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| 02:14 | <einKarl> | Hello |
| 02:17 | <einKarl> | am i right: a problem with assertion-crash while working on order (of trams) is not yet reported? |
| 02:18 | <einKarl> | (Version: r13776) |
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| 02:29 | <Celestar> | peter1138: you there? |
| 02:32 | <@peter1138> | Yes |
| 02:34 | <einKarl> | cu later |
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| 02:37 | <Celestar> | peter1138: I'm doing nice progress here. I might have a finished route network system by the end of the weekend, but I might/will need some assistance when it comes to saveloading |
| 02:39 | <Celestar> | I might be finished earlier, but I'm trying to do this cleanly |
| 02:39 | <Celestar> | we've had enough Q&D shots at the paxdest thingy imho |
| 02:40 | <@peter1138> | Q&D? |
| 02:40 | <@peter1138> | Oh |
| 02:40 | <@peter1138> | Quick and dirty... |
| 02:42 | <Celestar> | yeah |
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| 02:52 | <Celestar> | peter1138: we should also separate this whole thingy into two part 1) the graph/network (incl. pathfinding), 2) the actual cargo handling (generation, boarding, deboarding, etc) |
| 02:55 | <@peter1138> | Yes... |
| 02:55 | <@peter1138> | That is logical, but I don't know how the other patches handled them. |
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| 03:01 | <Celestar> | messy? |
| 03:05 | <Celestar> | how does one access a station's name?! |
| 03:18 | <Noldo> | what do you have? ID? |
| 03:18 | <Celestar> | yeah |
| 03:20 | <@peter1138> | You want its actual string? |
| 03:21 | <@peter1138> | SetDParam(0, st->index); |
| 03:21 | <@peter1138> | GetString(buf, STR_STATION, lastof(buf)); |
| 03:21 | <Celestar> | ok. |
| 03:21 | <Celestar> | too much for debugging output. the ID will do |
| 03:21 | <@peter1138> | Where buf is some preallocated buffer. |
| 03:21 | <@peter1138> | Not that much, and more handy than an ID. |
| 03:22 | <Noldo> | what is index there? |
| 03:22 | <@peter1138> | st->index is station id... |
| 03:22 | <Noldo> | ok |
| 03:23 | <Celestar> | buf is something like char[250] ? |
| 03:25 | <Celestar> | /home/vici/openttd/trunk/src/direction_func.h:203: multiple definition of `_routing' |
| 03:25 | <Celestar> | station_cmd.o:/home/vici/openttd/trunk/src/track_type.h:60: first defined here |
| 03:25 | <Celestar> | what the fuck? :P |
| 03:30 | <Noldo> | is that a linking error |
| 03:31 | <Celestar> | yeah |
| 03:31 | <Celestar> | there's no variable called _routing anywhere near those lines :P |
| 03:35 | <Celestar> | Routing_t *Routing; <= there's really a lot that can go wrong in this line, right? |
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| 03:47 | <Celestar> | I've really fuqqed this up badly |
| 03:47 | <Celestar> | the debugger throws errors ^^ |
| 03:48 | * | SpComb discovers a silly bug in his code |
| 03:49 | <SpComb> | when receiving the HTTP data into a memory buffer, I would double the size of the buffer if the new data didn't fit... but I didn't check if the new data would actually fit into the doubled buffer :P |
| 03:50 | <SpComb> | you might need to quadruple the buffer to make it fit |
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| 03:55 | <Celestar> | you might want to find the size first and then allocate the buffer according to it? :P |
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| 03:57 | <planetmaker> | morning all |
| 03:57 | <Celestar> | peter1138: when exactly are stations allocated?! |
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| 03:58 | <Celestar> | \o michi_cc |
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| 04:14 | <Celestar> | why are we preallocating 64 stations on game start :o |
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| 04:16 | <Celestar> | this is totally weird |
| 04:18 | <SpComb> | Celestar: true, if you can depend on the HTTP server giving you a Content-Length header, libcurl probably gives you access to it |
| 04:18 | <SpComb> | libcurl's support for receive-into-mem is kind of poor |
| 04:19 | <Celestar> | I dunno shit about libcurl |
| 04:19 | * | Celestar just discovered that one can type "make" from within gdb |
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| 05:08 | <Celestar> | why is everyone quiet as hell ?:P |
