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| 10:12 | <linux__alien:#uml> | hi is it possible to run UML in Ubuntu 7.10 ? i tried compiling the kernel for UML and then tried running it though it started i couldnt get the networking working. The tap interface didnt get created automatically and then i before starting UML created the tap interface using tunctl but still ping between the host and UML didnt succeed |
| 10:12 | <linux__alien:#uml> | can someone help me in this regard? |
| 10:16 | <linux__alien:#uml> | is anyone here ? |
| 10:16 | <linux__alien:#uml> | please? |
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| 10:26 | <linux__alien:#uml> | Hi Urgleflogue can you help me please in this regard? is it possible to use UML in Ubuntu 7.10? |
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| 10:48 | <jdike:#uml> | Hi guys |
| 10:49 | <linux__alien:#uml> | Hi jdike |
| 10:50 | <linux__alien:#uml> | jdike, i am struggling to make UML work in Ubuntu 7.10. i know for sure that i am missing something can you help me out. This is what i ve done. I ve downloaded the Vanilla kernel and compiled it for ARCH=um . The version is 2.6.24.2 and ve downloaded the Ubuntu Feisty File system and started UML instance by giving an ip address . Though the IP address gets set the ping between the host and the UML instance does not work |
| 10:51 | <linux__alien:#uml> | i ve also done tunctl and created a tap0 interface in the host |
| 10:52 | <linux__alien:#uml> | can you help me out ? i am using a laptop running Ubuntu 7.10 |
| 10:52 | <linux__alien:#uml> | as my host |
| 10:55 | <linux__alien:#uml> | jdike, is it possible to run UML in any distribution on the host ? |
| 10:58 | <jdike:#uml> | so in other words, you tried setting up the host tap device by hand |
| 10:58 | <jdike:#uml> | and you botched it? |
| 10:59 | <linux__alien:#uml> | yes i did it by hand :) |
| 10:59 | <jdike:#uml> | how about letting uml_net do it for you? |
| 11:00 | <linux__alien:#uml> | exactly it used to happen |
| 11:00 | <linux__alien:#uml> | automatically in my old fedora box |
| 11:00 | <linux__alien:#uml> | but its not happening here . Can you please help me out how to go about setting up this |
| 11:01 | <jdike:#uml> | see the first section of http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/network.html |
| 11:01 | <linux__alien:#uml> | you mean the installation of uml_utilities |
| 11:02 | <linux__alien:#uml> | i ve installed that also |
| 11:02 | <jdike:#uml> | what's the UML command line? |
| 11:03 | <linux__alien:#uml> | ya sure will give you that one sec |
| 11:04 | <linux__alien:#uml> | "/linux ubda=FedoraCore5-x86-root_fs mem=128M eth0=tuntap,,,10.1.1.5" |
| 11:06 | <jdike:#uml> | what does dmesg say when the interface is brought up? |
| 11:06 | <linux__alien:#uml> | it says permission denied |
| 11:06 | <linux__alien:#uml> | then executed it as root |
| 11:07 | <linux__alien:#uml> | then it does not say anything but the IP address does not get set so i did that manually in UML again and it gets set but the ping does not happen to tap0 |
| 11:07 | <jdike:#uml> | what *exactly* does it say? |
| 11:08 | <linux__alien:#uml> | ya sure will post it i just rebuilt UML again |
| 11:08 | <linux__alien:#uml> | let me run it and post the message exactly |
| 11:08 | <linux__alien:#uml> | i ve one question, The UML Utilities i downloaded and installed using synaptic does it depend on the kernel version by any chance? |
