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| 07:36 | <keyweed> | "fix" my irc client? wtf? |
| 07:38 | <keyweed> | can anyone tell me what exactly is supposed to be wrong with my irc client? |
| 07:41 | <ln-> | nothing. |
| 07:41 | <ln-> | if you are talking about events that took place a few days ago. |
| 07:43 | <keyweed> | yes. i was. |
| 07:50 | <ln-> | and you were not kicked from this channel, but killed like everyone else. |
| 07:52 | <bumblebee> | what happened a few days ago?? |
| 07:53 | <keyweed> | a mass killing, without (understandable) explanation. |
| 07:55 | <Ammler> | DJ-Nekk|d: around? |
| 07:56 | <Ammler> | DJ-Nekk|d: is your GRF downwards compatible, I mean you spoke about new waggons etc.... |
| 07:56 | <Ammler> | new tracks |
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| 09:37 | <nzvip> | Does there exist a library for XML in C? |
| 09:38 | <@peter1138> | libxml? |
| 09:38 | <@peter1138> | libexpat |
| 09:40 | <nzvip> | :o |
| 09:40 | <@peter1138> | What? |
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| 09:58 | <Slowpoke> | if I download that openttdcoop-grf-package, may I extract it right into the data-folder with the directories or wouldn't that work? |
| 09:59 | <+glx> | just extract in data |
| 09:59 | <+glx> | nothing else needed |
| 10:00 | <Slowpoke> | yeah I wondered about the subdirectories, but it's fine :) |
| 10:00 | <@peter1138> | With directories is fine, and is intended. |
| 10:01 | <+glx> | the grfs can even be in a .tar |
| 10:03 | <Ammler> | Slowpoke: directories are mainly for keeping readmes/licenses etc. |
| 10:04 | <+glx> | having grfs ordered by "type" is nice too |
| 10:04 | <Ammler> | and to have right orders, of course |
| 10:04 | <Ammler> | :-) |
| 10:05 | <Ammler> | well credits there goes to GRFCrawler, I took that from there |
| 10:10 | <@peter1138> | Indeed, I just unzip into directories and keep all the extra bumpf with it... |
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| 10:15 | <Draakon> | hi |
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| 10:45 | <@Belugas> | damned... 30 minutes wasted because a datasource lost its dataset :( |
| 10:45 | <SpComb> | Bjarni! |
| 10:46 | <Sacro> | Bjarni! |
| 10:46 | <@peter1138> | :o |
| 10:46 | <+glx> | silly people |
| 10:46 | <@Belugas> | nuts indeed |
| 10:46 | <SpComb> | Ammler: there was an understandable explenation, it was a(nother) bug in services |
| 10:47 | <SpComb> | http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=6559 |
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| 10:49 | <SpComb> | and http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=6558&p=140156#p140156 |
| 10:53 | <Ammler> | SpComb: did you highlight the right person? |
| 10:54 | <SpComb> | Ammler: an off-by-one error |
| 10:54 | <SpComb> | * keyweed |
| 10:55 | <keyweed> | SpComb: thnx |
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| 11:15 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: truebrain * r12327 /branches/noai/ (5 files in 2 dirs): [NoAI] -Add: GetLastMonth(Production|Transported) (Morloth) |
| 11:15 | <hylje> | COLOR |
| 11:16 | <lolman> | COLOUR* |
| 11:16 | <hylje> | COULOUR |
| 11:17 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | COULEUR |
| 11:21 | <Progman> | FARBE |
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| 11:22 | <Progman> | looks not so similar... |
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| 11:35 | <SpComb> | VÄRIT |
| 11:35 | <Vikthor> | BARVA |
| 11:37 | <murray> | MAGMA |
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| 12:26 | <Forked> | heya Gonozal_VIII :-) |
| 12:26 | <Gonozal_VIII> | hi |
| 12:27 | <yorick> | hi |
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| 12:35 | <Ammler> | hey Gonozal_VIII, is your patchpack playable in MP mode? |
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| 12:36 | <@peter1138> | Try it? |
| 12:36 | <Forked> | he might have missed the question.. |
