| --- | Log | opened Mon Apr 18 00:00:24 2005 |
| 00:00 | Squink | no luck |
| 00:00 | mikegrb | which kernel version? |
| 00:01 | Squink | for the .disk or the box? |
| 00:01 | mikegrb | for uml |
| 00:01 | mikegrb | though I doubt it matters |
| 00:01 | Squink | 2.6.11 |
| 00:03 | mikegrb | yeah |
| 00:03 | mikegrb | I don't really have any other suggestions |
| 00:03 | Squink | hum |
| 00:03 | mikegrb | you could check back in about 12 hrs |
| 00:03 | mikegrb | generally a bit more busy during the day .us time |
| 00:04 | Squink | heh, I need this running in 12 hours ;) |
| 00:04 | Squink | ah well. thanks anyway |
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| 00:19 | Squink | ah hah |
| 00:19 | Squink | same thing is happening with root=root_fs_slackware_7.1_small |
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| 00:46 | Squink | Time for another recompile \o/ |
| 00:46 | Squink | I think i've done this ... 8 times today? |
| 00:51 | Squink | argh. |
| 00:53 | Newsome | Squink: What is the UML filesystem, FC1? |
| 00:53 | Squink | yep |
| 00:54 | Squink | but it's also doing it with the Slack I just downloaded.. |
| 00:54 | Newsome | do you have devfs support compiled into the UML kernel? |
| 00:54 | | * Squink checks |
| 00:54 | Newsome | ./linux --showconfig|grep DEVFS |
| 00:55 | Squink | ah hah. not set. |
| 00:55 | Newsome | I think FC1 uses devfs |
| 00:55 | Newsome | I could be wrong, though (been a while) |
| 00:56 | | * Squink recompiles |
| 00:56 | Newsome | you're compiling everything in, right? (not modules...) |
| 00:56 | Squink | should be |
| 00:57 | Squink | I'm just doing make menuconfig |
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| 01:02 | Squink^ | hm |
| 01:02 | Squink^ | alright. recompiling. |
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| 01:05 | Squink^ | Newsome: should I set CONFIG_DEVFS_MOUNT? |
| 01:05 | Newsome | Squink: I think you can change that on the command line, so it shouldn't be necessary |
| 01:06 | Squink^ | right |
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| 01:07 | Squink^ | Always do synchronous disk IO for UBD (BLK_DEV_UBD_SYNC) [N/y/?] (NEW) |
| 01:07 | Squink^ | This is new.. |
| 01:07 | Squink^ | what'dya think. ye or ne? |
| 01:08 | Newsome | either way should work |
| 01:08 | Newsome | the default of N should be fine |
| 01:15 | Squink^ | gah |
| 01:15 | Squink^ | no luck with that either. |
| 01:15 | Newsome | hmm |
| 01:17 | Squink^ | infact |
| 01:17 | Squink^ | it says the same thing regardless of whether i specify any options at all. |
| 01:18 | | * Newsome digs out an FC1 filesystem, and starts configuring up a UML kernel... |
| 01:18 | Squink^ | \o/ |
| 01:18 | Squink^ | this is very strange indeed. |
| 01:20 | Shaun | david you about? |
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| 01:26 | Newsome | Squink^: are you using TT or SKAS mode? |
| 01:27 | tosh_8200 | hi there, |
| 01:27 | Squink^ | I think it's dropping back to TT; Checking for /proc/mm...not found |
| 01:27 | Newsome | ok |
| 01:27 | tosh_8200 | anybody here who can help me out with a uml installation on a RH FC3 ? |
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| 01:28 | Squink^ | heh |
| 01:29 | tosh_8200 | or on a host-kernel 2.6.11.7 ? |
| 01:30 | Squink^ | sounds like my problem... |
| 01:32 | tosh_8200 | nobody ? |
| 01:32 | Shaun | tosh_8200: whats the problem |
| 01:33 | tosh_8200 | general knowledge leak on my side .. |
| 01:33 | tosh_8200 | i didn`t dound any howto which really describes the setup from scratch .. |