| 11:08 | <linux__alien:#uml> | i didnt compile the UML utilities |
| 11:09 | <jdike:#uml> | no |
| 11:09 | <linux__alien:#uml> | ok |
| 11:09 | <jdike:#uml> | however, since this is Debian-based, you need to be in the uml-users group |
| 11:09 | <jdike:#uml> | or uml-net - I forget what they call it |
| 11:10 | <linux__alien:#uml> | group in the sense ? |
| 11:10 | <linux__alien:#uml> | some mailing list ? |
| 11:11 | <jdike:#uml> | in the sense of /etc/group |
| 11:11 | <linux__alien:#uml> | oh sorry :) |
| 11:11 | <linux__alien:#uml> | just unzipped the file system . i am gonna boot UML |
| 11:11 | <linux__alien:#uml> | and will post the error right away |
| 11:15 | <linux__alien:#uml> | ifconfig eth0 10.1.1.5 |
| 11:15 | <linux__alien:#uml> | SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not permitted |
| 11:15 | <linux__alien:#uml> | this error i get inside UML |
| 11:15 | <linux__alien:#uml> | when i try to set the IP address |
| 11:15 | <linux__alien:#uml> | the cmd line that i gave for booting is this |
| 11:16 | <linux__alien:#uml> | ./linux ubda=/home/bj/Downloads/Ubuntu_FS/Ubuntu-FeistyFawn-i386-root_fs eth0=tuntap,,,10.1.1.5 |
| 11:16 | <jdike:#uml> | what does dmesg say? |
| 11:16 | <linux__alien:#uml> | shall i use paste bin ? |
| 11:16 | <linux__alien:#uml> | and paste it? |
| 11:17 | <jdike:#uml> | use pastebin |
| 11:17 | <linux__alien:#uml> | http://pastebin.com/m65a3d24a |
| 11:17 | <linux__alien:#uml> | its opened 6 virtual consoles after booting i dont know where they have set it to 6 |
| 11:19 | <jdike:#uml> | /etc/inittab |
| 11:19 | <linux__alien:#uml> | i checked that i couldnt find that :( |
| 11:19 | <jdike:#uml> | add 'con0=fd:0,fd:1 con=pts' to the command line if it bothers you |
| 11:19 | <linux__alien:#uml> | ok |
| 11:19 | <linux__alien:#uml> | thanks |
| 11:19 | <jdike:#uml> | The tap IP address and the UML eth IP address must be different |
| 11:20 | <jdike:#uml> | that should be fairly self-explanatory |
| 11:20 | <linux__alien:#uml> | i ve not set the tap ip address at all |
| 11:20 | <linux__alien:#uml> | i ve not done tunctl also |
| 11:21 | <linux__alien:#uml> | i just have 3 interfaces in the host |
| 11:21 | <linux__alien:#uml> | eth0,eth1,lo |
| 11:21 | <linux__alien:#uml> | eth0 does not have any ip adddress |
| 11:22 | <linux__alien:#uml> | eth1 has a 192.x.x.x.x address and lo 127.0.0.1 |
| 11:22 | <linux__alien:#uml> | thats all i ve in host |
| 11:23 | <linux__alien:#uml> | That error does not come up while booting |
| 11:23 | <linux__alien:#uml> | that error comes up after i do ifconfig eth0 10.1.1.5 manually in UML |
| 11:25 | <jdike:#uml> | eth0=tuntap,,,10.1.1.5 sets the tap IP address |
| 11:25 | <linux__alien:#uml> | when i give a different IP address in UML like this |
| 11:25 | <linux__alien:#uml> | ifconfig eth0 10.1.1.9 |
| 11:25 | <linux__alien:#uml> | SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not permitted |
| 11:25 | <linux__alien:#uml> | i get this |
| 11:25 | <linux__alien:#uml> | ok fine but this is a different IP address |
| 11:26 | <jdike:#uml> | what does dmesg say? |
| 11:26 | <linux__alien:#uml> | but in the host i dont see any new interface getting created also |
| 11:27 | <linux__alien:#uml> | let me paste it in pastebin again |
| 11:29 | <linux__alien:#uml> | http://pastebin.com/m58bf3f99 |
