| --- | Log | opened Sun Jun 12 00:00:54 2005 |
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| 01:48 | cilkay | Woohoo! I have a Mandriva 2005 LE VM running on Mandriva 2005 LE. |
| 01:49 | chrish01 | wow, people still use mandrake? |
| 01:49 | cilkay | The install script did not create the necessary directories in /var/lib/xen or /var/run/xend |
| 01:49 | chrish01 | debian is the same |
| 01:50 | cilkay | yeah, sure, whatever you say:) |
| 01:51 | cilkay | A visit to #debian, where they eat their young, and then a visit to #mandriva will prove that they are NOT the same at all. |
| 01:51 | chrish01 | thats fine. i dont need to be in #debian to rip on people :) |
| 01:51 | cilkay | I have little use for the "mine is bigger than your's" attitude of many folks on #debian |
| 01:52 | chrish01 | the quality of debian is amazingly beyond the rest. i can easily see why they get big heads from time to time |
| 01:53 | cilkay | No question Debian is a good distro but there are other good distros too. |
| 01:53 | chrish01 | depends what you are using them for too. i would never run a server with anything other than debian anymore though. just not worth it |
| 01:54 | cilkay | The people who have big heads are more often the wannabes, not the real gurus. Gurus do not have to remind everyone of how smart they are. |
| 01:54 | chrish01 | nod |
| 01:54 | chrish01 | your work should speak for you |
| 01:54 | cilkay | Exactly. |
| 01:54 | chrish01 | unfortunately, i dont think mandriva's work has shown for them ;-) |
| 01:55 | chrish01 | im not big on their admin tools. i think they were a giant step backwards into the linuxconf days |
| 01:55 | cilkay | I've been using Mandrake since the first release. Like any distro, it has its pros and cons. |
| 01:56 | chrish01 | i used it from the 6 release to 7.2 |
| 01:56 | cilkay | MCC is a gem. The draktools are excellent. I love urpmi. I gained a healthy respect for Mandrake/Mandriva after learning how to package RPMs for MDK and creating my own urpmi repository. |
| 01:56 | chrish01 | back when redhat was fucking up big time. then switched to gentoo until around 2001, then to debian shortly after |
| 01:57 | chrish01 | i think urpmi was good concept, but it is far from being as a good of tool as apt |
| 01:57 | cilkay | I've used both. I think both have their pros and cons. |
| 01:57 | cilkay | I could live with Debian if I had to, but I don't have to. |
| 01:58 | chrish01 | i rarely use gui's. so the lack of good cli tools on mandrake doesnt cut it |
| 01:58 | cilkay | Besides, I will in all likelihood be creating Debian/Ubuntu VMs on this box. |
| 01:58 | chrish01 | thats a smart choice. running xen with having apt to bootstrap makes things tons easier |
| 01:58 | cilkay | Huh? MDK has all the cli tools that any other distro has and then some. |
| 01:58 | chrish01 | their ncurses stuff sucks |
| 01:59 | cilkay | Well, not *this* box. This is a laptop. The server that I just got running. |
| 01:59 | chrish01 | they tried to bridge things to make it like gtk, which was not smart IMO |
| 01:59 | cilkay | I think you're talking about a different distro. |
| 02:00 | chrish01 | naw, they *used* to make all the drakconf shit work for both ncurses and gtk |
| 02:00 | cilkay | They still do. |
| 02:00 | cilkay | Works great both ways. |
| 02:00 | cilkay | I've done a remote install of Mandrake on a server in Germany to which I had no physical access or remote hands. |
| 02:00 | chrish01 | anyway, i dont like to debate os's. i try not to take the trolls when they come along |
| 02:00 | cilkay | The tools work great if take the time to learn them. |
| 02:01 | chrish01 | dude, i remotely changed a redhat 9 box to freebsd |
| 02:02 | cilkay | *dude*, for someone who doesn't feed trolls, you certainly seem to behave like one with your inane comments about "Mandrake, people still use that?" |
| 02:02 | cilkay | Anyway, g'nite. |
