| --- | Log | opened Thu Mar 10 00:01:02 2005 |
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| 02:27 | JViz | do i need to add a route some where so that incoming connections can connect to the UML using the TUN/TAP adapter? |
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| 05:12 | spike | 'morning |
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| 05:20 | chetansk | hi, I am looking for pre-built UML for 2.6 |
| 05:20 | chetansk | do someone any url for that |
| 05:20 | chetansk | 2.4 uml fails with "Kernel panic: outer trampoline didn't exit with SIGKILL" |
| 05:22 | chetansk | I have UML-2.4.19 UML |
| 05:22 | chetansk | is some on list ?? |
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| 05:27 | chetansk | isnt there any one active ?? |
| 05:29 | spike | chetansk: not likely. the channel is silent most of the time but for some dev-guys conversations |
| 05:31 | --- | Channel: services.oftc.net changed the topic of #uml to: Welcome to #UML - current releases: 2.4.27-um1 | 2.4.24-um1 (rock solid) | 2.6.9-bs5 | http://user-mode-linux.sf.net (Mainpage) | http://www.usermodelinux.org (communitypage) | http://www.user-mode-linux.org/~blaisorblade/ (SKAS/guest -bb and -bs patches) | http://uml.harlowhill.com/ (Wiki page for documentation) |
| 05:33 | chetansk | I was looking for some help in running UML, |
| 05:33 | chetansk | is it the right place to ask questions on this |
| 05:33 | chetansk | spike ?? |
| 05:35 | spike | chetansk: technically it is, practically it isn't for the little activity. subscribe and post on the mailing list, that's really active. |
| 05:35 | chetansk | spike, just one question, I am running 2.6.9 kernel |
| 05:35 | chetansk | spike: which UML version is better to start with. |
| 05:36 | chetansk | spike: I could get uml 2.4.19 rpm |
| 05:36 | chetansk | but this do not work :-( |
| 05:36 | spike | chetansk: the last posts I saw suggested lastest, 2.6.11. besides that I'm running 2.6.9 here on a 2.4.26 host |
| 05:36 | spike | and it works good |
| 05:36 | spike | also have some 2.4.24 |
| 05:37 | spike | chetansk: as the topic suggests it's the (rock solid) one |
| 05:37 | chetansk | well, let me try them |
| 05:37 | spike | I'm off now, I'll be back in a couple of hours |
| 05:37 | chetansk | spike: I shall try both 2.4.24 and 2.4.26 |
| 05:38 | spike | chetansk: as I said, host 2.4.26 / guest 2.4.24/2.6.9 work for me |
| 05:38 | chetansk | spike: BTW where do I get the pre-built uml of 2.4.24 and 26 |
| 05:39 | spike | chetansk: I compiled it myself... debian has some but pretty much outdated. u can look on user-mode-linux.sf.net, dowload section |
| 05:39 | chetansk | I have host 2.6.9 |
| 05:39 | | * spike coughs outdated site / lack of a strong web reference coughs |
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| 05:39 | spike | chetansk: dude, I'm off. sry |
| 05:40 | chetansk | spike: bye |
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| 06:36 | Guy- | woohoo. SAP finally runs in UML. :) |
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| 09:46 | spike | chetansk: |
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| 09:53 | jdike | hi guys |
| 09:55 | spike | hi jdike |
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| 09:59 | treestone | # uptime |
| 09:59 | treestone | 15:59:18 up 92 days, 15:38, 1 user, load average: 0.08, 0.02, 0.01 |
| 09:59 | treestone | debian:/# uname -a |
| 09:59 | treestone | Linux debian.spacetec.no 2.4.24-1um #1 Mon Mar 1 18:23:10 PST 2004 i686 unknown |
| 10:00 | treestone | I'm just too happy with that old stable version.. thus I haven't been hanging out here much resently :-) |
| 10:01 | treestone | s/s/c/ |
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| 12:44 | bodo | Hi all |
| 12:45 | jdike | Hi bodo |
| 12:45 | bodo | jdike: hi jdike |
| 12:46 | bodo | jdike: I'm wondering, if it is ok, that clone.o is a kernel-obj? |
| 12:49 | jdike | bodo: no, should be userspace |
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| 13:54 | JViz | hey jdike, Aiken helped me successfully get networking working with UML on my multihomed box |
| 13:55 | JViz | what i needed to do was have eth0:1 up and give tap the same address as eth0:1, and then give the UML a completely diff address on the same subnet with the default route to the tap/eth0:1 address |