| 01:34 | Shaun | i'm not going to give you a step by step tutorial, i dont have the time, if you have questions maybe i can answer them |
| 01:34 | tosh_8200 | do i have to patch th kernel 2.6.11.7 or not ? which is the correct patch, still changes needed in the kernel config ? |
| 01:34 | tosh_8200 | ;) |
| 01:34 | Shaun | you dont have to patch the host |
| 01:35 | Shaun | i would recommend it |
| 01:35 | tosh_8200 | ok |
| 01:35 | tosh_8200 | TUN has to be enabled ? |
| 01:35 | Shaun | well |
| 01:35 | Shaun | yes... |
| 01:35 | Shaun | you have to run the unsupported rpm kernel if you dont want to compile from source |
| 01:36 | Shaun | basically the idiots over at Redhat decided to include tun support in the config, but then wrote a patch to remove it |
| 01:36 | Shaun | if you run the -unsupported rpm version they have out, that shouldnt remove the tun support. |
| 01:37 | Shaun | at least it didnt for me on CentOS... |
| 01:37 | tosh_8200 | wait i will get the correct error which i get after starting it on a "scratch" kernel |
| 01:37 | Shaun | with FC3 they might have changed things |
| 01:37 | Squink^ | correct error? :) |
| 01:37 | tosh_8200 | yepp ;) |
| 01:38 | tosh_8200 | just have to connect to the machine, takes me a minute |
| 01:38 | Newsome | Squink^: do you have a decent download rate, or should I strip this binary? |
| 01:38 | Squink^ | download should be fine |
| 01:38 | Squink^ | 5MB |
| 01:39 | Squink^ | better yet if you upload it i can just wget it onto the server |
| 01:40 | tosh_8200 | ->Shaun : Murphy was here, machine is down, will come back to you later |
| 01:40 | Newsome | yeah, just double-checking to make sure it'll work |
| 01:41 | Shaun | wow, thats just weird. |
| 01:41 | Shaun | tosh_8200: my full name used to be Shaun Murphy |
| 01:41 | tosh_8200 | ? |
| 01:41 | tosh_8200 | ;) |
| 01:41 | Shaun | Shaun : Murphy was here, |
| 01:41 | Shaun | :) |
| 01:41 | Squink^ | lol |
| 01:41 | tosh_8200 | so it was you , hehehe |
| 01:41 | Shaun | haha |
| 01:42 | tosh_8200 | but i have my own murphy, and believe me , i met him very often the last weeks ... |
| 01:42 | Shaun | skas-2.6? |
| 01:42 | tosh_8200 | so, i will be back later |
| 01:42 | Shaun | linbot: skas-2.6? |
| 01:42 | linbot | http://www.user-mode-linux.org/~blaisorblade/patches/skas3-2.6/host-skas3-2.6.10-v7.patch |
| 01:43 | Newsome | Squink^: Here's a binary that should work with FC1...still testing, though - http://uml.tuxrocks.com/tmp/linux-2.6.11-um1 |
| 01:44 | Shaun | Newsome: you used http://www.user-mode-linux.org/~blaisorblade/patches/skas3-2.6/skas-2.6.11-v8/skas-2.6.11-v8.patch.bz2 yet? |
| 01:44 | Squink^ | Newsome: ok, checking now |
| 01:45 | Newsome | Shaun: I think so...I'll check what version I've got right now |
| 01:45 | Squink^ | heh |
| 01:45 | Squink^ | 900kbps |
| 01:45 | Squink^ | Never seen that before. |
| 01:46 | Newsome | Shaun: Looks like I'm currently running whatever BB calls v9-pre1 |
| 01:46 | Shaun | ok |
| 01:46 | Newsome | Squink^: That's coming off a UML |
| 01:47 | Shaun | Newsome: you dont happen to know of a way i can start like a console log do you |
| 01:47 | Shaun | basically want to log everything i'm doing on the host it self (not from my client) |
| 01:48 | Newsome | yeah, you can do that if you're using screen |
| 01:48 | Newsome | I'll go check what my .screenrc says |
| 01:49 | Squink^ | holy shit. it works |
| 01:49 | Newsome | :) |
| 01:49 | Squink^ | thanks Newsome :D |
| 01:49 | Squink^ | you just saved the day.. |
