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| 00:44 | <DOTAAngel> | anyone alive? |
| 00:47 | <Eddi|zuHause> | no. |
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| 01:07 | <Pikka> | mostly eddi |
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| 01:31 | <NGTV_YATTA> | :x |
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| 01:35 | <Eddi|zuHause> | yes, i'm mostly not alive either |
| 01:39 | <Yatta> | hmm |
| 01:40 | <Yatta> | what version of ottd is used in network game ? I only get version missmatchs ones. |
| 01:41 | <Eddi|zuHause> | typically the latest stable, which is mentioned in the topic |
| 01:41 | <Yatta> | Oh. I tought I had it already. Silly me. |
| 01:53 | <Yatta> | There's really a great job done on OTTD. Imo somewhat lacks of gamedesign tough :x. But still very great. |
| 01:53 | <Eddi|zuHause> | if you have something slightly more specific than "it lacks XYZ", feel free to post at the forums |
| 01:55 | <Yatta> | Its nothing new, and quite subjective. Also, I already posted something about that, but more in the form of 'are there patches for ...' |
| 01:56 | <Yatta> | because I didnt find a patch database like the nice thing there is for AI/newgrfs/scenarios ... |
| 01:56 | <Eddi|zuHause> | pretty much all patches are in the patches forum |
| 01:58 | <Yatta> | development? |
| 01:59 | <Eddi|zuHause> | yes, that one |
| 02:02 | <Yatta> | I've seen it, but the forum isnt the most practical to use. There's 44 pages of it and the topic title doesnt give much info, and since its a development forum, you dont know which patches are in a 'playable' state. |
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| 02:13 | <@petern> | Sacro, binarywriter is encoded, isn't it? |
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| 02:19 | <@petern> | oh |
| 02:27 | <Eddi|zuHause> | great timing ;) |
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| 03:16 | <Pikka> | that's torn it |
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| 03:18 | <nonsensical> | how do I make the font size bigger in the game? |
| 03:20 | <planetmaker> | nonsensical, edit your openttd.cfg and search for the three fonts in there |
| 03:20 | <planetmaker> | replace them by something you like |
| 03:20 | <nonsensical> | currently they're blank |
| 03:20 | <nonsensical> | is there a special format for them? |
| 03:21 | <nonsensical> | I tried increasing the small/medium/large font size listed there |
| 03:21 | <nonsensical> | but nothing happened |
| 03:21 | <planetmaker> | did you re-start openttd? |
| 03:21 | <nonsensical> | yes |
| 03:21 | <planetmaker> | and not quit it, after you saved? |
| 03:21 | <planetmaker> | openttd re-writes its cfg upon exit |
| 03:21 | <nonsensical> | I'm guessing the font sizes are ignored if there's no font listed there |
| 03:22 | <nonsensical> | is there a special format for font names or anything? |
| 03:22 | <planetmaker> | might also be. Dunno which are nice for you and your system |
| 03:22 | <planetmaker> | it should be names |
| 03:22 | <nonsensical> | xp, 1600x1200 |
| 03:23 | <planetmaker> | try any of the font names you have |
| 03:23 | <planetmaker> | I haven't played around with names in some time either. |
| 03:23 | <nonsensical> | arial seems to work, but the size is too big for the boxes so things get cut off |
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| 03:25 | <nonsensical> | well I guess that sorta works, thanks |
| 03:26 | <nonsensical> | can't make the small size any larger than 10, it's already running together |
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| 03:50 | <@Rubidium> | nonsensical: in trunk most windows will scale better to larger fonts |
| 03:52 | <@Rubidium> | (trunk being the main 'development' branch) |
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| 04:00 | <nonsensical> | I might try that |
| 04:00 | <nonsensical> | thanks |
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| 04:33 | <@petern> | oh does that all work now? |
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| 04:34 | <@petern> | nice |
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| 04:44 | <@petern> | hmm |
| 04:44 | <@petern> | the game options 'boxes' don't expand |
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| 05:08 | <@Rubidium> | petern: not all and not all as good as some, but lots of progress has been made |
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| 06:19 | <CIA-4> | OpenTTD: rubidium * r18035 /trunk/src/station_cmd.cpp: -Fix (r16909): one could remotely crash (assert) the server on certain commands |
