TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#uml:2007:01:04

---	Log	opened Thu Jan 04 00:00:51 2007
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03:16	<rasix>	hi all .. i get problem and now try to use blaisorblade suggestion
03:16	<rasix>	Use a 32-bit UML kernel, 64bit ones do not support (yet) emulation for 32bit
03:17	<rasix>	guest binaries.
03:17	[~]	rasix noob
03:17	<rasix>	and how can i do that when i want to compile from source
03:18	<rasix>	thereis no option for it when i type make menuconfig ARCH=um
03:20	<rasix>	does it mean that i need my host kernel 32bit?
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06:53	<Lemy>	hello
06:55	<Lemy>	i have debian 2.6.8 installed , and don't get the skas patch running, so that my uml uses skas3
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08:52	<LemyDanger>	the site www.user-mode-linux.org is down. Is there another address to get the patches ?
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09:33	<LemyDanger>	is there a mirror for http://www.user-mode-linux.org/~blaisorblade/ ?
09:33	<LemyDanger>	the server doesnt answer
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10:17	<mnky>	good day!
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10:27	<mnky>	have a lil problem setting up a bridge to have internet access in my uml, i've done everyting like its described over here http://edeca.net/articles/bridging/ but i only could ping my host but nothing out there .. resolv.conf is also the same as in the host
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10:32	<mnky>	does anybody have a clue whats goin wrong? i think its a problem in the host caus i could ping the host from the uml client ..
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10:58	<jdike>	Hi guys
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10:58	<LemyDanger>	jeff dike ?
10:59	<jdike>	yup
10:59	<LemyDanger>	i am the guy from germany with happy new year and so on :)
11:00	<jdike>	Ah, yes
11:01	<LemyDanger>	i am trying to get the uml running in skas3 mode, patching the host kernel is hard for me, but when it runs i will install steam again and if the gameserver doesnt run then, i will do the strace
11:02	<jdike>	OK
11:02	<LemyDanger>	and send you an email
11:02	<jdike>	People do run CS servers under UML
11:03	<LemyDanger>	i read it to, but after 2 weeks i was really down, but now the energy is back
11:03	<LemyDanger>	thx to your email :)
11:03	<jdike>	also the egg nog wore off
11:03	<jdike>	that can be nasty stuff
11:04	<LemyDanger>	i tried it with the debian skas patch , that doesnt work, now i do it manually
11:05	<LemyDanger>	i can tell in half an hour wether it runs
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11:19	<mnky>	lil problem setting up a bridge for internet access in uml, i've done everyting like its described at http://edeca.net/articles/bridging/ but i only could ping my host (resolv.conf is the same as host) .. btw thanks jeff for your great work =)
11:22	<jdike>	tx
11:22	<jdike>	packet forwarding on?
11:22	<jdike>	on the host
11:22	<mnky>	"brctl setfd uml-bridge 0" .. i was wondering too .. thats it ?
11:24	<jdike>	no
11:25	<jdike>	sorry, with bridging, forwarding isn't needed
11:26	<mnky>	no problem, dont wanna waste your time with my noobish problems, i'll find a way i'm just new in this
11:28	<LemyDanger>	here is a site that worked for me http://eggdrop.ch/texts/uml/
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11:28	<LemyDanger>	for bridging
11:28	<jdike>	what does your bridge look like?
11:30	<mnky>	mine? like this http://edeca.net/articles/bridging/create-bridge.html
11:30	<jdike>	brctl show
11:32	<mnky>	bridge name bridge id STP enabled interfaces
11:32	<mnky>	uml-bridge 8000.000c766ab81e no eth0
11:32	<mnky>	uml-conn0
11:33	<jdike>	if you tcpdump eth0, do you see pings going out/
11:33	<jdike>	?
11:33	<jdike>	if you can tcpdump it, if not, then use uml-bridge
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11:34	<mnky>	mh i setup eth1 cuz i'm not using eth0 for network .. strange maybe thats the mistake
11:34	<mnky>	how do i see if any of my uml-pings go out ?
11:35	<jdike>	tcpdump the outgoing interface
11:39	<mnky>	i think it its my mistake in setup the bridge
11:40	<mnky>	don't have time now but thanks for your time jeff, i'll try it again later
11:40	<jdike>	OK
11:41	<mnky>	bye jeff, bye everyone
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11:45	<LemyDanger>	ok, the uml still runs in skas0 mode, do I have to make some "Y" in the menuconfig or is it enough to do the patch?
11:46	<LemyDanger>	i have to eat now, cu later
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12:08	<LemyDanger>	back again
12:09	<jdike>	UML autodetects the skas patch
12:10	<LemyDanger>	i get 3 times not found :(
12:10	<LemyDanger>	and i really dont understand it
12:10	<LemyDanger>	so i will reinstall all, hehe
12:11	<LemyDanger>	fuuhhh
12:12	<jdike>	Are you sure you need it?