| 12:36 | <Gonozal_VIII> | i didn't try but it should |
| 12:37 | <Gonozal_VIII> | i read about some desyncs because of paxdest... |
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| 12:38 | <Gonozal_VIII> | btw next update is either for a new yapp version or r12345 |
| 12:39 | <@peter1138> | hehe |
| 12:40 | <yorick> | hehe, I keep inviting him to #? :) |
| 12:40 | <Gonozal_VIII> | [18:39:35][18:39:35] * The_Master (ttech@74.86.163.197) invites you to join #? |
| 12:41 | <yorick> | <@The_Master> yorick: Alright sparky, everything looks good. |
| 12:41 | <yorick> | [18:39][18:39] <@yorick> ?invite Gonozal_VIII |
| 12:41 | <yorick> | [18:39][18:39] *** Gonozal_VIII (~Gonozal_V@N953P028.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined |
| 12:41 | <yorick> | [18:39][18:39] <@The_Master> yorick: Alright sparky, everything looks good. |
| 12:41 | <yorick> | , it is :) |
| 12:41 | <LordAzamath> | Belugas, here? |
| 12:42 | <LordAzamath> | I guess not.. |
| 12:44 | <Gonozal_VIII> | try airbus.com |
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| 12:48 | <@Belugas> | there LordAzamath |
| 12:48 | <LordAzamath> | aeh :) |
| 12:49 | <LordAzamath> | Girder steel bridge gets wrong sprites for pillars |
| 12:49 | <@Belugas> | they do? |
| 12:50 | <LordAzamath> | yes |
| 12:50 | <LordAzamath> | some kind of ground sprite |
| 12:50 | <LordAzamath> | I'm not sure which |
| 12:50 | <LordAzamath> | w/o any newgrfs |
| 12:50 | * | Belugas downloads nightlies |
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| 12:53 | <@Belugas> | mmh... |
| 12:53 | <@Belugas> | only in the y |
| 12:53 | <@Belugas> | direction |
| 12:53 | <LordAzamath> | yes |
| 12:53 | <LordAzamath> | and only that bridge |
| 12:53 | <LordAzamath> | I already checked that :) |
| 12:53 | <Gonozal_VIII> | obviously belugas messed up |
| 12:53 | <Gonozal_VIII> | :P |
| 12:53 | <@Belugas> | yup |
| 12:54 | * | Belugas searches a uncontaminated repo |
| 12:54 | <LordAzamath> | well then it's good that SmatZ suggested to report it to you :) |
| 12:56 | <SmatZ> | Belugas: obviously 0x9CA != SPR_BTSGA_Y_PILLAR |
| 12:57 | <SmatZ> | but I do not see why |
| 12:57 | <SmatZ> | eg, when SPR_BTSGA_Y_PILLAR is replaced by 0x9CA, it works |
| 12:57 | <Gonozal_VIII> | the name already in use? |
| 12:58 | <SmatZ> | found it |
| 12:59 | <@peter1138> | 2606 |
| 12:59 | <SmatZ> | yeah |
| 12:59 | <@peter1138> | SPR_TINYHQ_SOUTH = 2606, |
| 12:59 | <@peter1138> | Just a typo |
| 12:59 | <SmatZ> | should be 2506 |
| 12:59 | <SmatZ> | yes... |
| 13:01 | <Sacro> | pffft |
| 13:01 | <Sacro> | how silly |
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| 13:01 | <SmatZ> | Sacro: you can go check whole sprites.h if you want to find "silly" bugs |
| 13:02 | * | Belugas nods |
| 13:02 | <Sacro> | give me commit rights and i will |
| 13:02 | <LordAzamath> | tiny HQ south... Yes, it's that sprite :D |
| 13:04 | <@peter1138> | Sacro, you don't need commit rights to find bugs ;) |
| 13:05 | <Sacro> | peter1138: it helps |
| 13:06 | <@peter1138> | No, actually, it doesn't. |
| 13:06 | <+glx> | it just helps to add bugs ;) |
| 13:07 | <Forked> | undocumented features :) |
| 13:07 | <LordAzamath> | yeah.. actually the pillars were meant to be so, weren't they, Belugas? |
| 13:07 | <Sacro> | glx: exactly |
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| 13:16 | <Wolf01> | hello |
| 13:19 | <SmatZ> | hello Wolf01 |
| 13:20 | -!- | Yorick|AFK is now known as Yorick |
| 13:20 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: belugas * r12328 /trunk/src/table/sprites.h: -Fix(r3447): Wrong Y pillar specified for girder with arch bridge. Spotted and fixed by a lot of people ;) |
| 13:21 | <Wolf01> | ooooh colors :O |
| 13:21 | <Yorick> | ooh colors :O |
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| 13:22 | <+glx> | @op |
| 13:22 | -!- | mode/#openttd [+o glx] by DorpsGek |
| 13:22 | <Yorick> | how to use those? |
| 13:22 | <SmatZ> | @op |
| 13:22 | <Yorick> | @op |
| 13:22 | <SmatZ> | ^^^ this way |