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| 13:56 | JViz | i also needed to do bash -c 'echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward' |
| 13:57 | JViz | even tho i was using the tun/tap helper |
| 14:21 | bodo | jdike: I just rechecked my s390 syscall table |
| 14:22 | bodo | jdike: sys_nfsservctl isn't inserted, because CONFIG_NFSD is checked, but CONFIG_NFSD_MODULE isn't |
| 14:22 | bodo | jdike: is this correct? |
| 14:40 | bodo | jdike: shouldn't sys_nfsservctl be inserted in case of (CONFIG_NFSD | CONFIG_NFSD_MODULE)? |
| 14:41 | bodo | jdike: I guess, sys_call_table.c is wrong |
| 14:58 | bodo | Bye |
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| 15:02 | JViz | how do i route incoming connections from eth0 to the tap/tun adapter? |
| 15:02 | Newsome | attach them both to a bridge |
| 15:03 | JViz | i can't |
| 15:03 | JViz | i'm not allowed to use promiscuous mode on the network |
| 15:05 | Newsome | use the arp proxy method then |
| 15:07 | JViz | i did this: arp -Ds 10.10.11.51 eth0:1 pub |
| 15:07 | JViz | is that enough to make it receive all the incoming packets that hit eth0:1? |
| 15:08 | JViz | you know what |
| 15:08 | JViz | i might have it backwards, huh? |
| 15:09 | JViz | i want .24 to recieve packets for .51 and forward them |
| 15:09 | JViz | i am working with a firewall tho |
| 15:09 | JViz | the firewall sees .24 as the open connection and forwards packets for .24 |
| 15:09 | Newsome | the format would be: arp -Ds ${IP_INSIDE_UML} ${HOST_DEVICE} pub |
| 15:10 | JViz | what i really want, probably, is to have packet for .51 forwaded by the firewall, yeah? |
| 15:10 | JViz | yeah, that's the format that i used |
| 15:10 | JViz | i have this on my host |
| 15:10 | JViz | eth0:1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:D0:B7:89:21:F3 |
| 15:10 | JViz | inet addr:10.10.11.24 Bcast:10.10.11.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 |
| 15:11 | Newsome | you created the tuntap with tunctl? |
| 15:11 | JViz | tap0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:FF:44:91:D1:CE |
| 15:11 | JViz | inet addr:10.10.11.24 Bcast:10.10.11.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 |
| 15:12 | Newsome | added the route: route add -host 10.10.11.51 dev tap0 |
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| 15:12 | JViz | server1 root # route |
| 15:12 | JViz | Kernel IP routing table |
| 15:12 | JViz | Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface |
| 15:12 | JViz | 10.10.11.51 * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 tap0 |
| 15:12 | JViz | 10.10.11.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 15:12 | JViz | 10.10.11.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 tap0 |
| 15:12 | JViz | loopback localhost 255.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 lo |
| 15:12 | Newsome | and: echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/tap0/proxy_arp |
| 15:12 | JViz | default firewall 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 15:12 | JViz | yes |
| 15:12 | JViz | yes |
| 15:13 | Newsome | okay, sounds good so far |
| 15:13 | JViz | the UML can ping out and connect to the internet and everything |
| 15:13 | JViz | my problem is incoming connections |
| 15:13 | JViz | i'm being a NAT firewall |
| 15:13 | JViz | the UML IP is .51 right now |
| 15:14 | JViz | i have all the packets being forwarded to .24, because that's the tap0 and eth0:1 |
| 15:14 | Newsome | you can't hit .51 from outside |
| 15:14 | JViz | right |
| 15:14 | JViz | do i wanna forward to .51, even tho it's not a real adapter? |
| 15:16 | Newsome | the routing table ought to make that work |
| 15:16 | Newsome | is it an iptables thing on the host machine? |
| 15:16 | JViz | my machine will just intercept everything for .51 and forward it to the UML? |
| 15:16 | JViz | the NAT router? no |
| 15:16 | Newsome | yeah, that's how the proxy arp thing should work |
| 15:16 | JViz | it's a seperate machine in the data center |
| 15:17 | JViz | i'm in a colo |
| 15:17 | JViz | which is why i can't use promiscuous mode :) |
| 15:17 | gorpon | brctl rox tho |
| 15:17 | Newsome | okay, so on the firewall machine, you want to forward something to the UML |
| 15:17 | JViz | yeah, but the pipe would nuke my adapter |
| 15:17 | Newsome | Yeah, just point it at the right IP |