| 01:49 | Newsome | Squink^: Glad it works. You can see the .config options with --showconfig if you want to compile up your own! |
| 01:50 | Squink^ | hah, maybe when I have time :) Now i have the fun of getting the networking working/assigning it to an IP (both of which i have no idea how to do yet), and then installing everything.. |
| 01:51 | Newsome | Shaun: Are you using screen? |
| 01:51 | Shaun | i can |
| 01:51 | Shaun | i just want to log my kernel compiles because some times i forget what patches i used and what not |
| 01:51 | Newsome | oh |
| 01:51 | Newsome | use script |
| 01:52 | Squink^ | OH awesome. Now it's hanging on ATD init :) |
| 01:53 | Newsome | Shaun: You ever used script before? |
| 01:55 | Shaun | nope |
| 01:55 | Shaun | does it work like autoexpect? |
| 01:56 | Shaun | loooks like it does |
| 01:56 | Newsome | okay, to start out, just type 'script logfile' and it'll start logging everything to 'logfile'. 'exit' or 'control-D' to stop |
| 01:56 | Newsome | yeah, similar in concept |
| 01:56 | Shaun | cool, thanks |
| 01:56 | Shaun | i figured there was somthing |
| 01:56 | Newsome | more for logging than for generating a script to replicate it |
| 01:59 | Newsome | Squink^: still hung, or did it eventually come up? |
| 02:04 | Squink^ | still hung |
| 02:04 | Newsome | hmm, odd |
| 02:05 | Newsome | Well, glad you're further along at least. I've gotta go get some sleep tonight. Later, and good luck. |
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| 02:36 | Squink^ | alrighty |
| 02:36 | Squink^ | -y |
| 02:36 | Squink^ | problem #2 |
| 02:37 | Squink^ | Fedora .disk hangs when trying to init local |
| 02:37 | Squink^ | or atd |
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| 03:09 | Shaun | Squink^: whats your start line look like? |
| 03:10 | Squink^ | /home/uml/linux-2.6.11-um1 devfs=nomount ubd0=fedora-core1.disk |
| 03:11 | Squink^ | gets to |
| 03:11 | Squink^ | Starting atd: [ OK ] |
| 03:11 | Squink^ | and then hangs |
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| 03:28 | Squink^ | oh wait |
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| 03:29 | Squink^ | it seems to hang after ATD/Local regardless of whether i actually init them (interactive startup) |
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| 03:51 | Shaun | did you change your inittab to use tty0 rather than tty1 |
| 03:51 | Shaun | also add tty0 to /etc/securettys |
| 03:52 | Shaun | also you may want to pass con=null con0=fd:0,fd:1 |
| 04:03 | | * Squink^ replaces his .disk and starts again |
| 04:04 | Squink^ | alright, Shaun, so what am i changing in inittab? |
| 04:06 | Shaun | the tty1 to tty0 |
| 04:08 | Squink^ | 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty0, right? |
| 04:08 | Shaun | ya |
| 04:08 | Squink^ | alright. changed those. |
| 04:09 | Squink^ | ubd0=fedora-core1.disk con0=fd:0,fd:1 con=null root=98:0 |
| 04:09 | Squink^ | look about right to you? |
| 04:11 | Shaun | ya. |
| 04:12 | Squink^ | k it's going through the motions.. |
| 04:12 | Squink^ | \o/ |
| 04:12 | Squink^ | It worked! |
| 04:18 | Squink^ | ok! |
| 04:18 | Squink^ | new question: how do i gracefully exit? |
| 04:18 | Shaun | poweroff |
| 04:19 | Shaun | or shutdown now |
| 04:19 | Shaun | or init 6 |
| 04:19 | Shaun | :) |
| 04:19 | Squink^ | i did that, but it didnt actually exit |
| 04:19 | Shaun | all that normal stuff |
| 04:19 | Squink^ | which is why i ask :) |
| 04:19 | Shaun | whats it doing? |
| 04:19 | Squink^ | INIT: Sending processes the KILL signal |
| 04:19 | Squink^ | sh-2.05b# |
