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| 06:18 | <Dr_Jekyll> | Error: Long Vehicles v3. AI Manager File has has to be loaded.<-- What is this trying to tell me? |
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| 06:34 | <@peter1138> | That George is an idiot? |
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| 06:43 | <Dr_Jekyll> | does it? my english is not the best... |
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| 07:13 | <Draakon> | hi |
| 07:15 | <ln-> | hi, Draakon! nice to see you again! |
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| 07:21 | <Draakon_> | pff, stupid electricity |
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| 07:28 | <ln-> | hi, Draakon! nice to see you again! |
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| 08:07 | <Tekky> | are there maybe more detailed instructions for compiling OpenTTD with MinGW somewhere, because I was unable to compile it with a fresh installation of MinGW/MSYS? |
| 08:08 | <Tekky> | I've installed zlib afterwards with "make" and "make install", but the build still fails with the error message that it cannot find zlib.h. |
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| 08:14 | <Tekky> | ah, I've resolved the issue, I had to install the include and library files into the MinGW directory instead to /usr/include |
| 08:14 | <Tekky> | instead to = instead of |
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| 08:38 | <Sacro> | knowing me knowing you it's the best i can do |
| 08:40 | <keyweed_> | abba! |
| 08:40 | <keyweed_> | what did i win? |
| 08:40 | <Sacro> | nothing |
| 08:41 | <keyweed_> | :( |
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| 08:42 | <Sacro> | so i wanna know, what's the name of the game? does it mean anything to you? |
| 08:42 | <Sacro> | i have no prizes on me |
| 08:43 | <keyweed> | i know my abba. |
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| 08:58 | <Sacro> | don't go wasting your emotion, lay all your love on me |
| 08:59 | <keyweed> | flying high, high like a bird in the sky |
| 08:59 | <Sacro> | ooh, i like that one |
| 09:01 | <keyweed> | there's not a soul out there, no one to hear my prairs |
| 09:01 | <Sacro> | damnit i need to download an Abba Discography |
| 09:05 | <Sacro> | 122kB/s, not bad |
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| 09:08 | <Sacro> | if you change your mind, i'm the first in line |
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| 09:22 | <keyweed> | my, my, at waterloo napoleon did surrender |
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| 10:13 | <LordAzamath> | Ammler: You here? |
| 10:13 | <Ammler> | somehow :-) |
| 10:13 | <LordAzamath> | :) |
| 10:14 | <Ammler> | I have question for you :-) |
| 10:14 | <LordAzamath> | I saw your post about ammler>Ammler... |
| 10:14 | <Ammler> | lol |
| 10:14 | <SmatZ> | ammler > Ammler ? |
| 10:14 | <Ammler> | you read the whole Forums? |
| 10:14 | <LordAzamath> | and the correct place is http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=35950 |
| 10:14 | <LordAzamath> | Ammler: well.. new posts is one link I sometimes click :P |
| 10:15 | <Ammler> | oh, it needs admin work :/ |
| 10:15 | <Ammler> | LordAzamath: my question for you: |
| 10:15 | <LordAzamath> | :) |
| 10:16 | <Ammler> | OTTD does now support townnames grf |
| 10:16 | <LordAzamath> | town names yes |
| 10:16 | <LordAzamath> | station names no |
| 10:16 | <Ammler> | so I liked to add them and saw, you made also one |
| 10:16 | <LordAzamath> | I've got one better.. |
| 10:16 | <LordAzamath> | :P |
| 10:16 | <LordAzamath> | sitting at HD |
| 10:16 | <Ammler> | my question is, how to I see, what to enter in the cfg? |
| 10:17 | <+glx> | add them in the grf list |
| 10:17 | <LordAzamath> | yes |
| 10:17 | <+glx> | that's all |
| 10:17 | <@peter1138> | Those name changes are silly... |
| 10:17 | <Ammler> | town_name = english |
| 10:17 | <LordAzamath> | and then choose names from the list.. in-game |
| 10:17 | <LordAzamath> | I don't know how to get them by cfg |
| 10:17 | <Ammler> | you know, ottdc_grfpack is for servers... |
| 10:17 | <+glx> | they will be saved as a number in the cfg |
| 10:18 | <Ammler> | can I see that number in the nfo or where? |
| 10:18 | * | LordAzamath doesn't know |
| 10:18 | * | LordAzamath finds that out |