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| 15:18 | JViz | ok |
| 15:18 | JViz | cool |
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| 15:40 | spike | I'm off, later all |
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| 15:41 | JViz | YES |
| 15:41 | JViz | that was it |
| 15:41 | JViz | i had the IP's backwards |
| 15:42 | JViz | i needed to use .24 in the UML since i was given .24 has being forwarded through the colo firewall |
| 15:42 | JViz | YAY |
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| 15:45 | dirac | If I might inquire, does UML function with the hppa kernel tree? |
| 15:46 | HIghoS | I don't believe it was ever ported, no. |
| 15:46 | HIghoS | (only ports I've heard of are x86-64 which is active, and ppc which isn't) |
| 15:46 | dirac | Darn. I got hopeful when I saw Debian's hppa branch contained the uml-utilities package and kernel source. Ah well. |
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| 15:48 | jdike | HIghoS: there is actually some ppc work |
| 15:48 | jdike | HIghoS: just quiet |
| 15:48 | dirac | Thanks for the info HIghoS. |
| 15:49 | JViz | if you're running a COW fs and you delete a file that's in the root fs, how does the COW fs deal with it? it doesn't delete the file in the root fs, right? |
| 15:50 | JViz | i mean, you delete it from a UML that's on a cow fs, but the file is part of the root fs image |
| 15:51 | JViz | it has it's own inode table or something? and it just deletes it's own entry for it? |
| 15:53 | Newsome | JViz: it doesn't modify the backing file, just the cow, so it marks the inode as available again. |
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| 16:01 | JViz | ah, ok |
| 16:01 | JViz | thanks |
| 16:09 | HIghoS | jdike: Really? Great. |
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| 16:40 | JViz | what's the normal way to limit cpu usage of a UML? ulimit? |
| 16:43 | timster | usually, the question is, why do that? |
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| 16:49 | Aiken | you could always nice it |
| 16:52 | JViz | because the UML i'm making is for doing dev stuff |
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| 16:53 | JViz | something could get in an infinite loop and eat all the cpu power |
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| 16:58 | Newsome | JViz: that could slow things down a little, so run a recent 2.6.x kernel, and you'll probably be fine |
| 16:59 | Aiken | ulimit -t 5 would cause a process to be killed after it has used 5 seconds of cpu time |
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| 17:06 | JViz | wouldn't that blow up some large makes? |
| 17:06 | timster | the 2.6 kernel's scheduler balances things out. |
| 17:07 | timster | its pretty good in preventing thread starvation |
| 17:08 | Aiken | use a value larger than 5 seconds |
| 17:08 | Aiken | it is not real time, it is cpu time |
| 17:09 | JViz | yeah, so if the cpu runs the context for more than 5 sec in a row, it kills it |
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| 17:11 | Aiken | main() |
| 17:11 | Aiken | { |
| 17:11 | Aiken | while (4 < 5); |
| 17:11 | Aiken | } |
| 17:11 | Aiken | the above ulimit cmd would kill that process after 5 seconds |
| 17:11 | Aiken | it would be 5 seconds total |
| 17:12 | Aiken | for that process |
| 17:13 | JViz | oh |
| 17:14 | JViz | well i wouldn't want the UML to run for less than 5 seconds |
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| 17:17 | JViz | and the program that might be stuck in a loop is a MUD, which is in a loop anyways and has to run all the time |
| 17:17 | JViz | i really just need to find a way to keep a UML from eating up too much CPU util |
| 17:17 | Aiken | if you set ulimit from a terminal it only affects process run from that term |
| 17:17 | Aiken | look at nice |
| 17:19 | JViz | that's for thread priority, right? |
| 17:23 | Aiken | yes |
| 17:38 | JViz | is there a faq for nice somewhere? i'm looking on tldp but the search isn't so great, and google seems to be confused by the word "nice" |
| 17:42 | Aiken | info nice |
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| 17:44 | harry | Anyone home |
| 17:45 | JViz | i was reading that, but it doesn't talk about certain things, like what happens when two processes of the same niceness collide |
