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| 01:59 | <Shaun> | anybody know how i can change the name of the interface thats brought up on dom0 when a guest is started |
| 01:59 | <Shaun> | i tryed passing vifname= but that doesnt seam to work |
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| 06:02 | <johnlev> | um, has anyone actually used pygrub successfully? |
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| 07:17 | <grifferz> | is there anyone who understands where I am going wrong with this networking problem: http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2006-01/msg00998.html ? |
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| 07:53 | <grifferz> | ahah! I just got somewhere with it, just looks like the scripts aren't setting things up properly |
| 07:53 | <grifferz> | bbl |
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| 09:32 | <ivan> | any developers on? |
| 09:39 | <aliguori> | i think it depends on how loselessly you define the term developer :-) |
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| 09:43 | <ivan> | anyone with knowledge about how xen sets up the GDT and such :) |
| 09:43 | <aliguori> | what's your question? |
| 09:50 | <ivan> | well, i have a custom builder, that sets up the a custom gdt, and i start with the DS set to a descriptor in this custom GDT |
| 09:51 | <ivan> | but a mov (0x0), 0xdeadbeef will put 0xdeadbeef at the start of the code section, not at the start of the DS section |
| 09:51 | <ivan> | $ds seems to be set right according to gdb |
| 09:51 | <ivan> | and it has me stumped |
| 09:52 | <aliguori> | are you sure you have the gdt setup correctly? |
| 09:53 | <aliguori> | with a single entry per page |
| 09:54 | <ivan> | how do you mean? cs is [base=0x00000000,limit=0xfc400000] and ds is [base=0x00006000,limit=0xfc40000] |
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| 09:56 | <m0dY> | hello all,, i have a dual opteron 244 with 3gb ecc,,, is choosing Cpuset Support a good idea in the kernel config for my dom0 ?? |
| 10:02 | <aliguori> | ivan, i'm pretty sure there's some funkiness about how things are put in the descriptor tables.. like each one has to fall on a page boundary so that they can be individually protected--but this isn't my area of expertise. i'd try to find the gdt setup code in linux and compare |
| 10:02 | <aliguori> | ivan, so there's a lot of entries that aren't valid to use.. |
| 10:03 | <aliguori> | i may be blowing smoke though... :-) |
| 10:03 | <ivan> | hmmm, i've mailed xen-devel |
| 10:03 | <ivan> | ds should be on a page boundary in any case |
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| 11:12 | <johnlev> | katzj: there? |
| 11:14 | <katzj> | johnlev: about to run to lunch |
| 11:14 | <katzj> | what's up? |
| 11:15 | <johnlev> | go have lunch, I want to ask you about a couple more pygrub things... |
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| 11:16 | <katzj> | johnlev: okay -- I'll ping you when I get back |
| 11:17 | <johnlev> | thanks. |
| 11:19 | <m0dY> | is there a pastebin for this room ? |
| 11:22 | <m0dY> | well, any idea why am i getting this xen 3 kernel compilation error on my 64bit machine ?????? http://pastebin.com/524204 |
| 11:23 | <m0dY> | ?? :( |
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| 11:28 | <m0dY> | :/ no help here |
| 11:36 | <Cyis> | m0dY: not sure but I'm running a make world on my amd64 right now so I'll see if I get the same |
| 11:37 | <tab_> | m0dY: remove CONFIG_DISCONTIGMEM from your kernel |
| 11:38 | <tab_> | m0dY: please, cut the number of "?" too, one is enough |
| 11:39 | <ivan> | do freebsd or netbsd use segmented memory? |
| 11:41 | <tab_> | ivan: every x86 OS does .. |
| 11:42 | <ivan> | yes, but does it actually use them, or do like linux and just create 2 segments containing all memory or give each code/data segment its own |
| 11:43 | <tab_> | they probably use a flat model, like linux |
| 11:44 | <tab_> | (disclaimer: I never read {net|free}bsd code) |
| 11:44 | <ivan> | ya, thats what im assuming |
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| 11:44 | <tab_> | no (sane) OS want to mess with segments .. |
| 11:46 | <ivan> | minix does, so it's giving a major headache to port |
| 11:47 | <tab_> | well that's exactly the point of not using segments ... |
