| --- | Log | opened Wed Mar 19 00:00:29 2008 |
| --- | Day | changed Wed Mar 19 2008 |
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| 00:24 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | <ln> Draakon: who is miss Spelling? is she pretty? <- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tori_Spelling |
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| 02:30 | <ln> | http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-1309902,00.html |
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| 03:42 | <@peter1138> | Boobiedoob |
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| 03:46 | <Celestar> | whoops |
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| 03:55 | <@peter1138> | Hmm? |
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| 04:09 | <Celestar> | nothing |
| 04:09 | <Celestar> | just messed up some shit here :P |
| 04:13 | <Tefad> | sounds fun |
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| 04:18 | <Celestar> | :P |
| 04:18 | <Celestar> | back in a few |
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| 04:48 | <Celestar> | Weee |
| 04:48 | <Celestar> | the German Constitutionary Court has stopped another so called "anti-terror" law. |
| 04:49 | <Celestar> | They're the last bastion of sense and reason in this political system of nutters and paranoids. |
| 05:04 | <ln> | Oh no, the terrorists will win! |
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| 05:06 | <Fuju> | good morning |
| 05:06 | <Fuju> | one question: does anybody know if its possible to automatically buy town owned roads when building trams? right now, I have to remove all roads first, rebuild the roads and then place my tram rails afterwards which is a little PITA :) |
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| 05:07 | <Noldo> | it doesn't let you build tram on the town roads? |
| 05:08 | <ln> | you need to use a PATCH SETTING. |
| 05:10 | <Maedhros> | for building drive-through road stops on town-owned roads, yes. i didn't think you needed one for tram-tracks |
| 05:10 | <ln> | hmm, you're probably right. |
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| 05:13 | <Fuju> | Noldo, yes. It says "this is a town owned road" |
| 05:13 | <Fuju> | which patch setting would that be? I have looked trough the options and difficulty settings, but didnt see anything like that |
| 05:14 | <Fuju> | there's an option called "allow removal of city roads" or sth like that - but I have to rebuild the roads manually |
| 05:14 | <Maedhros> | in the "Configure patches" window, go to the Stations tab, and enable "Allow drive-through road stops on town owned roads" |
| 05:14 | <Maedhros> | but you shouldn't need it for building the tracks, only the stations |
| 05:15 | <Fuju> | let me check it |
| 05:16 | <Fuju> | great, that works! thanks alot. but shouldn't this option be on by default? |
| 05:17 | <Maedhros> | i've often wondered why it isn't, to be honest |
| 05:18 | <ln> | someone please rename the "CONFIGURE PATCHES" thing |
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| 05:21 | <Fuju> | wow, the trams are really nice |
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| 05:32 | <Celestar> | ln: rename to what? |
| 05:32 | <Celestar> | "Game options"? |
| 05:32 | <@peter1138> | "Big Gay Al's Big Gay List" |
| 05:35 | <Celestar> | Advanced Options? |
| 05:35 | <ln> | Celestar: for example Advanced options. |
| 05:35 | <Celestar> | "option" "Advanced Option" "Very Advanced Options" "1337 Options" |
| 05:36 | <ln> | Celestar: i mean, those things have never had anything to do with patches during the lifetime of OpenTTD. |
| 05:36 | <Celestar> | I quite agree. |
| 05:36 | <Celestar> | I've suggested to change this >1 times |
| 05:38 | <ln> | Celestar: also a good candidate name would be "Additional settings". |
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| 05:42 | <Celestar> | I just love astronauts. "Prodecude complete with no _unexpected_ errors" .... No mention of the about 100 expected errors or what? :P |
| 05:50 | <Gekz> | lol |
| 05:50 | <Gekz> | how misleading |
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| 05:57 | <@peter1138> | Of course, they're probably expecting anything to go wrong... |
| 05:58 | <Gekz> | Expected error occured: 0 == 1. |
| 05:58 | <Celestar> | :P |
| 05:58 | <Celestar> | well, considering it's the most complex machine ever made ... |