| 04:19 | Squink^ | sh-2.05b# ls |
| 04:19 | Squink^ | bin boot |
| 04:19 | Squink^ | .. |
| 04:19 | Squink^ | etc |
| 04:21 | Shaun | hmm |
| 04:21 | Shaun | dunno, my exits out |
| 04:23 | Squink^ | heh |
| 04:23 | Squink^ | well I guess my has just been notoriously odd since i started this .. |
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| 06:07 | Squink^ | anyone awake? |
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| 07:08 | lynx | re |
| 07:09 | lynx | I get segfaults for some programs in the guest OS |
| 07:09 | lynx | these are: bind, apache2, slapd |
| 07:10 | lynx | but only when I'm using a debian linux |
| 07:10 | lynx | it works with gentoo |
| 07:11 | lynx | kernel: 2.6.11.4 |
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| 07:48 | Wand | hi |
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| 07:48 | Wand | can anybody help me with network via uml_switch? |
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| 07:52 | Wand | I run uml_switch with -unix /tmp/net.ctl |
| 07:53 | Wand | I run uml with eth0=daemon,,unix,/tmp/net.ctl |
| 07:53 | Wand | I cann't up eth0 inside uml |
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| 07:56 | Wand | do I need any host preparations before using uml_switch (e.g. up tap-device)? |
| 08:07 | lynx | Wand: don't really know. but do you have an error message ? ifconfig eth0 ? |
| 08:10 | Wand | lynx: i built monolitic kernel for uml and after ifup eth0 I see |
| 08:10 | Wand | modprobe: Can't open dependencies file /lib/modules/2.4.27-1um/modules.dep (No such file or directory) modprobe: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented |
| 08:11 | Wand | but also I see uml_switch attached to unix socket '/tmp/net.ctl' after uml booting |
| 08:13 | lynx | Wand: ok, you don't have the modules installed |
| 08:13 | lynx | Wand: mkdir /lib/modules/2.4.27-1um/ |
| 08:13 | lynx | Wand: and depmod -ae will help for the first message |
| 08:14 | lynx | Wand: modprobe: QM_MODULES: means, that you have a kernel 2.6, but you don't have the module-init-tools installed |
| 08:14 | Wand | should I do make modules_install if I build monolitic kernle? |
| 08:14 | lynx | Wand: no |
| 08:14 | lynx | Wand: just run the 2 commands above |
| 08:15 | Wand | btw, i am using 2.4.27 kernel |
| 08:15 | lynx | Wand: modules_install won't help, since you are not compiling _in_ your uml session |
| 08:16 | lynx | Wand: modprobe misses the directory above, just create it |
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| 08:17 | Wand | I've just created it but 'depmod -ae' gives: depmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented |
| 08:18 | lynx | <lynx> Wand: modprobe: QM_MODULES: means, that you have a kernel 2.6, but you don't have the module-init-tools installed |
| 08:19 | lynx | Wand: install the module-init-tools package |
| 08:21 | Wand | lynx: I need a package what is containd modprobe and other kernel utils, don't it? |
| 08:22 | lynx | Wand: you need the package called module-init-tools |
| 08:22 | lynx | Wand: which distro are you using ? |
| 08:22 | Wand | scientific linux cern 3.0.4 |
| 08:23 | lynx | hum.. based on what ? |
| 08:23 | Wand | Red hat EL 3 |
| 08:23 | Wand | they are similar |
| 08:23 | lynx | Wand: do you have apt-get ? |
| 08:23 | Wand | yum |
| 08:23 | lynx | ah yes.. |
| 08:23 | lynx | try to install the package |
| 08:25 | Wand | but yum could not found it: yum search module-init-tools : No packages found |
| 08:25 | Wand | what files do I need from that package? |
| 08:26 | Wand | depmod? |
