| --- | Log | opened Thu Jun 02 00:00:40 2005 |
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| 03:42 | dopez | im trying to figure out how to get a pci card useable in a xen domain, but the manual is a little vague about it, maybe someone here has an example for the config file (it is just something to enter in the config file, right?) |
| 03:42 | chrish01 | a document on that would be nice. id like to do the same thing with a 3des hw accelerator |
| 03:44 | dopez | for me it would me my pvr250 and a mythtv backend |
| 03:48 | chrish01 | oh yes, fun |
| 03:48 | mael | hi chrish01 and dopez |
| 03:48 | chrish01 | howdy mael |
| 03:48 | mael | chrish01: your files on trac have no mention of the licence |
| 03:49 | chrish01 | mael, it has to be GPL |
| 03:49 | chrish01 | no other option |
| 03:49 | chrish01 | since libxen-python is gpl |
| 03:49 | chrish01 | but thanks, ill add that now :) |
| 03:49 | mael | yeah but I think you have to put the licence in each file anyway :) |
| 03:49 | mael | yup thanks |
| 03:50 | chrish01 | added to ~/LICENSE |
| 03:50 | dopez | hiya mael |
| 03:51 | mael | lo dopez |
| 04:17 | mael | chrish01: will you provide daily tarballs? |
| 04:18 | chrish01 | mael, once its more than a prototype i dont see why not |
| 04:18 | chrish01 | i have 0 plans to use bitkeeper though lol |
| 04:19 | mael | trac is nice imho |
| 04:20 | chrish01 | one company i work for (medsphere) hired tobias from rubyonrails to make a new one |
| 04:20 | chrish01 | it will support more backends like arch and baz and such |
| 04:20 | mael | a new what? |
| 04:20 | chrish01 | i will most likely switch to that and baz at some point |
| 04:20 | chrish01 | a tool just like trac |
| 04:21 | mael | mmh why not just extended trac? |
| 04:21 | chrish01 | cause its python :) |
| 04:21 | chrish01 | err perl |
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| 04:22 | chrish01 | rubyonrails can do some much cooler stuff with much less code. and our CTO hacks ruby |
| 04:22 | chrish01 | rubyonrails + ajax is amazing |
| 04:24 | mael | mmh too much languages |
| 04:24 | chrish01 | nod |
| 04:25 | chrish01 | if ironpython didnt suck so hard, i would have done xenmanager in mono |
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| 05:07 | mael | chrish01: how do you plan to manage templates? |
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| 05:09 | mael | I more or less expected to be able to create a template without doing a connection |
| 05:11 | chrish01 | that is the idea |
| 05:12 | chrish01 | its gonna be tough to make it build the fs on the remote machine and such |
| 05:12 | chrish01 | still thinking about that |
| 05:12 | chrish01 | friday i might hack drag'n'drop migration and such. hope to have templates be able to do the same |
| 05:16 | mael | you use template to create a new VM, right? |
| 05:17 | chrish01 | yea |
| 05:17 | mael | I expect to be able to create a template from a running VM also |
| 05:17 | chrish01 | ok, ill make note of that |
| 05:17 | | * mael is writing a small manual for the wiki |
| 05:17 | chrish01 | cool |
| 05:18 | mael | what info will you have in the template? |
| 05:19 | mael | I'll commit the wiki page after lunch though |
| 05:19 | chrish01 | hmm |
| 05:20 | mael | my colleagues are starving :) |
| 05:20 | chrish01 | i havent thought too deep into templates yet. if you put it into the wiki, ill be forced to code it :) |
| 05:20 | mael | hehe |
| 05:20 | chrish01 | if people want it and would find it useful, i will make sure it gets into the codebase |
| 05:20 | mael | ok I'll write a wish list on the wiki then :) |
| 05:20 | chrish01 | sounds good |
| 05:20 | mael | cya |
| 05:20 | chrish01 | later |
| 05:20 | chrish01 | im headed to bed myself |
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| 06:46 | mael | chrish01: I hope you won't mind if I'm changing stuff on the trac wiki, rearranging, making a project description, Screenshots, etc... :) |
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| 07:13 | mael | Sir_Ahzz: would it be possible to add "|| xenmanager gui project http://xenmanager.dronestudios.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi" to the topic? |
| 07:15 | trash | there is not +t set in here, so it is possible by everyone to change the topic. |
| 07:16 | --- | Channel: mael changed the topic of #xen to: Xen Homepage-> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/index.html || Xen Wiki -> http://wiki.xensource.com || vm-tools : http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/aliguori/vm-tools/ || xenmanager gui project http://xenmanager.dronestudios.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi |
| 07:16 | mael | trash: oups :) it used to be there |
| 07:16 | mael | Sir_Ahzz: thanks for your cooperation :) |
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| 08:52 | mael | hi franR |
| 08:52 | franR | 'lut mael |
| 08:53 | mael | ca tourne inextensia? c pas trop la galere de démarcher les pme? |
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| 10:16 | franR | mael, sorry, it was "children time" ;) |
