| --- | Log | opened Sat Feb 12 00:00:25 2005 |
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| 06:13 | --- | Channel: services.oftc.net changed the topic of #uml to: Welcome to #UML - current releases: 2.4.27-um1 | 2.4.24-um1 (rock solid) | 2.6.9-bs5 | http://user-mode-linux.sf.net (Mainpage) | http://www.usermodelinux.org (communitypage) | http://www.user-mode-linux.org/~blaisorblade/ (SKAS/guest -bb and -bs patches) | http://uml.harlowhill.com/ (Wiki page for documentation) |
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| 10:56 | the_hydra | hello |
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| 12:43 | jdike | hi guys |
| 12:43 | the_hydra | hello jeff |
| 12:44 | the_hydra | is there any 2.6.10 UML patch on sf page, jdike? |
| 12:44 | jdike | the_hydra: no need |
| 12:45 | jdike | the_hydra: unless you want the experimental patches, which are on .../patches.html |
| 12:45 | the_hydra | jdike: already included on mainline kernel, eh? |
| 12:45 | the_hydra | jdike: sory, sometimes I still think I am on 2.4.x |
| 12:45 | jdike | the_hydra: BTW, you figure out how to get > 2 telnet sessions? |
| 12:46 | the_hydra | toward where? UML instance? |
| 12:46 | the_hydra | so far I only did 2 at most |
| 12:46 | jdike | the_hydra: someone told you to enable more getty in inittab |
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| 12:46 | the_hydra | but I believe if rsh can be considered similar to telnet, I think I do more than two |
| 12:47 | the_hydra | jdike: hmm...i forgot when I ask about that, jeff |
| 12:47 | jdike | the_hydra: it's not |
| 12:48 | jdike | the_hydra: telnetting to a host port doesn't involve UML networking |
| 12:48 | jdike | the_hydra: those are physical consoles |
| 12:48 | the_hydra | jdike: because it connect directly inside UML instance? |
| 12:49 | jdike | the_hydra: yeah |
| 12:49 | the_hydra | btw jeff, i need to say to thank you for inventing UML because it helps me a lot on kernel study and simulating cluster |
| 12:51 | the_hydra | jdike: it is interesting to read on ur roadmap that you are going to create functionality so UML can be used to jail(?) apache or other kind of software so stack smashing to bring much trouble... |
| 12:52 | the_hydra | do I read it right? |
| 12:52 | jdike | the_hydra: you can do that already |
| 12:52 | jdike | the_hydra: apache inside UML |
| 12:52 | jdike | the_hydra: what I'm talking about is UML inside apache |
| 12:52 | the_hydra | oh i see, UML inside apache |
| 12:53 | jdike | the_hydra: for example, jailing mod_perl sessions |
| 12:54 | the_hydra | so, if there is security breach come from hacked perl script, it won't reach apache itself, am I right? |
| 12:54 | jdike | the_hydra: yes |
| 12:55 | jdike | the_hydra: now, you can't use mod_perl securely like this because it can potentially control the apache it's in |
| 12:55 | the_hydra | jdike: i see |
| 12:56 | the_hydra | anyway jeff, sysemu is now included in official UML? |
| 13:00 | jdike | the_hydra: support for it is |
| 13:02 | the_hydra | jdike: i see |
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| 13:05 | the_hydra | jeff, for timing purpose, how UML keep the time on guest stay sync-ed with the host? |
| 13:05 | jdike | the_hydra: it calls the host gettimeofday |
| 13:06 | jdike | hi luca_ |
| 13:06 | jdike | been playing with ppc? |
| 13:06 | the_hydra | every certain interval? 1 second? |
| 13:07 | jdike | the_hydra: whenever calls its gettimeofday |
| 13:07 | jdike | whenever someone |
| 13:08 | the_hydra | jdike: but surely, the kernel of UML running its own timer, right? |
| 13:09 | jdike | the_hydra: sure |
| 13:10 | the_hydra | jeff, what are the new stuff in UML recently, I am off from UML world almost 9-10 months ago |
| 13:12 | jdike | the_hydra: x86_64, ppc, skas0, AIO |