| 10:19 | <+glx> | this number is num_original + index in grf |
| 10:19 | <LordAzamath> | wait a mom : |
| 10:19 | <LordAzamath> | ( |
| 10:19 | <@peter1138> | If you're going to abbreviate moment, the correct short form is mo'. |
| 10:20 | <Ammler> | mom is something else? :-) |
| 10:20 | <+glx> | Ammler: try in a normal openttd :) |
| 10:20 | <Ammler> | glx: there are also GRFs which multiple types of names |
| 10:20 | <keyweed> | so .. the phrase "mo' money mo' problems" actually means... |
| 10:20 | <Ammler> | like canadian or spanish |
| 10:20 | <+glx> | yes |
| 10:21 | <@peter1138> | I've never heard that phrase. |
| 10:21 | <Ammler> | well, I watch it local... |
| 10:21 | <+glx> | if you use only one grf it's num_original + index in grf |
| 10:21 | <keyweed> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mo_Money_Mo_Problems |
| 10:21 | <Ammler> | glx: what about using ID? |
| 10:21 | <@peter1138> | Oh, a song. |
| 10:22 | <@peter1138> | From an idito. |
| 10:22 | <@peter1138> | Idiot. |
| 10:22 | <+glx> | if you use more than one it's num_original + number of definitions in grfs before + index in grf |
| 10:22 | <@peter1138> | So who knows or cares what that may mean. |
| 10:22 | <keyweed> | well, he didn't event the phrase. |
| 10:22 | <keyweed> | he just slangified it using modern and hip abbreviations |
| 10:22 | <keyweed> | *invent |
| 10:22 | <@peter1138> | Still an idiot. |
| 10:22 | <keyweed> | i can agree on that. |
| 10:23 | <keyweed> | but being a narcistic arrogant fucker, i find |
| 10:23 | <keyweed> | most people idiots. |
| 10:24 | <Sacro> | keyweed: that sentence makes no sense |
| 10:24 | <Sacro> | :P |
| 10:24 | <+glx> | Ammler: the easier way to know the number is to add the grfs in a normal ottd (not server) and select the townname you want, then use the same order in the server cfg and use the same value |
| 10:24 | <LordAzamath> | glx: So the town_name = 21 options under [gameopt] ? |
| 10:24 | <keyweed> | Sacro: i know. my mind is failing. |
| 10:25 | <Ammler> | glx: well, I thought about forcing to have it as first grf always |
| 10:25 | <+glx> | doesn't matter |
| 10:25 | <Ammler> | I check whats easiest with our web configurator |
| 10:26 | <+glx> | as the index is the index in the townnames list after grf loading |
| 10:26 | <Ammler> | ah, ok... |
| 10:26 | <Ammler> | so if you include only one town name grf the id is always the same |
| 10:26 | <+glx> | yes |
| 10:27 | <Ammler> | well, then you only have to check the internal id, if more then one type in one grf... |
| 10:28 | <Ammler> | glx: strange, i made test with spanish |
| 10:28 | <Ammler> | hmm, or is catalan original.. |
| 10:29 | <+glx> | town_names are inserted in the begining of the list |
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| 10:29 | <+glx> | third->second->first |
| 10:30 | <+glx> | and ids are 0->1->2 |
| 10:31 | <Ammler> | currently is 21 |
| 10:31 | <Ammler> | if only one grf and one type in it |
| 10:32 | <LordAzamath> | :) |
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| 10:33 | <+glx> | yes there are 21 original generators (0->20) |
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| 10:42 | <LordAzamath> | Ammler: I now posted another town-generator if you wish to know :) |
| 10:42 | <Ammler> | same thread? |
| 10:42 | <Ammler> | new or update? |
| 10:43 | <LordAzamath> | well.. new |
| 10:43 | <LordAzamath> | because they are too different |
| 10:44 | <LordAzamath> | one is Estonian style.. the other is Estonian sounding |
| 10:44 | <LordAzamath> | and still my random thread |
| 10:44 | <Ammler> | I testest your GRF with 2048² map and many towns :-) |
| 10:44 | <LordAzamath> | try with this |
| 10:44 | <LordAzamath> | now you shouldn't get any similar names :P |
| 10:45 | <LordAzamath> | Only problem is that one randomizing doesn't work, because I ran out of free bits.. |
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| 10:46 | <LordAzamath> | all towns which start with xxx or yyy will get - zzzz to end.. |
| 10:46 | <Ammler> | I specially like the japan towns |
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| 10:46 | <LordAzamath> | but zzz is different in every instance |
| 10:46 | <Ammler> | now its possible to play more japanish, I took silly names in past :-) |
| 10:46 | <LordAzamath> | :P |