| 05:08 | <Yorick> | shh |
| 05:10 | <Singaporekid> | :o |
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| 05:26 | <Noldo> | I'm actively trying to work, but failing, which makes me sad and quiet |
| 05:27 | <blathijs> | Noldo: Work on what? |
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| 05:42 | <fmauNeko> | hello :) |
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| 06:08 | <Artamirx> | hi |
| 06:08 | <Artamirx> | someone can help me about local authority please? |
| 06:08 | <Artamirx> | I need to disable it |
| 06:08 | <Artamirx> | :S |
| 06:08 | <ln> | bribe it |
| 06:09 | <guru3> | i don't think you can disable the local authority |
| 06:09 | <Artamirx> | I can't bribe unlimited |
| 06:09 | <guru3> | you can set in the difficulty options before the start of a new game that they will be tollerant in their attitude towards leveliing surround mountains etc |
| 06:09 | <Artamirx> | I think there is a patch |
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| 06:09 | <guru3> | (lor that htey will be hostile: that's how i do it) |
| 06:09 | <guru3> | you can also plant trees nearby to help improve their opinion of you |
| 06:10 | <Artamirx> | mmhm |
| 06:10 | <Artamirx> | I need to destroy a city completely |
| 06:10 | <Artamirx> | because |
| 06:10 | <Artamirx> | I change the buildings set |
| 06:10 | <Artamirx> | can you understand me? :) |
| 06:11 | <Artamirx> | I had "NA city set" and I want to have other buildings |
| 06:11 | <Artamirx> | and the only way is rebuilding cities |
| 06:11 | <Artamirx> | D: |
| 06:11 | <ln> | so what you really want is nuclear weapons? |
| 06:11 | <guru3> | i'm not sure about changing building sets while playing |
| 06:11 | <Artamirx> | hahahahaha |
| 06:11 | <guru3> | but wouldn't it get cycled out over time? |
| 06:11 | <guru3> | or does it just not switch all at once |
| 06:11 | <Artamirx> | I'm trying using the set in patch "building cities faster" |
| 06:12 | <Artamirx> | and "disable to cities to build more roads" |
| 06:12 | <Artamirx> | :) |
| 06:12 | <guru3> | you could start a new game |
| 06:12 | <guru3> | if the buildings are that important to you |
| 06:12 | <Artamirx> | noooooooooo |
| 06:12 | <Artamirx> | I have too much infraestructure |
| 06:12 | <Artamirx> | in this game |
| 06:12 | <Artamirx> | X_X |
| 06:13 | <guru3> | well if you're focus is infrastructure |
| 06:13 | <guru3> | the buildigns aren't really that important are they? |
| 06:13 | <Artamirx> | aha |
| 06:13 | <Artamirx> | are secondary |
| 06:13 | <Artamirx> | :) |
| 06:13 | <Artamirx> | watch my screens |
| 06:13 | <Artamirx> | to see my infraestructure |
| 06:13 | <Artamirx> | http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=38091 |
| 06:14 | <Yorick> | the airport asfalt :) |
| 06:14 | <Artamirx> | someone knows what I have to do to put snow in temperate climate? |
| 06:14 | <Artamirx> | I saw some nice screens |
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| 06:15 | <Artamirx> | with mountains full of snow |
| 06:15 | <guru3> | you'll never destroy all of those towns |
| 06:15 | <guru3> | it'll take you hundreds of years and buiillions |
| 06:16 | <Artamirx> | xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 06:16 | <Artamirx> | I forgive the buildings better |
| 06:16 | <Artamirx> | and snow? |
| 06:16 | <Artamirx> | o.o |
| 06:16 | <Artamirx> | which grf is? |
| 06:16 | <Artamirx> | to have snowy mountains in temperate climate |
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| 06:17 | <guru3> | i don't know |
| 06:17 | <guru3> | i haven't actively played in about 3 years really |
| 06:18 | <Artamirx> | ok thx :) |
| 06:18 | <guru3> | i excel merely in general transport theory |
| 06:18 | <Artamirx> | o.0 |
| 06:19 | <guru3> | i first played the game over 10 years ago |
| 06:19 | <guru3> | so i know how to play it very well, i just haven't done so recently |
| 06:21 | <guru3> | don't know i fi could go doing something that detailed like that, i don't think i have the patience to completely emulate a country |
| 06:21 | <Artamirx> | :O |
| 06:21 | <guru3> | i prefer freestyle much more |
| 06:21 | <Artamirx> | I emulate my conuntry |
| 06:21 | <Artamirx> | hahah |
| 06:22 | <Artamirx> | a part only |
| 06:22 | <guru3> | the one thing which i would consider putting serious time into |