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| 09:07 | <@Belugas> | hello |
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| 11:06 | <Sacro> | http://www.flixxy.com/worlds-luckiest-train-track-inspector.htm |
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| 11:22 | <@Rubidium> | Sacro: he didn't die, so there's no reason to change any of the protocols regarding checking (especially) switches |
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| 11:24 | <Sacro> | Rubidium: course not :) |
| 11:24 | <Sacro> | no harm, no foul |
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| 11:29 | <planetmaker> | good evening |
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| 11:50 | <CIA-4> | OpenTTD: frosch * r18036 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Fix (r17999): Always two they are. |
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| 12:50 | <Eddi|zuHause> | is there such a thing as an Obitwo? |
| 12:56 | <frosch123> | b - a = b - (a + 1) + 1 |
| 13:01 | <Eddi|zuHause> | they are likely to cancel eachother out |
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| 13:07 | <frosch123> | well, you can live with the empire :) but if you kill one, you also have to take the other |
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| 13:10 | <Paul2> | Sacro: !!!!! |
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| 13:17 | <Sacro> | ? |
| 13:17 | <Paul2> | that you tube link |
| 13:18 | <Paul2> | after this http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8352198.stm as well |
| 13:19 | <Sacro> | don't they have a suicide pit? |
| 13:21 | <Paul2> | clearly not in boston |
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| 13:21 | <Paul2> | also looks like she touches the third rail as well, so yeah. Lucky lady. |
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| 13:22 | <Sacro> | might be that someone was monitoring the cctv and discharged it |
| 13:22 | <Sacro> | http://www.whitesmoke.com/how-to-market-your-software-successfully.html |
| 13:22 | <Sacro> | XD |
| 13:23 | <Paul2> | well yeah the red squares are the image detection on the CCTV so it can do automatic stuff. Don't know quite what they have there. |
| 13:24 | <Paul2> | our system does things like detect 'dodgy' or suspicious acitivty and alert operators. |
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| 13:27 | <_ln> | http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/bild-english/world-news/2009/10/05/thilo-sarrazin/may-quit-german-bundesbank-over-berliner-remarks.html |
| 13:34 | <MyCatVerbs> | Sacro: thank God! Technology has finally freed us from the incredible burden of having to hire literate people! |
| 13:36 | <Sacro> | MyCatVerbs: it proves Muphry's Law |
| 13:36 | <Sacro> | it also has dangling modifiers |
| 13:37 | <MyCatVerbs> | Forgive me, but I am incapable of discerning whether you did that on purpose. |
| 13:37 | <Sacro> | what? |
| 13:37 | <MyCatVerbs> | "Muphry's Law". |
| 13:37 | <Sacro> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muphry%27s_law |
| 13:37 | <MyCatVerbs> | The 'r' is close to where it needs to be, but not quite there. |
| 13:38 | <MyCatVerbs> | AHAHAHAHAH. I stand corrected. |
| 13:38 | <MyCatVerbs> | Thank you, Sacro. :) |
| 13:38 | <MyCatVerbs> | (So the joke is deliberate. Of course. ^^) |
| 13:38 | <Sacro> | basically if you do anything criticising spelling/grammer, that will contain spelling/grammer mistakes |
| 13:38 | <Sacro> | check the last sentence on their first paragraph |
| 13:39 | <MyCatVerbs> | Yes, I can read. :P |
| 13:39 | <MyCatVerbs> | Sometimes I even elect to actually do so soon enough. ^^ |
| 13:40 | <Sacro> | also the 3rd paragraph misses an 'a' in it |
| 13:42 | <MyCatVerbs> | Er, where? I can't see it. Please quote the offending sentence? |
| 13:42 | <Sacro> | extra comma there... |
| 13:42 | <Sacro> | With WhiteSmoke writing technology, you can create professional quality copy for your web site and marketing needs from your own texts. |
| 13:43 | <Sacro> | that sounds decidedly un English |
| 13:43 | <MyCatVerbs> | Oh! Sorry, I thought you were referring to the wikipedia article on Muphry's Law. |
| 13:43 | <Sacro> | oh no :) |
| 13:43 | <Sacro> | i'm just proofreading their website |
| 13:43 | <MyCatVerbs> | Yeah, it sounds suspiciously like it was translated from Chinese. |
| 13:44 | <Sacro> | Also, i thought it was frowned upon to start a sentence with 'With' |
| 13:44 | <Sacro> | used 'on to' instead of 'into' |
| 13:44 | <Sacro> | this is most amusing |
| 13:45 | * | Sacro makes note to not purchase or recommend their product |
