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| 08:44 | <rindolf:#uml> | Hi all! |
| 08:45 | <rindolf:#uml> | Using the Ubuntu Feisty root_fs - how can I get the xterms to display the VM's virtual consoles? |
| 08:45 | <rindolf:#uml> | I've tried editing the /etc/inittab, but it still doesn't work. |
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| 10:51 | <jdike:#uml> | Hi guys |
| 10:51 | <caker:#uml> | good morning |
| 10:51 | <caker:#uml> | how'd your review go? |
| 10:52 | <jdike:#uml> | dunno yet |
| 10:52 | <jdike:#uml> | it's an extended process |
| 10:52 | <jdike:#uml> | the whole company does it at the same time |
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| 10:58 | <kokoko1:#uml> | hello |
| 10:59 | <kokoko1:#uml> | audit_log_user_command(): Connection refused |
| 11:00 | <kokoko1:#uml> | after upgraded uml from fedora 7 to Fedora 8 running 'sudo' giving this |
| 11:00 | <kokoko1:#uml> | look like a bug ---> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=401201 |
| 11:01 | <kokoko1:#uml> | however im not getting it on any of xen vms which also gone through upgrade process. |
| 11:01 | <dgraves:#uml> | jdike, xen kernel debugging sucks. :( |
| 11:02 | <kokoko1:#uml> | dgraves, xen sucks big time |
| 11:02 | <dgraves:#uml> | kokoko1, its great for running stuff. :) |
| 11:02 | <kokoko1:#uml> | but boss is crazy for it |
| 11:02 | <dgraves:#uml> | but it sucks compared to UML for debugging. |
| 11:03 | <dgraves:#uml> | its faster than uml. and easier to set a non-supported arch. |
| 11:03 | <dgraves:#uml> | liek rhel4. |
| 11:03 | <dgraves:#uml> | but its got issues. |
| 11:03 | <kokoko1:#uml> | atm our score is xen= 4 hosts and uml = 3 hosts :-s |
| 11:04 | <kokoko1:#uml> | dgraves, we use fedora's kernel-xen :-s |
| 11:05 | <kokoko1:#uml> | sheesh its #uml |
| 11:12 | <jdike:#uml> | looks like a sudo bug |
| 11:12 | <jdike:#uml> | the guy above you was saying it's not fixed yet |
| 11:13 | <kokoko1:#uml> | true didnt get it on any other fedora's 5,6,7 |
| 11:13 | <kokoko1:#uml> | and we r not running auditd |
| 11:14 | <kokoko1:#uml> | sudo works but with above error. |
| 11:15 | <kokoko1:#uml> | dgraves, http://f8-repo.k2.awpdc.com configring local F8 repo on uml |
| 11:15 | * | jdike:#uml pulls 2.6.24 |
| 11:15 | <jdike:#uml> | lets see what that looks like |
| 11:15 | <jdike:#uml> | hopefully, it looks a lot like rc8 |
| 11:16 | <kokoko1:#uml> | heh its not slashdotted? |
| 11:16 | <kokoko1:#uml> | imean the .24 |
| 11:17 | <jdike:#uml> | kernel.org is load-balanced and replicated |
| 11:17 | <jdike:#uml> | they've had experience with the whole world trying to get the latest kernel |
| 11:20 | <kokoko1:#uml> | hmm |
| 11:20 | <kokoko1:#uml> | its v. hard to type + work with one hand :( |
| 11:21 | <jdike:#uml> | Kernel 2.6.24 on an i686 |
| 11:21 | <jdike:#uml> | looks good to me |
| 11:21 | <jdike:#uml> | ship it! |
| 11:22 | * | kokoko1:#uml got fractured his left shoulder in an accident. |
| 11:22 | <kokoko1:#uml> | heh ship it? |
| 11:22 | <jdike:#uml> | how'd you do that? |
| 11:24 | <kokoko1:#uml> | well while i was crossing a one way road motorcycle coming from wrong side hit me :( |
| 11:24 | <jdike:#uml> | uoch |
| 11:24 | <jdike:#uml> | ouch |
| 11:24 | <kokoko1:#uml> | and asshole run away from scene |