| 10:47 | <LordAzamath> | and xxx or yyy is every new game totally random.. You'll see if you try my new grf.. |
| 10:47 | <LordAzamath> | and list towns by name |
| 10:47 | <Ammler> | still in your cookies thread? |
| 10:47 | <LordAzamath> | random thread :P |
| 10:47 | <Ammler> | ah, yes |
| 10:47 | <Ammler> | :) |
| 10:47 | <LordAzamath> | I could rename it to cookies too, when I have some cookies to offer :P |
| 10:48 | <LordAzamath> | but takes a while.. |
| 10:48 | <Ammler> | well, they are nice... |
| 10:48 | <LordAzamath> | town names? |
| 10:48 | <Ammler> | we a table where all sets with used IDs are listed |
| 10:49 | <Ammler> | (for your invisible train) |
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| 10:49 | <LordAzamath> | you have? |
| 10:50 | <LordAzamath> | Ammler: That would rock :) |
| 10:50 | <Ammler> | oh, misstyped :-) |
| 10:50 | <Ammler> | well, I playing around with grfcodec and grf2html |
| 10:51 | <LordAzamath> | you fail engils? apossible :D |
| 10:51 | <Ammler> | like to fetch Names and GRFIDs from there directly |
| 10:51 | <LordAzamath> | It's kinda hard to understand if some words are missing :P |
| 10:53 | <Ammler> | in fact, I don't have it yet, but I would like to have it :-) |
| 10:54 | <Ammler> | well, with peters dyn patch, it will be obsolete anyway... |
| 10:54 | <LordAzamath> | well..true |
| 10:54 | <LordAzamath> | but where is that patch anyway? |
| 10:54 | <Ammler> | check Gonozal Patchpack |
| 10:54 | <LordAzamath> | it's there? |
| 10:54 | <Ammler> | yep |
| 10:55 | <Ammler> | you need another "inofficial" grf from his filerepo to use dbsetdb with ecs or some other things... |
| 10:56 | <Ammler> | !s/db/xl/ |
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| 11:01 | <LordAzamath> | oh shi* |
| 11:01 | <LordAzamath> | it does work :O |
| 11:02 | <LordAzamath> | the engine pools or wahtever the name is now :P |
| 11:02 | <@peter1138> | Hmm? |
| 11:03 | <LordAzamath> | peter1138: I just got a shock seeing too many available trains :P |
| 11:03 | <@peter1138> | Yeah, that's right. It adds a pool for engines. |
| 11:05 | * | LordAzamath has an awful headache :( |
| 11:05 | <@peter1138> | Chop it off. |
| 11:06 | <LordAzamath> | how can one chop off a headache? |
| 11:07 | <@peter1138> | At the neck. |
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| 11:07 | <LordAzamath> | headaches are located in the neck? |
| 11:07 | <LordAzamath> | ::O |
| 11:08 | <@peter1138> | No, but that'll stop it. |
| 11:08 | <LordAzamath> | but it'll stop several ither things too |
| 11:08 | <LordAzamath> | other* |
| 11:10 | <Ammler> | Hmm, do I need to install locate "just for nforenum"? |
| 11:10 | <Ammler> | Warning: boost::date_time not found. \w<date> and \d<date> will not be |
| 11:10 | <Ammler> | supported. If you have recently installed boost, try sudo updatedb. |
| 11:10 | <Ammler> | (boost is installed) |
| 11:11 | <DaleStan> | Got a better way to find your boost folder? |
| 11:11 | <@peter1138> | Most systems have locate installed by default. |
| 11:11 | <Ammler> | well, I do then... |
| 11:12 | <DaleStan> | It was deemed a Bad Thing to have every possible location listed in the Makefile, and for it to test them all sequentially. |
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| 11:12 | <Ammler> | oh, I could edit the makefile? |
| 11:13 | <@peter1138> | Does boost not do the pkg-config thing? |
| 11:14 | <Gonozal_VIII> | blinking |
| 11:14 | <Gonozal_VIII> | ah, ammler mentioned me |
| 11:14 | <Ammler> | I used not your full name to not disturb you :-) |
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| 11:15 | <LordAzamath> | Gonozal_VIII: Don't blink |
| 11:15 | <Gonozal_VIII> | nobody does, so full highlight would be pointless |
| 11:15 | <Gonozal_VIII> | except tabcomplete people... |
| 11:16 | <LordAzamath> | :O |
| 11:16 | <Gonozal_VIII> | but they usually write gonewacko or something then... |
| 11:16 | <LordAzamath> | let's try |
| 11:16 | <Ammler> | hehe, same with me and Amecher at #tycoon |
| 11:17 | <LordAzamath> | only you are online of gon s |
| 11:17 | <Gonozal_VIII> | @seen gonewacko |
| 11:17 | <@DorpsGek> | Gonozal_VIII: gonewacko was last seen in #openttd 4 weeks, 3 days, 10 hours, 44 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <GoneWacko> also, I'm off to bed |
