TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#uml:2005:02:13

---	Log	opened Sun Feb 13 00:00:44 2005
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01:26	enum	hey.. is it possible for 2 umls to share a swap_fs?
01:35	HIghoS	Uh, no.
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10:02	---	Channel: services.oftc.net changed the topic of #uml to: Welcome to #UML - current releases: 2.4.27-um1 \| 2.4.24-um1 (rock solid) \| 2.6.9-bs5 \| http://user-mode-linux.sf.net (Mainpage) \| http://www.usermodelinux.org (communitypage) \| http://www.user-mode-linux.org/~blaisorblade/ (SKAS/guest -bb and -bs patches) \| http://uml.harlowhill.com/ (Wiki page for documentation)
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10:12	JViz	HI
10:14	JViz	is there any way to get a UML a public IP on my host without bridging on my NIC?
10:16	JViz	could i give my host a fake adapter like TAP adapter and then bridge with that and have linux route packets between the adapters?
10:18	JViz	i have 2 problems with the normally perscribed method of bridging
10:18	Newsome	ummm, that's how bridging works
10:18	JViz	well
10:18	JViz	then is there a way i can do it without putting eth0 in permiscous mode?
10:19	Newsome	use proxy arp instead
10:19	JViz	do you know of a howto/tutorial for doing that?
10:20	Newsome	It's described in http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/networking.html
10:21	Newsome	under "TUN/TAP with a preconfigured tap device"
10:21	Newsome	use the instructions for "Set up routing and arping if desired - this is my recipe, there are other ways of doing the same thing" instead of "Rather than using up two IPs and ARPing for one of them, you can also provide direct access to your LAN by the UML by using a bridge."
10:22	JViz	host# ifconfig eth0 0.0.0.0 promisc up
10:23	JViz	that puts my eth0 in promiscuous mode thereby: 1) disconnecting me from it;2) possibly overloading it since it's in a datacenter
10:24	Newsome	that's used when using bridging, but not proxy arp
10:25	JViz	OH
10:25	JViz	i think i see
10:25	JViz	that's a seperate set of instructions
10:25	JViz	thank you very much
10:25	Newsome	good luck
10:26	JViz	should i email the host of the site and ask him to put some kind of seperation there?
10:26	JViz	i was reading the whole thing thinking it was one set of instructions
10:27	JViz	you really helped me a whole lot, thanks
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10:40	jdike	hi guys
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11:34	rinaudo	I am trying to build a root file system manually, for centos3.4
11:34	rinaudo	I downloaded the installation CDs for x86_64
11:34	rinaudo	now I am realizing that the UML guest kernel is not able to boot the root filesystem, I assume because the binaries are x86_64 instead of i386
11:34	rinaudo	is there something I can do to build the guest kernel in order to work with a root filesystem based on x86_64 tather than i386?
11:35	jdike	rinaudo: my incrementals are the best best, but they're currently broken for x86_64
11:36	rinaudo	jdike: do I have to build the kernel with an argument like SUBARCh=x86_64?
11:37	jdike	rinaudo: if you were doing a cross-build, yes
11:37	rinaudo	jdike: so if I am in a native X86_64 system, there is no need to pass an argument like SUBARCH am I right?
11:38	jdike	rinaudo: right
11:39	rinaudo	jdike: and the day your patches will be working it will be automatic, no need to make a special config and my guest kernel build on a x86_64 will be able to boot both an i386 and a x86_64 root filesystem without problems, isnt't it?
11:39	rinaudo	jdike: is there something I am missing?
11:41	jdike	rinaudo: I need to get the 32-bit compat stuff in there, but yes
11:42	rinaudo	jdike: thank you very much for your clarification
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13:10		* caker tests skas-2.6.10-v8-rc2
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13:46	enum	ugh.. running multiple umls without skas hurts
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14:33	jdike	We will now have a moment of silence
14:34		* jdike has mixed feelings about high-uptime UMLs
14:35	caker	jdike: agreed.
14:35	jdike	On one hand, it's great that they stay up that long
14:35	caker	who knows if this thing will come up correctly
14:35	jdike	On the other hand, by now, they are obsolete
14:48	Newsome	jdike: a little update on this bug I'm trying to find...I think that just tty is getting freed/reused. I see several 'winch'es created with different addresses, and the rest of the data appears valid.
14:49	Newsome	but, each time that register_winch_irq is called, tty is the same address...
15:07	enum	jdike, any luck on that x86_64 patch? Im having kernel panics on one of my umls running in tt mode
15:07	enum	I would really like to get skas mode working ;D
15:18	jdike	Newsome: So, just when they're being created and freed
15:19	jdike	Newsome: and the stack from the free would be most interesting
15:20	Newsome	I haven't figured out just where they're being freed yet
15:20	Newsome	just debug it and put a breakpoint on kfree?
15:22	Newsome	know a way to only break on a kfree of a particular address?
15:36	jdike	Newsome: there's a tty_free or something
15:36	jdike	Newsome: that's a much better bet
15:37	jdike	Newsome: breakpoints on tty_alloc, tty_free, winch_interrupt
15:37	Newsome	okay, that sounds like a better idea
15:37	jdike	Newsome: see when a tty is allocated, when it is freed, when it is used
15:38	jdike	Newsome: if it is used after being freed, then stacks from the free and usage are needed
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---	Log	closed Sun Feb 13 17:24:54 2005