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| 11:18 | <linux__alien:#uml> | hi i am using Ubuntu 7.10 and want to know whether a file system exists for Ubuntu in UML. I am aware of the fact that i could use Fedora but i thought the Ubuntu file system would be better. is it available / |
| 11:18 | <linux__alien:#uml> | ? |
| 11:22 | <linux__alien:#uml> | can someone help me please? |
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| 19:32 | <silverblade:#uml> | anyone know the package i need on Gentoo for UML support? (as host) |
| 19:35 | <caker:#uml> | UML doesn't require host support, technically |
| 19:35 | <silverblade:#uml> | ok (the technology is new to me!) - what would i need? |
| 19:36 | <caker:#uml> | a UML kernel and a filesystem |
| 19:36 | <silverblade:#uml> | uml kernel = the one that runs as the "guest"? (like how a linode has its kernel) |
| 19:37 | <caker:#uml> | yup |
| 19:37 | <caker:#uml> | http://www.linode.com/~caker/uml/kernels/2.6.23.12-linode41 <-- |
| 19:38 | <silverblade:#uml> | argh that link tried to open in Kate |
| 19:38 | <silverblade:#uml> | ok so howd i go about starting one up? |
| 19:38 | <silverblade:#uml> | is there some sort of program i need? |
| 19:39 | <caker:#uml> | that *is* the program |
| 19:39 | <silverblade:#uml> | or a magic wand? |
| 19:39 | <silverblade:#uml> | ...oh! lol |
| 19:39 | <caker:#uml> | ./2.6.23.12-linode41 --help |
| 19:39 | <caker:#uml> | lotsa options |
| 19:39 | * | silverblade:#uml wget's |
| 19:39 | <caker:#uml> | run it w/o any arguments and see what happens :) |
| 19:40 | <silverblade:#uml> | so its kinda like a kernel thats actually a program. whee, im glad i dont take drugs otherwise i would be totally tripping out on that. |
| 19:41 | <caker:#uml> | hah |
| 19:41 | <caker:#uml> | yes. Jeff Dike ported the Linux kernel to Linux's syscall interface, as opposed to running on hardware |
| 19:42 | <silverblade:#uml> | "what shall i do today? I KNOW! I'll port Linux to Linux!" |
| 19:42 | <caker:#uml> | indeed |
| 19:42 | <silverblade:#uml> | hmm, can you specify an actual real physical partition? i guess so, since its just another file, right? |
| 19:43 | <caker:#uml> | yup |
| 19:43 | <caker:#uml> | Linode does that with LVM volumes |
| 19:43 | <silverblade:#uml> | ahh lvm |
| 19:43 | <caker:#uml> | but it could be a physical drive partition, or an entire device .. whatever |
| 19:43 | <caker:#uml> | or a file.. |
| 19:44 | <silverblade:#uml> | i regret not setting up lvm on this machine. i used to use it but got freaked out when i found out i could shrink a volume below the amount of data on the fs |
| 19:44 | <caker:#uml> | heh |
| 19:44 | <caker:#uml> | "found out" |
| 19:44 | <silverblade:#uml> | yes |
| 19:44 | <silverblade:#uml> | "OOH what happens if i do THIS" |
| 19:44 | <silverblade:#uml> | that kinda thing |
| 19:45 | <silverblade:#uml> | the same kind of tinkering that resulted in me destroying my first PC's hard drive using DOS doublespace |
| 19:45 | <silverblade:#uml> | "hmm, that created a big hidden file... what happens if i delete it?" |
| 19:52 | <silverblade:#uml> | ok so how would i go about building one of these kernels |
| 19:52 | <silverblade:#uml> | actually that may be a silly question - gentoo has its own "sources"... |
| 19:56 | <caker:#uml> | silverblade: kernel.org, grab latest. untar, cd into dir: make defconfig ARCH=um; make ARCH=um |
| 19:56 | <caker:#uml> | done |
| 19:56 | <silverblade:#uml> | ah, neat |
| 19:56 | <silverblade:#uml> | i can of course tweak it to my needs? ;) not that there much point these days lol |
| 19:56 | <silverblade:#uml> | (ie make menuconfig) |
| 19:59 | <caker:#uml> | yes .. just make sure to always append ARCH=um to any make commands |
| 19:59 | <caker:#uml> | otherwise your tree will become un-uml-buildable unless you do a "make mrproper" (which will blow away your .config) |
| 20:01 | <silverblade:#uml> | yeah |
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