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| 11:17 | <Gonozal_VIII> | ok... |
| 11:17 | <Gonozal_VIII> | long sleep |
| 11:17 | -!- | worm is now known as totalwormage |
| 11:18 | <totalwormage> | hey there all :]] |
| 11:18 | <Gonozal_VIII> | hi |
| 11:18 | <Ammler> | hmm, how is the packname with locate? |
| 11:18 | <Ammler> | (and updatedb) |
| 11:18 | <LordAzamath> | ok.. now I'm off to heal my aching head |
| 11:18 | <LordAzamath> | cu |
| 11:19 | <Ammler> | bye |
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| 11:21 | <totalwormage> | i just had a question regarding the NOAI, it looks good, but i don't have any programming experience (willing to learn though). so i started by just copy/pasting the things on the NOAIbasics wiki page but i can't figure out in which directory i should create the files :\ |
| 11:22 | <totalwormage> | is that i a sign i shouldn't start with it at all? :P |
| 11:23 | <totalwormage> | running gentoo linux btw |
| 11:25 | <Eddi|zuHause3> | put it next to the WrightAI directory |
| 11:25 | <Sacro> | RICER |
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| 11:27 | <CIA-3> | OpenTTD: richk * r12351 /branches/NewGRF_ports/ (208 files in 17 dirs): [NewGRF_ports] -Sync: with trunk r12051:12350. |
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| 11:31 | <CIA-3> | OpenTTD: frosch * r12352 /trunk/src/ (3 files): |
| 11:31 | <CIA-3> | OpenTTD: -Fix: Some callback-results were treated as 8 bit, when they were 15 bit, and vice versa. |
| 11:31 | <CIA-3> | OpenTTD: Var 0x7E procedure-results are always 15 bit. |
| 11:31 | <CIA-3> | OpenTTD: Callbacks 0x2A, 0x2C, 0x36 (sometimes), 0x39 and 0x145 are 15 bit. |
| 11:31 | <CIA-3> | OpenTTD: Non-varaction2-calculated callback-results are also affected by the 8bit masking. |
| 11:32 | <Sacro> | I don't wanna talk, about things we've gone through, though it's hurting me, now it's history |
| 11:32 | <Sacro> | i've played all my cards, and that's what you've done to |
| 11:32 | <Sacro> | nothing more to say, no more ace to play |
| 11:33 | <@peter1138> | # # # |
| 11:40 | <Noldo> | as much as I like abba song's... |
| 11:41 | <Eddi|zuHause3> | w'hy wou'ld' yo'u? |
| 11:42 | <Sacro> | super trouper, lights are gonna find me, shining like the sun! |
| 11:42 | <Noldo> | Eddi|zuHause3: I blame sacro for messing with my mind |
| 11:42 | * | Sacro slaps Noldo for apostrophe abuse |
| 11:50 | <@peter1138> | Someone ought to get Ben_Robbins_, as a moderator, to learn the difference between your and you're... |
| 11:50 | <ln-> | your right |
| 11:51 | <SmatZ> | :-D |
| 11:51 | <@peter1138> | Die. |
| 11:51 | <ln-> | i didn't mean to hurt you're feelings |
| 11:52 | <Noldo> | He's |
| 11:52 | <@peter1138> | Die. |
| 11:52 | <@peter1138> | Die. |
| 11:52 | <Gonozal_VIII> | der die das |
| 11:52 | <CIA-3> | OpenTTD: richk * r12353 /branches/NewGRF_ports/src/water_cmd.cpp: [NewGRF_ports] -Fix: Overzealous merging! water_cmd.cpp only needed the extra clause for flood protection, not all the surrounding code. |
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| 11:58 | <Eddi|zuHause3> | dem den dessen |
| 11:58 | <Sacro> | desu? |
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| 12:00 | <Gonozal_VIII> | der dessen dem den |
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| 12:03 | <Eddi|zuHause3> | mit zu bei seit um auf |
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| 12:22 | <CIA-3> | OpenTTD: richk * r12354 /branches/NewGRF_ports/src/water_cmd.cpp: [NewGRF_ports] -Fix: Correct bracket position. |
| 12:22 | <Ammler> | DaleStan: found a small type in makefile of nforenum |
| 12:22 | <Ammler> | find /usr/include /usr/local/include -maxdepth 1 -name 'booost-*' 2> /dev/null | sort -t - -k 2 | tail -n 1 ) <-- 3 os |
| 12:23 | <CIA-3> | OpenTTD: richk * r12355 /branches/NewGRF_ports/src/airport_gui.cpp: [NewGRF_ports] -Fix: GUI was expanding old airport_gui widget when text was too long. |
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| 12:24 | <yorick> | hello |
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| 12:30 | <CIA-3> | OpenTTD: richk * r12356 /branches/NewGRF_ports/src/airport_gui.cpp: [NewGRF_ports] -Codechange: Use enummed widgets since its got them. |
| 12:30 | <DaleStan> | Hm... That could cause issues. I wonder why I never noticed it fail for me. It definitely does. |