| 06:22 | <guru3> | would be making a round-a-bout that worked |
| 06:22 | <Artamirx> | :O |
| 06:22 | <guru3> | not a 4 way junction, a true round-a-bout |
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| 06:23 | <planetmaker> | [12:16][12:16] <Artamirx> to have snowy mountains in temperate climate <-- probably alpine climate by MB |
| 06:23 | <Artamirx> | 0.o |
| 06:23 | <Artamirx> | I have a grf |
| 06:23 | <Artamirx> | named "alpine climate" |
| 06:23 | <Artamirx> | but |
| 06:23 | <Artamirx> | snow didn't appear |
| 06:23 | <Artamirx> | :S |
| 06:24 | <planetmaker> | yeah. That should do the trick. You need to set the snow heigth. Read the manual to it :) |
| 06:24 | <planetmaker> | grf have parameters |
| 06:24 | <Artamirx> | aha |
| 06:24 | <Artamirx> | where is the post? |
| 06:24 | <Artamirx> | do you have a link? |
| 06:24 | <Artamirx> | or I have to use "search"? ^^^ |
| 06:24 | <planetmaker> | no. Use grfcrawler |
| 06:24 | <Artamirx> | okay |
| 06:25 | <Artamirx> | in grfcrawler |
| 06:25 | <Artamirx> | the link is broken |
| 06:25 | <Artamirx> | D: |
| 06:25 | <planetmaker> | or look for the grf package of #openttdcoop. It should come with the readmes. But if you have it, you should have the readme, too :) |
| 06:26 | <planetmaker> | [12:25][12:25] <PublicServer> http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (GRFPack 7.1) |
| 06:26 | <guru3> | ahhh i'm glad openttdcoop is prevalent |
| 06:26 | <planetmaker> | :) |
| 06:27 | <Artamirx> | i was sear4ching it |
| 06:27 | <Artamirx> | thanks :D |
| 06:28 | <guru3> | time to get back to work... cu |
| 06:28 | <planetmaker> | [12:11][12:11] <guru3> i'm not sure about changing building sets while playing <--- that can seriously f*** up your game. |
| 06:28 | <planetmaker> | yw |
| 06:29 | <Artamirx> | no, I tried |
| 06:29 | <Artamirx> | and the game normally runs |
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| 06:29 | <Artamirx> | but, buildings turn to TTD version |
| 06:29 | <Artamirx> | and I have to destroy them and re-build |
| 06:29 | <planetmaker> | it may work, may seem to work or crash altogether. |
| 06:30 | <planetmaker> | Don't complain about anything later then. |
| 06:30 | <ln> | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/23/enormouse/ |
| 06:30 | <Artamirx> | hahah |
| 06:32 | <planetmaker> | seriously. town sets have an impact on economy. Stations may stop or start to accept cargo and all kind of weired stuff |
| 06:32 | <planetmaker> | better start a new game |
| 06:35 | <Artamirx> | okay |
| 06:37 | <Artamirx> | which tram set it's okay? |
| 06:37 | <Artamirx> | actual and nice |
| 06:38 | <Artamirx> | mmmh, supertram rocks |
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| 06:49 | <Celestar> | peter1138: http://pastebin.com/m36e3d465 |
| 07:01 | <rortom> | morning all |
| 07:01 | <Celestar> | hey |
| 07:04 | * | rortom understood the grf format :D |
| 07:04 | <rortom> | so if i may ask |
| 07:04 | <rortom> | when are conflicting grfs not loaded? |
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| 07:04 | <rortom> | means when are they conflicting? |
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| 07:06 | <Ammler> | rortom: Action9/7 and then ActionB |
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| 07:08 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | when the grf explicitly says so |
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| 07:09 | <rortom> | mhm |
| 07:09 | <rortom> | so if i load the canadian set and then the usset, what will happen? |
| 07:09 | <rortom> | do they overwrite? |
| 07:10 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | depends |
| 07:10 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | a) they can check if they are compatible with each other, then the second one gets disabled |
| 07:11 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | b) engine pool can be enabled, then both won't affect each other [mostly] |
| 07:11 | <rortom> | mh ok |
| 07:11 | <rortom> | and wow, the grf stuff is complex :p |
| 07:11 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | c) else the second one will override vehicles from the first one |
| 07:11 | <rortom> | thanks :) |
| 07:12 | <Noldo> | canadian set doesn't like enginepool, or is it changed? |