12:12	<jdike>	skas0 isn't too different, usually
12:13	<LemyDanger>	but my hope is that then everything is running
12:14	<jdike>	I would figure out what's going on rather than randomly fiddle things and hope they make the problem go away
12:14	<LemyDanger>	but my linux knowledge isnt that great
12:15	<jdike>	then why are you patching kernels?
12:15	<jdike>	running strace is more your speed
12:15	<LemyDanger>	because i want best performance, security and all that
12:17	<jdike>	skas0 isn't too different, speedwise, from skas3
12:17	<jdike>	at this point, you're just mixing problems together
12:17	<jdike>	get CS running, then get skas3 running
12:18	<LemyDanger>	ok. then strace :)
12:19	<LemyDanger>	how long do you stay here?
12:20	<jdike>	all day (us/eastern)
12:20	<LemyDanger>	hihi, ok
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14:19	<LemyDanger>	Jeff?
14:47	<jdike>	yup
14:47	<jdike>	you strace the server inside UML
14:50	<LemyDanger>	yes i did
14:50	<LemyDanger>	it was in a loop
14:50	<LemyDanger>	i stopped it with killall linux
14:51	<jdike>	hmmm
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14:51	<jdike>	what version of UML?
14:51	<LemyDanger>	there was no .log
14:51	<LemyDanger>	2.6.15
14:51	<jdike>	can you try something more modern?
14:51	<LemyDanger>	what ? :)
14:53	<jdike>	like maybe 2.6.19?
14:55	<LemyDanger>	it is Linux version 2.6.16.8-bs2
14:55	<LemyDanger>	steam complains about the cpu frequency
14:56	<LemyDanger>	then it goes in a loop
14:56	<LemyDanger>	and restarts the server
14:57	<LemyDanger>	i found this in the internet :
14:57	<LemyDanger>	The binary also makes use of /proc. As I've already explained,
14:57	<LemyDanger>	if you look at the output properly, even though the script
14:57	<LemyDanger>	throws some warnings the binary is still run.
14:57	<LemyDanger>	The binary then failed due to lack of proper support for
14:57	<LemyDanger>	timing purposes.
14:57	<LemyDanger>	I believe source uses a number of methods to determine CPU
14:57	<LemyDanger>	speed but the only really reliable one seems to be /proc.
14:57	<LemyDanger>	Without it you will end up with the server being unable
14:57	<LemyDanger>	start some of the time at least.
14:58	<LemyDanger>	does it help you?
14:59	<jdike>	you can map the host's /proc into UML
14:59	<LemyDanger>	how?
14:59	<jdike>	a UML filesystem, hppfs
15:00	<LemyDanger>	ok google "hppfs"
15:05	<LemyDanger>	is it something similar to hostfs?
15:06	<LemyDanger>	honeypot proc fs
15:06	<LemyDanger>	ok
15:07	<jdike>	yup
15:08	<LemyDanger>	i havve no hppfs, ill get it
15:08	<jdike>	it'll be handy to know what the server looks at
15:08	<jdike>	actually, hppfs is too general for what you want
15:08	<LemyDanger>	i have no information
15:08	<jdike>	if you can figure out what it's looking at, you can just bind mount fake files into /proc
15:09	<LemyDanger>	ok
15:10	<LemyDanger>	like cpuinfo?
15:10	<jdike>	yup
15:10	<jdike>	copy it into UML somewhere, then mount --bind fake-cpuinfo /proc/cpuinfo
15:11	<LemyDanger>	ok 5 minutes
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15:19	<LemyDanger>	HAHHAHAHAHAHA
15:19	<LemyDanger>	now I will try to play
15:19	<LemyDanger>	but it looks good
15:21	<LemyDanger>	now, i'm really going crazy
15:21	<LemyDanger>	wonderful, thank you so much man, i cant tell
15:22	<LemyDanger>	you are relly godlike
15:22	<jdike>	cool
15:22	<LemyDanger>	im only laughing
15:22	<LemyDanger>	i have a latency of 1
15:23	<LemyDanger>	and it runs like hell
15:23	<LemyDanger>	im so glad
15:23	<LemyDanger>	i have read another thing in the internet now i can show it to you
15:23	<LemyDanger>	im looking for it
15:26	<LemyDanger>	Not sure if u saw my earlier email but if your running on
15:27	<LemyDanger>	Not sure if u saw my earlier email but if your running on a linux node aka user mode linux, then just forget it the servers not gonna run.
15:27	<LemyDanger>	found in valvesoftware/mailman/listinfo/hlds linux
15:28	<LemyDanger>	these are people with my knowledge and not yours , hahahah
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18:02	<richardw_>	i have a problem with opensuse 10.2 as uml guest. (host kernel 2.6.18.2, guest kernel 2.6.19.1). after mounting the root filesystem init writes "INIT: Id "1" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes". is this the "vdso_compat-problem"?
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