| --- | Log | opened Tue Feb 07 00:00:30 2006 |
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| 01:55 | <smcavoy> | hello, just wondering if its possible to run a 64bit kernel and all 32bit user space? i.e. I'd like to use the same kernel amongst several domUs |
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| 01:58 | <murb> | smcavoy: it should be possible. |
| 01:58 | <smcavoy> | cool, thanks murb |
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| 02:12 | <smcavoy> | hello. I'm getting this error when creating a new vm Error: Device 2049 (vbd) could not be connected. Backend device not found. |
| 02:12 | <smcavoy> | but I'm using a phy device |
| 02:13 | <smcavoy> | phy:vg0/debian32-sda1,sda1,w |
| 02:14 | <smcavoy> | wait... I am missing something... sleep |
| 02:14 | <smcavoy> | I missed named the lv |
| 02:26 | <Shaun> | murb: you still thier? |
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| 02:39 | <Shaun> | finally found the damn name! it was stupid easy too, god i feel dumb |
| 02:53 | <murb> | Shaun: yep |
| 03:05 | <Shaun> | murb: are you the guy i was talking with a while bakc |
| 03:05 | <Shaun> | about xen console as unpriv users? |
| 03:05 | <Shaun> | not that it matters much now, i just accomplished what i was trying to do with xenconsoled (at least it's working so far) :) |
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| 03:19 | <murb> | Shaun: i was thinking about doing that, what are you doing with xenconsoled? |
| 03:20 | <Shaun> | murb: well, my domains/guests are named as teh system user... |
| 03:20 | <murb> | at the moment i'm still using xen2 i've not had to solve the problem yet. |
| 03:21 | <Shaun> | murb: so, i have xenconsoled grabing the tty, name then uses getpwnam to get the uid and chowns that users pty |
| 03:21 | <Shaun> | i then stripped down xenconsole so that it doesnt require xenstore or any of that crap and just uses the users tty |
| 03:22 | <murb> | so a user logs in and xenconsoled uses the ssh pty or? |
| 03:22 | <Shaun> | right now it's all working, only think i need to do now is have xenconsoled create the symlink to /home/user/console to /dev/pts/ so that the user doesnt need xenstore access to get his domainid |
| 03:23 | <Shaun> | murb: right the user can now ssh into dom0 as their user and run xenconsole to get console access |
| 03:24 | <Shaun> | murb: i couldnt remember if it was you i was talking to abotu this like a week ago |
| 03:24 | <murb> | so you are just changing permissions of the domains pty or? |
| 03:24 | <Shaun> | not changing perms, changing ownership |
| 03:25 | <murb> | so you store a domain / username |
| 03:25 | <murb> | and then lookup username on domain start and chown to that user? |
| 03:25 | <murb> | or you have domainname == username? |
| 03:25 | <Shaun> | domainname is the username |
| 03:26 | <Shaun> | with my setup at least |
| 03:26 | <Shaun> | [root@localhost console][root@localhost console]# ./xenconsoled -i |
| 03:26 | <Shaun> | UserID: 500 |
| 03:26 | <Shaun> | dom tty: /dev/pts/4 |
| 03:26 | <Shaun> | dom name: u2xtest1 |
| 03:26 | <Shaun> | my output from my code |
| 03:27 | <Shaun> | [root@localhost console][root@localhost console]# ls -l /dev/pts/4 |
| 03:27 | <Shaun> | crw--w---- 1 u2xtest1 tty 136, 4 Feb 7 01:27 /dev/pts/4 |
| 03:27 | <murb> | hmm, i still think it might make sense to put and ownering uid/gid in xenstore. |
| 03:27 | <Shaun> | murb: no, it does... it makes perfect sense, i actually started trying to do that... |
| 03:27 | <Shaun> | setting like console_uid= in the config |
| 03:27 | <Shaun> | but it's over my head |
| 03:28 | <Shaun> | i started with the python |
| 03:28 | <Shaun> | but then it moved to xendclient |
| 03:28 | <Shaun> | and on... |
| 03:28 | <Shaun> | murb: if you have the skills to put it in the store that would semi solve the problem |
| 03:29 | <Shaun> | murb: the problem still is that the user has no permissions to xenstore |
| 03:30 | <Shaun> | in order for the user to find his pts you need to look it up, so you either set xenconsole to suid so it can connect and get that info which is pointless you might as well leave the pts root.tty or figure out somthing else. |
| 03:30 | <Shaun> | one reason i'm symlinking /home/user/console to /dev/pts/xx |
| 03:30 | <Shaun> | just have to make sure that symlink is always correct.. |
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| 03:34 | <Shaun> | murb: what company you with/run? |
| 03:35 | <murb> | Shaun: just my own small consultancy / hosting thing. |
| 03:35 | <murb> | no web foo yet... |
| 03:35 | <murb> | i am that lazy. |
| 03:35 | <Shaun> | ah, i see |
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| 03:47 | <murb> | Shaun: you have a hosting company or? |
| 03:48 | <Shaun> | yes |
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| 09:19 | <johnlev> | is there an lxr that works anywhere? I can't get anywhere with lxr.getxen.com |
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| 10:10 | <BugOne> | hi... can anybody explain me how can i run many windows manager under xen like seen here http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/screenshots/? |
| 10:12 | <m0dY\> | BugOne, i think itvnx |
| 10:12 | <m0dY\> | sorry, i think it's vnc |
| 10:13 | <BugOne> | in other words? |
| 10:13 | <mikegrb> | perhaps more googling and reading would help you |
| 10:13 | <BugOne> | could you be more explicit... i never used vnc... and i know is a remote visualization of machines... |
| 10:14 | <BugOne> | uhm |
| 10:14 | <BugOne> | i dont find what i'm searching for... |
| 10:15 | <mikegrb> | http://www.google.com/search?q=vnc |