| 07:12 | <Ammler> | Noldo: there is no canada set anymore :-) |
| 07:12 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | Noldo: that version has been withdrawn |
| 07:13 | <rortom> | :/ |
| 07:13 | <Ammler> | !s/:-)/:-(/ |
| 07:13 | <rortom> | what grf combination do you use on OTTD:COOP? |
| 07:13 | <planetmaker> | I somewhat doubt that there'll be a resurrection. But hope dies last... |
| 07:13 | <planetmaker> | rortom: depends. Each time different :) |
| 07:14 | <Ammler> | currently the version before he coded against engine pool :-) |
| 07:14 | <Noldo> | interesting |
| 07:14 | <Ammler> | rortom: it is a svn repo, we have almost every version :-) |
| 07:15 | <planetmaker> | :) ^^ the god of the grf collectors has spoken ;) |
| 07:15 | <rortom> | oh :D |
| 07:15 | <rortom> | access? |
| 07:15 | <Ammler> | mäh |
| 07:15 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | Ammler turned into a sheep! |
| 07:15 | <planetmaker> | [12:25][12:25] <PublicServer> http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (GRFPack 7.1) |
| 07:16 | <rortom> | ah, you mean that :) |
| 07:16 | <rortom> | thats nice :) |
| 07:16 | <planetmaker> | there are older versions, accessible via svn... with password :P |
| 07:16 | <rortom> | :( |
| 07:16 | <planetmaker> | rortom: but the older, official releases are available, too |
| 07:16 | <rortom> | so where is the current grf combination you use? |
| 07:17 | <rortom> | ok, thanks |
| 07:17 | <planetmaker> | http://www.openttdcoop.org/blog/public-server/ |
| 07:17 | <Ammler> | rortom: in respect for authors, we do not allow public access to trunk |
| 07:17 | <rortom> | aha, ok :) |
| 07:17 | <Ammler> | actually, I am not sure, if it is closes |
| 07:18 | <Ammler> | you should always use the newest version |
| 07:19 | <rortom> | sure |
| 07:19 | <Ammler> | if you need for testing purposes an older version just pm us... |
| 07:19 | <rortom> | sure, thanks :) |
| 07:19 | <rortom> | i want to code some crawler, so old versions would be nice :) |
| 07:20 | <Ammler> | crawler? |
| 07:20 | <rortom> | like the grf crawler |
| 07:20 | <rortom> | just with live data |
| 07:20 | <Ammler> | well, the grf crawler isn't a crawler :-) |
| 07:20 | <rortom> | yep |
| 07:21 | <rortom> | thats why i want to code one ;) |
| 07:21 | <Ammler> | rortom: do you know grf2html? |
| 07:21 | <rortom> | no? |
| 07:21 | <Ammler> | check it, might help you too :-) |
| 07:21 | <rortom> | *checking* |
| 07:22 | <rortom> | urgh |
| 07:22 | <rortom> | pascal |
| 07:22 | <Ammler> | it might be OS, not sure |
| 07:22 | <Celestar> | I need a book on boost |
| 07:22 | <Ammler> | :-) |
| 07:23 | <rortom> | so gets boost a offical dependenccy for building ottd? |
| 07:24 | <Celestar> | rortom: it's header only |
| 07:24 | <Celestar> | rortom: we can just ship the files we need |
| 07:24 | <rortom> | Ammler: thanks for the tip :) |
| 07:24 | <rortom> | yes :) |
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| 07:26 | <Celestar> | we *could* make paxdest optional by compile time should we have platform problems |
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| 07:34 | <blathijs> | Celestar: Huh? What funky stuff are you doing to break paxdest on some platforms? |
| 07:35 | <Celestar> | blathijs: I'm not. |
| 07:35 | <Celestar> | blathijs: I'm using the boost library |
| 07:35 | <blathijs> | Ah |
| 07:35 | <Celestar> | which should bascially work everywhere where the stl works |
| 07:35 | <Celestar> | i.e. any platform that contains a non-stupid C++ compiler |
| 07:36 | <blathijs> | But we're already using STL, right? |
| 07:36 | <blathijs> | so that shouldn't be a problem? |
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| 07:36 | <blathijs> | though having a --without-boost compile option would be ok, though probably pretty impossible to maintain |
| 07:37 | <Celestar> | blathijs: it wouldn't be impossible to maintain |
| 07:37 | <Celestar> | it'd just disable paxdest |
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| 07:37 | <Celestar> | blathijs: I'm not willing to make an implementation where paxdest are all over the place |
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| 07:46 | <blathijs> | Celestar: Perhaps not impossible, but once we start using boost for paxdest, it will probably get used in other places as well. Though we might require that code only uses boost if it can be disabled, though. |