| 11:47 | <tab_> | segments are not easily portable to others archs |
| 11:48 | <m0dY> | tab_: what if i did "make clean" in my xen-src dir. , will i have to run make world again ?? |
| 11:48 | <tab_> | m0dY: yes |
| 11:48 | <m0dY> | oh |
| 11:48 | <m0dY> | okay |
| 11:50 | <m0dY> | tab_: so what is CONFIG_DISCONTIGMEM all about ? |
| 11:50 | <tab_> | numa stuff |
| 11:51 | <tab_> | thing you don't really have under Xen anyway |
| 11:51 | <m0dY> | yeah, i read about numa also seen an option about numa emulation but do i need it ? |
| 11:51 | <tab_> | obviously my answer lie in the lines before .. |
| 11:52 | <m0dY> | yup |
| 11:52 | <m0dY> | got a phobia cause i just wanna get use of all my 64bit advantages |
| 12:02 | <m0dY> | tab_: is there any way i can get the 2.6.15 up as a dom0 or a domU ? |
| 12:03 | <tab_> | not in 64 bits |
| 12:03 | <m0dY> | oh |
| 12:04 | <m0dY> | so i can get it as a domU and be a 32bit ? |
| 12:04 | <tab_> | well it could work as a domU actually |
| 12:04 | <m0dY> | although the dom0 is a 64bit |
| 12:04 | <tab_> | no |
| 12:04 | <m0dY> | mmm |
| 12:04 | <m0dY> | why ?! |
| 12:04 | <johnlev> | katzj: have to go now, catch up some other time |
| 12:04 | <tab_> | you can get the merge tree |
| 12:05 | <m0dY> | isn't it will be a separate kernel for the domU |
| 12:05 | <tab_> | and have a 2.6.15 domU |
| 12:05 | <m0dY> | where ? |
| 12:05 | <tab_> | what about googling ? |
| 12:05 | <tab_> | you can get lots of answer and more looking at the ML archives |
| 12:05 | <m0dY> | got it before from googling from a long time and some stuff about hg |
| 12:05 | <katzj> | johnlev: heh, and I was just about to say that I'm back. but okay. or send me mail and I'll try to make sure I reply |
| 12:07 | <johnlev> | ok |
| 12:07 | <m0dY> | so any idea where to get it :) ? |
| 12:07 | <tab_> | http://xenbits.xensource.com/linux-2.6-xen.hg |
| 12:09 | <m0dY> | any how to ? |
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| 12:16 | <m0dY> | got it :) |
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| 12:44 | <m0dY> | tab_: removed the numa support and commented out the CONFIG_DISCONTIGMEM and passed over the old error and then a new error got it ..!! here http://pastebin.com/524342 |
| 12:58 | <m0dY> | any idea !? |
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| 13:35 | <m0dY> | tab_: any idea ? |
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| 15:00 | <toggles> | sorry if this is a faq i can't find the answer, is it possible to buy vt/pacifica support that works with xen? I know it's been demo'd but can i do it at home? |
| 15:02 | <Cyis> | I am under the impression that Intel VT (Vanderpool) support was scheduled for mid-'05 release and should be out and that AMD PACIFIC support is not yet released... Would need to look further to verify though so it's not gospel |
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| 15:02 | <ivan> | Cyis: thats what is says on the site anyhow |
| 15:02 | <ivan> | intel site that is |
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| 15:06 | <toggles> | i am under the impression that it's in the core duo chips, i was just wondering if people were actually doing it? |
| 15:07 | <toggles> | also i read somewhere that the vt is 'software' which sounded wierd and seems to say wait a while until you buy the chip |
| 15:08 | <Cyis> | that's just what I'd read/heard... right now that hardware is a bit out of my budget :) |
| 15:15 | <toggles> | ~$250 for a pent d920 doesn't seem too unreasonable... now the ee955 at 4x the price... |
| 15:16 | <toggles> | i wonder if it works |
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| 15:23 | <bschulz> | installed Xen 3.0 on RHEL4 system... dom0 seems to work fine except when xend starts my eth0 goes down |
| 15:24 | <bschulz> | it comes back up when you do an ifup eth0 but you have to do that from the cosole... any idea why this would be? |
| 15:25 | <bschulz> | haven't gotten any network connectivity from domUs yet either, I haven't found anything on the web that says I'm going about this the wrong way |
| 15:27 | <DV> | you need special network scripts for Xen |
| 15:28 | <bschulz> | ok, can you point me to some documentation or something for how to get/create them? |
| 15:28 | <bschulz> | if it's in the Xen docs I must have just missed it... |
