TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#uml:2007:03:07

---	Log	opened Wed Mar 07 00:00:14 2007
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07:33	<kokoko1>	hi
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09:11	<jdike>	Hi guys
09:14	<peterz>	hey Jeff
09:15	<jdike>	peterz, non-linear VMAs aren't in mainline, correct?
09:16	<peterz>	they are
09:16	<jdike>	since when?
09:16	<peterz>	dunno
09:16	<peterz>	just not the vm_prot changes you need I guess
09:16	<jdike>	Oh, OK
09:16	<jdike>	yeah, those are kind of important
09:17	<peterz>	figured as much
09:17	<peterz>	but only after full reading the remap_file_pages manpage and noting that prot must be 0
09:17	<jdike>	yup
09:18	<peterz>	but you'd be using it on a ramfs thingy, right?
09:18	<jdike>	tmpfs
09:18	<jdike>	yes
09:24	[~]	jdike stares fondly at his brand-new desktop box
09:24	<jdike>	which unfortunately I'm not going to have time to install today
09:25	<jdike>	ought to be a huge improvement over my current 7-year old box
09:26	<peterz>	you got something like what arjan has?
09:27	<jdike>	what does he have?
09:27	<peterz>	2x4core xeon thingy
09:27	<jdike>	no
09:27	<jdike>	$900 core duo from Dell
09:28	<peterz>	aww, not even 64bit?
09:28	<jdike>	actually, it is
09:28	<peterz>	core 2 duo then
09:28	<jdike>	according to the BIOS anyway
09:28	<jdike>	yeah
09:28	<peterz>	ah, yeah, that are nice boxen
09:28	<jdike>	I thought the core2 were all 32-bit and the Xeons were the 64-bit ones
09:29	<jdike>	little do I know
09:29	<jdike>	s/core2/cores/
09:29	<peterz>	heh not paying attention when the company presents its new goodies, he
09:29	<jdike>	yep
09:29	<jdike>	but I think there's general agreement that the naming is non-optimal
09:30	<peterz>	but nobody dared tell the marketing department?
09:30	<jdike>	esp when figuring out whether you're looking at a 32 or 64-bit box
09:30	<peterz>	yeah, they got that real confusing
09:31	<peterz>	same thing with VT
09:31	<jdike>	yeah
09:31	<jdike>	and to make it worse, some OEMs disable VT
09:32	<jdike>	so you really have no idea what you're getting
09:32	<peterz>	yeah, zwane actually considered 'patching' his bios image to fix that
09:32	<jdike>	hehe
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10:25	<jdike>	who know how to use yum to get source?
10:25	<jdike>	knows
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10:41	<kokoko1>	jdike, you mean source rpm?
10:41	<jdike>	or to get the source RPM
10:42	<jdike>	I just did it anyway - found it by hand, but I thought there was a yum way to do it
10:42	<kokoko1>	Use yumdownloader in yum-utils
10:43	<jdike>	Ooh, didn't know about that
10:43	<kokoko1>	eg, something like this yumdownloader --source yum
10:43	<jdike>	yeah
10:44	<kokoko1>	I am glad I of some help to you :)
10:44	<jdike>	I'm debugging threads problems on x86_64 and need to look at bind/pthreads source
10:45	<kokoko1>	awesome
10:47	<kokoko1>	jdike, then you have to do ; fedora-buildrpmtree ; rpm -ivh packagname ; cd ~/rpmbuild/SOURCES :)
10:47	<kokoko1>	heheheh
10:48	<jdike>	OK
10:48	<jdike>	I've done the first one, and rpm -i seems to be happy dropping stuff in there
10:48	<kokoko1>	yes yes -vh on give some eye candy :-S
10:49	<kokoko1>	s/on/will
10:49	<jdike>	ah
10:49	<jdike>	that's important
10:50	<jdike>	kernel.org really sucks todayt
10:50	<jdike>	today
10:51	<kokoko1>	Yes, looks they need sponser to upgrade there setup machines, bandwidth etc :)
10:51	<kokoko1>	its not working here
10:51	<kokoko1>	jdike, I have upgraded all our hosts + UMLs to FC6
10:52	<jdike>	cool
10:52	<jdike>	kernel.org is getting hammered by git
10:55	<kokoko1>	rofl
10:59	<peterz>	korg is very unresponsive
11:00	<peterz>	I guess we're all not nice to zeus2
11:00	<peterz>	even though we were asked to be
11:06	<jdike>	hmmm
11:06	<kokoko1>	if a host reboot and one of UML providing samba shares and it boot after other uml then other umls fails to mount the smb shares
11:06	<jdike>	just managed to load the main page, and that request was two days ago
11:07	<peterz>	lol
11:07	<jdike>	guess things aren't going according to plan
11:07	<peterz>	your browser kept up for 2 days?
11:07	<peterz>	persistent little bugger
11:07	<jdike>	no
11:07	<jdike>	just noticing dates
11:08	<jdike>	Mar 5, 2007: Zeus1 will be offline starting Mar 6, 2007 ...