| 07:46 | <blathijs> | Celestar: What part of boost do you need, btw? |
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| 07:48 | <Celestar> | blathijs: the graph |
| 07:49 | <blathijs> | Ah, and graph reachability algorithms etc? |
| 07:49 | <Celestar> | possibly |
| 07:49 | <Celestar> | it has an A* and countless other algorithms implemented. |
| 07:49 | <Celestar> | it's no good to reinvent the wheel |
| 07:50 | <blathijs> | Isn't that what we do half of the time? :-p |
| 07:50 | <Celestar> | well, it's not good to continue to reinvent the wheel |
| 07:51 | <blathijs> | Just be sure that you use a wheel that fits well enough, though |
| 07:52 | <Ammler> | if the reinvention is better? |
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| 07:53 | <blathijs> | Because half of the time existing wheels turn out to not fit well enough once you start using it more, and in the other half of the time the wheel is so flexible with connection options for so many different types of carts that your cart will hardly move because the wheel is so heavy |
| 07:53 | <blathijs> | But, you can always invent a new wheel when that happens :-p |
| 07:53 | <Progman> | shouldn't the svn:ignore property of trunk/bin/scenario/heightmap/ contains "*.png"? |
| 07:53 | <Noldo> | I think it's a good idea to use BGL for now |
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| 07:54 | <Noldo> | later if it feels too heavy you can replace it, but then you know which features and parts of it you really need |
| 07:54 | <Noldo> | and you propably have somewhat clean interface |
| 07:57 | <Celestar> | I somehow need to map the route to the vehicles |
| 07:57 | <Celestar> | because a route can be served by many vehicles |
| 07:57 | <Celestar> | and I can only delete the route if the last vehicles has been removed |
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| 07:59 | <Celestar> | peter1138: I require your assistance |
| 08:01 | * | SpComb is very afraid of C++ |
| 08:01 | <SpComb> | haet haet |
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| 08:04 | <Celestar> | SpComb: ? |
| 08:05 | <+glx> | Celestar: can't you use the orders as an order is deleted when no vehicle use it |
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| 08:07 | * | Celestar thinks about what glx said |
| 08:07 | <Celestar> | do we have something like and OrderID? |
| 08:08 | <Celestar> | I somehow need to identify the route with a vehicle |
| 08:08 | <Celestar> | and preferably not by pointers |
| 08:09 | <Celestar> | because pointers in pools tend to move around |
| 08:09 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | vehicle id? |
| 08:09 | <Celestar> | that's what I'm planning at the moment, Eddi|zuHause2 |
| 08:12 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | hm... i have a feature request... cities that expand into villages should "consume" them [make them also cities] |
| 08:13 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | (like they become suburbs |
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| 08:14 | <+glx> | Celestar: yes we have OrderID |
| 08:27 | <Celestar> | glx: k. I'll see what is easier |
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| 08:28 | <Celestar> | glx: I hope the OrderID of an order does NEVER change in the course of a game |
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| 08:28 | <+glx> | it's the ID in the pool order |
| 08:28 | <Celestar> | so it's fixed |
| 08:28 | <+glx> | yes |
| 08:28 | <+glx> | like VehicleID |
| 08:30 | <Celestar> | good |
| 08:30 | <Celestar> | using that then |
| 08:30 | <Celestar> | not worry about shared vehicles |
| 08:33 | <Celestar> | hmpf |
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| 08:36 | <Celestar> | I can safely assume that sizeof(size_t) > sizeof(OrderID) right? |
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| 08:40 | <SpComb> | C++ is big, complicated and ugly |
| 08:40 | <Celestar> | SpComb: heh |
| 08:40 | <Celestar> | implementing paxdest in C will be bigger, more complicated and uglier, trust me |
| 08:40 | <Celestar> | .. |
| 08:41 | <Celestar> | ...(I never thought I'd ever say that) |
