49 | <michal`> | in fact just had shutdown freebsd 7 domU ;p |
| 16:49 | <michal`> | netbsd should be possible i think |
| 16:49 | <michal`> | there is something about xen in nbsd 4 tree |
| 16:50 | <michal`> | xen 3, xen 2 is afaik working with nbsd 3 |
| 16:50 | <Dave`> | hmmm |
| 16:50 | <Dave`> | so, in actual fact, currently only xenlinux works on xen 3 stable ? |
| 16:51 | <michal`> | uhm, yes |
| 16:51 | <Dave`> | heh |
| 16:51 | <michal`> | (lol) |
| 16:51 | <Dave`> | I'm going to have to upgrade to unstable then :P |
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| 16:51 | <michal`> | well |
| 16:51 | <michal`> | i am using unstable ;p |
| 16:52 | <michal`> | xen-unstable.hg |
| 16:52 | <michal`> | from that repo |
| 16:52 | <michal`> | nbsd officialy suports xen 2 |
| 16:52 | <michal`> | freebsd will be supporting in 7 but version 7 is a _long_ way ahead |
| 16:53 | <michal`> | so yes, xen 3 is linux only ;p |
| 16:53 | <michal`> | + mayby more with VT |
| 16:53 | <Dave`> | I heard Somewhere(tm) rumours about opensolaris on xen... Any info about that? |
| 16:53 | <Dave`> | ah. |
| 16:53 | <Dave`> | like, http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/xen/ :) |
| 16:54 | <michal`> | rumours as well |
| 16:54 | <michal`> | anyhting more known to working on xen now ? |
| 16:54 | <Dave`> | the rumours on the opensolaris site say it actually boots on xen3 |
| 16:54 | <Dave`> | but only diskless clients currently |
| 16:54 | <michal`> | http://www.netbsd.org/Changes/changes-4.0.html#port-xen |
| 16:55 | <Dave`> | so you need an nfs server to serve the data to opensolaris |
| 16:55 | <michal`> | no prob |
| 16:55 | <michal`> | it can be another xen machine ;p |
| 16:56 | <michal`> | i mean another domU ;p |
| 16:56 | <michal`> | btw lol @ netbsd site ;) |
| 16:56 | <michal`> | they do have sense of humour |
| 16:56 | <michal`> | * Non port specific changes that may affect port-xen. |
| 16:56 | <michal`> | * Add tetris. [lukem 20050401] |
| 16:56 | <michal`> | ;p |
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| 17:09 | <michal`> | Dave`: mayby will biuld netbsd current from scratch ^^ |
| 17:09 | <michal`> | *build |
| 17:10 | <michal`> | should be possible to do on linux |
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| 17:17 | <michal`> | even better |
| 17:17 | <michal`> | releng.netbsd.org |
| 17:18 | <michal`> | daily binary shapshoots |
| 17:18 | <michal`> | snapshoots |
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| 17:53 | <michal`> | will there be any never kernel supported by xen 2 ? |
| 17:58 | <hensema> | why would you want to run xen 2? |
| 18:06 | <michal`> | because nothing works with 3 ? |
| 18:06 | <michal`> | linux only |
| 18:06 | <michal`> | and with 2 i can have freebsd,netbsd and even (given some time and extra machines) opensolari |
| 18:07 | <michal`> | s |
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| 18:17 | <ivan> | michal`: maybe minix soon too, |
| 18:17 | <ivan> | plan9 already |
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