| 11:25 | <kokoko1:#uml> | i have to carry this sling for another 4 weeks |
| 11:27 | <kokoko1:#uml> | Jeff Dike has been mentioned 3 times in .24 changelog? |
| 11:28 | <jdike:#uml> | as in, three patches? |
| 11:29 | <kokoko1:#uml> | yes |
| 11:29 | <jdike:#uml> | there's a hell of a lot more than that from me |
| 11:29 | <jdike:#uml> | there's >11K lines of code changes from me |
| 11:30 | <kokoko1:#uml> | hell of fixing for .24 |
| 11:31 | <jdike:#uml> | A good chunk of it was tt mode removal |
| 11:31 | <kokoko1:#uml> | finally :) |
| 11:32 | <kokoko1:#uml> | how'd your review go? what was that? |
| 11:33 | <jdike:#uml> | from http://lwn.net/Articles/263717/ |
| 11:33 | <jdike:#uml> | Jeff Dike 11103 1.4% |
| 11:33 | <jdike:#uml> | (name lines-changed percent-of-total) |
| 11:35 | <caker:#uml> | 1.4% of the total LOC changed from .23 to .24? |
| 11:36 | <jdike:#uml> | no, I did 1.4% of the changes in .24 |
| 11:36 | <caker:#uml> | right -- impressive :) |
| 11:37 | <kokoko1:#uml> | Jeff Dike 227 0.8% |
| 11:37 | <kokoko1:#uml> | Top contributors in 2007 |
| 11:39 | <kokoko1:#uml> | jeff ur company got the 4th place |
| 11:39 | <kokoko1:#uml> | redhat rules :) |
| 11:39 | <kokoko1:#uml> | opps 6th |
| 11:39 | <jdike:#uml> | yup |
| 11:40 | <jdike:#uml> | and 1st place in LOC in .24 |
| 11:40 | <jdike:#uml> | well, 4th among identifiable companies |
| 11:41 | <kokoko1:#uml> | yes |
| 11:42 | <kokoko1:#uml> | 1,4% then you should ship it :) |
| 11:42 | <kokoko1:#uml> | great work |
| 11:50 | <kokoko1:#uml> | how about cup of tea :) |
| 11:52 | <jdike:#uml> | no time |
| 11:53 | <jdike:#uml> | gotta get coding :-) |
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| 12:02 | <jdike:#uml> | BTW |
| 12:02 | <jdike:#uml> | wget -O - -q http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.24 | grep 'Signed-off-by: Jeff Dike <jdike@linux.intel.com>' | wc -l |
| 12:02 | <jdike:#uml> | 80 |
| 12:02 | <jdike:#uml> | dunno what changelog you were looking at |
| 12:05 | <kokoko1:#uml> | wow |
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| 12:10 | <jdike:#uml> | mmm, tea |
| 12:10 | * | jdike:#uml is tired from all those changesets |
| 12:11 | <kokoko1:#uml> | heheh |
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| 16:26 | <ds2:#uml> | are there UML filesystem images available with a full install of a recent distro (instead of the min. installed images)? |
| 16:56 | <jdike:#uml> | a full install would be pretty big |
| 16:56 | <jdike:#uml> | which is why the images tend to be minimal (but upgradeable) |
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| 17:09 | <ds2:#uml> | yes, I know it will be big. I can accept that |
| 17:09 | <ds2:#uml> | waiting 24hours for a dl is easier to dealing with the crappy package managers that distros like to use |
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| 17:54 | <fo0bar:#uml> | jdike: how the heck did you manage to change 11k lines? :) |
| 17:55 | <jdike:#uml> | quilt! |
| 17:55 | <jdike:#uml> | also there were a relatively small number of large patches in there |
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| 18:47 | <Magotari:#uml> | Is there anything interesting that I missed in the two weeks of my absence? I could dig through the logs, but it may be easier to ask... |