| 05:58 | <Gekz> | it doesnt effect anythign except all booleans |
| 05:58 | <Celestar> | the Orbiter I mean .. |
| 06:02 | <Fuju> | uhm...whenever I build a station in the central of a city, i immediately get >1000 passengers :( |
| 06:02 | <Tefad> | i think they mean failures |
| 06:03 | <Tefad> | sometimes you can plan for something to be out of spec, etc. |
| 06:03 | <Fuju> | and whatever I try, i cannot get that number down - except when I place another station in the neighborhood, which then takes over that high number |
| 06:03 | <Tefad> | but yeah, dumb. |
| 06:04 | <@DorpsGek> | peter1138: Open Bugs: 22; Not assigned: 15; Closed this week: 12; Opened this week: 9 |
| 06:04 | <Gekz> | Fuju: then turn it into a maglev |
| 06:04 | <@peter1138> | Hmmz |
| 06:04 | <Gekz> | Fuju: spam the crap out of it with maglevs :) |
| 06:04 | <Fuju> | 1994 :) |
| 06:05 | <Fuju> | no maglevs yet |
| 06:05 | <Gekz> | lol |
| 06:05 | <Gekz> | f-f-f-fail |
| 06:05 | <Celestar> | *yawns* |
| 06:05 | <Gekz> | just wait then |
| 06:05 | <Gekz> | slowly nuke land around it and purchase it |
| 06:05 | <Gekz> | so you have enough space for a nice station |
| 06:05 | <Fuju> | i was wondering if that happened also in the original. i can't remember having that high numbers, but its at least 10 years ago :) |
| 06:06 | <Gekz> | oh it happened. |
| 06:06 | <Celestar> | we've got bigger cities (= |
| 06:06 | <Tefad> | (not G rated) FAILMOUSE http://img.4chan.org/r9k/src/1205911168498.jpg |
| 06:06 | <Gekz> | kill him, its 4chan |
| 06:06 | <Tefad> | hmm, did i break a rule if forgot about this channel.. but the image isn't horrid |
| 06:06 | <Tefad> | you said f-f-f-fail... i couldn't help it : ( |
| 06:06 | <Gekz> | oh lol |
| 06:06 | <Gekz> | its fail |
| 06:07 | <Tefad> | that's a no kill trap btw. |
| 06:07 | <Gekz> | its so set up though |
| 06:07 | * | Tefad sighs |
| 06:07 | <Celestar> | hm ... ISS crew got a Japanese song as wake-up call today ^^ |
| 06:07 | <Tefad> | still amusing : D |
| 06:07 | <Tefad> | so now i have a bug up my ass to play ottd |
| 06:08 | <Celestar> | I wish I could play ottd as well |
| 06:08 | <Fuju> | s |
| 06:09 | <Tefad> | it's been a while since i've updated svn : x |
| 06:09 | <Fuju> | so...when do we get subways in openttd? :) |
| 06:09 | <Tefad> | i usually read all the entries too . . . |
| 06:09 | <Celestar> | Fuju: at some point ;) |
| 06:09 | <Tefad> | are there subways in ttdpatch? |
| 06:09 | <Fuju> | don't think so |
| 06:09 | <Fuju> | you are using c for openttd, right? |
| 06:09 | <Tefad> | c++ now |
| 06:09 | <Celestar> | C/C++ |
| 06:10 | <Tefad> | recently switched some parts to C++ (last 12mos?) |
| 06:10 | <Fuju> | oh nice...i should think about coding c++ again |
| 06:10 | <Celestar> | Tefad: yeah about |
| 06:11 | <Gekz> | why the switch? |
| 06:12 | <Celestar> | Gekz: on the long run, C++ offers more readable and maintainable code |
| 06:12 | <Celestar> | (if done right) |
| 06:12 | <Gekz> | hurray for logic! |
| 06:12 | <Gekz> | omg, 8kbit/s internet is going to suck |
| 06:12 | <Gekz> | 1KB/s this weekend, |
| 06:13 | <Tefad> | whoa no more msvc? |
| 06:13 | <Celestar> | Tefad: ? |
| 06:13 | <Tefad> | reading svn updates |
| 06:13 | <Celestar> | dunno |
| 06:13 | <Tefad> | someone got pissed at msvc 2003 or something |
| 06:14 | <Celestar> | rev? |
| 06:14 | <Tefad> | 11968 |
| 06:14 | <Celestar> | :S |
| 06:15 | <Tefad> | wrong one my bad |
| 06:15 | <Tefad> | 11979 |
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| 06:15 | <Celestar> | well, only 2003 support is dropped apparently |
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| 06:20 | <Tefad> | -Update: 'exit' is consistent with UK English in OpenTTD, 'quit' with US English |
| 06:20 | <Tefad> | hahaha years old. |
| 06:21 | <@peter1138> | Hmm? |
| 06:21 | <Gekz> | lol |
| 06:22 | <Gekz> | hardcore |
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| 06:27 | * | Maedhros_ stabs freebsd in the face |
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| 06:27 | <Maedhros_> | i just plugged in my ipod and got a kernel panic |
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| 06:32 | <@peter1138> | Err... |
| 06:32 | <Gekz> | Maedhros: it could sense Steve Jobs |
| 06:32 | <Tefad> | at least it's not the other steve |
| 06:33 | <Gekz> | steve ballmer is a tard |
| 06:33 | <Gekz> | a loltard |
| 06:33 | <Tefad> | don't get all chan-board on me. |