| 02:02 | chrish01 | that was more of ajoke |
| 02:02 | cilkay | Jokes don't travel well on IRC I'm afraid, esp. if you don't use little smiley thingies. |
| 02:02 | cilkay | Cheers. |
| 02:03 | chrish01 | night |
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| 12:32 | tryggth | I'm using Xen from Fedora development and everything is going pretty well. Have a FedoraCore3 image running. But I'm having trouble getting the swap file to work. |
| 12:33 | tryggth | I've added disk = ['file:/root/FedoraCore3.img,sda1,w','file:/root/FedoraCore3.swap,sda2,w'] to the configuration file. |
| 12:33 | tryggth | And in /etc/fstab in the domU instance I added a line for the swap file. |
| 12:33 | tryggth | But when I start the domU instance and then check with top the swap file isn't there. |
| 12:34 | tryggth | I like in /dev in the domU instance and though I see /dev/sda1 I don't see sda2. |
| 12:35 | tryggth | I'm thinking it may have something to do with udev not working in dom0 or domU, but that is just a guess. |
| 12:36 | tryggth | The line added to fstab is: /dev/sda2 swap swap defaults 0 0 |
| 12:38 | tryggth | Any ideas? I've tried using mknod but I get the feeling that the dev entries are being created during boot. |
| 12:42 | riel | did you mkswap /root/FedoraCore3.swap ? |
| 12:48 | tryggth | Yes. But let me try it again. It did have a slightly unexpected message. |
| 12:50 | tryggth | mkswap return the following two lines: |
| 12:50 | tryggth | Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 524283 kB |
| 12:50 | tryggth | no label, UUID=e8ff9a40-b7fc-49d0-b608-7d00738d94eb |
| 12:51 | tryggth | It was the "nolabel" comment I was thinking about... and that isn't all that unexpected. |
| 12:51 | tryggth | Just ran it and still am not getting the swap file. |
| 12:51 | tryggth | I'm sure its going to be something silly since everyting else is working well. Just can't figure out what it is... |
| 12:51 | tryggth | Hmm. |
| 13:00 | tryggth | I guess I could try figuring it out if I knew how the /dev/sda2 entry is getting set up in the domU filesystem image. |
| 13:00 | tryggth | What is strange is that the /root/FedoraCore3.img file is being used just fine. |
| 13:25 | tryggth | Just tried: xm vbd-create basic file:/root/FedoraCore3.swap sda2 w |
| 13:25 | tryggth | No error message but still no /dev/sda2 created. |
| 13:27 | tryggth | However the log is showing: DEBUG (blkif:63) exception looking up device number for sda2: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/dev/sda2' |
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| 13:33 | tryggth | OK, my mknod was probably wrong in the client image. I changed it to mknod -m 660 sda2 b 8 2 and now when I run the vbd-create message I get an immediate error. |
| 13:34 | tryggth | Error: Creating vbd failed: device (vbd (uname file:/root/FedoraCore3.swap) (dev sda2) (mode w)), error 5 |
| 13:49 | tryggth | I have to do more to figure this stuff out before I ask silly questions. Thanks. |
| 13:59 | tryggth | Found the problem. My image didn't have the right xenU /lib/modules. Sorry for the confusion. |
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| 16:03 | newsham | I'm a bk newbie, but according to the web page I should just be able to bk clone <rep> and have all the files right? I cloned bk://xen.bkbits.net/xeno-unstable.bk and I see a bunch of SCCS directories but no makefile. |
| 16:07 | newsham | ahh, I think it had errors.. |
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| 19:44 | adrianoc | hi, i try MAKE WORLD, but returno this message: |
| 19:44 | adrianoc | usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-slackware-linux/3.3.4/../../../../i486-slackware-linux/bin/ld: cannot find -lssl |
| 19:51 | adrianoc | somebody, please ? |
| 20:06 | adrianoc | i found, it lacked openssl |
| 20:06 | adrianoc | i am back |
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