| 18:47 | <Magotari:#uml> | I saw SKAS4 patches, so that is one thing. But anything else? |
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| 20:21 | <Magotari:#uml> | I'm going to publish my code for the uml console in two weeks. It might be broken, but as I might discard the project due to hopelessness it beats not releasing anything. |
| 20:22 | <Magotari:#uml> | It was going to be mostly a practice with tsearch, and family, and they are highly inadequate for the job. |
| 20:22 | <Magotari:#uml> | At least someone might take over and do something with the mess. |
| 20:26 | <jdike:#uml> | skas4 is the main news |
| 20:30 | <Magotari:#uml> | Right. Thanks. |
| 20:31 | <jdike:#uml> | How'd you like Hawaii? |
| 20:32 | <Magotari:#uml> | Best time of my life, really. |
| 20:32 | <Magotari:#uml> | Except the jet lag upon returning. |
| 20:32 | <Magotari:#uml> | Feels great to be married. |
| 20:33 | <Magotari:#uml> | Oh yes, and I have a huge sushi addiction. |
| 20:33 | <jdike:#uml> | hehe |
| 20:33 | <jdike:#uml> | wasabi that makes you cry |
| 20:33 | <jdike:#uml> | that's life |
| 20:33 | <Magotari:#uml> | I could talk for literaly hours, really. |
| 20:33 | <Magotari:#uml> | Yeah, the wasabi... |
| 20:33 | <jdike:#uml> | how did you manage to get there a day late? |
| 20:33 | <Magotari:#uml> | Simple. |
| 20:34 | <Magotari:#uml> | I arrived at denver fine. |
| 20:34 | <Magotari:#uml> | No problem at customs, immigration... |
| 20:34 | <Magotari:#uml> | I checked in my luggage again... |
| 20:34 | <Magotari:#uml> | And the next person told me that the flight I want does not exist. |
| 20:34 | <Magotari:#uml> | Ouch. |
| 20:35 | <jdike:#uml> | interesting |
| 20:35 | <Magotari:#uml> | I rebooked, and arrived a day late. |
| 20:35 | <jdike:#uml> | not cancelled? |
| 20:35 | <Magotari:#uml> | Thanks a lot, LOT. |
| 20:35 | <jdike:#uml> | just never existed? |
| 20:35 | <Magotari:#uml> | Yes. Never existed. |
| 20:35 | <jdike:#uml> | Bizarre |
| 20:35 | <Magotari:#uml> | Or rather, not in the recent memory. |
| 20:35 | <jdike:#uml> | how did you book the trip? |
| 20:35 | <Magotari:#uml> | I got the ticket in Poland. What else to expect? Shoddy work. |
| 20:36 | <Magotari:#uml> | I got it in a nice LOT office, the official place. |
| 20:36 | <jdike:#uml> | You could yell at them, but I don't suppose they would care |
| 20:36 | <Magotari:#uml> | Probably not... |
| 20:37 | <Magotari:#uml> | Anyway, I got there and back safely. |
| 20:37 | <jdike:#uml> | and O'Hare was no problem? |
| 20:37 | <Magotari:#uml> | Except that one time where I spent a minute looking at a funny wiggly bug... And suddenly people started yelling that I should stay away from it because it is dangerous... No problems. |
| 20:38 | <jdike:#uml> | hehe |
| 20:38 | <Magotari:#uml> | Not at all. I had 8 hours in Chicago. |
| 20:38 | <jdike:#uml> | yeah, that's a pretty safe connection |
| 20:38 | <Magotari:#uml> | Enough time. Loved the passage between concourses B and C. |
| 20:38 | <jdike:#uml> | the underground one? |
| 20:38 | <jdike:#uml> | with the funky lights? |
| 20:38 | <Magotari:#uml> | Yeah, with the lights and plinky sounds. |
| 20:39 | <ds2:#uml> | you must have taken United |
| 20:39 | <jdike:#uml> | that's cute |
| 20:39 | <Magotari:#uml> | I'm a sucker for a good light show. |