| 06:34 | <Gekz> | says you... |
| 06:34 | <Gekz> | I've never been to 4chan |
| 06:39 | <@peter1138> | chan-board? |
| 06:44 | <Tefad> | peter1138: just imagine the internet threw up on a bulletin board. |
| 06:46 | <Tefad> | oh and this equation usually helps: anonymity + audience = incompetent jerkwad |
| 06:47 | <Tefad> | most chans permit anonymous posting, some boards enforce anonymity |
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| 06:49 | <ln> | Eddi|zuHause3: sir, your nick is not in English. |
| 06:49 | <@peter1138> | What's a chan? |
| 06:50 | <Tefad> | japanese word |
| 06:50 | <Tefad> | maybe it's short for channel |
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| 06:50 | <Tefad> | i have no idea, nor do i care to google it right now : ) |
| 06:50 | <Tefad> | the concept for this style of bb came from japan |
| 06:51 | -!- | peter1138 changed the topic of #openttd to: 0.5.3, 0.6.0-beta5 | Website: *.openttd.org (DevBlog: blog, Translator: translator2, Gameservers: servers, Nightly-builds: nightly, NightlyArchive: archive, WIKI: wiki, SVN mailinglist: maillist, Dev-docs: docs, Patches & Bug-reports: bugs) | #openttd.notice for FS + SVN notices | UTF-8 and full font set are mandatory | No Unauthorised Bots | English Only - Must not be enforced by ln |
| 06:52 | <Tefad> | oh? je parle pas francais |
| 06:52 | <Tefad> | faire du velo |
| 06:52 | <Tefad> | i think that about exhausts my french vocabulary ; ) |
| 06:53 | <@peter1138> | That doesn't mean others can't enforce it :p |
| 06:53 | <Tefad> | oesday isthay ountcay? |
| 06:56 | <Gekz> | peter1138: ICH KANN HABE NEIN KATZE. |
| 06:57 | <Tefad> | don't ever talk about my mother like that again or i shall have to do something about it. |
| 06:57 | <Gekz> | Tefad: Deine Mutti ist nicht sehr gut. :) |
| 06:58 | <@peter1138> | Ok |
| 06:58 | -!- | peter1138 changed the topic of #openttd to: 0.5.3, 0.6.0-beta5 | Website: *.openttd.org (DevBlog: blog, Translator: translator2, Gameservers: servers, Nightly-builds: nightly, NightlyArchive: archive, WIKI: wiki, SVN mailinglist: maillist, Dev-docs: docs, Patches & Bug-reports: bugs) | #openttd.notice for FS + SVN notices | UTF-8 and full font set are mandatory | No Unauthorised Bots | English Only |
| 06:58 | <Gekz> | lol |
| 06:58 | <@peter1138> | ln, go for it. |
| 07:02 | <Celestar> | back |
| 07:02 | <Tefad> | Jatsu tsappari dikkali dallan Tittali tillan titstan dullaa, Dipidapi dallaa ruppati rupiran Kurikan kukka ja kirikan kuu |
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| 07:02 | <Noldo> | That's a classic |
| 07:03 | <Tefad> | willkommen? |
| 07:03 | <Tefad> | Rätsätsää ja ribidabi dilla Beritstan dillan dillan doo, A baribbattaa baribariiba Dibi dibidibi disten dillan doo |
| 07:04 | <Tefad> | MAKE IT STOPPPPP |
| 07:05 | <Tefad> | Ja barilla stillan deijadoo A daba daba daba daba daba dybjabuu, Baristal dillan stillan duubadäg Dägädägä duu duu deijadoo |
| 07:05 | * | Tefad retires |
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| 07:19 | <Celestar> | back |
| 07:20 | <Celestar> | we have a blog? |
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| 07:21 | <Tefad> | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjvVBCNcL_A |
| 07:23 | <ln> | peter1138: Tefad is clearly asking for a kick. |
| 07:23 | <Noldo> | Celestar: yes |
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| 07:27 | <@peter1138> | Celestar, yeah |
| 07:29 | <Celestar> | not very active, thou, right? :P |
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| 07:34 | <Fuju> | that's horrible german you talk here :) |
| 07:36 | <TheMasterSwordsman> | I'm irritated with "Can't replace track here..." and I *really* need to upgrade my track to monorail. How do I go about doing this? |
| 07:36 | <TheMasterSwordsman> | or "can't convert railtype here" |
| 07:38 | <Gonozal_VIII> | german? i can't see any german here |
| 07:38 | <Gonozal_VIII> | train on the track? using pbs and track is reserved? |
| 07:39 | <Gekz> | Gonozal_VIII: KUGELSCHREIBER |
| 07:39 | <Fuju> | someone above was talking english, looked like a poor babelfish translation |
| 07:40 | <Gonozal_VIII> | you know that you only need to write the first letter in uppercase, right?^^ |
| 07:40 | <@peter1138> | Yeah, upgrade empty track. Anything with trains on, including depots, cannot be upgraded. |