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| 13:45 | <MyCatVerbs> | Forbidding the starting of sentences with the word "with" sounds unnecessarily fussy to me. |
| 13:45 | <CIA-4> | OpenTTD: translators * r18037 /trunk/src/lang/ (czech.txt indonesian.txt polish.txt traditional_chinese.txt): |
| 13:45 | <CIA-4> | OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: |
| 13:45 | <CIA-4> | OpenTTD: traditional_chinese - 1 changes by josesun |
| 13:45 | <CIA-4> | OpenTTD: czech - 3 changes by SmatZ |
| 13:45 | <CIA-4> | OpenTTD: indonesian - 1 changes by prof |
| 13:45 | <CIA-4> | OpenTTD: polish - 4 changes by silver_777 |
| 13:45 | <Sacro> | well, usually you can do s/. W/, w/ |
| 13:47 | <MyCatVerbs> | "I like hamsters. With the aid of my trusty hamster-stabbed, it takes me almost no time at all to turn one into dinner." |
| 13:47 | <MyCatVerbs> | Your simplistic tranformation will not re-render the above into a single working sentence. :) |
| 13:47 | <MyCatVerbs> | s/hamster-stabbed/hamster-stabber/ (I promise that that was purely a typo) |
| 13:48 | <MyCatVerbs> | (Alas, fcuk Muphry.) |
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| 13:49 | <Eddi|zuHause> | <_ln> http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/bild-english/world-news/2009/10/05/thilo-sarrazin/may-quit-german-bundesbank-over-berliner-remarks.html <--- that title reads like "we couldn't fire him for racist remarks, so we mob him until he goes by himself... |
| 13:52 | <Eddi|zuHause> | _ln: afair they just took a section from his controls, so they basically degraded him |
| 13:52 | <Eddi|zuHause> | the "news" is a month old, after all |
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| 14:05 | <_ln> | did they argue his claims are false? |
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| 14:09 | <frosch123> | you can prove every statistical thing to be true or false to your liking |
| 14:11 | <Prof_Frink> | 74% of statistics are made up on the spot. |
| 14:11 | <Alberth> | the same holds for 'scientific research' results |
| 14:12 | <frosch123> | 80% are against global warming |
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| 15:40 | <@petern> | http://ruero.com/9847-vostorzhennoe-povtorenie.html (nsfw) |
| 15:41 | <Noldo> | is it someone we know? |
| 15:46 | <Sacro> | that's orudge |
| 15:46 | <Eddi|zuHause> | it's photoshopped! you can tell by the pixels! |
| 15:46 | <Sacro> | it's shaved |
| 15:46 | <Sacro> | i can tell be the lack of hair |
| 15:47 | <Eddi|zuHause> | Sacro: it's definitely neither gandalf nor melissa joan heart, so it must be oruge... flawless logic! |
| 15:47 | <@Rubidium> | yes... he hasn't denied it so it must be true! |
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| 15:52 | <TrueBrain> | why did I open that URL :( |
| 15:52 | <blathijs> | petern: Are you just pasting porn pictures here, or is there actually a good article in that russian crap? |
| 15:53 | <blathijs> | TrueBrain: Because NSFW isn't usually _this_ explicit? :-) |
| 15:53 | <@Rubidium> | well, apparantly it's okay in this channel... |
| 15:53 | <@petern> | it was art or something |
| 15:53 | <TrueBrain> | well, I just blacklisted URLs coming from petern, most likely a better solution ;) |
| 15:55 | <blathijs> | I have to admit, the initial paragraph does become somewhat like a poem when you pull it through Goolge translate |
| 15:56 | <blathijs> | But I don't think that was intended :-) |
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| 16:12 | <Eddi|zuHause> | i don't see under which jurisdiction this can be classified as "porn" |
| 16:13 | <planetmaker> | sharia? |
| 16:14 | <frosch123> | "Maybe I have time this weekend. Then I will start to learn to draw sprites" |
| 16:14 | <planetmaker> | :-D |
| 16:14 | <Eddi|zuHause> | everybody must start somewhen |
| 16:15 | <planetmaker> | maybe maybe... maybe someone wants to help finish open[g|s]fx? |
| 16:15 | <Eddi|zuHause> | each weekend is as good as the next one :p |
| 16:15 | <planetmaker> | also true :-) |
| 16:15 | <@petern> | hey should i do anything with railtypes |
| 16:15 | <Eddi|zuHause> | yes, trash it and rewrite it from scratch ;) |
| 16:15 | <@petern> | again! |
| 16:16 | <planetmaker> | petern, *should* is probably the wrong wording. But surely there's a number of people who'd like to see something like that :-) |
| 16:16 | <Eddi|zuHause> | i have the impression hardly any development has taken place recently, except nestifying widgets |
| 16:17 | <Eddi|zuHause> | one could also say "petern! newrailtypes!" |