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| 13:14 | the_hydra | jdike: really? x86_64? damn, I need to check it out soon :D |
| 13:14 | the_hydra | so, AIO is officially marked as stable and usable now? |
| 13:14 | jdike | the_hydra: not yet |
| 13:14 | luca_ | hi jdike |
| 13:17 | the_hydra | jdike: so now, paolo gialarusso is ur number two man? :) |
| 13:18 | jdike | the_hydra: yup, bb is the man |
| 13:20 | the_hydra | jdike: i see... |
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| 13:54 | rinaudo | the_hydra: what do you mean for BlaisorBlade beeing the man? or #2? |
| 13:56 | rinaudo | jdike: do you mean man #2 as a contributor the the UML project? |
| 13:58 | jdike | rinaudo: yup |
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| 16:23 | enum | yo.. anyone been able to patch a 64bit kernel with the skas pathc? |
| 16:24 | enum | err patch |
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| 16:49 | | * jdike pushes out the current patches |
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| 17:06 | | * caker picks them up to test AIO |
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| 17:33 | enum | yo.. I cannot seem to compile the bzImage for 2.4.25 with the x86_64 skas patch installed |
| 17:33 | enum | anyone able to lend a hand on this one? |
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| 17:44 | enum | bleh |
| 17:47 | caker | jdike: hrm .. I'm unable to build 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 + incrementals |
| 17:47 | caker | LD arch/um/kernel/built-in.o |
| 17:47 | caker | make[1]: *** No rule to make target `arch/um/kernel/vmlinux.lds', needed by `__build'. Stop. |
| 17:48 | caker | make: *** [arch/um/kernel] Error 2 |
| 17:49 | enum | caker, have you ever tested uml on an x86_64? |
| 17:51 | caker | enum: nope |
| 17:51 | enum | while compiling bzImage after applying the skas x86)64 patch I get |
| 17:51 | enum | usercopy.c:68: error: invalid punctuation ` ' in constraint |
| 17:51 | enum | kernel 2.4.25 |
| 18:03 | enum | I think I found it |
| 18:03 | enum | usercopy.c line 66 in the comment |
| 18:04 | enum | for some reason it seems to have read it |
| 18:04 | enum | there was an apostraphe in the word don't ... I removed it and everything seems to be compiling fine now |
| 18:05 | enum | crap |
| 18:05 | enum | nvm |
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| 18:26 | jdike | caker: that would be cross-compile |
| 18:37 | enum | jdike. on http://lwn.net/Articles/83080/ you said "Note that this is separate from the 2.6.4 UML patch, and must be |
| 18:37 | enum | applied to a 2.6.4 + uml-patch-2.6.4 tree." |
| 18:37 | enum | which patch is that? |
| 18:40 | jdike | enum: judging from the version, that would be the x86_64 patch |
| 18:41 | enum | well I have that one.. and I have the kernel.. but you mentioned it had to be applied on top of an already patched kernel |
| 18:41 | enum | this is the one I have now uml-patch-x86-64-2.6.4.bz2 |
| 18:41 | enum | it fails to patch |
| 18:42 | enum | unless maybe you have a newer version of this patch available |
| 18:42 | jdike | enum: the sequence is - stock 2.6.4, uml-patch-2.6.4, uml-patch-x86-64-2.6.4 |
| 18:42 | enum | this link was from may 2004 |
| 18:42 | jdike | enum: well, x86_64 actually is up to date with 2.6.11-rc3-mm2 + my incrementals |
| 18:42 | jdike | enum: except it's broken today |
| 18:44 | enum | sdo I will apply this patch first --> uml-patch-2.6.4-1.bz2 then --> uml-patch-x86-64-2.6.4.bz2 |
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| 19:06 | enum | damn.. today is not my day with kernels |
| 19:07 | caker | rpm -Uvh http://ftp.freshrpms.net/pub/freshrpms/redhat/9/apt/apt-0.5.5cnc6-fr1.i386.rpm for apt |
| 19:07 | caker | whoops, wrong chan |
