TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#uml:2005:03:29

---	Log	opened Tue Mar 29 00:00:33 2005
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04:55	Shaun	david: ?
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06:13	_PiGreco_	hello
06:13	_PiGreco_	does anyone has any idea on why when i run uml with debug the gdb session hangs before giving me the prompt ?
06:14	_PiGreco_	kernel is hanged
06:14	_PiGreco_	gdb is hanged
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06:14	_PiGreco_	cant do anything but ^C the gdb session
06:14	_PiGreco_	and if i do it i get complainings about error ptraceing some unexisting processes
06:15	_PiGreco_	any hint?
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08:14	_PiGreco_	uff, to debug the uml gdb i have to write a kernel patch??
08:14	_PiGreco_	its not possible..
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08:53	_PiGreco_	mh probably nobody will never read my lines here
08:53	_PiGreco_	but anyway
08:54	_PiGreco_	hangs occurs because gdb is stopped
08:54	_PiGreco_	waiting for something (what ??)
08:54	_PiGreco_	and when i get it awake i get error messaging gdb gets ptraceing some process
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11:31	infowolfe	didn't uml get added to the main kernel tree?
11:32	Newsome	ya
11:36		* infowolfe points at the topic
11:37	infowolfe	Newsome, if you ctcp version me, you'll see my kernel version :-)
11:38	infowolfe	i'd like to run uml without downgrading my host kernel if at all possible
11:38	caker	sounds kinky
11:38	infowolfe	heh
11:38	infowolfe	spank me, patch me, just don't Oops me?
11:38	infowolfe	:)
11:39	Newsome	You shouldn't have to downgrade your host kernel to run UML. I'm currently running on 2.6.12-rc1-bk1 without problem
11:40	infowolfe	hrm..
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11:40	Newsome	If you want better host performance, you can patch the host with SKAS, but that doesn't require a kernel downgrade
11:41	infowolfe	probably a good idea
11:41	infowolfe	Newsome, may i /msg?
11:41	Newsome	okay
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11:50	b1rkoff	hi
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12:14	b1rkoff	hello
12:15	infowolfe	hi
12:15	b1rkoff	hi use uml?
12:15	b1rkoff	hji
12:16	infowolfe	not yet
12:16	infowolfe	i've used it in the past, but not since 2.5 was new ;-)
12:18	b1rkoff	really
12:18	b1rkoff	is it any good?
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12:49	Newsome	okay, infowolfe. Patch is at http://uml.tuxrocks.com/tmp/skas-2.6.11-mm4-v9-pre1.patch
12:49	infowolfe	thanks much
12:50	Newsome	It _should_ apply cleanly :)
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12:58	infowolfe	any kernel hackers in here other than Newsome? :-) don't want to bother him too badly
13:00	infowolfe	http://xhcl.net/2.6.11-mm4-skas_0.log if anybody can help, this is mm4 + Newsome's v9-pre1
13:03	caker	infowolfe: why -mm ?
13:03	infowolfe	acpi
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13:05	infowolfe	hopefully i can find something later today that does the trick for me
13:05	infowolfe	thanks for the help all, i should be back in a few hours
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15:44	JMPowell	Does anyone else have I/O problems with there UML's?
15:54	timster	hmm, you mean, like slow disk io?
15:54	timster	do you have your guests compiled with sync always on disk io?
15:55	timster	that slows things down a bit..
15:55	JMPowell	yes i do is it safe to turn that off?
15:55	JMPowell	i run rieserfs filesystem
15:56	timster	yes
15:56	timster	:}
15:57	JMPowell	There was a warning in the patch config so i wasn't sure :)
15:57	timster	:}
15:57	timster	I havent had any problems.
15:57	timster	(insert standard disclaimer here)
15:57	timster	:}
15:57	JMPowell	Thanks i'll give that a try on a test uml and see how it runs
15:57	timster	:}
15:58	JMPowell	If i understand it right the only time there could be a problem is a host server crash correct? But then again i guess that is a problem no matter if you ahe disksync on or not
16:02	timster	:}
16:02	timster	yes, but remember, if you host disks are journalled, you have some protection there.
16:02	JMPowell	Host disk is ext3
16:03	timster	and if you do crash, just make sure you do a fsck on the guest disks before booting them.
16:03	timster	(actually, booting guests will cause an fsck first anyways)
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16:06	JMPowell	i can see the diffence already thanks alot
16:06	timster	:}
16:06	timster	by the way, have you read the howto?
16:06	JMPowell	yeah
16:07	JMPowell	I just wasn't sure when i saw that warning if it was actually safe to do
16:07	timster	:}
16:07	timster	uml is pretty solid.
16:07	timster	:}
16:07	JMPowell	it didn't matter if i ran 1 uml or 10 it was having horrible I/O spikes where i would get my connction droped
16:08	timster	:}
16:08	JMPowell	I knew it had to be I/O since CPU and RAM usage where staying low
16:08	timster	:}
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16:23	JMPowell	Thanks again its nice to see it when you boot a UML the other ones Load Averages don't spike :)
16:23	timster	:}
16:43	_PiGreco_	could anyone help me with a gdb problem ?
16:44	_PiGreco_	starting uml with debug option
16:44	_PiGreco_	i get gdb and uml hanged
16:45	_PiGreco_	any hint ?
16:49	_PiGreco_	no hints. good.
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16:56	mikegrb	_PiGreco_: loko can help you
16:56		* mikegrb runs
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16:57	_PiGreco_	can he ? :)
16:57	mikegrb	yes
16:58	_PiGreco_	loko: alive ?
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17:03	_PiGreco_	no :)
17:14	loko	why can i help
17:14	_PiGreco_	oh here you are
17:15	_PiGreco_	dunno, mikegrb said you could give me some hint
17:15	_PiGreco_	i have a problem running uml with debug option
17:19	loko	i never ran it with the debug option
17:20	_PiGreco_	good. probably mikegrb is having fun then :)
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