| 16:17 | <planetmaker> | IPv6... DistantJoin... OpenSFX support... |
| 16:18 | <Eddi|zuHause> | those are probably nice, but not the killerfeature-kind such as YAPP |
| 16:18 | <planetmaker> | :-) True from a player's perspective |
| 16:18 | <_ln> | i agree that those photos are not "porn" |
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| 16:19 | <Eddi|zuHause> | and every previous release had at least one such revolutionary feature |
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| 16:20 | <Eddi|zuHause> | current candidates are cargod*st, railtypes and newgrf airports, but neither of these are in a shape likely to be finished within the next half year |
| 16:20 | <@petern> | added 3387 changesets with 18493 changes to 1109 files |
| 16:20 | <@petern> | oh dear |
| 16:21 | <Eddi|zuHause> | 3000 revisions? |
| 16:21 | <Alberth> | enough to read tonight :) |
| 16:21 | <@petern> | can't be right |
| 16:21 | <@petern> | last merge was 17296 |
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| 16:22 | <Eddi|zuHause> | that's more like 800 revisions. where do the other 2500 changesets come from? |
| 16:22 | <frosch123> | so about 4 to 5 changes files per revision? |
| 16:22 | <Eddi|zuHause> | or does it count every file per revision? |
| 16:22 | <@petern> | oh, no |
| 16:23 | <@petern> | i keep a local trunk and a local railtype |
| 16:23 | <@petern> | the trunk was indeed out of date |
| 16:23 | <@petern> | pulling from that gives 710 changes |
| 16:23 | <Eddi|zuHause> | aha. so they're bogus changesets you want to sell us ;) |
| 16:23 | <@petern> | cheap at twice the price |
| 16:24 | <@petern> | ok... hg merge has fired up meld... never seen this before :s |
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| 16:25 | <Eddi|zuHause> | anyway, i understand why you came back here, but what made you leave in the first place? |
| 16:26 | <@petern> | oh |
| 16:26 | <@petern> | why did i come back? |
| 16:27 | <planetmaker> | Eddi|zuHause, don't forget infrastructure sharing ;-) |
| 16:27 | <Eddi|zuHause> | because you couldn't live without us, obviously... |
| 16:28 | <Eddi|zuHause> | planetmaker: i kinda have my doubts that feature will get anywhere near trunk... |
| 16:29 | <planetmaker> | dunno... why not? |
| 16:29 | <Eddi|zuHause> | i mean it's more like a gut feeling, i'm not in a position to decide that ;) |
| 16:29 | <_ln> | do you think darkvater would approve of such feature? |
| 16:30 | <planetmaker> | I guess what he thinks is mostly irrelevant nowadays. Besides I have no basis to judge how he might decide |
| 16:31 | <_ln> | a mutiny |
| 16:32 | <Eddi|zuHause> | what kind of mutiny is it when the captain's long gone? |
| 16:34 | <_ln> | a bloodless one |
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| 16:54 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | heya |
| 16:55 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | can someone answer my n00bish question? |
| 16:55 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | how do i build a clean trunk again (if i already have a crappy patched trunk) |
| 16:55 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | just delete all and redownload? |
| 16:55 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | or is there a faster way |
| 16:56 | <Hirundo> | What vcs are you using? |
| 16:57 | <+glx> | svn revert -R . |
| 16:57 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | in tortoise svn?XD |
| 16:57 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | or do i really have to go to my mingw for that as well:P |
| 16:57 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | ill just remove+redownload |
| 16:58 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | XD thx anyway |
| 16:58 | <+glx> | tortoise should be able to revert all too |
| 16:58 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | yeah i know, just forgot the command/button |
| 16:58 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | anyway |
| 16:58 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | does Infra_share work with latest revision? |
| 16:59 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | or dont you know XD |
| 16:59 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | lol i just tried to "update" without removing patches |
| 17:00 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | and the languages/english.txt is conflicted XD lol |
| 17:00 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | but im cool |
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| 17:01 | <Hirundo> | IS should *probably* work with current trunk as it has been synced only a couple of days ago |