| 20:39 | <Magotari:#uml> | ds2: Yes, and I hope never have to do it again. |
| 20:39 | <ds2:#uml> | heh |
| 20:39 | <Magotari:#uml> | Worst airline I rode on. |
| 20:39 | <ds2:#uml> | B&C are all United. makes for very nice domestic flight changes... all the other airlines at Ohare are scattered |
| 20:40 | <Magotari:#uml> | Lufthansa fed me on an 80 minute flight, United did not on a twice as long one... |
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| 20:40 | <ds2:#uml> | don't think any US carriers feed people |
| 20:40 | <Magotari:#uml> | Or wanted money for it on the 5 hour long one. Or fed poorly on the 8 hour one. |
| 20:40 | <jdike:#uml> | anything resembling cross-country, they do |
| 20:40 | <ds2:#uml> | a fed passenger might be strong enough to do damage ;) |
| 20:41 | <jdike:#uml> | maybe not well, but they do distribute things claimed to be "food" |
| 20:42 | <Magotari:#uml> | If not for my wife giving me a *huge* bag of carrots, I would have starved to death only to wake up a demigod because of an integer underflow in person->hunger... |
| 20:43 | <ds2:#uml> | aren't carrots considered a dangerous weapon? |
| 20:43 | <jdike:#uml> | pointy sticks |
| 20:43 | <ds2:#uml> | you can stab someone with it and there might be enough liquids to exceed the threshold for liquid! |
| 20:43 | <Magotari:#uml> | Actually I'm quite sure there was, but they were in a clear plastic bag, so no worries. :) |
| 20:44 | <Magotari:#uml> | I hated denver with a passion. I'm phobic about injections and blood tests. They had a blood drive... |
| 20:44 | <ds2:#uml> | doesn't denver require you to take a tram between the terminals? |
| 20:44 | <Magotari:#uml> | Nothing was marked right, collect calls would not work and the bill changers returned every 1$ bill I threw at them. |
| 20:44 | <jdike:#uml> | Denver's too small for that |
| 20:45 | <Magotari:#uml> | Oh yes, it has a very neat train. |
| 20:45 | <jdike:#uml> | does it? |
| 20:45 | <Magotari:#uml> | It took me out of secured area to public. Security dance again. |
| 20:45 | <jdike:#uml> | I only remember the one terminal |
| 20:45 | <Magotari:#uml> | Yes, there is a terminal, true. |
| 20:45 | <Magotari:#uml> | But that is a lie. |
| 20:45 | <Magotari:#uml> | Should be three. |
| 20:45 | <Magotari:#uml> | THey call them 'concourses'. |
| 20:45 | <Magotari:#uml> | Or something like that. |
| 20:46 | <Magotari:#uml> | Except that terminals must have security between them, concourses don't. </speculation> |
| 20:46 | <Magotari:#uml> | Oh yes, and international lands outside the terminal altogether too. |
| 20:49 | <Magotari:#uml> | San Francisco terminal I was in was bad, maybe others are better. (I had 7.) Chicago was great. San Francisco was a great place to spend the night in, after the Denver disaster. |
| 20:50 | <jdike:#uml> | you're now an expert on US airports |
| 20:51 | <jdike:#uml> | the one parameter I care about is power, and I can't keep track of which airports have accessible power outlets and which don't |
| 20:51 | <Magotari:#uml> | I took 1050 pictures on my trip. Had fun. Probably gonna ditch programming after I get to Canada. Not sustainable as a source of income for a day job, as far as I see. Gonna try photographer and clerk at a photo store. Open Source done as a hobby by night. |