11:08	<jdike>	OK, so that was starting yesterday
11:08	<kokoko1>	I am wondering how to tell UML mouting the share to sleep for sometime
11:08	<kokoko1>	i have this entry in /etc/fstab
11:08	<kokoko1>	/KARMA-H/samba/karma-b /var/mrsmonclient cifs username=karma-b,password=xxxxxxxx 0 0
11:08	<kokoko1>	I am looking for solution something like this ...
11:08	<kokoko1>	while (mount_samba()==unsuccessful) { sleep(5) }
11:09	<jdike>	that password doesn't look too secure :-)
11:09	<kokoko1>	np :)
11:09	<jdike>	while [ ! mount -a -t samba ]; do sleep 5; done
11:09	<kokoko1>	which script need to check on samba client UML which mount fstab fs
11:10	<kokoko1>	nice, but where to stick it :)
11:10	<jdike>	dunno
11:10	<jdike>	OK
11:11	<jdike>	% yum list "glibc"
11:11	<jdike>	...
11:11	<jdike>	glibc.x86_64 2.4-11 installed
11:11	<jdike>	So I have a glibc.x86_64
11:11	<kokoko1>	cool, :)
11:11	<peterz>	but a rather old one
11:11	<jdike>	% yumdownloader --source glibc.x86_64
11:11	<jdike>	...
11:11	<jdike>	No Match for argument glibc.x86_64
11:12	<jdike>	but yumdownloader is clueless
11:12	<peterz>	yum is clueless in general
11:12	<kokoko1>	jdike, yum provides blah ?
11:13	<jdike>	it's FC5, so not that old
11:13	<jdike>	kokoko1, say that again?
11:14	<kokoko1>	yum provides somefile (give you package which have this file)
11:14	<kokoko1>	English :)
11:14	<jdike>	Oh, yeah
11:15	<jdike>	it's glibc
11:15	<jdike>	well, I did rpm -q -f /lib/libpthread.so.0
11:15	<jdike>	which told me glibc
11:15	<kokoko1>	rpm -qf is good if you have package already installeld
11:16	<kokoko1>	installed*
11:16	<jdike>	glibc is hard to avoid
11:16	<kokoko1>	heh
11:16	<kokoko1>	now i am wondering where in init stage put the samba checking loop :-S
11:18	<peterz>	http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/the-redhat-package-mangler
11:18	<peterz>	I'm sure you guys love that ;-)
11:18	<kokoko1>	clicked
11:18	<jdike>	interesting
11:18	<jdike>	it knows about libc, just not source
11:23	<jdike>	hehe
11:26	<kokoko1>	jdike, what source you are looking for let me find you?
11:26	<jdike>	glibc
11:26	<kokoko1>	k
11:26	<jdike>	glibc-2.4-11
11:26	<kokoko1>	fc5?
11:26	<jdike>	yeah
11:27	<jdike>	the exact version probably doesn't matter too much
11:27	<kokoko1>	http://ftp.linux.ncsu.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/5/source/SRPMS/glibc-2.4-4.src.rpm <-- will not work?
11:28	<jdike>	probably will
11:33	<jdike>	OK, tx
11:34	<kokoko1>	Your welcome
11:43	<kokoko1>	How do i print a list of program names currently running(only the program names, not PID's,etc)?
11:43	<kokoko1>	please don't tell me read 'man ps' :_S
11:44	<jdike>	man awkj
11:44	<jdike>	awk
11:45	<kokoko1>	heh :)
11:45	<kokoko1>	okay
11:46	<peterz>	ps -deo cmd
11:47	<kokoko1>	peterz, thanks
11:51	<kokoko1>	peterz, ps -deo comm , is cool :)
11:51	<peterz>	hmm that seems to truncate some though, but yeah, much more readable
11:55	<jdike>	you gotta wonder how much functionality these things need, though
11:55	<jdike>	is that really a huge improvement over ps \| awk '{print $4}'?
11:57	<peterz>	not sure, its less typing though
11:58	<jdike>	not less reading of man pages
11:58	<peterz>	I've even see ppl use awk on top
11:58	<jdike>	hehe
11:58	<jdike>	wow
11:58	<peterz>	it sorts you know
11:59	<peterz>	anyway, once upon a time I read a 1000 page unix reference manual
11:59	<peterz>	and ever since some really weird things stuck
12:00	<kokoko1>	ps \| awk '{print $4}' , will not give you all command running
12:00	<jdike>	true
12:00	<jdike>	but the fact that it's writing to a pipe should confuse the nice terminal stuff
12:01	<jdike>	ps -ax \| awk '{print $5}'
12:02	<jdike>	does, and it doesn't truncate
12:02	<kokoko1>	oh yeah :)
12:06	[~]	jdike fixes the x86_64 threads problem
12:07	[~]	jdike waits for the thunderous applause
12:07	<jdike>	wankers
12:07	<jdike>	see if I ever fix another bug
12:09	<kokoko1>	hehe
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21:28	<Aaron_Mason>	hey all
21:34	<Aaron_Mason>	i found out why uml tries to bring xterms up
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21:48	<Aaron_Mason>	wb
21:51	<Aaron_Mason>	to stop UML from producing xterms, turn off "xterm channel support" under "Character devices"
21:51	<Aaron_Mason>	even if noone's here to read that, at least it'll get indexed by google eventually
21:52	<Aaron_Mason>	oh, and change "Default console channel initialization" to tty
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