| 17:02 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | alright |
| 17:02 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | ill give it a go |
| 17:02 | <@petern> | hurr, railtypes updated :D |
| 17:02 | <@Rubidium> | lets start a pool about whether it compiles or not |
| 17:02 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | XD |
| 17:02 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | @ Rubidium 5$ it wont |
| 17:03 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | XD |
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| 17:04 | <@petern> | railtypes? |
| 17:04 | <@petern> | or IS? hehe |
| 17:04 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | hehe ill even bet $5 on both XD |
| 17:05 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | cause im n00b in compiling (oh well i can still do it, with my handy guide4idiots ) |
| 17:05 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | but what did you do with railtypes? |
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| 17:06 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | kk i got clean trunk downloaded |
| 17:06 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | now lemmy find my patches id like to have |
| 17:06 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | and see how they work out on latest revision |
| 17:07 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | XD |
| 17:09 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | and another: improved brakedowns |
| 17:09 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | how can i "check" compatibilities lolz |
| 17:09 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | apart from backup, patch, test, and repeat thatXD |
| 17:10 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | zomg fail i just downloaded IS but its like complete game? not just a simple patch thingy? |
| 17:11 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | ah lol im blind XD downloaded wrong linky:P |
| 17:14 | * | Hirundo pipes IRC channel to ZxBiohazardZx's diary |
| 17:14 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | ..? |
| 17:14 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | trying to get Infra sharing to work |
| 17:14 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | but im complete idiot XD |
| 17:14 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | i only see IS_beta3 .diff |
| 17:14 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | no beta 4 or 5? |
| 17:15 | <Xaroth> | you running windows? |
| 17:15 | <@Belugas> | ZHOME!!!! |
| 17:15 | <Hirundo> | Where are you looking? |
| 17:15 | <Xaroth> | o/ Belugas |
| 17:15 | * | Belugas runs home |
| 17:15 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | yes im using windows |
| 17:15 | <@Rubidium> | night Belugas, happy running |
| 17:15 | <@Belugas> | byebye |
| 17:15 | <@Belugas> | thanks :) |
| 17:15 | <Xaroth> | ZxBiohazardZx: surely there are official builds? |
| 17:15 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | i had the following link |
| 17:15 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | im on this site |
| 17:15 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | that offers some links:P |
| 17:16 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2/files |
| 17:16 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | that had 2 diffs |
| 17:16 | * | Xaroth nudges planetmaker |
| 17:16 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | and i also had a link to beta 5, but that wasnt a .diff file (or am i wrong there)? |
| 17:16 | <Hirundo> | If you read the first post *thoroughly*, you fill find the answer |
| 17:17 | <Hirundo> | s/fill/will |
| 17:17 | <Xaroth> | try http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/is2/ |
| 17:17 | <Xaroth> | http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2 has that link |
| 17:17 | <Xaroth> | ( Release bundles of binaries, Doxygen and sources can be downloaded from here. ) |
| 17:17 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | http://wiki.openttd.org/Infrastructure_Sharing#Tags_.28Releases.29 would be the site with releases |
| 17:17 | <Xaroth> | or better yet: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/is2/IS2.0-beta5/ |
| 17:18 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | but im looking for the .diff rather then a complete executable (because im trying to see if i can have some other patches as well) (yes i know that its hard to do that but anyway) |
| 17:18 | <Xaroth> | http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/is2/trunk-patches/ |