| 13:22 | <Forked> | @deop |
| 13:22 | <Forked> | .. woo! |
| 13:22 | <Yorick> | I mean, the colors |
| 13:22 | <Yorick> | @deop SmatZ |
| 13:23 | <Yorick> | :o it worked |
| 13:23 | <SmatZ> | Yorick: for many clients, Ctrl+K |
| 13:23 | <SmatZ> | :P |
| 13:23 | <Forked> | (in irssi it's ctrl-c) |
| 13:23 | <Yorick> | ok |
| 13:23 | <Yorick> | no colors ^^ |
| 13:23 | <Yorick> | hydrairc? |
| 13:23 | <SmatZ> | or Ctrl+Q :-P |
| 13:23 | <Yorick> | gets me a "Do you want to quit" |
| 13:23 | <Forked> | doesn't do anything =p |
| 13:23 | <SmatZ> | :( |
| 13:23 | <Yorick> | |
| 13:24 | <Yorick> | hmm |
| 13:24 | <Wolf01> | you can use them so: colors |
| 13:24 | <Yorick> | ctrl-k kives me a unknown command... |
| 13:24 | <Yorick> | that is, how? |
| 13:24 | <Wolf01> | ctrl+k the number of the color and the text |
| 13:25 | <Yorick> | text |
| 13:25 | <Wolf01> | you will see something like []3text -> green text |
| 13:25 | <Yorick> | text |
| 13:25 | <Yorick> | :) |
| 13:27 | -!- | mode/#openttd [+c] by glx |
| 13:27 | <Ammler> | hmm, has [gameopt]->diff_custom changed? |
| 13:27 | <Forked> | tet |
| 13:27 | <Yorick> | no? |
| 13:27 | <Forked> | ..test |
| 13:27 | <Yorick> | nooo |
| 13:28 | <SmatZ> | nooo |
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| 13:28 | <Ammler> | seems it has 20 values now, but needed about 18 in past |
| 13:28 | <Ammler> | ah, your "noo" is for colors :-) |
| 13:29 | <@glx> | disabled them :) |
| 13:29 | <Yorick> | noooo |
| 13:29 | <@glx> | @deop |
| 13:29 | -!- | mode/#openttd [-o glx] by DorpsGek |
| 13:29 | <Tefad> | i have no colors |
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| 13:31 | <ln-> | wtf, someone abused colors and did not get kicked? |
| 13:31 | <+glx> | nobody noticed the mode +c was removed |
| 13:32 | <ln-> | imho it should stay removed but abusers should be kicked without warning. |
| 13:32 | <SmatZ> | life without colors is... sad :( |
| 13:32 | <ln-> | abuse = almost anything but CIA's messagse |
| 13:32 | <ln-> | -se +es |
| 13:32 | <+glx> | we had +c before the latest massive ban |
| 13:33 | <SmatZ> | mmm |
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| 13:35 | <+glx> | @op |
| 13:35 | -!- | mode/#openttd [+o glx] by DorpsGek |
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| 13:36 | <Yorick> | abusing colors? |
| 13:36 | <Yorick> | colors = good |
| 13:36 | <Yorick> | colors are colorfull |
| 13:37 | <Tefad> | i only see colors when they get abused. |
| 13:37 | <Tefad> | also words ending in -ful only have one l |
| 13:37 | <SmatZ> | full ? |
| 13:38 | <LordAzamath> | colorempty |
| 13:38 | <@glx> | LordAzamath: it's colorless in this case |
| 13:38 | <Yorick> | colors are colorful |
| 13:38 | <SmatZ> | hmm one "l", but two "ss" ? |
| 13:39 | <Slowpoke> | why less with two s but full with only one? |
| 13:39 | <Yorick> | native english people are hard 2 find |
| 13:40 | <Slowpoke> | they wouldn't come up with an answer th that anyway |
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| 13:42 | * | Ammler added image and url to cia.vc |
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| 13:46 | <@Belugas> | [13:07][13:07] <LordAzamath> yeah.. actually the pillars were meant to be so, weren't they, Belugas? <--- i do not understand the underlying meaning of this |
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| 13:54 | <Ammler> | hmm, Gonozal_VIII, does your patchpack change diff_custom? |
| 13:55 | <Yorick> | there are some free trams in ERVTS :D |
| 13:55 | <LordAzamath> | Belugas, that's because you are Belugas not me :P |
| 13:57 | <Ammler> | I need SVN help, how do I revert a special commit? current revision is 70 I like to revert the commit 66 |
| 13:57 | <@glx> | svn merge svn://... -c -66 |
| 13:59 | <Ammler> | but commits 67-70 where still there then? |
| 13:59 | <@glx> | yes |
| 13:59 | <Ammler> | well, I try... |
| 14:00 | <Ammler> | thanks anyway for that ot help :-) |
| 14:00 | <Ammler> | hmm, I need to merge 65, I assume... |