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| 08:42 | <SpComb> | I'm just more familiar with pretty C code than with any C++ code |
| 08:42 | <SpComb> | and so far my impression of the C++ code in OpenTTD is pretty bad, but that's mostly because it's been hacked into a C codebase |
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| 08:49 | <Celestar> | my routing code is pure C++ :D |
| 08:49 | <rortom> | :D |
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| 09:10 | <CIA-3> | OpenTTD: rubidium * r13796 /trunk/src/network/network_gui.cpp: -Fix [FS#2161]: one couldn't start the last scenario in the "start server window"'s list of scenarios. |
| 09:16 | <CIA-3> | OpenTTD: glx * r13797 /trunk/src/lang/english.txt: -Fix [FS#2160](r13715): crash when displaying save/load errors |
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| 09:29 | <Celestar> | the people in #boost are anything but helpful :S |
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| 09:32 | <rortom> | whats your problem? |
| 09:33 | <Celestar> | rortom: I'm not getting edge_range to work |
| 09:33 | <Celestar> | it's not happy with my parameters |
| 09:33 | <Celestar> | rortom: neither is edge() |
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| 09:33 | <Celestar> | remove_edge(), which takes the same parameters, works nicely |
| 09:36 | <Progman> | how to check in c if a string ends with ".png"? |
| 09:36 | <Celestar> | sometimes I love gcc error messages: http://pastebin.com/m415911eb |
| 09:36 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | anyone ever thought the pauli principle might be a good way to assign vehicles to road stops? :p |
| 09:37 | <ln> | the what? |
| 09:37 | <@Rubidium> | return strlen(str) > 4 && strcmp(str[strlen(str) - 4], ".png") == 0; (ugly though) |
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| 09:39 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauli_exclusion_principle |
| 09:40 | <Progman> | not working :(, invalid conversion from 'char' to 'const char*' |
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| 09:42 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | well... if there were a regexp lib, you could search for .png$ :p |
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| 09:49 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | or in python you could say str.endswith(".png") :p |
| 09:50 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | let's rewrite openttd in python! :p |
| 09:50 | <Yorick> | Eddi: #openttd-python? |
| 09:50 | <Yorick> | I thought so ^^ |
| 09:51 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | Yorick: why would i conciously enter a channel where you have op? |
| 09:52 | <Yorick> | because you wanted to rewrite openttd in python and I'm currently doing so? |
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| 09:54 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | because i made a joke and you took it seriously? |
| 09:55 | <Yorick> | we started before your joke |
| 09:56 | <Lachie> | look up with ur scriptz |
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| 09:56 | <Lachie> | *good luck |
| 09:56 | <Lachie> | umm |
| 09:56 | <Lachie> | I don't even know how that failure of typing occured |
| 09:56 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | Yorick: a) i know that, and b) that horrifies me even more |
| 09:57 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | Lachie: common typo :p |
| 09:57 | <Celestar> | where's peter1138 ? |
| 09:57 | <Lachie> | Eddi|zuHause2: ofcourse it is xD |
| 09:58 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | Lachie: the proper response is "the keys are right next to each other" :p |
| 09:58 | <Celestar> | heh. |
| 09:58 | <Lachie> | that was my thought, but it was too cliche |
| 09:58 | <Celestar> | I can already set up a route network and only needs 200 lines of code (= |
| 09:59 | <Lachie> | since "good luck" from "look up" isn't quite the similarity between "YOU ALL SUCK DICK" and "hi." |
| 09:59 | <hylje> | not at all |
| 10:00 | <Lachie> | lol |
| 10:01 | * | Lachie bed |
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| 10:05 | <Celestar> | GNAH |
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| 10:09 | <CIA-3> | OpenTTD: truebrain * r13798 /branches/noai/ (5 files in 2 dirs): [NoAI] -Add: AIEngine.IsBigPlane() (Yexo) (no, we really talk about airplanes) |