| 10:15 | <m0dY\> | :D |
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| 10:16 | <m0dY> | radim is better ;) http://www.radmin.com/products/comparisons/index.php?r1=googleadwords&r2=competitorsgroup |
| 10:19 | <BugOne> | uhm mikegrb lol... |
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| 10:19 | <BugOne> | i mean how's structured the sistem on screenshots? vnc server running on dom0.... with x started.... |
| 10:20 | <BugOne> | than... kde and gnome running on clients? connecting to dom0? |
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| 10:22 | <m0dY> | yup |
| 10:22 | <m0dY> | i think so |
| 10:22 | <m0dY> | domU vnc servers |
| 10:22 | <m0dY> | and dom0 control them or any other vnc compatible system |
| 10:22 | <m0dY> | i mean any system having vnc client on it |
| 10:23 | <BugOne> | uhm... |
| 10:23 | <BugOne> | but if you cant run x under domUs.... i dont understand :/ |
| 10:23 | <m0dY> | x forwarding maybe |
| 10:25 | <BugOne> | in the 1st screenshot there are gnome and kde running together how is it possible? |
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| 10:27 | <m0dY> | Remote Desktop Connection |
| 10:27 | <m0dY> | http://www.freeos.com/articles/3292/ |
| 10:29 | <m0dY> | read what's above the first pic. |
| 10:29 | <m0dY> | The Xen 2.0 system that was used at OLS 2004. We're running KDE in domain 0 (which is a Redhat 9.0 install), with VNC connections to 4 other domains ....etc |
| 10:29 | <m0dY> | . |
| 10:31 | <BugOne> | so i dont understand :P that's why i asked :) |
| 10:32 | <BugOne> | how can start also gnome? |
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| 10:33 | <m0dY> | mmm |
| 10:33 | <m0dY> | got ya |
| 10:33 | <BugOne> | ? |
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| 10:34 | <m0dY> | well |
| 10:34 | <m0dY> | i think.. |
| 10:35 | <m0dY> | you have to install vnc server on a domU and start investigation from this point |
| 10:35 | <m0dY> | or send xen-dev |
| 10:36 | <m0dY> | also i think you have to read about x-forwarding over ssh |
| 10:36 | <BugOne> | ok |
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| 10:38 | <BugOne> | i'll watch... thank you :) |
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| 10:52 | <bunoc> | hi. i want to get the old Xen version of 2.0.8. how can i do it with mercurial? i am having unstable source tree now, and i suppose that with hg, i can extract the old version from it? but how? |
| 10:53 | <johnlev> | doesn't look like it has a tag for 2.0.8 |
| 10:53 | <johnlev> | (hg tags shows you) |
| 10:54 | <tab> | bunoc: no you can't from the unstable tree. the 2.0 and 3.0 tree are separated |
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| 11:16 | <bunoc> | johnlev: sorry, i meant 2.0.6 |
| 11:16 | <bunoc> | at least i found it from hg tags |
| 11:16 | <bunoc> | now how can i extract it? |
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| 14:59 | <bweck> | I'm noticing a 50-75% decrease in INCOMING network throughput in my domU vs dom0 (on an idle box with 1 domU w/bridging). Is that normal? |
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| 15:35 | <Shaun> | aliguori: well i started working on what you said, but after i modified create.py to grab the vars from the conf and what not it started to go a big over my head since i looked like it was passed to XendClient and onto somthing else... |
| 15:36 | <Shaun> | aliguori: did end up figuring out my io.c patch though for xenconsoled, it works for now i guess :) maybe in the future |
| 15:36 | <aliguori> | Shaun, good |
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| 18:22 | <Shaun> | i notice that with xenconsole that when connecting to a guest that it's blank until you hit enter or somthing, is there a way around this? enter could be dangorus based on whats happening, is it possible to send a rerfesh or somthing to the term? |
| 18:22 | <Shaun> | dangerous* |
| 18:24 | <aliguori> | Shaun, nope, xenconsole is essentially an emulated serial device |
| 18:25 | <aliguori> | this is why i've been working on a virtual framebuffer |
| 18:27 | <Shaun> | cool, alright for now i guess they just get a little warning about it. |
| 18:32 | <Shaun> | aliguori: not sure how your designing this hole thing but if possible it would be nice to dump the buffer to a logfile |
| 18:33 | <hollisb> | how do you log a framebuffer? |
| 18:33 | <Shaun> | hollisb: with UML i logged console output to a file using screen |
| 18:33 | <hollisb> | so you're not logging a framebuffer |
| 18:34 | <hollisb> | why can't you use screen with xenconsole? |
| 18:34 | <Shaun> | dunno, i'm just logging all console output. |
| 18:34 | <aliguori> | hollisb, yeah, some folks have gotten that to work apparently.. i've not |
| 18:34 | <Shaun> | hollisb: well i could... problem with screen is it gives users the ability to do many things... |
| 18:36 | <Shaun> | with uml i had to have a custom screenrc that removed all those control's |
| 18:36 | <aliguori> | hollisb, down the road, i want to have a true cga mode for the framebuffer which could then be logged |
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| 18:36 | <hollisb> | Shaun: again, why can't you do the same thing with xenconsole? |
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| 18:37 | <Shaun> | hollisb: no reason i cant, just would rather not... besides screen can attach directly to the pts, no need for xenconsole |
| 18:37 | <Shaun> | hollisb: one reason i dont want to do it this way was because a screen update came out that changed somethings, ended up breaking the conf and giving all that access back... |
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