| 12:31 | <yorick> | Peter1138: day? |
| 12:32 | <Ammler> | DaleStan: seems to work now, thanks :-) |
| 12:35 | <CIA-3> | OpenTTD: richk * r12357 /branches/NewGRF_ports/src/ (aircraft_cmd.cpp fsmport.h): [NewGRF_ports] -Codechange: Use instantiation of new FSMPortMovingData to create a copy of a const. |
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| 12:39 | <@peter1138> | Hmm? |
| 12:40 | <yorick> | you said "Die." a couple of times |
| 12:40 | <@peter1138> | Ah, well, not you. |
| 12:40 | <@peter1138> | Yet. |
| 12:41 | <yorick> | and my bot? |
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| 12:42 | <yorick> | what's wrong with him? |
| 12:42 | <yorick> | he was just idling |
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| 12:47 | <yorick> | waiting at a station without any cargo should not be seen as "running" |
| 12:47 | <yorick> | but as "waiting for cargo" |
| 12:47 | <@peter1138> | I believe the topic would say "no bots" if it would fit... |
| 12:47 | <yorick> | but it does not |
| 12:47 | -!- | peter1138 changed the topic of #openttd to: 0.5.3, 0.6.0-beta5 | Website: *.openttd.org (DevBlog: blog, Translator: translator2, Gameservers: servers, Nightly-builds: nightly, NightlyArchive: archive, WIKI: wiki, SVN mailinglist: maillist, Dev-docs: docs, Patches & Bug-reports: bugs) | #openttd.notice for FS + SVN notices | UTF-8 and full font set are mandatory | No Bots |
| 12:47 | <@peter1138> | It fits. It does. |
| 12:47 | <@peter1138> | And DorpsGek is authorised, obviously. |
| 12:48 | <yorick> | make it authorized bots then |
| 12:48 | -!- | peter1138 changed the topic of #openttd to: 0.5.3, 0.6.0-beta5 | Website: *.openttd.org (DevBlog: blog, Translator: translator2, Gameservers: servers, Nightly-builds: nightly, NightlyArchive: archive, WIKI: wiki, SVN mailinglist: maillist, Dev-docs: docs, Patches & Bug-reports: bugs) | #openttd.notice for FS + SVN notices | UTF-8 and full font set are mandatory | No Unauthorised Bots |
| 12:48 | <@peter1138> | There you go. |
| 12:48 | <yorick> | it wasn't in the topic before... |
| 12:48 | -!- | peter1138 changed the topic of #openttd to: 0.5.3, 0.6.0-beta5 | Website: *.openttd.org (DevBlog: blog, Translator: translator2, Gameservers: servers, Nightly-builds: nightly, NightlyArchive: archive, WIKI: wiki, SVN mailinglist: maillist, Dev-docs: docs, Patches & Bug-reports: bugs) | #openttd.notice for FS + SVN notices | UTF-8 and full font set are mandatory | No Unauthorised Bots | And English only |
| 12:48 | <Gonozal_VIII> | topic is too long, nobody will read that :P |
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| 12:49 | <yorick> | planetmaker! |
| 12:49 | <@peter1138> | Gonozal_VIII, have you fixed C&P in your pack patch yet? |
| 12:49 | <Gonozal_VIII> | c&p is broken? |
| 12:49 | <Gonozal_VIII> | you mean signal stuff? |
| 12:49 | <@peter1138> | Only because it's combined with YAPP. Yes, signals. |
| 12:49 | <Gonozal_VIII> | dunno how to fix that |
| 12:49 | <@peter1138> | Personally I don't care as I don't use it, heh... |
| 12:50 | <@peter1138> | Ah, welcome to the club of patch combiners then :p |
| 12:51 | <@Belugas> | Gonozal_VIII, you might have to ask the author to fix it then, and remove it up until fixed ;) |
| 12:51 | <yorick> | have you seen my new move patch? |
| 12:51 | <Gonozal_VIII> | i won't remove it just because a part doesn't work... the rest works |
| 12:52 | <yorick> | just copying pbs doesn't work |
| 12:54 | <Gonozal_VIII> | better partially working than not there at all :-) |
| 12:54 | <yorick> | maybe you should paste a big warning sign when trying to copy |
| 12:55 | <Gonozal_VIII> | it doesn't break anything, it just pastes wrong signals... |
| 12:57 | <@Belugas> | Gonozal_VIII, i meant that as an incentive for the author to fix it, and not relying, as it's always the case, to the maintainer to do it all by himself |
| 12:57 | <@Belugas> | conscious pather! |
| 12:57 | <Gonozal_VIII> | hmmm |
| 12:57 | <@Belugas> | +c |
| 12:57 | <@Belugas> | :S |
| 12:59 | <yorick> | Gonozal_VIII: could you take a look at http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1363#comment3626 ? |
| 13:00 | <Gonozal_VIII> | yes i could |
| 13:01 | <@peter1138> | But will you? |
| 13:01 | <@peter1138> | :D |
| 13:01 | <yorick> | this minute ^^ |