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| 10:18 | franR | mael, yep, it's hard ! (on se connait ?) |
| 10:18 | mael | no we don't |
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| 10:20 | mael | but I know Orsay pretty well |
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| 10:21 | doremifa | why xenstore havent merged yet? |
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| 10:26 | @Sir_Ahzz | heh |
| 10:26 | @Sir_Ahzz | I'll check the chanserv settings to see if it's setup to keep the curent topic. |
| 10:26 | franR | mael, hé hé ! Does INHA have an office in Orsay ? |
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| 10:27 | strafbomber | hello |
| 10:28 | strafbomber | is it possible to limit the cpu usage for each domain? |
| 10:28 | mael | franR: no I was a student there and I still live a few km from Orsay |
| 10:29 | franR | ;) |
| 10:30 | mael | well, time to go |
| 10:30 | mael | cya lads |
| 10:30 | rharper | strafbomber: probably through modifying the scheduler parameters... xen has two schedulers now, BVT (Borrowed Virtual Time) and SEDF(Simple Earlies Deadline First) |
| 10:31 | strafbomber | is there any doc on it? |
| 10:31 | franR | bye mael |
| 10:31 | rharper | strafbomber: this is the best I've found: http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-devel/2005-02/msg00035.html |
| 10:31 | strafbomber | thx |
| 10:31 | rharper | there is some doc on sedf in the doc directory, not much though |
| 10:36 | demon | is 'sedf' available in xen testing, or just in unstable? |
| 10:36 | demon | and does it provide any of the features that the atropos scheduler did/was going to? |
| 10:36 | doremifa | anybody knows what is "xen node"? i dont understand this notation. |
| 10:37 | demon | er... gonna need a little context |
| 10:37 | doremifa | like xendnode.py in the source code |
| 10:38 | rharper | demon: only unstable, you can check xen/common/sched_sedf.c <--- if thats there, you have it |
| 10:38 | doremifa | node in cluster? |
| 10:38 | rharper | probably as single domU, but thats just a guess |
| 10:38 | doremifa | rharper: any benefit using sedf over others? |
| 10:39 | demon | yeah, if you look at the operations listed in the XendNode.py source, it's referring to operations against a domain |
| 10:39 | doremifa | i dont see why there are so many schedulers :) |
| 10:39 | demon | because different uses have different scheduling needs? |
| 10:40 | doremifa | demon: i guess so. but because i never think i need to change scheduler, so ... |
| 10:41 | rharper | doremifa: supposedly. I've done a little benchmarking, and for me it has been inconclusive, sometimes sedf does better, other loads worse. |
| 10:41 | rharper | others have seen this as well, after tuning, they were seeing better perf, but no one has done any work to lay those tweaks out and how they affect various loads (io, cpu, lock-intesive, SMP vs UP) etc. |
| 10:42 | rharper | doremifa: Ian has mention several times that sedf is going to be the default scheduler, I don't konw if that means bvt will be dropped entirely, or if they will keep both |
| 10:43 | doremifa | sedf to be default? thanks for this information |
| 10:44 | doremifa | rharper: off topic, GregKH previously worked for IBM, but now i see his email address is novell? he moved? |
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| 10:46 | doremifa | hmm... i am wating for xenstore to be merged. Ian an co are slow on applying patches |
| 10:48 | movement | what /is/ xenstore? |
| 10:49 | doremifa | movement: take a look at wiki.xensource.com |
| 10:49 | doremifa | there are some informations |
| 10:52 | demon | is that related to the XenFS project? |
| 10:52 | movement | doremifa: hmm, where? search gives no results |
| 10:52 | movement | ah nm |
| 10:53 | rharper | doremifa: I have no idea. GregKH has a ton of email address, wasted a week sending questions to the "wrong" one |
| 10:54 | doremifa | i read somewhere that he works for novell, and in reality he has novell.com address. so i guess IBM fired him :) |
| 10:55 | rharper | yeah, I dunno |
| 10:56 | doremifa | any idea why they use uuid for domain, device and backend? |
| 10:57 | doremifa | Universal Unique IDentifier. hmm |
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| 11:01 | doremifa | anybody know when Mark finishes XenFS? |
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| 11:21 | tab | doremifa: it's far from working ATM |
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| 11:27 | strafbomber | someone running xen whit gentoo? |
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| 11:46 | jason__ | where can i get documentation on Xensv ? |
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| 14:07 | tessier | FC4 in just 4 more days! Woohoo! |
| 14:22 | mael_ | debian sarge in... uh forget it |
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| 19:33 | chrish01 | mael, thanks a ton for working on that wiki |
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