TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#uml:2007:03:02

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07:20	<jeroenh>	Is there anyone who has used uml_switch2 ?
07:52	[~]	delsid_ stares at his feet
07:58	[~]	kokoko1 stares delsid_
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08:10	<delsid_>	i still think a command line hostfs mountpoint is a good idea
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08:32	<delsid>	is it possible to free up memory in /dev/shm? or prevent it from getting consumed during disc writes?
08:32	<delsid>	tmpfs 524288 194012 330276 38% /dev/shm
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08:52	<delsid>	sorry i see now, it has stopped increasing
08:52	<delsid>	" A UML's consumption of this space will asymptotically approach its physical memory size"
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09:44	<delsid>	"to the batmobile!"
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10:44	<the_hydra>	hello
10:49	<delsid>	hi
10:49	<the_hydra>	hi delsid
10:49	<the_hydra>	first timer here?
11:00	<delsid>	ew
11:00	<delsid>	new
11:00	<delsid>	wanted to do UML for years but finally got around to it
11:01	<the_hydra>	congratulation...and welcome aboard
11:01	<delsid>	i like the idea of setting up uml servers for services
11:01	<delsid>	and having them be very portable, not relying on vt in cpus
11:01	<delsid>	thanks
11:02	<the_hydra>	well, the choice is always yours, so if UML suits your need, then go with it
11:03	<delsid>	what is your role/history with uml?
11:03	<the_hydra>	I usually use UML for personal experiment
11:04	<the_hydra>	e.g what happen if I do this..... but I don't want to screw up my real machine
11:04	<delsid>	mhm
11:05	<delsid>	do you run SKAS3 or SKAS0?
11:05	<the_hydra>	SKAS3
11:05	<the_hydra>	but sometimes I still use tt mode
11:05	<the_hydra>	but I rarely use UML these days
11:06	<delsid>	the sid .deb of UML seems to run SKAS0
11:06	<the_hydra>	hm
11:06	<delsid>	i am doing all my web browsing and media-viewing in it
11:06	<delsid>	since i've been rootkitted twice in the last month
11:07	<the_hydra>	oh gee, no kidding?
11:07	<the_hydra>	root kitted?
11:07	<the_hydra>	even if you browse using non root account?
11:07	<delsid>	well something was opening connections, scanning nfs shares
11:07	<delsid>	and not visible to userland
11:08	<the_hydra>	oh...so sorry to hear that...rootkitted twice sounds real bad
11:08	<delsid>	i'm not a security expert by any means, but i have 10 years experience with linux and 20 years with unix
11:09	<the_hydra>	salute!
11:09	<delsid>	cheers m8
11:09	<the_hydra>	you get my respect!
11:10	<delsid>	i'm just old, that's all
11:10	<the_hydra>	excuse me, may I know how old are you?
11:10	<delsid>	37
11:11	<the_hydra>	-> 28
11:11	<delsid>	feeling like you're on top of your game?
11:11	<the_hydra>	me? nahhh
11:12	<the_hydra>	i am just an average skilled person
11:12	<delsid>	good. i've always tried to explain to my father that computer programmers/admins
11:13	<delsid>	don't need to be computer scientists, they're more like craftsmen
11:13	<delsid>	watchmakers, engineers, etc
11:13	<delsid>	at least most.
11:14	<the_hydra>	I also share the same view like yours
11:14	<the_hydra>	we don't need to be a super geek
11:14	<the_hydra>	just because we are on computer field
11:15	<delsid>	wow Jakarta
11:15	<the_hydra>	you got my IP :)
11:15	<the_hydra>	that surprised you?
11:16	<delsid>	only met one other person from indonesia
11:16	<the_hydra>	actually I live on East Java
11:16	<delsid>	ahh
11:16	<the_hydra>	mind to tell me what's your name and where you live?
11:16	<delsid>	yes and no
11:16	<delsid>	xxx, germany
11:17	<the_hydra>	ok, np
11:17	<the_hydra>	i'm Mulyadi
11:17	<the_hydra>	so, where did you meet this other Indonesian?
11:17	<delsid>	#politics @freenode irc
11:18	<delsid>	he hates* arabs :)
11:18	<delsid>	but this is not the place for politics
11:19	<the_hydra>	np, was just asking
11:19	<HuK0B>	I have got problem with all old umls on ext2 when I have host kernel >=2.6.18
11:19	<HuK0B>	ubda: unknown partition table
11:19	<HuK0B>	ubdb: unknown partition table
11:19	<HuK0B>	ubdc: unknown partition table
11:19	<HuK0B>	VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
11:19	<HuK0B>	if I try it on 2.6.17 everything is ok
11:19	<delsid>	it starts up readonly, then changes to rw?
11:19	<delsid>	i get the unknown partition table too, but the system works
11:19	<HuK0B>	no
11:19	<HuK0B>	just stuck
11:20	<HuK0B>	VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
11:20	<the_hydra>	HuK0B: not really helping, have you reported it directly to jeff via e-mail?
11:20	<HuK0B>	no
11:21	<HuK0B>	I w8 him to become online in irc
11:21	<the_hydra>	HuK0B: ok
11:22	<delsid>	what guest uml kernel versions HuK0B ?
11:22	<HuK0B>	2.6.17
11:22	<HuK0B>	do I have to change it?
11:22	<the_hydra>	and the host is 2.6.18?
11:22	<delsid>	no i was just googling
11:22	<HuK0B>	everything is fine with ext3 file system
11:22	<HuK0B>	yes I tryed on host 2.6.18 and 2.6.19.2
11:23	<HuK0B>	both stuck
11:23	<HuK0B>	on 2.6.17 or less it work fine
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11:24	<delsid>	on 2.6.20 kernel i get unknown partition table at startup always
11:25	<delsid>	then VFS: Mounted root (ext3 filesystem) readonly.
11:25	<HuK0B>	in ext3 I don't have problems but ext2...
11:25	<delsid>	then i can write... hmm
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11:26	<delsid>	where does it get 'stuck'?
11:27	<the_hydra>	HuK0B: or better, could you hook gdb to this UML and get a backtrace?
11:27	<the_hydra>	that could help jeff better
11:27	<HuK0B>	ok I will try
11:28	<the_hydra>	good luck
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13:18	<caker>	delsid: there's a patch for that
13:20	<delsid>	patch for HuKOB's problem? or for the partition table warning?
13:20	<delsid>	or for adding a non-changeable hostfs mountpoint?
13:21	<caker>	fix for the hang at " VFS: Mounted root (ext3 filesystem) readonly."
13:21	<caker>	(I didn't read all the scrollback, sorry if it's out of context)
13:21	<delsid>	ok.. it doesn't hang here
13:21	<caker>	for future reference, it's: http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/2/15/227
13:22	<delsid>	<- all fun, no problems :)
13:22	<delsid>	ty
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