| 07:42 | <Gonozal_VIII> | and you can't upgrade places without tracks^^ |
| 07:43 | <Maedhros> | you also can't upgrade to the track type that's already there |
| 07:43 | <Gonozal_VIII> | and the loituma girl is from bleach |
| 07:44 | <Noldo> | bleach? |
| 07:44 | <Gonozal_VIII> | anime |
| 07:44 | <Gekz> | Gonozal_VIII: but pen is so aggressive |
| 07:45 | <Gonozal_VIII> | and not the same... |
| 07:47 | <Gonozal_VIII> | pens can be all kinds of types, a kugelschreiber is only a kugelschreiber if it has a ball (kugel) :-) |
| 07:48 | <Gekz> | yes I know |
| 07:48 | <Gekz> | but who uses any other kind of pen in this day and age |
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| 07:50 | <Gonozal_VIII> | http://www.fountainpen.de/pics/sini/old/Saftey1/nib-500.jpg we had to use those in school |
| 07:50 | <Gonozal_VIII> | ballpoints not allowed |
| 07:51 | <Gekz> | Gonozal_VIII: I wasnt aware you went to school in Nazi Germany |
| 07:53 | <keyweed> | One class, One teacher, One exam? |
| 07:53 | <Gonozal_VIII> | not really |
| 07:53 | <Gonozal_VIII> | but i think they're still using those in school |
| 07:53 | <keyweed> | i did. |
| 07:54 | <keyweed> | untill group 8 (about 12 years old) they were mandatory for me |
| 07:54 | <Gonozal_VIII> | with royal blue ink (or whatever that's called in english) |
| 07:54 | <keyweed> | indeed |
| 07:54 | <keyweed> | i went to a nazi school too :( |
| 07:55 | <keyweed> | well. that does explain my fascination for railroads ... and women in uniform. |
| 07:55 | <Fuju> | what is a nazi school? |
| 07:55 | <keyweed> | good question |
| 07:56 | <Fuju> | unless you are >60 years old, i doubt that you went to a nazi school |
| 07:56 | <Fuju> | german != nazi |
| 07:56 | <keyweed> | very unlikely indeed. their educational filosophy has grown quite impopular. |
| 07:56 | <keyweed> | *philosophy |
| 07:57 | <keyweed> | Fuju: i know. i (usually) like germans and always loath nazi's |
| 07:57 | <Gonozal_VIII> | i guess there are some schools that were founded by nazis... back then, everybody was a nazi |
| 07:58 | <Gekz> | I'm _still_ a Nazi. |
| 07:58 | <Gonozal_VIII> | ? |
| 07:58 | <keyweed> | Gonozal_VIII: when i was at the university of vienna last summer i noticed the heads of school from '37 to '46 were erased from history |
| 07:58 | * | Gekz is Hitler. |
| 07:58 | <Fuju> | well, almost everytime I'm on IRC the nazi topic comes up here and there - and people mostly think that german equals nazi |
| 07:58 | * | keyweed feeds Gekz a carpet |
| 07:58 | <Fuju> | as german, I can't accept this, for obvious reasons :) |
| 07:58 | <Gekz> | does it contain Cyanide? |
| 07:59 | <Gekz> | Fuju: I dont think Germans are Nazis. |
| 07:59 | <Gekz> | Nazi Germans are Nazis. |
| 07:59 | <keyweed> | Fuju: i'm dutch. and quite a germanophile :) |
| 07:59 | <Gekz> | Germans are French. |
| 07:59 | <Gekz> | everyone knows that |
| 07:59 | <Gonozal_VIII> | hehe, poor germans |
| 07:59 | <keyweed> | Gekz: they're all romans! |
| 08:00 | <Gekz> | keyweed: no u |
| 08:00 | <Fuju> | its similar to...like...americans are scientologists |
| 08:00 | <keyweed> | Fuju: all americans _are_ nazi's |
| 08:00 | * | keyweed takes cover |
| 08:01 | * | keyweed looks around for black helicopters |
| 08:01 | <Gekz> | keyweed: thats true though |
| 08:01 | <keyweed> | or at least religious fundamentalists |
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| 08:02 | <Fuju> | religion kills! believe in OpenTTD :) |
| 08:02 | <keyweed> | ooh shit. can't say that. that anti-democratic. it's only allowed to say that about those Others. |
| 08:03 | <keyweed> | my openttd worlds are socially, morally, fiancially and logisticly a lot better then this planet. |
| 08:03 | <Gekz> | keyweed: if you vote Obama, you're sexist. If you vote Clinton, you're racist. If you vote Republican, it doesnt matter who you vote for, you're retarded! |
| 08:04 | <keyweed> | Gekz: i don't even get to vote! and the idiot chosen still holds power over me! |
| 08:04 | <Gekz> | keyweed: awesome. |
| 08:04 | <Gekz> | keyweed: welcome to a police state. |
| 08:05 | <keyweed> | fight uni! |
| 08:05 | <keyweed> | ( http://www.amazon.com/This-Perfect-Day-Ira-Levin/dp/0394448588 ) |
| 08:10 | <Celestar> | my openttd worlds are socially, morally, fiancially and logisticly a lot better then this planet. <= that's not difficult |
| 08:10 | * | Celestar wishes to go to space |
