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| 07:38 | tessier | The xen binaries really need to come with loopback and some crypto enabled. |
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| 07:58 | mufa | hi. I am trying to install xen on a fc4t3 machine smp machine. When I try to boot xen kernel (vmlinuz-2.6.11-1.1341_FC4xen0) it keeps rebooting it. |
| 07:59 | tessier | give the kernel the noreboot option in grub |
| 07:59 | tessier | I ran into that problem once. |
| 07:59 | tessier | That way it won't reboot right away and you can see what the problem is |
| 07:59 | tessier | Probably has something to do with init dying |
| 07:59 | mufa | tessier: probably I will see something like "call trace bla bla on screen" |
| 08:05 | mael | mufa: it looks more like a kernel panic then |
| 08:07 | mufa | usually kernel panics freeze the machine, does not reboots it |
| 08:08 | mufa | going to check the error |
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| 08:11 | mael | mufa: xen reboots the machine if it can't initialize dom0 |
| 08:11 | mael | (from what I experienced, YMMV) |
| 08:26 | mufa | well, I got something like "Cannon open device "VoGroup00/LogVol00" please append correct root |
| 08:26 | mufa | s/Cannon/Cannot |
| 08:27 | tessier | mufa: I think that is the same problem I am having. You installed from binaries? |
| 08:27 | mufa | tessier: yes, using yum |
| 08:27 | knewt | for lvm2 don't you need an initrd configured to do user-space volume discovery? |
| 08:28 | mufa | knewt: I think I need, but dont know how to make an intird |
| 08:28 | tessier | knewt: I specified the module initrd stuff and still had the same problem |
| 08:28 | tessier | You probably already have an initrd. You should just be able to use it. |
| 08:28 | knewt | i wouldn't have a clue how you need to do it. for my initrd i built it by hand |
| 08:28 | mufa | well, funny part is that I installed it on another machine, with lmv also, and it worked |
| 08:29 | mufa | and on 2nd machine I have an initrd file, but not here |
| 08:29 | tessier | mufa: Is your / on lvm? |
| 08:29 | mufa | tessier: yes it is |
| 08:29 | tessier | I have it on my laptop with lvm but / is not on lvm on the laptop. It is on the server though. |
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| 08:29 | tessier | mufa: Is / on lvm on both of the systems? |
| 08:29 | mufa | tessier: yes it is |
| 08:30 | tessier | And it works on one but not the other? Hmm...what distros? |
| 08:30 | mufa | fc4t3 on both of them |
| 08:30 | mufa | from the same cds :) |
| 08:30 | mufa | /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01 / |
| 08:30 | mufa | on the working machine |
| 08:31 | mufa | on the other it is LogVol00 |
| 08:32 | mufa | more funny: when I installed xen kernel on working machine, it also updated my grub.conf file. On the other machine, grub is unchanged |
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| 08:38 | mufa | I think I will give up using lvm |
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| 08:50 | jbailey | Looking at the xen_summit notes from February at http://lists.osdl.org/pipermail/xen_summit/2005-February/000019.html - I found a line "** Xen-friendly nptl implementation - a small patch to glibc, need distros to use a specific compile option." |
| 08:51 | jbailey | Is there somewhere I can find out more about this? |
| 08:51 | jbailey | I'd like to make Ubuntu's NPTL implementation useful with Xen if we can safely do it. |
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| 08:54 | knewt | mufa: you've tried following one of the many lvm2/initrd howtos around on the web of course? |
| 09:06 | mufa | knewt: I was not able to find any :( |
| 09:08 | mufa | knewt: got it, thank you |
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| 12:24 | Treibholz | # xm migrate debian-woody invalidian |
| 12:24 | Treibholz | Error: Error: [Failure instance: Traceback: twisted.internet.error.ConnectionRefusedError, Connection was refused by other side: 111: Connection refused. |
| 12:24 | Treibholz | what have I done wrong? |
| 12:24 | Treibholz | the other machine is up and xend running. |
| 12:26 | knewt | xfrd is up and running ok as well? and you're not firewalling off port 8002? |
| 12:28 | Treibholz | ahh |
| 12:28 | Treibholz | no |
| 12:28 | Treibholz | xfrd is missing :-) |
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| 13:32 | doremifa | hi. in unstable, xcs and xend are running at the same time. what is their relationship between them? which kind of information each is handling now? |
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| 14:15 | knewt | xcs is a multiplexor. it does the actual talking to the system, and xend then talks to it. means you can have multiple independant programs running controlling different xen-related stuff |
| 14:17 | doremifa | knewt: so the system works this way: information go to xcs, then xcs forward them to xend? |
| 14:18 | knewt | i believe so, yes |
| 14:18 | doremifa | is that correct? any case information come straight to xend, without going thru xcs? |
| 14:18 | knewt | this is all from memory of course, and i haven't looked at the toolchain of -unstable for rather a while now |
| 14:19 | aliguori | doremifa: it's a bit more inolved than that |
| 14:20 | aliguori | doremifa: xcs only multiplexes the control channel traffic (which is the domain to domain communications) |
| 14:20 | aliguori | all hypercalls are made directly by Xend |
| 14:20 | doremifa | aliguori: so which kind of information come to xend, without going thru xcs? |
| 14:20 | aliguori | the control channel is used for shutting down domains and managing virtual devices (also handles virtual consoles) |