| 13:02 | <@Belugas> | 10:06 pm |
| 13:02 | <@Belugas> | Posts: 8243 |
| 13:02 | <@Belugas> | zhargon wrote: |
| 13:02 | <@Belugas> | you could hardly be using the ECS vectors if using a clean trunk |
| 13:02 | <@Belugas> | "It is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt." |
| 13:02 | <@Belugas> | MARVELOUSLY WELL SAID!! |
| 13:03 | <Gonozal_VIII> | depends on the definition of "clean" in the context... |
| 13:03 | <Gonozal_VIII> | could mean without newgrf |
| 13:03 | <yorick> | can I specify a scenario to load each time the map gets restarted (server)? |
| 13:04 | <@Belugas> | the context was definitively not interpreted correctly by the z guy |
| 13:04 | <yorick> | nice way to say "no" |
| 13:05 | <@Belugas> | thus, liking a lot what the D man said :) |
| 13:05 | <@Belugas> | D been Dalestan, of course |
| 13:05 | <Gonozal_VIII> | who else... |
| 13:05 | <Gonozal_VIII> | ^^ |
| 13:05 | <@peter1138> | Mr D? |
| 13:06 | <@Belugas> | hehehe |
| 13:07 | <Gonozal_VIII> | i wrote somewhere that you should keep dalestan from answering to posts from users with a postcount < 10, that would prevent a lot of trouble ;-) |
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| 13:10 | <Cosmo> | hey |
| 13:10 | <yorick> | hello |
| 13:11 | <Cosmo> | is anyone else having a problem with plane speeds in beta5? |
| 13:11 | <yorick> | no |
| 13:11 | <Cosmo> | oh |
| 13:11 | <yorick> | whats your problem? |
| 13:11 | <yorick> | Gonozal_VIII: I need quite a lot of input to produce a tiny amount of output, so, what do you think? |
| 13:12 | <Gonozal_VIII> | about what? |
| 13:13 | <yorick> | "Gonozal_VIII: could you take a look at http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1363#comment3626 ?" |
| 13:13 | <Gonozal_VIII> | ah... i could look there anytime now |
| 13:13 | <@Belugas> | Cosmo, you are aware that the plane speed is adjstable? |
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| 13:15 | <Cosmo> | no I was not |
| 13:15 | <@Belugas> | ther you are now :) |
| 13:15 | <yorick> | Gonozal_VIII: just do it now :) |
| 13:15 | <Cosmo> | thank you Belugas :) |
| 13:16 | <@Belugas> | Gonozal_VIII, if you want em to quick him, just tell me so... |
| 13:16 | <@Belugas> | no problem Cosmo :) |
| 13:16 | <Cosmo> | I'm just used to my planes not being overtaken by buses :p |
| 13:16 | <Cosmo> | *not used |
| 13:16 | <Cosmo> | erm |
| 13:16 | <Cosmo> | yeah |
| 13:16 | <Cosmo> | cyas .o/ |
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| 13:17 | <yorick> | x-| |
| 13:21 | <Gonozal_VIII> | i'm tired und not in the mood for patchlookifying |
| 13:21 | <SmatZ> | und? what? :-) |
| 13:21 | <yorick> | und? |
| 13:21 | <SmatZ> | [18:21:24][18:21:24] <Gonozal_VIII> i'm tired und not in the mood for patchlookifying |
| 13:21 | <SmatZ> | ^^ und |
| 13:22 | <yorick> | and?* |
| 13:22 | <Gonozal_VIII> | oh that's where the und came from |
| 13:22 | <SmatZ> | :-D |
| 13:22 | <Gonozal_VIII> | i thought "strange, why is smatz writing german words" |
| 13:22 | <SmatZ> | Gonozal_VIII, the "und" creator :) |
| 13:22 | <yorick> | lord of the unds! |
| 13:23 | <SmatZ> | :-) |
| 13:24 | <Gonozal_VIII> | my finger must have slipped... u and a are too close together |
| 13:24 | <yorick> | very |
| 13:24 | <yorick> | asdfghju |
| 13:24 | <yorick> | 6 keys away |
| 13:24 | <Gonozal_VIII> | huj here |
| 13:24 | <Gonozal_VIII> | :P |
| 13:25 | <yorick> | asdf.com ftw! |
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| 13:35 | <Zuu> | asdf is so plain and boring.. :p |
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| 14:08 | <Noldo> | how do I add files to be built with make in openttd Makefile system? |
| 14:09 | <Dominik> | add the to source.list |
| 14:09 | <Dominik> | *them |
| 14:09 | <Noldo> | thanks |
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| 14:24 | <Tekky> | I am unable to compile my own version of OpenTTD r12187. This revision is required by YAPP. I keep on getting the error message: "The current font is missing some of the characters used in the texts for this language. Read the readme to see how to solve this." on startup. Also, the sprites of signals seem to be missing, I get red question marks instead. |
| 14:25 | <ln-> | doesn't sound like a compilation problem to me. |
| 14:25 | <+glx> | Tekky: version detection failed |