| 08:27 | Wand | lynx: modutils package contains depmod |
| 08:32 | lynx | Wand: what kernel version do you have ? |
| 08:33 | Wand | 2.4.27 |
| 08:33 | Wand | uml kernle |
| 08:33 | lynx | Wand: hum, ok |
| 08:33 | lynx | Wand: module-init-tools is only for kernel 2.6 |
| 08:34 | lynx | Wand: so forget about it... |
| 08:34 | lynx | Wand: modutils is for 2.4, so it's ok |
| 08:34 | lynx | Wand: what gives an ifconfig eth0 ? |
| 08:35 | Wand | SIOCSIFADDR: No such device |
| 08:35 | Wand | eth0: unknown interface: No such device |
| 08:35 | Wand | eth0: unknown interface: No such device |
| 08:38 | Wand | that is why I asked about any preparations on host for using uml_switch |
| 08:39 | lynx | Wand: hum.. don't know |
| 08:39 | lynx | Wand: I'm using 2.6 kernels |
| 08:40 | Wand | lynx: anyway thanks for your help! |
| 08:41 | lynx | Wand: do you have the uml_switch running ? |
| 08:41 | lynx | Wand: eth0=daemon should be enought if you don't have multimple switches |
| 08:42 | Wand | "# ps -ax|grep uml_switch" gives "14312 pts/3 S 0:00 uml_switch -unix /tmp/net.ctl" |
| 08:42 | lynx | Wand: ls -l /tmp/net.ctl ? |
| 08:42 | Wand | srwxrwxr-x 1 uml uml 0 Apr 18 17:08 /tmp/net.ctl |
| 08:43 | Wand | is it correct? |
| 08:46 | Wand | lynx: what kernel 2.6.x are u using? |
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| 08:59 | lynx | Wand: 2.6.11.3 |
| 08:59 | lynx | Wand: it seems correct. user and group uml have access |
| 08:59 | lynx | Wand: do you launch your uml with user uml or group uml ? |
| 09:00 | Wand | lynx: did u use skas patch for 2.6.11.3? |
| 09:00 | lynx | Wand: type "id" as command |
| 09:00 | lynx | Wand: yes, skas patch applied |
| 09:00 | Wand | what skas patch version did u apply? |
| 09:01 | Wand | i found only skas-2.6.7-v1 |
| 09:03 | lynx | http://www.user-mode-linux.org/~blaisorblade/patches/skas3-2.6/ |
| 09:05 | lynx | but I'm having some troubles as well: |
| 09:05 | lynx | I get segfaults for some programs in the guest OS |
| 09:05 | lynx | these are: bind, apache2, slapd |
| 09:05 | lynx | but only when I'm using a debian linux |
| 09:05 | lynx | it works with gentoo |
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| 10:13 | jdike | hi guys |
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| 13:52 | Squink | ok - so anyone got any tips for assigning uml to an outgoing IP address? |
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| 14:41 | Newsome | Squink: tips for assigning IPs? Can you use DHCP? |
| 14:43 | Squink | Newsome: All I really want to do is make sure my external IP (66.36.255.etc) goes to tap0 or 10.0.0.101 |
| 14:43 | Squink | unfortunately i'm getting mega confused :) |
| 14:44 | Newsome | okay. is the 66.36.* address your host's IP? |
| 14:44 | Squink | yep |
| 14:45 | Newsome | and your UML is 10.0.0.101? |
| 14:45 | Squink | yep |
| 14:47 | Newsome | The host will probably need an IP on the same subnet as the 10.* address, otherwise the host won't be able to communicate with the UML |
| 14:48 | Squink | would it help if i showed you my route -n ? |
| 14:48 | jdike | Newsome: you can do that with appropriate routing |
| 14:48 | Newsome | hmm, true |
| 14:50 | | * Squink ponders |
| 14:52 | Squink | well how does everyone else get their uml boxes on the internet? |
| 14:52 | Newsome | I've used bridging and proxy-arp |
| 14:57 | | * Squink ponders |
| 14:57 | Squink | This strikes me as something that should be really easy. |
| 15:03 | Newsome | Squink: on the host, what have you set up? Did you just create the tap device, or did you do any other configuration of it? |
