| --- | Log | opened Wed Apr 06 00:00:30 2005 |
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| 08:54 | _PiGreco_ | i found an uml bug |
| 08:54 | _PiGreco_ | 2.4.27 version |
| 08:58 | _PiGreco_ | nobody cares |
| 08:58 | _PiGreco_ | good. |
| 09:03 | zigger | not that I could do anything about it, but I was mildly interested in hearing what it is |
| 09:04 | _PiGreco_ | i dont know why it happens, but it seems to be a vfs problem, occurring in iget() function |
| 09:05 | _PiGreco_ | i'll try to tell it to jdike, if he shows up, but it will be difficult |
| 09:05 | _PiGreco_ | last time i tried to contact him i got no response. |
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| 09:09 | _PiGreco_ | mh it seems i have to move my testing platform from uml to qemu |
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| 09:10 | _PiGreco_ | its a shame, uml is much quicker than qemu but with this problem i cant go on. |
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| 09:54 | bodo | hi all |
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| 09:58 | jdike | hi guys |
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| 10:03 | _PiGreco_ | hello jdike |
| 10:03 | _PiGreco_ | i have a weird problem on iget() in uml |
| 10:03 | _PiGreco_ | spent days in debugging |
| 10:04 | _PiGreco_ | and the weird happens |
| 10:04 | _PiGreco_ | interested ? |
| 10:05 | jdike | _PiGreco_: interested in debugging your code? not really |
| 10:05 | _PiGreco_ | ahah |
| 10:05 | _PiGreco_ | it seems to be an uml code |
| 10:05 | _PiGreco_ | s/code/bug/ |
| 10:05 | jdike | _PiGreco_: i.e. my bug? |
| 10:06 | _PiGreco_ | i dont know so well uml internals |
| 10:06 | _PiGreco_ | not enough to judge |
| 10:06 | _PiGreco_ | what happens is |
| 10:06 | _PiGreco_ | iget() calls iget4_locked() ok ? |
| 10:07 | _PiGreco_ | remember that part of vfs? |
| 10:07 | jdike | _PiGreco_: OK |
| 10:07 | _PiGreco_ | ok, i put a breakpoint just after iget4_locked() |
| 10:08 | _PiGreco_ | inspecting inode struct returned i can see it is a new inode |
| 10:08 | _PiGreco_ | but inode->i_state is = 0 |
| 10:08 | _PiGreco_ | then going on there is an if() |
| 10:08 | _PiGreco_ | checking against I_NEW and I_LOCK |
| 10:09 | _PiGreco_ | still ok ? |
| 10:09 | _PiGreco_ | mh wrong |
| 10:10 | _PiGreco_ | just I_NEW |
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| 10:10 | _PiGreco_ | do u follow me ? |
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| 10:11 | jdike | _PiGreco_: the thing is, there's no UML-specific code there |
| 10:12 | _PiGreco_ | ok but the thing is that if() fails (inode->i_state is 0) but *immediately* after that if, just before the return, inode->i_state is 72 |
| 10:12 | _PiGreco_ | but nobody touched it |
| 10:12 | _PiGreco_ | i was wondering if it could be a thread sync problem but i have *no idea* on how the uml patch works |
| 10:13 | _PiGreco_ | maybe i am thinking the wrong thing.. |
| 10:13 | jdike | _PiGreco_: you've checked that the value of inode is the same? |
| 10:13 | _PiGreco_ | of course i did |
| 10:14 | _PiGreco_ | i just imagined the inode struct could have been filled up by another thread and there was a sync problem or similar |
| 10:14 | _PiGreco_ | is that possible or i have to look somewhere else ? |
| 10:19 | jdike | _PiGreco_: no |
| 10:19 | _PiGreco_ | "no" not possible or "no" dont look somewhere else ? |
| 10:21 | jdike | not possible |
| 10:22 | _PiGreco_ | mh ok..i wonder what is the one who changes that value then. |
| 10:22 | jdike | somewhere in that code |
| 10:24 | _PiGreco_ | there is not that much to check..it is just *inode = iget4_locked() and then if(inode && (inode->i_state & I_NEW)) |
| 10:27 | bodo | hi jdike |
| 10:29 | jdike | Hi bodo, got your patches, haven't looked at them yet |
| 10:29 | _PiGreco_ | ok thanks for support. |
| 10:34 | bodo | jdike: np. Have to solve the compiler problem before going forward. That might need some time |
| 10:36 | andyp | mornin all |