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| 08:14 | <Gonozal_VIII> | space is boring |
| 08:14 | <Gonozal_VIII> | there's a lot of space |
| 08:14 | <@peter1138> | Celestar, after I've grown weary of you... |
| 08:15 | <Celestar> | peter1138: ? :P |
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| 08:20 | <Celestar> | Ming sucks |
| 08:20 | <Celestar> | sounds Chinese |
| 08:20 | <Celestar> | China sucks |
| 08:20 | <@peter1138> | ... |
| 08:21 | <Gekz> | lool |
| 08:22 | <keyweed> | Celestar: mind if i join you? |
| 08:22 | <keyweed> | i'd love to see an intelligent species one day |
| 08:22 | <Celestar> | keyweed: I agree |
| 08:23 | <Celestar> | but where are we going first? |
| 08:23 | <Celestar> | I'd still suggest Mars |
| 08:23 | <keyweed> | depends on our flight capabilities |
| 08:23 | <Celestar> | Mars is the maximum we can reasonably reach... |
| 08:24 | <Celestar> | or some Asteriods like Ceres or Vesta |
| 08:24 | <keyweed> | if it's ftl, let's get out of this pathetic solarsystem asap. if we're going to fly for a couple of hundred years, let's start with mars |
| 08:24 | <Gekz> | I'd say the max is just the Moon |
| 08:24 | <Gekz> | humans have a habit of failing |
| 08:24 | <keyweed> | nah. mars is possible |
| 08:24 | <keyweed> | quite easily i think |
| 08:24 | <Celestar> | We have sufficient technology and knowledge for a human Mission to Mars. |
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| 08:24 | <keyweed> | we have all the components, we just need to stick them together and show some determination |
| 08:25 | <Celestar> | all we need is 20th century technology, 19th century chemical engineering, a dose of common sense and a bit of moxie. |
| 08:25 | <keyweed> | but we seem more interestend in reducing our fellow sentient beings to heaps of carbonised material for no particular reason. |
| 08:25 | * | Celestar concurs |
| 08:25 | <keyweed> | which, altough a lot of fun, seems rather useless. |
| 08:26 | <Celestar> | A single human mission to Mars would cost about as much as the goverments of this planet spend on "Defense" ... PER DAY |
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| 08:27 | <Gekz> | knife a furry |
| 08:27 | <keyweed> | and after all this spending money on 'defense' we're unlikely to succesfully defend the planet against any spacefaring nations. |
| 08:27 | <keyweed> | *species |
| 08:27 | <keyweed> | the entire 'defense' thing is actually a plot to blow up this planet |
| 08:27 | <Celestar> | keyweed: we're unable to defend the planet against a 10km-Asteriod that would exterminated 60-95% of all life forms. |
| 08:27 | <Celestar> | exterminate even |
| 08:27 | <keyweed> | which, in all honesty, would totally negate the reasons for any sort of defense at all. |
| 08:28 | <Gekz> | lol |
| 08:28 | <Gekz> | I love it |
| 08:28 | <Gekz> | its going to happen |
| 08:28 | <Gekz> | and I will get hit first |
| 08:28 | <Gekz> | I'm lucky like that |
| 08:28 | <keyweed> | so. in short. we're achieving utterly nothing while spending loads of resources. |
| 08:28 | <Celestar> | you don't need to be hit. |
| 08:28 | <Gekz> | i know |
| 08:28 | <Celestar> | you would instantly evaporate if you were anywhere in line-of-sight of the trajectory. |
| 08:28 | <Gekz> | but it will whack me in the head first |
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| 08:29 | <keyweed> | we'll be demolished to make way for a galactic bypass |
| 08:29 | <Gekz> | lol |
| 08:29 | <Gekz> | (c) |
| 08:29 | <Celestar> | Hell, a 10km asteroid could kill around 500 million people even without crashes, by just passing through the atmosphere |
| 08:29 | <keyweed> | we haven't even bothered to check nearby space for any form of galactic adminstration |
| 08:29 | <keyweed> | Celestar: and we're lucky if we even see it comming |
| 08:30 | <Celestar> | keyweed: a 10km-asteroid we would see. |
| 08:30 | <keyweed> | they can track objects the sizes of birds over the entire american continent, but a 10 km asteroid ... |
| 08:30 | <Celestar> | keyweed: we have over 99% discovery rate for asteroids of this size. |
| 08:30 | <keyweed> | ow. |
| 08:30 | <Gonozal_VIII> | still 1% left |
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| 08:30 | <keyweed> | apparently my data is outdated. |
| 08:30 | <Celestar> | but any reasonable defense theory needs at least 10 years time. |
| 08:31 | <Gonozal_VIII> | and discovering it wouldn't help much |