| 11:29 | <linux__alien:#uml> | now after it boots i try to set this IP address |
| 11:30 | <linux__alien:#uml> | to eth0 in UML |
| 11:30 | <linux__alien:#uml> | root@(none):~# ifconfig eth0 10.1.1.9 |
| 11:30 | <linux__alien:#uml> | SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not permitted |
| 11:30 | <linux__alien:#uml> | root@(none):~# |
| 11:30 | <linux__alien:#uml> | i get this |
| 11:30 | <jdike:#uml> | what does dmesg say after that? |
| 11:31 | <jdike:#uml> | it seems to have configured eth0 on boot OK |
| 11:32 | <linux__alien:#uml> | yes i ve pasted in pastebin one sec let me give you the link |
| 11:32 | <linux__alien:#uml> | http://pastebin.com/m7530114a |
| 11:32 | <linux__alien:#uml> | i executed dmesg after it and thats what i got |
| 11:32 | <linux__alien:#uml> | is this because of the Ubuntu Filesystem used for UML ? |
| 11:35 | <jdike:#uml> | did you notice "helper_child - execvp of 'uml_net' failed - errno = 13" |
| 11:35 | <linux__alien:#uml> | yes didnt understand it |
| 11:36 | <linux__alien:#uml> | whats that actually |
| 11:36 | <linux__alien:#uml> | :) |
| 11:36 | <jdike:#uml> | perror 13 |
| 11:36 | <jdike:#uml> | OS error code 13: Permission denied |
| 11:36 | <jdike:#uml> | remember what I said about being in the uml-net group? |
| 11:37 | <linux__alien:#uml> | so should i run UML as root ? |
| 11:37 | <linux__alien:#uml> | oh sorry i mean |
| 11:37 | <jdike:#uml> | no |
| 11:37 | <linux__alien:#uml> | i am logging into UML as root |
| 11:37 | <linux__alien:#uml> | right ? so i should have all permissions right? |
| 11:39 | <jdike:#uml> | no |
| 11:39 | <jdike:#uml> | remember what I said about being in the uml-net group? |
| 11:39 | <linux__alien:#uml> | yes you told me |
| 11:39 | <linux__alien:#uml> | how do i add myself |
| 11:39 | <linux__alien:#uml> | what changes i ve to make |
| 11:42 | <linux__alien:#uml> | is it because i am running an Ubuntu File system for UML ? |
| 11:44 | <jdike:#uml> | look at the file |
| 11:44 | <jdike:#uml> | it should be pretty obvious what to do |
| 11:44 | <linux__alien:#uml> | which file ? |
| 11:46 | <jdike:#uml> | /etc/group? |
| 11:47 | <linux__alien:#uml> | ok i ve opened it and there i see root but the uml-net is not found so i ll have to add it |
| 11:47 | <linux__alien:#uml> | right |
| 11:47 | <linux__alien:#uml> | ? |
| 11:47 | <jdike:#uml> | no |
| 11:48 | <jdike:#uml> | ls -l /usr/bin/uml_net |
| 11:50 | <linux__alien:#uml> | ls -l /usr/bin/uml_net |
| 11:50 | <linux__alien:#uml> | ls: /usr/bin/uml_net: No such file or directory |
| 11:50 | <jdike:#uml> | figure out where it is, and ls -l it |
| 11:53 | <linux__alien:#uml> | it does not exist |
| 11:53 | <linux__alien:#uml> | did a find of it |
| 11:54 | <jdike:#uml> | you wouldn't have got permission denied if it didn't exist |
| 11:54 | <jdike:#uml> | look in /var/lib/uml |
| 11:54 | <linux__alien:#uml> | var/lib only exists there is no uml inside it |
| 11:55 | <linux__alien:#uml> | :( |
| 11:56 | <jdike:#uml> | strings /usr/bin/uml | grep uml_net |
| 11:57 | <linux__alien:#uml> | you want me to grep for uml_net |
| 11:57 | <linux__alien:#uml> | ? |
| 11:57 | <linux__alien:#uml> | as string |
| 11:57 | <linux__alien:#uml> | ? |
| 11:57 | <jdike:#uml> | that's what that command seems to do |
| 11:57 | <jdike:#uml> | you are on the host, right? |
| 11:57 | <linux__alien:#uml> | no |