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| 10:42 | andyp | werd newsome |
| 10:43 | Newsome | hi |
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| 10:48 | andyp | so lets say i have a base centos isntall. i can just tar it up and then make another root_fs and mount it, dump it and be fine? |
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| 11:14 | andyp | how can i tar and not specify a directory to be tarred? |
| 11:14 | andyp | such as /home |
| 11:15 | timster | --exclude=/home |
| 11:15 | andyp | so tar -cvf --exclude=/home centos.tar /* |
| 11:15 | andyp | or --exclude after |
| 11:16 | timster | tar -cjf /all.tbz2 / --exclude=/home |
| 11:16 | timster | tar -cjf /all.tbz2 / --exclude=/home --exclude=/all.tbz2 |
| 11:16 | andyp | ah there we go. was gonna ask |
| 11:16 | andyp | if it tars up /* it's going to tar itself up |
| 11:16 | andyp | haha. |
| 11:17 | timster | :} |
| 11:17 | andyp | then after this i guess i have some tweaking to do on the filesystem |
| 11:17 | andyp | i know it's just not gonna boot up :-/ |
| 11:18 | jdike | andyp: change device names in fstab and maybe inittab and securetty |
| 11:19 | jdike | andyp: make sure that /dev has whatever UML devices you need |
| 11:19 | andyp | yeah i've been having issues with "no more procseses left in this runlevel etc." |
| 11:19 | jdike | andyp: and that should do it |
| 11:19 | andyp | ok. thx jdike |
| 11:20 | andyp | it's be nice to get this centos thing going |
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| 11:30 | andyp | what should the dev's be called in inittab and securetty? |
| 11:30 | andyp | nothing? |
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| 12:10 | _PiGreco_ | jdike: it *has* to be an uml problem, no way. My code works with a non-uml kernel, gdb tells me the inode->i_state value is set in the wrong moment |
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| 12:14 | spike | hi there |
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| 13:32 | andyp | should i just MAKEDEV for ubd/0 in this new fs? |
| 13:33 | Newsome | andyp: something like this - http://www.theshore.net/~caker/uml/makeUBDdev.sh |
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| 13:34 | andyp | cool |
| 13:34 | Newsome | I'd just create /dev/ubd[abc] or whatever you need |
| 13:34 | andyp | just ubd/0 and 1 |
| 13:34 | Newsome | This is for Centos 4, right? |
| 13:34 | andyp | 3.4 |
| 13:35 | andyp | but centos, yes |
| 13:36 | Newsome | yeah, just use the script to give you an idea on how to create the few devices you need |
| 13:41 | andyp | Finding module dependencies: depmod: Can't open /lib/modules/2.4.27-1um/modules.dep for writing |
| 13:42 | andyp | er. |
| 13:43 | andyp | /dev/ubd/0 is mounted. Checking all file systems. |
| 13:43 | andyp | [/sbin/fsck.ext3 (1) -- /] fsck.ext3 -a /dev/ubd/0 |
| 13:43 | andyp | e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting. |
| 13:43 | andyp | hrm. wonder what the deal is |
| 13:44 | andyp | whoa. the box just died |
| 13:44 | andyp | no fun |
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| 13:52 | bodo | Bye. |
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| 14:16 | zigger | can anyone tell me what I need to do to get UML running in the same console that it's called from? I assume I need to mess around with my inittab some more. |
| 14:17 | Newsome | zigger: command line: con0=fd:0,fd:1 con=null |
| 14:17 | zigger | sweet. thanks |
| 14:17 | Newsome | zigger: inside inittab, make tty0 work |
| 14:19 | zigger | worked like a charm. thanks again |
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| 14:24 | pkh | can someone suggest a place to go for an introduction and walkthrough? I looked around and uml.sf.nt most stuff seems to be circa 02, uml.org looks empty, harlowhill is dead... Can soemone point me in the right direction? |
| 14:31 | zigger | I think most of the best information on the web is on that sourceforge site |