| 17:19 | <@Rubidium> | http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/is2/trunk-patches/ ? |
| 17:19 | * | Xaroth ^5 Rubidium |
| 17:20 | <planetmaker> | :-) |
| 17:20 | <planetmaker> | ZxBiohazardZx: it might be easier to clone the repo and just try to apply any patch there... |
| 17:22 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | eeehm |
| 17:22 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | explain that, im complete idiot on thisXD |
| 17:22 | <Xaroth> | then you'll have fun trying to apply other patches ^^ |
| 17:22 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | so i download IS2.0-beta5 |
| 17:23 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | the "release" |
| 17:23 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | bad connection lol |
| 17:24 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | oh well all patches i run now are: signals on tunnel/bridges and i had another one XD |
| 17:25 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | not important anway |
| 17:25 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | so planetmaker you suggest i just take a release or? |
| 17:26 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | didnt quite get your comment |
| 17:26 | <planetmaker> | ZxBiohazardZx: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/wiki/Welcome |
| 17:26 | <planetmaker> | I suggest you get the source repository (e.g. the whole patched OpenTTD infrastructure sharing branch) instead of "plain" trunk OpenTTD and then only applying the patch |
| 17:27 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | hmmz alright, 1 sec |
| 17:27 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | let me read that link:P |
| 17:27 | <planetmaker> | you'll need mercurial as opposed to subversion, though... |
| 17:27 | <+glx> | or a real patch tool |
| 17:27 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | awww why do you guys all use a different program for the same thing XD? |
| 17:28 | <Xaroth> | different purposes :) |
| 17:28 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | i have tortoise SVN and MINGW as explained on wiki |
| 17:28 | <planetmaker> | :-) |
| 17:28 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | but alright:P |
| 17:28 | <+glx> | because hg is better for this king of things |
| 17:28 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | cool |
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| 17:29 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | anyway ill run the walkthrough real quick:P |
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| 17:30 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | great 1 million download links for tortoise_hg? |
| 17:31 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | im so not gonna download every single file up there:S wtf |
| 17:31 | <Xaroth> | you are! :P |
| 17:31 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | http://bitbucket.org/tortoisehg/stable/downloads/ |
| 17:32 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | lamerz |
| 17:33 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | @Xaroth you SURE i need all? |
| 17:33 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | they all seem different versions of same thing to me:S |
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| 17:38 | <Xaroth> | ZxBiohazardZx: it was just a guess :) |
| 17:38 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | my inet sucks, stupid wifi is to weak, brb |
| 17:38 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | lolz |
| 17:39 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | i wont but ill down this tomorrow |
| 17:39 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | thx anyway |
| 17:39 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | ttyl |
| 17:39 | <Xaroth> | I've not looked at openttd for a while.. too busy with dune :/ |
| 17:39 | <Xaroth> | cya |
| 17:39 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | dune?:P |
| 17:39 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | as in Dune I II or 2000? |
| 17:39 | <Xaroth> | II |
| 17:39 | <Xaroth> | google opendune |
| 17:39 | <Xaroth> | you'll find it |
| 17:39 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | :P |
| 17:39 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | i used to play dune2000 (dune II with way better gfx imo) |
| 17:39 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | but yeah good game;) |
| 17:40 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | and i will |
| 17:40 | <ZxBiohazardZx> | cya |