| 11:57 | <linux__alien:#uml> | :( |
| 11:57 | <linux__alien:#uml> | you wanted me to do this in the host ? |
| 11:57 | <linux__alien:#uml> | i am really sorry |
| 11:58 | <linux__alien:#uml> | i was searching for this in the UML |
| 11:58 | <jdike:#uml> | how is something inside UML supposed to set up the host? |
| 11:58 | <linux__alien:#uml> | no since the error was in UML i thought i had to change something in UML just because i was using an Ubuntu File system |
| 11:59 | <linux__alien:#uml> | i am really sorry |
| 12:00 | <linux__alien:#uml> | i didnt get any result |
| 12:00 | <linux__alien:#uml> | in /usr/bin/uml i ve some files |
| 12:00 | <linux__alien:#uml> | uml |
| 12:00 | <linux__alien:#uml> | uml_mconsole |
| 12:00 | <linux__alien:#uml> | i dont have anything called uml |
| 12:00 | <jdike:#uml> | what's in /var/lib/uml? |
| 12:01 | <linux__alien:#uml> | there is no uml inside /var/lib |
| 12:01 | <jdike:#uml> | well, find uml_net |
| 12:01 | <linux__alien:#uml> | ok |
| 12:01 | <jdike:#uml> | also look at /etc/group |
| 12:01 | <jdike:#uml> | do that first |
| 12:03 | <linux__alien:#uml> | found that file |
| 12:04 | <linux__alien:#uml> | its in |
| 12:04 | <linux__alien:#uml> | /usr/lib/uml |
| 12:04 | <linux__alien:#uml> | its a binary |
| 12:04 | <linux__alien:#uml> | i belive |
| 12:04 | <jdike:#uml> | what are its ownerships? |
| 12:05 | <linux__alien:#uml> | i can open it only as sudo user |
| 12:05 | <linux__alien:#uml> | and not normal user |
| 12:05 | <linux__alien:#uml> | ls -l uml_net |
| 12:05 | <linux__alien:#uml> | -rwsr-x--- 1 root uml-net 21040 2007-09-12 19:50 uml_net |
| 12:06 | <jdike:#uml> | add yourself to the uml_net group then |
| 12:07 | <linux__alien:#uml> | you want me to change the permissions of that file so that i can also have all permissions |
| 12:07 | <linux__alien:#uml> | ok i got it |
| 12:07 | <linux__alien:#uml> | i got what you said |
| 12:08 | <linux__alien:#uml> | sudo adduser balaji uml_net |
| 12:08 | <linux__alien:#uml> | adduser: The group `uml_net' does not exist. |
| 12:08 | <linux__alien:#uml> | ok done |
| 12:08 | <linux__alien:#uml> | its a hyphen |
| 12:08 | <linux__alien:#uml> | got it |
| 12:09 | <linux__alien:#uml> | now let me try again |
| 12:09 | <jdike:#uml> | try it |
| 12:09 | <jdike:#uml> | I'm not sure about those permissions |
| 12:10 | <jdike:#uml> | yeah |
| 12:10 | <jdike:#uml> | you also need chmod g+s /usr/bin/uml_net |
| 12:10 | <linux__alien:#uml> | it does not work |
| 12:10 | <jdike:#uml> | err, /usr/lib/uml/uml_net |
| 12:10 | <linux__alien:#uml> | oh ok will modify the permissions |
| 12:10 | <jdike:#uml> | they messed up the permissions on it |
| 12:11 | <linux__alien:#uml> | :) |
| 12:12 | <linux__alien:#uml> | no still does not work |
| 12:12 | <linux__alien:#uml> | still i get operation not permitted |
| 12:12 | <jdike:#uml> | run id on the host |
| 12:13 | <linux__alien:#uml> | id ? |
| 12:13 | <linux__alien:#uml> | just id is it? |
| 12:14 | <linux__alien:#uml> | ok |
| 12:14 | <linux__alien:#uml> | paste it here ? |
| 12:14 | <linux__alien:#uml> | id |
| 12:14 | <linux__alien:#uml> | uid=1000(balaji) gid=1000(balaji) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(scanner),108(lpadmin),110(admin),115(netdev),117(powerdev),1000(balaji) |
| 12:14 | <linux__alien:#uml> | i dont see uml-net :o |
| 12:14 | <linux__alien:#uml> | i added to it |