| 15:30 | <DV> | see Rawhide lastest package /etc/xen/scripts/ |
| 15:31 | <DV> | it'd not simple I don't know of any doc |
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| 19:57 | [~] | aliguori thinks xensource needs to lighten the marketing stuff a little |
| 19:57 | <aliguori> | http://x86vmm.blogspot.com/2006/01/hola-amigos.html |
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| 21:03 | <m0dY> | can i replace the steps done by make linux-2.6-xen0-install manually ??? |
| 21:06 | <m0dY> | in other words, what does it do exactly and where are the files copied by it placed ? |
| 21:10 | <m0dY> | ok, can i know after running this comman "make linux-2.6-xen0-install" where are the files placed either than /boot and /lib/modules ??! |
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| 21:16 | <Cyis> | aliguori: how so? that was a VMware employ talking about Xen... counter productive in a way :) |
| 21:16 | <aliguori> | Cyis, look at those slides.. they are kind of over the top |
| 21:17 | <Cyis> | aliguori: I'll have to look at them later... I don't have oo2 for amd64 and I don't have it setup under chroot yet |
| 21:18 | <Cyis> | then again I never was much for the marketing material anyway... sales people hate me cause I either know I want their product and specifically what I want or I don't |
| 21:18 | <aliguori> | some of the press releases that have gone out about xen are quite hilarious :-) |
| 21:19 | [~] | aliguori should stop reading press releases :-) |
| 21:19 | <aliguori> | perhaps I just don't understand... |
| 21:20 | <Cyis> | Cyclades didn't like me when I called them... I wanted a quote for a specific model with specific accessories and they want'd to tell me about the whole line and get an eval of what I was trying to do :) |
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| 21:20 | <aliguori> | :-) |
| 21:21 | <Cyis> | same with Dell |
| 21:21 | <Cyis> | I still get emails from our account team manager telling me about all the specials going on and wanting to know what our IT plans are so she can help us plan |
| 21:22 | <Cyis> | granted I have an account with Dell that allows me to order quite a bit before they start to bat an eyelash... All I have to do is get a PO fax'd and it's shipping |
| 21:23 | <Cyis> | aliguori: btw... wrt to the debian packaging team idea... I've heard from everyone *but* the current DD that has the xen package |
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| 21:35 | <aliguori> | Cyis: excellent |
| 21:36 | <Cyis> | well I grab'd the 3.0.0 live cd image off the torrent and burn'd it at work today... gonna try booting it and see if it has the same problem that 2.0.7 has on this one machine |
| 21:39 | <Cyis> | ok... looks like if I'm going to use these remaining machines for Xen I'll be buying some new mobo/cpu and ram |
| 21:41 | <Cyis> | it would appear that although they removed the test from the x86_32.S code it still won't boot on an AMD-K6 machine but it also doesn't present any warning or error to that effect... it just hangs |
| 21:46 | <m0dY> | can i know after running this comman "make linux-2.6-xen0-install" where are the files placed either than /boot and /lib/modules ??! |
| 21:47 | <Cyis> | m0dY: you could do the following: make DESTDIR=/some/path/test linux-2.6-xen0-install |
| 21:48 | <Cyis> | then look in /some/path/test to see what all it installed |
| 21:56 | <m0dY> | Cyis, ok, gonna do it :) |
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| 22:18 | <m0dY> | can i do the same with ./install.sh ?? |
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| 22:19 | <m0dY> | Cyris, ?! |
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| 22:24 | <Cyis> | bah... about that time that I backup $HOME and /opt and re-install this machine... problem with using my workstation for development... I end up screwing things up eventually |
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| 23:14 | <m0dY> | anybody here ? |
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| 23:26 | <johnny43> | hi guys.. i need a bit of help |
| 23:26 | <johnny43> | is there a way to run xen3 with a 2.4 kernel? |
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| 23:48 | <m0dY> | why do u ever need xen 3 while willig to use 2.4 ? |
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