| 17:40 | <Xaroth> | cya |
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| 18:45 | <nonsensical> | is there a way to rotate the map? |
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| 18:50 | <Xaroth> | nonsensical: no |
| 18:50 | <Xaroth> | I'd recommend turning around your monitor and looking at it from that angle if you want to rotate :) |
| 18:51 | <nonsensical> | yes... |
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| 20:24 | <tiaz> | I'm on 0.7.3 and when I load a saved game with a new AI all of them error out with: |
| 20:25 | <tiaz> | 'Your script made an error: the index `rawin` does not exist' |
| 20:25 | <tiaz> | I tried redownloading the content but that didn't seem to do anything and I can't find anything in google. is this a known thing? |
| 20:31 | <+glx> | broken AI |
| 20:36 | <tiaz> | it did fine until the save/restore |
| 20:36 | <tiaz> | I guess I'll try starting a new one and see if it lives |
| 20:37 | <+glx> | maybe only saving/loading is broken in the AI, anyway it's a broken AI :) |
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| 21:50 | <zil> | Hi, if anyone can help me just have a couple of questions - I usually just plan biggest routes possible, but reading the site has got me a little confused - http://wiki.openttd.org/Game_mechanics#Delivery_payment_rates |
| 21:50 | <zil> | I do not understand the calulations for "late delivery" as long as you go fast, does the distance outweigh the penalty? |
| 21:54 | <Eddi|zuHause> | some cargo (like food) must be delivered within a given time |
| 21:54 | <Eddi|zuHause> | so with slow vehicles, you can make losses if you go too far |
| 21:54 | <Eddi|zuHause> | the faster the vehicles get, the further you can bring them |
| 21:54 | <Eddi|zuHause> | farther? |
| 21:54 | <Eddi|zuHause> | whatever? |
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| 21:58 | <Eddi|zuHause> | the "problem" is that maximum of -88%, so if you are _really extremely late_, the price goes up again for the distance |
| 22:01 | <Eddi|zuHause> | quick calculation says for passengers that is 30 years ;) |
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| 22:11 | <Eddi|zuHause> | i'm not sure how to interpret this data correctly... my calculation says for passengers you make no money after 137 days... |
| 22:12 | <SirSquidness> | hrm, so all those inter-continental rail routes I've done aren't actually that profitable afterall. |
| 22:13 | <Eddi|zuHause> | but there are some limits in place that you don't actually make "no money" |
| 22:14 | <Eddi|zuHause> | so after these 137 days, it seems to grow linearily with distance |
| 22:14 | <Eddi|zuHause> | which might make the routes profital again |
| 22:15 | <zil> | it makes sense - I am playing on a 1024x1024 field and I just made a airfield from one corner to another... 1930 and fully loaded I only got 3k :( |
| 22:16 | <zil> | Journey took about a year! I am coming straight from TT DX to open TTD, never played before, just fancied some retro gaming and can't beleive it is still alive e.t.c. |
| 22:16 | <Eddi|zuHause> | http://wiki.openttd.org/Cargo_income <-- suggests at 300km/h you can cross the entire map at optimum income |
| 22:16 | <zil> | I remember doing a similar route with that fast plane you et later and getting 100+k for the same route |
| 22:17 | <Eddi|zuHause> | note that plane speed might be scaled 1/4, so for airplanes you need 1200km/h |
| 22:17 | <Eddi|zuHause> | [depending on setting][depending on setting] |
| 22:17 | <zil> | im on default |
| 22:18 | <Eddi|zuHause> | but again, i might be misreading the data |
| 22:19 | <zil> | anyway, another question that is going to sound stupid but wondering - does building on farmland affect production? |
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| 22:19 | <zil> | its ok, I understand briefly |
| 22:19 | <Eddi|zuHause> | no, farmland is only there to make clearing it annoyingly expensive, it has no effect on the farm |
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| 22:20 | <zil> | Thanks! I wondered that for many years! I havent played this game for 10+! I feel like a child again! :) |
| 22:21 | <Eddi|zuHause> | i know that feeling ,) |
| 22:22 | <zil> | oh well, time to play again... I remember bunking off school in order to play this on my 486 (original before delux!)... so happy |
| 22:22 | <zil> | thanks for your help |
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| 23:36 | <Rhamphoryncus> | zil: did your plane break down along the way? That severely reduces the speed |
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