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| 10:17 | <Sacro> | @seen dominik87 |
| 10:17 | <@DorpsGek> | Sacro: I have not seen dominik87. |
| 10:17 | <Sacro> | @seen domini |
| 10:17 | <@DorpsGek> | Sacro: I have not seen domini. |
| 10:17 | <Sacro> | @seen dom* |
| 10:17 | <@DorpsGek> | Sacro: Dominik was last seen in #openttd 3 weeks, 6 days, 0 hours, 9 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <Dominik> our scummvm god! |
| 10:19 | <Yorick> | h was talking about Ludde |
| 10:21 | <Sacro> | @seen ludde |
| 10:21 | <@DorpsGek> | Sacro: ludde was last seen in #openttd 28 weeks, 0 days, 17 hours, 57 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <ludde> :) |
| 10:21 | <Celestar> | WTH? ludde and dominik were here? |
| 10:21 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | 28 weeks later... |
| 10:24 | <+glx> | Celestar: dominik is porting OTTD to DS |
| 10:24 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | Celestar: yeah, ludde was somewhat bored after he sold µtorrent, so he checked out what was going on here ;) |
| 10:25 | <Celestar> | heh :D |
| 10:25 | <rortom> | lol |
| 10:26 | <blathijs> | Is that the same dominik then? |
| 10:26 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | yes |
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| 10:35 | <+glx> | but dominik first came using another nick |
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| 10:39 | <ln> | are we talking about dominik81? |
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| 10:59 | <CIA-3> | OpenTTD: glx * r13799 /trunk/src/lang/ (36 files): -Fix (r13730): {RAW_STRING} should be used in english.txt only |
| 11:00 | <Celestar> | peter1138: status report: Setting up the route network works nicely, removing mostly. I've now got to skip at least non-station orders. I'm not here tomorrow so it'll be friday |
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| 11:02 | <CIA-3> | OpenTTD: smatz * r13800 /trunk/src/misc_gui.cpp: -Codechange: minor comment style fixes in misc_gui.cpp |
| 11:03 | <planetmaker> | whooo. The next 100 commits done :) |
| 11:04 | <Ammler> | SmatZ: only style fixes or adding the station grf infos? |
| 11:04 | <SmatZ> | only comment style fixes |
| 11:04 | <SmatZ> | long story... |
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| 11:17 | <Tim> | Hello everyone! |
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| 11:18 | <SmatZ> | hello Tim |
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| 11:20 | <Tim> | I have a question... I want to edit my .grfs via the config file and not the iname menu, as i want to be able to a) categorize them into groups like OpenGFX, ECSVectors, Trainsets etc. and b) don't want to add and remove them everytime via the ingame-menu, which takes quite some time. Now my question: How can i "disable" grfs in the cfg file without deleting them? There probably is a kind "comment-symbol", which leads to the game to not read what stan |
| 11:21 | <Ammler> | ";" or "#" |
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| 11:21 | <Tim> | okay |
| 11:21 | <Ammler> | but be aware of that ottd writes the config back after closing |
| 11:21 | <Tim> | argh -.- |
| 11:21 | <Ammler> | you could start ottd with -x |
| 11:22 | <Ammler> | with which version do you play? |
| 11:22 | <Tim> | latest nightly... |
| 11:22 | <Tim> | Just played on your server :P |
| 11:23 | <Tim> | And what does -x do? Prevent the config file to be overwritten? |
| 11:23 | <Ammler> | Tim: well, our server doesn't use the latest :-) |
| 11:23 | <Tim> | *almost* latest ;) |
| 11:23 | <Ammler> | but the latest nightly has presets, which rocks. |
| 11:24 | <Tim> | aah |
| 11:24 | <Tim> | just reading it... |
| 11:24 | <Tim> | -Feature: NewGRF presets, selected by a drop down list in the NewGRF window. Presets are saved in the config file. |
| 11:24 | <Ammler> | where? |
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| 11:24 | <Tim> | changes.log |
| 11:24 | <Ammler> | ok :-) |
| 11:25 | <Tim> | Hm, however it sounds not like the ultimate solution... I'd like an option to add a bunch of grf-files to my already selected ones, like all of the opengfx grfs |
| 11:25 | <Ammler> | I guess, you can then save your settings in a preset group |
| 11:25 | <Tim> | or remove them... |