| 12:16 | <jdike:#uml> | log out and log in again |
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| 12:19 | <linux__alien:#uml> | log out of my host and log in back ? |
| 12:20 | <linux__alien:#uml> | ok |
| 12:20 | <linux__alien:#uml> | will do it |
| 12:20 | <linux__alien:#uml> | brb |
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| 12:21 | <linux__alien:#uml> | ya am back |
| 12:21 | <linux__alien:#uml> | let me try now |
| 12:22 | <linux__alien:#uml> | now i see i am added to uml-net |
| 12:22 | <linux__alien:#uml> | let me try now |
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| 12:23 | <linux__alien:#uml> | Wow !!! now i see an interface tap0 created in my host |
| 12:23 | <linux__alien:#uml> | so for eth0 i will have to set an IP address |
| 12:23 | <linux__alien:#uml> | let me try doing that |
| 12:23 | <linux__alien:#uml> | yes great ping works |
| 12:24 | <linux__alien:#uml> | thanks a lot jdike and i would be writing an article on how to set up UML on Ubuntu specifically so that people could benefit |
| 12:24 | <linux__alien:#uml> | i already wrote one for Fedora :) |
| 12:24 | <linux__alien:#uml> | thanks a lot |
| 12:24 | <linux__alien:#uml> | have got one query |
| 12:25 | <linux__alien:#uml> | i get to see 6 consoles when i launch UML i remember running UML using terminal in Ubuntu i.e an other gnome terminal would be opened automatically when i launch UML how do i do that |
| 12:26 | <linux__alien:#uml> | in /etc/inittab |
| 12:26 | <linux__alien:#uml> | i see this |
| 12:26 | <linux__alien:#uml> | # We launch just one console for UML: |
| 12:26 | <linux__alien:#uml> | c0:1235:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty0 linux |
| 12:26 | <linux__alien:#uml> | this is whats there in UML |
| 12:33 | <jdike:#uml> | run linux --help and look at what it says for xterm= |
| 12:35 | <linux__alien:#uml> | yes it works but i get 6 terminals i really dont know |
| 12:35 | <linux__alien:#uml> | why |
| 12:35 | <linux__alien:#uml> | i get 6 gnome terminals |
| 12:35 | <linux__alien:#uml> | :( |
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| 12:36 | <linux__alien:#uml> | i ve commented out the line in /etc/inittab |
| 12:36 | <linux__alien:#uml> | too |
| 12:37 | <jdike:#uml> | kill -1 1 inside UML |
| 12:39 | <linux__alien:#uml> | nothing happens |
| 12:39 | <linux__alien:#uml> | all 6 remain |
| 12:39 | <linux__alien:#uml> | still |
| 12:39 | <jdike:#uml> | see if they all show up after a reboot |
| 12:39 | <linux__alien:#uml> | you want me to reboot UML again is it ? |
| 12:39 | <linux__alien:#uml> | ok will do it |
| 12:42 | <linux__alien:#uml> | i get this error too |
| 12:42 | <linux__alien:#uml> | Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console |
| 12:42 | <linux__alien:#uml> | Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console |
| 12:42 | <linux__alien:#uml> | Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console |
| 12:42 | <linux__alien:#uml> | 2 more times i get this |
| 12:42 | <linux__alien:#uml> | :) |
| 12:42 | <linux__alien:#uml> | total of 5 times while it boots |
| 12:42 | <linux__alien:#uml> | but i still get 6 terminals |
| 12:44 | <jdike:#uml> | no references to tty1, tty2, etc in /etc/inittab? |
| 12:44 | <linux__alien:#uml> | no |
| 12:45 | <linux__alien:#uml> | my inittab does not contain any uncommented lines at all |
| 12:47 | <jdike:#uml> | are there login prompts in the terminals? |