| 08:31 | <Celestar> | "Earth is way to small a place for mankind to put its eggs in" |
| 08:31 | <keyweed> | well, our species does have a nack to rise to the occasion |
| 08:32 | <Celestar> | hee, well said |
| 08:32 | <Gonozal_VIII> | yep, i don't think an asteroid could kill us |
| 08:32 | <miso> | Hi |
| 08:32 | <keyweed> | war and catastrophe does seem to result in near immediate scientific advances |
| 08:32 | <Gonozal_VIII> | even if the whole planet would be covered in clouds for decades |
| 08:32 | <Celestar> | Gonozal_VIII: we couldn't survive without the sun. |
| 08:33 | <Gonozal_VIII> | some could |
| 08:33 | <Celestar> | keyweed: you ought to read "Entering Space" by Robert Zubrin. it's great reading. |
| 08:33 | <Gonozal_VIII> | artificial light underground... |
| 08:33 | <Celestar> | Gonozal_VIII: some yes. 10% maximum. |
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| 08:33 | <keyweed> | Celestar: added to the list |
| 08:33 | <Celestar> | keyweed: :) |
| 08:33 | <keyweed> | not that i'll ever finnish my toread list :P |
| 08:33 | <Gonozal_VIII> | 10% is way more than enough |
| 08:34 | <Celestar> | globally speaking yes. |
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| 08:34 | <keyweed> | you only need a couple of men, and a substantially larger number of women |
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| 08:34 | <keyweed> | but the first couple of generation won't be fun |
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| 08:35 | <Gonozal_VIII> | but we as a species would survive almost anything |
| 08:35 | <Celestar> | keyweed: IF you forbid 1:1-relationships for a reasonable amount of time. |
| 08:36 | <keyweed> | Celestar: yes. actually, you need to set op a carefully planned breeding program, which most people would find morally unacceptable |
| 08:36 | <Celestar> | keyweed: I guess the same people that find it morally acceptable to reduce the race in the first place :P |
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| 08:36 | <keyweed> | including me, but .. well. can't let your species die out. ever. |
| 08:37 | <keyweed> | 'go forth and control your population numbers' hasn't been very popular no... |
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| 08:39 | <Celestar> | humans suck :S |
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| 08:43 | <Celestar> | sucks |
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| 09:18 | <@Belugas> | [08:39][08:39] <Celestar> humans suck :S <--- yup. they do. Although i never tried the male part of it... |
| 09:19 | <Celestar> | :P |
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| 09:33 | * | Celestar feels sick |
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| 09:34 | <SmatZ> | :-( |
| 09:37 | * | Belugas feels the need for a coffee |
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| 10:34 | <yorick> | hello |
| 10:36 | <yorick> | those who are watching openttd.notice: as you can see, I've FS#1866, and for those who aren't: now you know :) |
| 10:36 | <yorick> | +posted+* |
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| 10:37 | <@peter1138> | http://www.seanbaby.com/nes/naughty04.htm |
| 10:37 | <@peter1138> | :o |
| 10:39 | <yorick> | :o |
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| 10:41 | <yorick> | @bugs |
| 10:41 | <@DorpsGek> | yorick: Error: The command "bugs" is available in the OpenTTD and WT2 plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "bugs". |
| 10:41 | <@DorpsGek> | yorick: Open Bugs: 22; Not assigned: 15; Closed this week: 12; Opened this week: 9 |
| 10:42 | <yorick> | looks good ^^ you're at extra -3 bug count this week |
| 10:45 | <Celestar> | @commit |
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| 10:45 | <@DorpsGek> | Celestar: Commit by peter1138 :: r12383 trunk/src/saveload.cpp (2008-03-18 23:01:33 UTC) |
| 10:45 | <@DorpsGek> | Celestar: -Fix [FS#1860]: Check return of AfterLoadGame for success or failure when loading TTD games. |
| 10:45 | <@peter1138> | Still no branch, heh |
| 10:45 | <yorick> | I think it would be nice if all flags are in 0.6.0 :) |
| 10:45 | <Celestar> | what branch? |
| 10:46 | <Celestar> | 0.6? |
| 10:46 | <yorick> | poor estonian and greek people, yes Celestar |
| 10:46 | <@peter1138> | Yar |
| 10:46 | <@peter1138> | yorick: not a chance |
| 10:46 | <Celestar> | what bugs need fixing before branching 0.6? |