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| 14:41 | pkh | zigger: k, will continue there. I'm looking for a newer rootfs to work with but everything seems to be dated 2002? am I on the wrong track? |
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| 15:48 | zigger | pkh: I recall the gentoo website having some up-to-date info on how to get gentoo running under UML. I've been working with debian, using the root filesystems that are linked to on that sourceforge UML page. They're not in the main list with the rest of them, but a link to them is nearby. |
| 15:49 | zigger | both of those distros make it easy enough to get all your software up to date, so it shouldn't matter how old the file image is |
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| 15:53 | [bman] | I've been looking for infomation on networking two or more uml's together, and I can think of a few ways to do it, but I was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction? |
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| 15:58 | [bman] | For instance, would I have to make two tunnels, bridge them and then add them to the arguments of my uml kernel? I would eventually run out of tun's to link multipule uml's together, so that isn't a good one... |
| 16:00 | Newsome | [bman]: Just connect everything to the bridge, then you're only using one tuntap device for each UML |
| 16:03 | [bman] | Newsome, Im setting up a test network for some snmp stuff. I have a uml that manages the gateway/router stuff, that is bridged to the host's network (yes, I've setup ebtables to make sure bad stuff doesn't happen), so I guess what I am asking is: I would like another nic on the gateway uml that will host a bridge (actually a switch using brctl) for connectivity to the other uml's on that network. |
| 16:05 | Newsome | [bman]: To add another nic to the UML, just put another eth section onto the command line |
| 16:07 | [bman] | ok, but the eth argument needs a transport. so I would have to create another tap (say tap5 as the gateway's internal nic). back on the host computer bridge tap5 -> tap[6-9] (for the switch) and use tap[6-9] for the hosts on the 'vitual network'? |
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| 16:07 | pkh | zigger: cheers, I've got it running now, with a gentoo install -- now building the networking support into the kernel. thanks |
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| 16:09 | Newsome | [bman]: not sure. I haven't tried anything like that. |
| 16:09 | [bman] | yea. me neither. I've used uml for lots of other things, but I don't have enough crappy computers, or money for the power bill to do this kind of testing. |
| 16:10 | [bman] | I was thinking of using the host as the gateway, but it's also my dev box. |
| 16:11 | [bman] | ok. well if I figure it out I will post a tutorial on the usermodelinux.org tips ;) |
| 16:12 | Newsome | [bman]: I've just done one (or two) eth? arguments to each UML, then connected them all to the bridge. |
| 16:12 | Newsome | Or the proxy-arp method. |
| 16:12 | [bman] | yea, i'm actually using the proxy-arp stuff |
| 16:13 | [bman] | Thanks Newsome. I'll have to experiment for a little bit. |
| 16:13 | Newsome | sorry. Good luck :) |
| 16:14 | [bman] | I will probably be back with results (probably only if they are good :-D ) |
| 16:18 | klpowell | Is it possible to change the amount of ram the UML has while it is still running? |
| 16:23 | [bman] | mem= |
| 16:24 | [bman] | klpowell, check out the arguments on this session: http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/login.html |
| 16:26 | klpowell | [bman] i mean when the UMl is running currently is it possible to change it without rebooting? |
| 16:26 | Newsome | klpowell: I don't think it is currently possible |
| 16:28 | klpowell | Ok thanks I had remembered reading on one of the host that they can upgrade your ram without a reboot and I coudln't find how |
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| 18:20 | [bman] | ;) still running. I guess I didn't notice that part. |
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