| 14:25 | <Noldo> | don't tell me there are mysterious dependecies among the headerfiles? |
| 14:25 | <Tekky> | I have no idea what I am doing wrong. This happens to me both when compiling with MS VC++ 2008 and MinGW, however I can compile properly with BuildOTTD. |
| 14:25 | <+glx> | using subversion? |
| 14:25 | <Tekky> | no, I took the nightly build. |
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| 14:26 | <Wolf01> | hello |
| 14:26 | <+glx> | that's why :) |
| 14:26 | <Tekky> | aha, ok, thanks, I will try to checkout the SVN. |
| 14:26 | <Wolf01> | yes, that's why :D |
| 14:26 | <@peter1138> | It doesn't work out the box. Not very useful really... |
| 14:26 | <+glx> | edit src\rev.cpp.in and replace REVISION with the right rev, or use configure --revision=rxxxx |
| 14:27 | <@peter1138> | Or set the define ... WITHREV=rxxxx |
| 14:27 | <@peter1138> | Or something that like |
| 14:27 | <+glx> | it has been removed IIRC |
| 14:28 | <Noldo> | oh it was only stdfx.h and openttd.h which is quite reasonable |
| 14:28 | <@peter1138> | Oh |
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| 14:31 | <Tekky> | extern const char _openttd_revision[] = "r12187"; |
| 14:32 | <Tekky> | this did not help :( However, I am still using the nightly build. |
| 14:32 | <Tekky> | I will try the SVN checkout now. |
| 14:32 | <+glx> | replace @@REVISION@@ with 12187 in _openttd_newgrf_version (line 37) |
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| 14:36 | <Tekky> | I have this in line 37: uint32 _openttd_newgrf_version = 0 << 28 | 6 << 24 | 0 << 20 | 0 << 19 | (0 & ((1 << 19) - 1)); |
| 14:36 | <dih> | lol |
| 14:36 | <+glx> | modify the .in :) |
| 14:37 | <Tekky> | ah, thx :) |
| 14:46 | <Tekky> | ah, thx, it works now!.... on windows, it did not generate a new rev.cpp file from the rev.cpp.in file. But I just edited the same place in rev.cpp and it works now :) |
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| 14:46 | <yorick> | dih: I'm not sure whether I gave you my new patch or not.....anyway: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1363#comment3626 |
| 14:46 | <dih> | yorick: to be really honest |
| 14:46 | <dih> | for one thing i get emails to that bug id |
| 14:46 | <dih> | for another thing - i am not convinced it's a good idea |
| 14:46 | <yorick> | ah, :) |
| 14:46 | <dih> | last but not least i think i am coming up with a slightly better solution ^^ |
| 14:46 | <dih> | only in theory |
| 14:46 | <dih> | i'll let you code it ^^ |
| 14:47 | <yorick> | :D |
| 14:47 | <dih> | you may then give yourself the nick tag =[db]= |
| 14:47 | <dih> | and meet in the special channel with LA |
| 14:47 | <dih> | the channel is #dihsBitches |
| 14:47 | <dih> | ^^ |
| 14:48 | <dih> | rofl |
| 14:48 | <yorick> | [db][db]? |
| 14:48 | <dih> | dih's bitch |
| 14:48 | <yorick> | how do I do that? |
| 14:48 | <dih> | with /nick =[db]= yorick |
| 14:49 | <yorick> | =[db]= erroneous nickname |
| 14:49 | <dih> | what a shame |
| 14:49 | <dih> | lets try -|db|- |
| 14:49 | <+glx> | try without = |
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| 14:49 | -!- | [db][db] is now known as yorick |
| 14:50 | <dih> | lol |
| 14:50 | <yorick> | [19:49][19:49] -[db]- erroneous nickname |
| 14:50 | <yorick> | [19:50][19:50] -|db|- erroneous nickname |
| 14:51 | -!- | dih is now known as |myownbitch|dih |
| 14:51 | < | |myownbitch|dih> ^^ |
| 14:51 | -!- | |myownbitch|dih is now known as dih |
| 14:52 | <yorick> | Belugas: I didn't notice being kicked |
| 14:52 | <@Belugas> | well..now you know |
| 14:52 | <dih> | ^^ |
| 14:54 | <yorick> | but I'm a music maniac! |
| 14:55 | <@Belugas> | and you have nothing to do there |
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| 14:56 | <Tekky> | how many OpenTTD "ticks" are there in one second? |
| 14:56 | <yorick> | 36? |
| 14:56 | <dih> | 72 or 74 i think |
| 14:56 | <yorick> | those are days |
| 14:56 | <Tekky> | there are 74 ticks per day |
| 14:57 | <dih> | ah - true |
| 14:57 | <dih> | that way round |
| 14:57 | <Tekky> | but I need to know how many per second :) |
| 14:57 | <Tekky> | thx anyway |
| 14:57 | <yorick> | around 30 on a normal pc |
| 14:58 | <@peter1138> | 33 |
| 14:58 | <@peter1138> | 30ms per tick. |
| 14:58 | <@peter1138> | So, er, 33.333 recurring, heh... |