| 14:01 | <@glx> | -c -66 will merge the opposite of 66 |
| 14:03 | <Gonozal_VIII> | yes it does ammler |
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| 14:03 | <Gonozal_VIII> | the loans patch changes the size from 18 to 20 |
| 14:04 | <Ammler> | Gonozal_VIII: well, then its clear, thanks |
| 14:05 | <LordAzamath> | btw Belugas, thanks for the fix :) |
| 14:05 | * | LordAzamath is away now |
| 14:06 | <@Belugas> | it was a problem i was aware of, but i was thinking it was related only to my stuff |
| 14:06 | <@Belugas> | was not aware it was in trunk too |
| 14:06 | <@Belugas> | thanks for notifying me |
| 14:07 | <Ammler> | glx: but it didn't download the deleted file |
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| 14:08 | <@peter1138> | !logs |
| 14:08 | <SpComb> | Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd |
| 14:08 | <Ammler> | maybe I just make svn export -r 65 |
| 14:13 | <Yorick> | hmm..there seems to be a problem with the train has negative income messages in 0.6.0-beta5 |
| 14:13 | <Yorick> | 4* |
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| 14:15 | <@Belugas> | and i do believe the nightlies have already corrected that, Yorick |
| 14:15 | <Yorick> | not checked, so possible |
| 14:16 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: peter1138 * r12329 /trunk/src/ (lang/english.txt rail_cmd.cpp): -Fix [FS#1819]: Disallow building level crossings over one-way roads as this allowed competitors to remove the one-way state. |
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| 14:19 | <Ammler> | peter1138: that will also allow you, to protect your road from thos silly train crasher.. |
| 14:20 | <Yorick> | someone here claimed he could buy a 2.2tHz server :D |
| 14:22 | <Yorick> | but, it will also allow you, to protect your road from other trucks |
| 14:24 | <@peter1138> | What’s with all the spurious commas? |
| 14:25 | <Yorick> | cp,,as? |
| 14:25 | <LordAzamath> | bye |
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| 14:25 | <Yorick> | bye |
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| 14:32 | <@peter1138> | Hmm, nice, Transmission supports UPnP on Linux :o |
| 14:32 | <@peter1138> | That explains why uploading is working, heh... |
| 14:37 | <hylje> | magic |
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| 15:10 | <mrfrenzy> | hi, I'm having desyncs with beta4, any recommendation how to find the problem? |
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| 15:11 | <Yorick> | try disabling some grfs |
| 15:11 | <Yorick> | then stopping vehicles |
| 15:12 | <@glx> | real desync? |
| 15:12 | <mrfrenzy> | it only seems to happen when I build things, I let it run by itself for a year and nothing happened |
| 15:12 | <mrfrenzy> | glx: dbg: [net] 'mrfrenzy' reported an error and is closing its connection (desync error) |
| 15:12 | <mrfrenzy> | I get that like every ten minutes |
| 15:12 | <Yorick> | building what? |
| 15:12 | <mrfrenzy> | stations and track |
| 15:12 | <@glx> | probably a grf problem |
| 15:12 | <mrfrenzy> | but it doesn't happen immediately |
| 15:13 | <mrfrenzy> | at random times after doing it |
| 15:13 | <mrfrenzy> | there were no problems prior to 1990 |
| 15:13 | <mrfrenzy> | now it's 1997 |
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| 15:14 | <Maedhros> | mrfrenzy: can you reproduce it deliberately? |
| 15:15 | * | peter1138 fires up his beta4 build... |
| 15:15 | <@peter1138> | (GRF scanning is slow when it's not cached) |
| 15:15 | <@peter1138> | mrfrenzy, Is it a public server? |
| 15:15 | <mrfrenzy> | Maedhros: I just have to build a few stations, then in a matter of minutes it happens |
| 15:15 | <mrfrenzy> | http://paste.debian.net/50424 |
| 15:16 | <mrfrenzy> | server is hemma.fagrell.net |
| 15:16 | <mrfrenzy> | password is jox |
| 15:16 | <mrfrenzy> | you are welcome to join and try to break it |
| 15:16 | <Maedhros> | mrfrenzy: any stations in particular? |