| 11:25 | <Ammler> | and copy&paste them up |
| 11:26 | <Ammler> | that might be possible already before presets, btw... |
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| 11:26 | <Tim> | testing... |
| 11:27 | <Ammler> | create a goup [mynewgrflist] and c&p it to [newgrf] |
| 11:27 | <Brianetta> | Somebody on the coop server is desyncing |
| 11:28 | <Tim> | So i can add a group [OpenGFX] followed by the grfs, and then one [ECSVectors] etc, and those won't be overwritten? |
| 11:29 | <Yexo> | Tim: they'll only be overwritten if you save over them in the gui |
| 11:29 | <Ammler> | Yexo: are you sure? |
| 11:29 | <Yexo> | not 100% :) |
| 11:29 | <Ammler> | openttd does only delete goups which are known. |
| 11:30 | <Brianetta> | [autopilot][autopilot] sections have never been deleted by openttd |
| 11:30 | <Ammler> | as autopilot couldn't use the cfg too. |
| 11:30 | <Yorick> | Ammler: I don't think it deletes anything... |
| 11:30 | <Yexo> | so them I was right, as long as you use section names OpenTTD doesn't konw about |
| 11:30 | <Tim> | True, i also have a group [sharing] in my cfg |
| 11:31 | <Ammler> | so if you create a group [OpenGFX], that shouldn't be touched. |
| 11:31 | <Yexo> | Yorick: IIRC it deletes some old groups, when you update |
| 11:31 | <Ammler> | sadly |
| 11:31 | <Ammler> | that breaks usage of the cfg for different versions. |
| 11:31 | <DJNekkid> | train documentary on Discovery Channel! |
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| 11:33 | <Brianetta> | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7eBkvQNEaU |
| 11:34 | <Brianetta> | Train documentary on Youtube (: |
| 11:34 | <DJNekkid> | lol |
| 11:35 | <Yorick> | train documentary on openttd while playing! |
| 11:36 | <Brianetta> | I get a warm feeling whenever I fire up OpenTTD |
| 11:36 | <SmatZ> | :-) |
| 11:36 | <SmatZ> | Brianetta: sign of addiction |
| 11:36 | <Brianetta> | I can handle it |
| 11:37 | <SmatZ> | everyone says that :-) |
| 11:37 | <Brianetta> | I'm going to a help group on the 9th |
| 11:37 | <Brianetta> | in Leicester Square |
| 11:37 | <CIA-3> | OpenTTD: skidd13 * r13801 /trunk/ (Makefile.in config.lib): |
| 11:37 | <CIA-3> | OpenTTD: -Add: further configuration options to make packaging more union |
| 11:37 | <CIA-3> | OpenTTD: -Add: Unix man file gets now installed if necessary |
| 11:38 | <Brianetta> | That Youtube link, btw, is good |
| 11:38 | <DJNekkid> | ill see it in aprox 20 mins :) |
| 11:39 | <Tim> | Can i name my grf files like i want, or will they then not be found if i try connect to a server? |
| 11:40 | <planetmaker> | do as you like, Tim |
| 11:40 | <planetmaker> | md5sum matters |
| 11:40 | <Brianetta> | You can rename them, or put them in sub-folders |
| 11:40 | <Brianetta> | It'll find them if they're unaltered |
| 11:40 | <Tim> | That's good to know |
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| 11:52 | <DJNekkid> | could it be better? A cap on my lap, along with a laptop, and a steamer documentary |
| 11:53 | <CIA-3> | OpenTTD: skidd13 * r13802 /trunk/config.lib: -Fix(r13801): a few small typos |
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| 12:02 | <Ammler> | how do I commit something, if I get a "C" on svn st |
| 12:03 | <Ammler> | (there is no -force or such?) |
| 12:03 | <@Rubidium> | fix the conflict and then tell svn you resolved the conflict |
| 12:03 | <Ammler> | Rubidium: I have fixed, how do I tell, that I did? |
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| 12:03 | <SmatZ> | svn resolved |
| 12:03 | <DaleStan> | or svn help |
| 12:04 | <Ammler> | yeah |
| 12:04 | <Ammler> | thanks |
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| 12:08 | <Ammler> | Rubidium: sorry, that was obivous. |
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| 12:44 | <CIA-3> | OpenTTD: skidd13 * r13803 /trunk/ (Makefile.in config.lib): -Fix(r13801): Copy & paste mistakes |
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| 12:52 | <CIA-3> | OpenTTD: skidd13 * r13804 /trunk/config.lib: -Fix(r13801): a search after remove should help to find missed incarnations |
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| 12:59 | <CIA-3> | OpenTTD: skidd13 * r13805 /trunk/Makefile.in: -Fix(r13801): Missed a replacement |
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