| 19:08 | jdike | caker: you'll get it from both sides with things like that |
| 19:08 | caker | jdike: get what? static? |
| 19:09 | jdike | caker: flamed |
| 19:09 | caker | heh |
| 19:09 | jdike | caker: the Debian people hate you for using RH/FC |
| 19:10 | jdike | caker: the RH/FC hate you for using apt |
| 19:10 | caker | jdike: well, tough for them :) -- apt is much better than paying for an up2date license or whatever |
| 19:10 | caker | if they still even do that |
| 19:11 | jdike | hehe |
| 19:12 | | * caker attempts to build again without cross-compile |
| 19:12 | caker | er, cross-build |
| 19:13 | jdike | Looks like I have to find that make error, coz it's happening on my x86_64 box |
| 19:14 | | * jdike listens to the happy sounds of Form 1040 printing out behind him |
| 19:14 | | * caker spins Beatles - Tax Man |
| 19:16 | enum | well.. giving up on applying to an amd64 kernel.. would I lose performance if I ran it in 32bit mode? |
| 19:16 | enum | err the kernel that is |
| 19:17 | jdike | enum: dunno |
| 19:17 | enum | jdike, I tried what you said about applying the uml-patch, then the x86_64 patch.. but couldnt compile 2.6.4 at all |
| 19:17 | jdike | enum: I'm in the process of fixing x86_64 in my 2.6.11 tree, so wait a day or two, and it'll be fine there |
| 19:18 | caker | jdike: x86_64 is fairly complete then? |
| 19:19 | jdike | caker: the major missing piece of 32-bit compat |
| 19:19 | jdike | s/of/is |
| 19:20 | caker | jdike: latest+incrementals exits after Checking PROT_EXEC mmap in /tmp...OK |
| 19:21 | jdike | caker: exception-table is in there? |
| 19:21 | caker | jdike: yes |
| 19:21 | jdike | caker: hmmm |
| 19:21 | jdike | caker: 2.6.11-rc3-mm2? |
| 19:21 | caker | jdike: yup |
| 19:22 | | * jdike grasps at straws |
| 19:22 | caker | # patch -p1 --dry-run < patches/exception_table |
| 19:22 | caker | patching file include/asm-um/common.lds.S |
| 19:22 | caker | Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected! Assume -R? [n] |
| 19:22 | jdike | caker: OK |
| 19:22 | jdike | caker: gdb the thing, put a breakpoint on panic, and see what the stack looks like |
| 19:23 | jdike | caker: I need to check it out on a skas3 box |
| 19:23 | caker | jdike: want the backtrace here? |
| 19:23 | jdike | caker: can you see the panic string? |
| 19:24 | caker | jdike: wait a sec, forgot my ignore signal lines |
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| 19:25 | caker | jdike: welp -- no debugging symbols, so just #0 0x0807b3cc in panic () |
| 19:25 | jdike | caker: turn them on and retry then |
| 19:25 | caker | jdike: yup - already recompiling :) |
| 19:26 | enum | so whats wrong with the 2.4.25 patch? |
| 19:27 | enum | meh.. I'll just compile without skas for now, and wait to see what jdik produces in the next few days |
| 19:31 | caker | jdike: ok, panic isn't hit |
| 19:31 | jdike | caker: it just exits? |
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| 19:32 | caker | jdike: yup .. http://www.theshore.net/~caker/uml/exit.txt |
| 19:33 | caker | jdike: only two patches I did not apply were the cross-build, and fp-state |
| 19:34 | jdike | caker: Hmmm, OK |
| 19:34 | jdike | caker: put a breakpoint in exit |
| 19:35 | caker | jdike: didn't catch |
| 19:35 | jdike | caker: _exit then |
| 19:35 | caker | jdike: negative |
| 19:36 | jdike | caker: strace it and see what that does |
| 19:37 | caker | jdike: ok, on a different host, it works correctly |
| 19:37 | jdike | caker: interesting |
| 19:37 | jdike | caker: how do they differ? |
| 19:37 | caker | jdike: different SKAS versions |
| 19:37 | caker | jdike: old one doesn't work is 2.6.7, new one is 2.6.10+v7-skas |
| 19:37 | jdike | caker: hmm |
| 19:39 | caker | jdike: http://www.theshore.net/~caker/uml/exit-strace.txt , on the old host |