| 10:46 | <@peter1138> | 1861 |
| 10:46 | <@peter1138> | Er |
| 10:46 | <@peter1138> | 1841 |
| 10:47 | <Celestar> | any idea what causes the crash? |
| 10:47 | <@peter1138> | yeah |
| 10:47 | <yorick> | invalid tracktype or something |
| 10:47 | * | Celestar goes having a look- |
| 10:47 | <@peter1138> | SmatZ has already got somewhere with it |
| 10:47 | <Celestar> | can I assume that it doens't work without newgrfs? |
| 10:48 | <Celestar> | he did? |
| 10:48 | <@peter1138> | afaik the bug does not appear without newgrfs either |
| 10:48 | <@peter1138> | FS#1838... no idea on that one |
| 10:48 | <Celestar> | wtf ... |
| 10:48 | <Celestar> | it tries to save an exe file :P |
| 10:48 | <yorick> | I wonder what the lost trackbits at 1841 are doing |
| 10:48 | <@peter1138> | yeah, stupid flyspray :) |
| 10:49 | <Celestar> | all the newgrfs are needeD? |
| 10:50 | <yorick> | hmm...build while pause is enabled on that one aswell |
| 10:50 | <yorick> | are you sure it has to do with train 6? |
| 10:50 | <yorick> | because, if I let it stop and remove track in front of it, the crash still hapens |
| 10:50 | <SmatZ> | yorick: FS#1841 is because of train with wagons of different length is reversed while leaving a depot |
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| 10:52 | <yorick> | ah yeah... |
| 10:52 | <yorick> | its actually 3, because if I reverse that one it doesn't crash |
| 10:53 | <yorick> | well..it just happens later |
| 10:53 | <yorick> | have to go now, bye! |
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| 10:54 | <Celestar> | GAH |
| 10:54 | <Celestar> | SmatZ: what version of the trainset is needed? |
| 10:54 | <Celestar> | it complains about 0.87.3 |
| 10:56 | <SmatZ> | Celestar: you have too recent one, I have 0.87.2 |
| 10:57 | <Celestar> | SmatZ: could you send me the file? |
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| 10:59 | <Celestar> | hi skidd13 |
| 10:59 | <skidd13> | Hi Celestar |
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| 11:00 | <skidd13> | lobster: Any more information from your nightly problem? |
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| 11:00 | <lobster> | you mean the OSX nightly not working? |
| 11:00 | <skidd13> | yes |
| 11:01 | <skidd13> | any debug output or just not starting? |
| 11:02 | <Celestar> | (gdb) p chosen_track |
| 11:02 | <Celestar> | $1 = TRACK_BIT_NONE |
| 11:02 | <Celestar> | that's the one right? |
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| 11:08 | <Celestar> | SmatZ: let's continue this here. |
| 11:08 | <Celestar> | peter1138: you got a sec for FS#1841? |
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| 11:10 | <Sacro> | wow |
| 11:11 | <Sacro> | Celestar and skidd13, it's like being in last year :) |
| 11:11 | <Celestar> | (= |
| 11:11 | <Celestar> | yeah |
| 11:11 | <Sacro> | who next... DarkVater, HackyKid? |
| 11:12 | <skidd13> | lol... so true... |
| 11:12 | <Gonozal_VIII> | actually it's a skidd15 in disguise.. but don't tell anybody |
| 11:12 | <Celestar> | SmatZ: in that savegame of yours, the train is already in the depot, right? |
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| 11:12 | * | skidd13 engages his 44 magnum to make this skidd15 an end |
| 11:12 | <Celestar> | I *really* hope it's a .44 Magnum |
| 11:13 | <Celestar> | because a 44 Magnum would be a tad large :P |
| 11:13 | <hylej_> | awesome! |
| 11:13 | <skidd13> | lol yes.... maybe watch too much Sledge Hammer |
| 11:13 | <Celestar> | 112cm Caliber |
| 11:13 | <Celestar> | :P |
| 11:13 | <Celestar> | that'S more like an ICBM |
| 11:14 | <skidd13> | Sledge would love it :D |
| 11:17 | <Celestar> | :P |
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| 11:37 | <Celestar> | peter1138: 1841 is freaky |
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| 11:47 | <lobster> | skidd13: sorry, i was away for a bit |
| 11:48 | <lobster> | anyway, it just won't start |
| 11:48 | <lobster> | even the freshest of fresh installs |
| 11:48 | <lobster> | 0.6.0 runs fine though |
| 11:48 | -!- | dih is now known as anhedral |
| 11:49 | <skidd13> | 0.6.0 ? |
| 11:49 | <@Belugas> | lobster, do you mean that OTTD as a whole does not start? |
| 11:49 | <@Belugas> | or specific parts of it? |
| 11:49 | <lobster> | the nightlies for OSX, they simply don't start at all |
| 11:49 | <@Belugas> | any messages? |
| 11:49 | <+glx> | use the powerpc version |