| 14:21 | aliguori | the domains that are running, the memory for each domain |
| 14:21 | aliguori | the cpu information associated with the domains |
| 14:21 | aliguori | doremifa: xcs is only really used when there's console data being exchanged or briefly during virtual device initialization |
| 14:25 | doremifa | aliguori: i see. afterall, xcs will forward information to xend, rite? |
| 14:26 | aliguori | doremifa: the only thing really "forwarded" to xend is the console output |
| 14:26 | aliguori | doremifa: are you just trying to understand or do you have a specific problem/concern? |
| 14:26 | aliguori | the exact relationship is more understand if you understand the way the control channel works (the message ring queues) |
| 14:27 | aliguori | and for what it's worth, xcs will probably disappear by the time 3.0 goes gold |
| 14:27 | aliguori | since the store is going to handle device discovery |
| 14:28 | doremifa | aliguori: i am trying to understand how xen works |
| 14:29 | doremifa | so when 3.0 testing out, the registry goes gold? |
| 14:29 | aliguori | no |
| 14:30 | aliguori | at least, i don't think that's the current plan |
| 14:30 | aliguori | you'd have to ask rusty |
| 14:30 | aliguori | the store is pretty much there but there's still a lot of work to do to get the kernel to be able to talk to it and to get the drivers to actual use it |
| 14:31 | doremifa | things are changing too fast in xen |
| 14:32 | aliguori | :-) |
| 14:32 | aliguori | this has all been in the works for months |
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| 14:32 | aliguori | hopefully, stuff like this will be better communicated in the wiki in the future |
| 14:32 | aliguori | there wasn't that option when this all started though |
| 14:34 | doremifa | so i dont know if i shoud continue read the current code any more ;) |
| 14:34 | doremifa | since they might vanish very soon |
| 14:34 | aliguori | doremifa: very soon is months away |
| 14:35 | aliguori | understanding the current code certainly will help understanding the future code :-) |
| 14:35 | aliguori | especially understanding the ugliness of the control interfaces... |
| 14:35 | aliguori | that really has driven the store... |
| 14:36 | doremifa | yeah |
| 14:45 | doremifa | i see that sv was removed in unstable. so what replaces it? |
| 14:48 | aliguori | doremifa: I don't think sv ever had that much momentum behind it. I'm not aware of any plans to develop a replacement for it (although I cannot say for sure). |
| 14:56 | murble | i have a dead domain |
| 14:56 | murble | and that seems to have broken xend |
| 15:06 | murble | so i now have an unkilled about zombe domain :( |
| 15:06 | hollis | I don't think that's an uncommon problem to have with xend |
| 15:07 | knewt | murble: xm destroy doesn't work? |
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| 15:09 | murble | kwit doesn't. |
| 15:10 | aliguori | that's a very common problem.. the only way to get rid of those is to destroy the backend devices which xend won't do. |
| 15:12 | murble | aliguori: how can i do that? |
| 15:13 | murble | can i trick xend into doing it for me? |
| 15:14 | aliguori | murble: nope |
| 15:15 | aliguori | i'd write a little tool to do it but it's a bit risky |
| 15:15 | murble | is vbd-destroy somthing to do with it? |
| 15:15 | aliguori | you might be able to do a vbd-destroy but i doubt it |
| 15:23 | | * murble reboots server :( |
| 15:25 | aliguori | the zombies don't really cause any problems btw |
| 15:25 | aliguori | you don't waste that many resources |
| 15:26 | hollis | you mean aside from all the brains they consume |
| 15:26 | murble | aliguori: well i couldn't restart that domain. |
| 15:30 | aliguori | http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_543~98372,00.html |
| 15:30 | aliguori | pacifia specs were released today |
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| 17:03 | doremifa | aliguori: thanks. i am off to bed. it is too late now ;-) bye |
| 17:04 | aliguori | np |
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| 18:11 | chrish01 | anyone working on a gtk gui? |
| 18:12 | chrish01 | cause i started one on monday. i have some screenshots here. http://people.mosaix.net/chris/images/xenmanager/ |
| 18:12 | chrish01 | this is both my first python programming and pygtk programming, so who knows if you will like it =/ |
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| 21:08 | Vip- | dom0 doesn't boot. Is there a way for me to log what it does do? |
| 21:10 | tony | Vip-: define log |
| 21:11 | tony | serial console? |
| 21:18 | Vip- | I mean that it ends the boot with: |
| 21:18 | Vip- | Root-NFS: No NFS server available, giving up. |
| 21:19 | Vip- | VFS: Unable to mount root fs via NFS, trying floppy. |
| 21:19 | Vip- | VFS: Insert root floppy and press ENTER |
| 21:19 | Vip- | If I press enter it panics saying it can't boot (0,2) |
| 21:19 | Vip- | How can I capture all that? |
| 21:20 | Vip- | And all the drivers it did load. It looks like it never loads sata drivers. It finds the IDE CDROM, but not the sata HDD. |
| 21:21 | Vip- | Interesting thing is that if I take the .config and copy it to a plain 2.6.11 kernel tar, compile and install, I can boot from it. It's not perfect, but it does work. |
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| 22:21 | tony | is there a config file parameter to specify additional boot options when starting a domain? like 'selinux=0'. |
| 22:22 | tony | ah, 'extra', I'd missed it |
| 22:24 | mikegrb | +- |
| 22:25 | tony | mikegrb: ? |
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