| 17:46 | JViz | the one who has less context switches wins? |
| 17:46 | Newsome | JViz: The scheduler will just schedule as normal between the two |
| 17:47 | Newsome | processes with lower nice values will still have priority over those of higher values |
| 17:47 | JViz | so at that point one of them will start to get strangled? |
| 17:47 | JViz | or both will slow down? |
| 17:48 | JViz | erm |
| 17:48 | JViz | i guess i really wanna know how the normal scheduler works then |
| 17:48 | JViz | which isn't in the scope of nice |
| 17:48 | JViz | thank you |
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| 18:00 | JViz | ah, looks like i was looking for verynice |
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| 18:06 | Aiken | I have killed a running uml 5 times in a row |
| 18:06 | Aiken | each time I was doing tar jxfv xorg-6.8.1.tar.bz2 |
| 18:08 | Newsome | any oops? |
| 18:10 | Aiken | make that 6 times |
| 18:10 | Newsome | Aiken: kernel panic or any info? |
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| 18:14 | Aiken | the last one was a std 2.6.11 and it just stopped responding, can not ping and no response on it's console |
| 18:14 | Aiken | the previous 5 were 2.6.11 + the incremental patches and was getting a strace with it |
| 18:15 | Aiken | the last one finally gave Tracing thread segfault at address 0x18, ip 0xa005a72f |
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| 18:15 | Aiken | a std 2.6.10 as the host |
| 18:17 | Newsome | Woohoo, jdike! Looks like Linus finally applied all 25 patches you sent! |
| 18:17 | Newsome | Time for another patchbomb! |
| 18:18 | Newsome | Aiken: Do you have debugging symbols enabled? |
| 18:19 | Aiken | in the one kernel, yes |
| 18:22 | Aiken | I have the call trace from crash #7, want it pasted? |
| 18:22 | Newsome | http://www.pastebin.com/ |
| 18:26 | Aiken | have not seen that site before, so just enter a name then dump the outoput in the text box? |
| 18:27 | Aiken | done |
| 18:39 | Newsome | http://www.pastebin.com/252829 |
| 18:40 | Aiken | yes |
| 18:41 | Newsome | odd |
| 18:41 | Newsome | So, are you getting panics in both TT and SKAS modes? |
| 18:42 | Aiken | a tsd 2.6.11 in tt mode just dies and requires a kill -9 to get that terminal back |
| 18:43 | Aiken | I'll the other kernel in tt mode now |
| 18:43 | Aiken | see if I get crash #9 |
| 18:43 | Newsome | Well, I'm probably not going to be able to help much, but if jdike is listening, he may be of more help |
| 18:44 | Aiken | the skas0 kernel just died in tt mode with no output |
| 18:46 | Aiken | crash #10 was 2.6.9-skas3-v8-rc1-bs7 |
| 18:47 | Newsome | that's _some_ tarball you've got there! :) |
| 18:48 | timster | guest and host? |
| 18:48 | Aiken | the host is happy with that tar ball |
| 18:48 | timster | in one tree? |
| 18:49 | Aiken | the host is 2.6.10 in it's own tree |
| 18:49 | Aiken | the guests, the above mentioned 2.6.9 and the 2 x 2.6.11 kernel are in their own tree |
| 18:49 | timster | are you applying the skas3 to the guest? I know you said skas0., but |
| 18:49 | timster | 2.6.9-skas3-v8-rc1-bs7 |
| 18:50 | timster | ? |
| 18:50 | Newsome | Aiken: what distro inside the UML? |
| 18:51 | Aiken | something that could have said to have been lfs 2 years ago |
| 18:53 | Aiken | if I chroot into the image from the host it works fine |
| 18:54 | Aiken | timster from http://www.user-mode-linux.org/~blaisorblade/ |
| 18:55 | timster | cool |
| 18:55 | Aiken | one of the 2.6.11 is std, the other has the incremental patches because I don't want to do anything to the host kernel |
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| 19:02 | Newsome | Aiken: just to make sure,... you don't have a /lib/tls directory inside the uml... |
| 19:04 | Aiken | ls: lib/tls: No such file or directory |
| 19:04 | Newsome | okay, just making sure... |
| 19:04 | Aiken | glibc 2.3.2 with linux-threads |
| 19:04 | | * Newsome will ponder on the drive home :) |
| 19:05 | Newsome | Aiken: have you ever gotten UML running on this filesystem before? |
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| 19:07 | Aiken | I am installing redhat 7.3 on another machine to make an image from to see what that does |
| 19:08 | | * Newsome heads home... |
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