| 11:49 | <lobster> | only seconds after executing it quits again |
| 11:49 | <hylej_> | lob lob |
| 11:50 | <lobster> | no messages at all... and i have an Intel iMac, glx |
| 11:50 | <lobster> | PPC won't run |
| 11:50 | <lobster> | Rosetta doesn't pick it up either |
| 11:50 | <+glx> | intel version doesn't work on on OSX 10.5 |
| 11:50 | <lobster> | quite |
| 11:50 | <lobster> | which is my OS |
| 11:50 | <+glx> | but powerpc should |
| 11:50 | <Celestar> | @commit 2428 |
| 11:50 | <@DorpsGek> | Celestar: Commit by hackykid :: r2428 /trunk (10 files in 2 dirs) (2005-06-06 22:44:11 UTC) |
| 11:50 | <@DorpsGek> | Celestar: - Feature: [newgrf] Implement shorter train vehicles (Therax), and the callback that goes with it. |
| 11:50 | <@DorpsGek> | Celestar: - Codechange: Remove some magic numbers (PALETTE_CRASH) |
| 11:51 | <lobster> | glx: nothing PPC-based runs on an Intel |
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| 11:51 | <Eddi|zuHause3> | lobster: there's an emulation mode |
| 11:51 | <+glx> | with rosetta it should |
| 11:51 | <+glx> | as others use this trick too |
| 11:51 | <lobster> | i tried it with Rosetta |
| 11:52 | <lobster> | gives pretty much the same result |
| 11:52 | <lobster> | anyway, t'is odd it's not been fixed anyway |
| 11:52 | <lobster> | although, ofcourse, i don't wish to complain |
| 11:52 | <+glx> | the problem is the compile farm itself |
| 11:52 | <lobster> | aye, t'is? |
| 11:52 | <+glx> | but you can compile yourself |
| 11:52 | <lobster> | hmm, i could |
| 11:52 | <lobster> | but it's, well |
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| 11:54 | <lobster> | difficult? |
| 11:54 | * | lobster never tried |
| 11:54 | <+glx> | easier than on windows |
| 11:55 | <lobster> | i have installed the developement kit anyway |
| 11:55 | <lobster> | i could give it a try |
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| 12:03 | <@peter1138> | Can the compile farm be fixed? |
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| 12:04 | <+glx> | probably, it needs some files |
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| 12:10 | <Celestar> | @commit 12331 |
| 12:10 | <Celestar> | @answer me |
| 12:10 | <Celestar> | oops |
| 12:10 | <Celestar> | :P |
| 12:10 | <Yorick> | it is like...gone |
| 12:11 | <Celestar> | yeah |
| 12:11 | <Celestar> | seen that too late |
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| 12:11 | <@DorpsGek> | Yorick: Commit by glx :: r12331 /trunk/src (4 files) (2008-03-03 20:56:30 UTC) |
| 12:11 | <@DorpsGek> | Yorick: -Feature: [NewGRF] vehicle variable FE bit 8 |
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| 12:14 | <Celestar> | SmatZ: I've messed around with VehicleEnter_* quite a lot. Where do you think the problem is? |
| 12:14 | <Yorick> | FS 1804 could be closed; no savegame to proof anything, disconnecting train could happen because of missing newstations grf's |
| 12:15 | <Yorick> | He could request reopening if he has recreated anything :) |
| 12:15 | <@peter1138> | Heh, was just looking at that one |
| 12:16 | <Yorick> | Tomorrow is the big day, the end of winter |
| 12:16 | <@peter1138> | Bwhahaha |
| 12:16 | <Celestar> | it's snowing |
| 12:16 | <SmatZ> | Celestar: http://88.146.45.107/ttd/fs1841-reverse-twice.sav I have a debug info showing me wagon leaves depot too early here |
| 12:16 | <SmatZ> | so I am near to fix it |
| 12:16 | <SmatZ> | I hope |
| 12:16 | <SmatZ> | at least this case :) |
| 12:16 | <@peter1138> | We've got snow predicted for Saturday... |
| 12:17 | <@Belugas> | argh.... |
| 12:17 | <Maedhros> | :o |
| 12:17 | <@Belugas> | don't say that word :( |
| 12:17 | <@peter1138> | What, Saturday? |
| 12:17 | <@Belugas> | naaa |
| 12:17 | <SmatZ> | :-D |
| 12:17 | <Celestar> | heya Belugas :) |
| 12:17 | <@Belugas> | the other S word |
| 12:17 | <Celestar> | it rhymes with "know" :P |
| 12:17 | <Sacro> | sknow? |
| 12:18 | <SmatZ> | we had a lot of know here yesterday |
| 12:18 | <Sacro> | show? |
| 12:18 | <Sacro> | :o slow? |
| 12:18 | <@Belugas> | blow |
| 12:18 | <Celestar> | suck |
| 12:18 | <Celestar> | :P |
| 12:18 | <@Belugas> | lol |
| 12:18 | <SmatZ> | :) |
| 12:19 | <lobster> | glx: who is in charge of the compile farm? |
| 12:19 | * | lobster doesn't know |
| 12:19 | <Celestar> | TB is, isn'T he? |
| 12:19 | <Yorick> | TrueBrain? |
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