| 19:53 | Shaun | anybody get mandrake 10.1 working on a guesT? |
| 19:59 | Shaun | hmm n/m, it just took a long ass time.. |
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| 20:37 | Shaun | anybody know what would cause mandrake to sit at "Entering non-interactive startup" for a long time, this is all it outputs.. |
| 20:37 | Shaun | Entering non-interactive startup |
| 20:37 | Shaun | Start udev [ OK ] |
| 20:38 | Shaun | it eventually boots, just takes a good 60 seconds to get to start udev |
| 20:38 | schweeb | which version is the UML kernel are you using? |
| 20:38 | Shaun | 2.6.10 |
| 20:38 | schweeb | weird |
| 20:38 | schweeb | I've never used udev in a UML yet |
| 20:41 | Shaun | i've used it with fc3... |
| 20:41 | Shaun | udev does take alittle bit to get started on it but not this long |
| 20:50 | enum | hey question.. the uml patches have the bz2 extension.. but when I run bzcat <patch>|patch -p1 I get |
| 20:50 | enum | bzcat: ../../sources/u/uml-patch-2.4.27-1.bz2 is not a bzip2 file. |
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| 20:54 | Newsome | enum, does 'file ../../sources/u/uml-patch-2.4.27-1.bz2' give any clue |
| 20:54 | Shaun | enum: try bunzip <patch> ;patch -p1 < <patch> |
| 20:56 | Shaun | enum: also, make sure you didnt do a wget on a file that redirects you to sourceforge :) |
| 20:56 | Shaun | i do that all the time.. |
| 20:56 | Shaun | pisses me off |
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| 21:11 | enum | hm.. that worked.. but the 2.4.27-1 patch fails against a stock 2.4.27 kernel from kernel.org |
| 21:11 | enum | damn.. my kernel stuff if waaaaaaaay off tonight |
| 21:13 | caker | enum: you didn't get that patch from the incremtals page, did you? |
| 21:13 | enum | I got it from http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/dl-sf.html |
| 21:13 | caker | k |
| 21:14 | enum | should I be grabbing it from somewhere else? |
| 21:14 | caker | nope |
| 21:14 | enum | this is for the guest kernel |
| 21:14 | enum | fails on mk_task_user.c |
| 21:15 | Shaun | enum: as long as you didnt try to wget this url... http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/user-mode-linux/uml-patch-2.4.27-1.bz2 |
| 21:16 | enum | nah I got it from the correct sf link |
| 21:16 | Shaun | ok. |
| 21:17 | enum | I think I found the error |
| 21:17 | enum | it was in my auto scriupt |
| 21:17 | | * caker just tested the patch, and it worked fine |
| 21:18 | enum | caker, it was on me.. I told the script to cd to linux.. instead of linux-<ver> |
| 21:18 | enum | sorry ;) |
| 21:23 | enum | caker, is there a way to get the kernel .config from a previsou version? |
| 21:23 | enum | err previous unused kernel |
| 21:23 | enum | not the current running |
| 21:25 | caker | ./linux --showconfig ? |
| 21:25 | enum | thank you sir |
| 21:27 | enum | crap.. err.. um.. next question.. *cringe* |
| 21:27 | enum | since IM on an x86_64 the uml kernel kee[ps trying to compile for x876_64 |
| 21:28 | enum | can I pass an arg to make it 32bit? |
| 21:28 | enum | arch/um/Makefile:18: arch/um/Makefile-x86_64: No such file or directory |
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| 21:41 | jdike | SUBARCH=i386 |
| 21:41 | enum | that goes into make_opts right? |
| 21:41 | jdike | what are make_opts? |
| 21:42 | enum | argas that are passed to the make command |
| 21:42 | enum | err args |
| 21:42 | enum | im editing a script to do this for me multiple times if I need it to |
| 21:44 | jdike | enum: yeah |
| 21:45 | enum | so it does not belong in the .config correct? |
| 21:45 | enum | damn.. that didnt work |
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| 21:53 | enum | got it |
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