| 20:51 | <Magotari:#uml> | I think Denver had power. |
| 20:52 | <jdike:#uml> | you're moving to .ca? |
| 20:52 | <Magotari:#uml> | I'm sure that Los Angeles had it. |
| 20:52 | <Magotari:#uml> | Yeah. ASAP too. |
| 20:52 | <Magotari:#uml> | That is where my love is. |
| 20:52 | <jdike:#uml> | Ah |
| 20:52 | <Magotari:#uml> | Erm, wife. |
| 20:52 | <jdike:#uml> | where is she? |
| 20:52 | <Magotari:#uml> | B.C. |
| 20:52 | <jdike:#uml> | Vancouver? |
| 20:53 | <Magotari:#uml> | Back to 5000 miles apart... Just a year longer... Just a year... |
| 20:53 | <Magotari:#uml> | Not yet, but that is where we will live, yes. |
| 20:53 | <jdike:#uml> | where is she now? |
| 20:53 | <Magotari:#uml> | If it works out, that is. With immigration. |
| 20:53 | <Magotari:#uml> | Vernon, in the Okanagan region. |
| 20:53 | * | jdike:#uml googles |
| 20:54 | <jdike:#uml> | I'm somewhat familiar with BC, but that's not ringing bells |
| 20:55 | <jdike:#uml> | Aha |
| 20:55 | <jdike:#uml> | between Kamloops and Revelstoke |
| 20:55 | <jdike:#uml> | sorta |
| 20:55 | <Magotari:#uml> | Yeah. |
| 20:55 | <Magotari:#uml> | That rings a bell. |
| 20:57 | <Magotari:#uml> | The problem is, this is going to be a hard marriage for people in Poland to process. So immigration might fail because they suspect it ain't real. |
| 20:57 | <Magotari:#uml> | We have evidence, lots of it. We have papers, logs, supporting letters from other people. |
| 20:59 | <Magotari:#uml> | But... They still might not. |
| 21:00 | <jdike:#uml> | if it's like US immigration, evidence of time spent together is good |
| 21:01 | <jdike:#uml> | definitely hang on to the paper trail of your trip |
| 21:01 | <Magotari:#uml> | We have four years of soft evidence and two years of really hard evidence. Except it is not really time together, you see. |
| 21:01 | <Magotari:#uml> | THe first two years are mostly untracable, sadly. But the last two... Oh yes. |
| 21:02 | <Magotari:#uml> | Except... Out of all time with her, only 12 weeks were in person. Sad, eh? Four years of a wonderful relationship via the cable... |
| 21:02 | <jdike:#uml> | I'd expect that two years is evidence of a real relationship |
| 21:03 | <jdike:#uml> | She's Canadian or Polish? |
| 21:03 | <Magotari:#uml> | So we have a truckload of call and irc logs, some papers of gifts we sent each other via snailmain... |
| 21:03 | <Magotari:#uml> | Canadian. THe father was polish, but she does not know the language. |
| 21:06 | <Magotari:#uml> | We shall see. Time to make breakfast... 4Am local time, 4pm hawaii time... |
| 21:07 | <Magotari:#uml> | Shit. |
| 21:07 | <Magotari:#uml> | I did it again. Spent hours talking OT on irc. |
| 21:07 | <Magotari:#uml> | Sorry about that guys. I tend to do that. |
| 21:11 | <Magotari:#uml> | I cannot help but think that there might be a gain somewhere by modifying the C library on the guest to support UML somehow. |
| 21:11 | <Magotari:#uml> | I don't have any proof, but it is a nagging thought. |
| 21:12 | <Magotari:#uml> | Funny, I'm not good at coding, but I do get funny ideas. |
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| 21:40 | <Magotari:#uml> | Wow, I actually have the myco code with me here. |
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