| 14:58 | <Tekky> | ah, thx :) |
| 14:59 | <@peter1138> | TTDPatch is 27ms per tick, apparently. |
| 14:59 | <@peter1138> | Or close to. |
| 14:59 | <@peter1138> | I have no idea why we're different. |
| 14:59 | <Patrick`> | it's capped at that, but it'll run slower if necessary |
| 14:59 | <yorick> | because of network timing? |
| 14:59 | <Patrick`> | fast-forward just flatouts it |
| 14:59 | <Patrick`> | no, if the PC can't keep up |
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| 15:02 | <pax```> | Hi, I'm running openttd 0.5.2(from ubuntu 7.10 repositories), and for some reason I can't get any funds added to my "account", I've set up 2 bus stations, I can see the amount of money flying from the bus as it reaches the station but it seems to disappear into nowhere. Am I doing something wrong or what should I look for to make it work? |
| 15:03 | <yorick> | is that money yellow? |
| 15:03 | <pax```> | Yep |
| 15:03 | <dih> | :-) |
| 15:03 | <+glx> | don't use transferts |
| 15:04 | <dih> | funny funny ^^ |
| 15:04 | <yorick> | keep your hands off that transfer button |
| 15:04 | <dih> | ? |
| 15:04 | <pax```> | >.< I thought I screwed something somewhere |
| 15:04 | <dih> | yorick seems to have bad experience with transfers |
| 15:04 | <dih> | what happened yorick? |
| 15:04 | <yorick> | unless you know what you are doing |
| 15:04 | <dih> | did a worm bite you when using transfer? |
| 15:04 | <yorick> | transfering to buoys |
| 15:04 | <pax```> | What's the button's purpose though? Is there some wiki article to read about it? |
| 15:04 | <+glx> | transfer don't work very well in 0.5.x anyway |
| 15:04 | <dih> | yep |
| 15:05 | <dih> | wiki.openttd.org |
| 15:05 | <dih> | read |
| 15:05 | <yorick> | which just send alll the cargo that arives to them in a vacuum inside space |
| 15:05 | <yorick> | "how to get rid of cargo" |
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| 15:09 | <pax```> | Hmm... Found http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Orders#Transfer, but it's not really explaining what transfer does... So should I just ignore the transfer button for now? How could I order a bus for example to drive to station 1, pickup people, drive to station 2, drop off people, pick up new people etc |
| 15:09 | <pax```> | Would just unload and load work? |
| 15:09 | <dih> | load: dont leave a station until the train is loaded |
| 15:09 | <yorick> | not if the station accepts that cargo |
| 15:09 | <dih> | unload: unload and dont load |
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| 15:10 | <Patrick`> | transfer: unload cargo at a station that also accepts it, without selling it? |
| 15:10 | <dih> | nothing of both: unload, then load what is there and fits |
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| 15:10 | <Patrick`> | aha |
| 15:10 | <Patrick`> | sorry, I'm wrong |
| 15:10 | <dih> | transfer: unload, but keep cargo at the station for another vehicle to pick up |
| 15:11 | <Patrick`> | and get part-payment for it |
| 15:11 | <dih> | hence: no money for transfer |
| 15:11 | <dih> | no |
| 15:11 | <dih> | payment is given when cargo reaches destination |
| 15:11 | <Patrick`> | ching ching |
| 15:11 | <Patrick`> | to both trains |
| 15:11 | <Patrick`> | (or whatever) |
| 15:11 | <dih> | aye |
| 15:12 | <dih> | hence: money is yellow :-) |
| 15:12 | <Patrick`> | so I can run, say, feeder trucks for two resources that are just outside of station reach of each other |
| 15:12 | <dih> | not green |
| 15:12 | <dih> | yep |
| 15:12 | <dih> | feeder is a good word :-) |
| 15:13 | <Patrick`> | nice |
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| 15:14 | <@peter1138> | cargo destinations :D |
| 15:14 | * | yorick wants |
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| 15:14 | * | SmatZ doesn't |
| 15:15 | <@peter1138> | pax```: to do that just give the vehicles orders to the stations. you don't need load, unload, or anything else. |
| 15:15 | * | yorick SmatZ pokes with patch option |
| 15:15 | <Patrick`> | mmm, destination |
| 15:15 | <Patrick`> | it would be good if you could just hook up a bunch of passenger trains and then passengers would travel through the system independantly |
| 15:15 | <@Belugas> | mmhh.... 0.6 branching... |
| 15:15 | <Patrick`> | and too difficult to code |
| 15:16 | <Patrick`> |