| 12:47 | <linux__alien:#uml> | yes |
| 12:47 | <linux__alien:#uml> | 6 terminals with login prompts |
| 12:47 | <linux__alien:#uml> | i really have no clue from where he is picking it :) |
| 12:48 | <jdike:#uml> | paste your /etc/inittab to pastebin |
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| 12:50 | <linux__alien:#uml> | sure |
| 12:51 | <linux__alien:#uml> | http://pastebin.com/m5da5e1a7 |
| 12:52 | <jdike:#uml> | that c0 line should be uncommented |
| 12:53 | <linux__alien:#uml> | it was uncommented first |
| 12:53 | <linux__alien:#uml> | but the same problem was there and hence i commented it out |
| 12:54 | <jdike:#uml> | go back to the original and reboot |
| 12:54 | <linux__alien:#uml> | did that |
| 12:54 | <linux__alien:#uml> | same result |
| 12:54 | <linux__alien:#uml> | just did that |
| 12:54 | <linux__alien:#uml> | too |
| 12:54 | <linux__alien:#uml> | cat /etc/inittab |
| 12:54 | <linux__alien:#uml> | # We launch just one console for UML: |
| 12:54 | <linux__alien:#uml> | c0:1235:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty0 linux |
| 12:54 | <linux__alien:#uml> | i still get 6 windows |
| 12:54 | <jdike:#uml> | ps uax | grep getty |
| 12:54 | <jdike:#uml> | says what? |
| 12:55 | <linux__alien:#uml> | inside UML ? |
| 12:55 | <jdike:#uml> | yup |
| 12:56 | <linux__alien:#uml> | http://pastebin.com/m41915022 |
| 12:57 | <jdike:#uml> | grep getty /etc/* |
| 12:57 | <jdike:#uml> | says what? |
| 12:57 | <linux__alien:#uml> | grep getty /etc/* |
| 12:57 | <linux__alien:#uml> | /etc/inittab:c0:1235:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty0 linux |
| 12:58 | <jdike:#uml> | ps uax | grep init |
| 12:58 | <jdike:#uml> | says what? |
| 12:58 | <linux__alien:#uml> | ps uax | grep init |
| 12:58 | <linux__alien:#uml> | root 1 0.0 6.6 3044 2016 ? Ss 17:55 0:00 /sbin/init |
| 12:58 | <linux__alien:#uml> | root 1808 0.0 1.6 1716 508 tty5 R+ 17:58 0:00 grep init |
| 12:58 | <jdike:#uml> | what I'm thinking is your init is reading something other than /etc/inittab |
| 12:59 | <linux__alien:#uml> | :) |
| 12:59 | <jdike:#uml> | strings etc /sbin/init |
| 12:59 | <linux__alien:#uml> | in the host ? |
| 12:59 | <jdike:#uml> | all of this is inside UML |
| 12:59 | <linux__alien:#uml> | ok |
| 12:59 | <linux__alien:#uml> | fine |
| 12:59 | <linux__alien:#uml> | strings is not available in UML |
| 12:59 | <linux__alien:#uml> | i ll just grep for it |
| 12:59 | <linux__alien:#uml> | inside UML |
| 13:02 | <linux__alien:#uml> | no |
| 13:02 | <linux__alien:#uml> | there is no etc inside /sbin/init |
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| 13:10 | <linux__alien:#uml> | ok jdike thanks a lot for your help today learnt many things in UML. I am very tired now. Its night time here :) so i might be in a position to understand what you say from now on. I ll be back here tomorrow for more queries . I ll write a small HowTo on how to install this in Ubuntu |
| 13:10 | <linux__alien:#uml> | Thanks a lot |
| 13:10 | <linux__alien:#uml> | Have a good day jdike |
| 13:12 | <linux__alien:#uml> | instead of telling i might not be in a position to understand i ve told that i might be :) Thats how clear my brain is now :) |
| 13:12 | <linux__alien:#uml> | thanks once again for your help jdike |
| 13:12 | <linux__alien:#uml> | cya |
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