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| 15:04 | Squink | at the moment, arp, tap and route should be set up |
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| 15:06 | Newsome | Squink: Here's a script I've used to set up the networking: http://uml.tuxrocks.com/tmp/uml_net |
| 15:06 | | * Squink has a look |
| 15:14 | Squink | hmm |
| 15:14 | Squink | what do i need to change in it to assign it to the ip? |
| 15:17 | Newsome | should be enough to just set the ARP_UML_IP, MASK, and BCAST (and UMID if you want to use a different name & tuntap device) |
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| 17:12 | Squink | ah jees |
| 17:12 | Squink | open - cannot create /tmp/vm_file-qNyqRR: Read-only file system |
| 17:12 | Squink | it's just one problem after another =/ |
| 17:16 | caker | Squink: TMPDIR env var could help there |
| 17:16 | caker | Squink: also, you'll get a bit of a performance boost if TMPDIR is a tmpfs volume |
| 17:17 | | * Squink looks |
| 17:18 | Squink | right |
| 17:18 | Squink | why would /tmp suddenly become read only? =/ |
| 17:22 | Squink | also, TMPDIR isn't making any difference =/ |
| 17:23 | caker | the error still points to /tmp/ ? |
| 17:24 | Squink | ./linux-2.6.11 ubd0=fedora-core1.disk con0=fd:0,fd:1 con=null root=98:0 eth0=tuntap,,,66.36.255.64 TMPDIR=/dev/shm |
| 17:24 | Squink | open - cannot create /tmp/vm_file-UoQgsf: Read-only file system |
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| 17:25 | caker | try TMP instead of TMPDIR |
| 17:26 | Squink | no difference |
| 17:26 | Squink | /tmp shouldnt be read only anyway |
| 17:26 | caker | I use "TMP=/path/to/tmpfs/mount ./linux [args]"... works for me<tm> |
| 17:26 | caker | is your /tmp mounted noexec? |
| 17:27 | Squink | nope |
| 17:27 | | * Squink remounts |
| 17:28 | Squink | hrm |
| 17:28 | Squink | works again. Oh well. back to figuring out how to get my networking .. working.. |
| 17:30 | Squink | which is to say, it isn't. |
| 17:30 | Squink | caker: would you mind if i ran something past you? |
| 17:31 | caker | !bridging-howto? |
| 17:31 | linbot | http://edeca.net/articles/bridging/ |
| 17:31 | caker | ^-- read that -- good stuff |
| 17:31 | caker | Squink: shoot |
| 17:33 | Squink | caker: I'll read this first just in case ;) |
| 17:48 | Squink | ok |
| 17:48 | Squink | I think i have this but I'm going to ask anyway; |
| 17:49 | Squink | I have Host IP (66.36.255.x) which I want to act as the ip for the UML. I'm pretty sure this can be pulled off without bridging, but i don't know. UML has a 0.0.0.0 > 10.0.0.100 gateway. Host has 10.0.0.101 > 0.0.0.0 |
| 17:50 | Squink | so what am I missing in order to get this to work.. |
| 17:50 | Squink | 10.0.0.101 is setup on tap0 |
| 17:50 | Squink | 66.36.255.x is current on eth0 |
| 17:51 | Squink | *currently |
| 17:55 | caker | NAT stuff on the host? |
| 17:55 | Squink | Guess so |
| 17:55 | Squink | ibh, my knowledge on routing is sketchy |
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| 18:04 | Squink | Alright, I give up. |
| 18:04 | Squink | This makes no sense anymore. |
| 18:05 | Squink | hh |
| 18:05 | Squink | *heh |
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| 18:09 | Squink | caker: in this bridging guide, i'd replace uml-conn0 with tap0? |
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| 19:24 | Squink | alright |
| 19:25 | Squink | now that I've locked myself out of my server three times :) |
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