| 15:16 | <mrfrenzy> | regular electric stations |
| 15:16 | <Maedhros> | as in, from a grf, or standard stations? |
| 15:16 | <mrfrenzy> | 4x5 |
| 15:17 | <Yorick> | as in, from a grf, or standard stations? |
| 15:17 | <mrfrenzy> | they look like regular stations to me |
| 15:17 | <@glx> | you used the station selection dropdown/listbox? |
| 15:17 | * | peter1138 goes grf-hunting... |
| 15:18 | <mrfrenzy> | no |
| 15:18 | <mrfrenzy> | just clicked on the station icon |
| 15:18 | <ln-> | Bjarni! |
| 15:18 | <mrfrenzy> | "Default station" |
| 15:18 | <@peter1138> | IS NOT HERE |
| 15:18 | <Yorick> | Bjarni? |
| 15:18 | <ln-> | ... no, he doesn't seem to hear. |
| 15:18 | <Yorick> | did someone say "Bjarni!"? |
| 15:19 | <ln-> | Yorick: no. check your medication. |
| 15:19 | <SmatZ> | there is Disabled DBSet V0.82 ESC Extensions GRF |
| 15:19 | <Yorick> | [21:18][21:18] <ln-> Bjarni! |
| 15:19 | <mrfrenzy> | SmatZ: on my server? |
| 15:19 | <SmatZ> | yes |
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| 15:19 | <SmatZ> | all stations with default GRF |
| 15:20 | <ln-> | Yorick: a wild imagination you've got. |
| 15:20 | <@peter1138> | Yeah, DBSetXL isn't loaded. Shouldn't affect anything. |
| 15:20 | <@peter1138> | Only station GRF is Modern Suburban Stations |
| 15:20 | <@Belugas> | mrfrenzy, maybe you could supply screenshots... |
| 15:21 | <Yorick> | ln- | nl-? |
| 15:21 | <mrfrenzy> | Belugas: the screenshot would only show "disconnected due to desync" |
| 15:21 | <mrfrenzy> | or what do you want me to shoot? |
| 15:21 | <@Belugas> | before... |
| 15:22 | <mrfrenzy> | is there a builtin screenshot feature? |
| 15:22 | <SmatZ> | mrfrenzy: Ctrl+S |
| 15:24 | <@Belugas> | like all the steps you take before desynching |
| 15:24 | <SmatZ> | mrfrenzy: do only you have the desync, or your friend does have them too? |
| 15:25 | <mrfrenzy> | only me this far, but I'm the only one that's been playing today |
| 15:26 | <SmatZ> | hmm |
| 15:26 | <Yorick> | http://paste.debian.net/50424 <-- PBI isn't in there? http://paste.debian.net/50424 |
| 15:26 | <Yorick> | it is loaded |
| 15:26 | * | peter1138 doesn't have that version of the total bridge renewal set... |
| 15:27 | <mrfrenzy> | http://temp.syntaxis.se/ttddebug/station.png |
| 15:27 | <Yorick> | try ottdcoop 7beta, peter |
| 15:33 | * | peter1138 sometimes wonders what you can catch by having two clients... |
| 15:34 | <mrfrenzy> | sorry the grf list was incomplete, this is the complete list: http://temp.syntaxis.se/ttddebug/grfs.PNG |
| 15:34 | <@glx> | mrfrenzy: the list is available in network window ;) |
| 15:34 | <@peter1138> | We can see that in the MP lobby ;) |
| 15:34 | <mrfrenzy> | aah ;) |
| 15:35 | <mrfrenzy> | Yorick: did you mention a suspect grf before I disconnected? |
| 15:35 | <Yorick> | PBI |
| 15:36 | <@peter1138> | Bah, my laptop is on a go slow :( |
| 15:36 | <mrfrenzy> | can I unload it without breaking the savegame? |
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| 15:37 | <Yorick> | no |
| 15:37 | <mrfrenzy> | well, just have to restart then :/ |
| 15:37 | <@peter1138> | Why is it suspect? |
| 15:38 | <mrfrenzy> | for some reason, with the loaded grfs, there are no train wagons for lumber and plastic, what have I missed there? |
| 15:38 | <Yorick> | newindustries are known for their desyncs (no offence, Belugas) |
| 15:38 | <Yorick> | you do not have a trainset loaded |
| 15:38 | <@peter1138> | Well it’s a good job all the desync bugs get reported. |
| 15:39 | * | Belugas takes no offense. If users do not randomly remove grfs, it will not desynch, or at least not in a known way |
| 15:39 | <nzvip> | "Shared object "libxml2.so.2" not found" Hm! How do I make sure that the program search the right place when I compile it? |
| 15:40 | <Yorick> | ./configure ? |
| 15:40 | <nzvip> | Nah, it is my own code. |
| 15:40 | <nzvip> | So no ./configure |
| 15:40 | <Yorick> | remove the option to randomly remove grfs then, belugas |
| 15:40 | <Yorick> | edit makefile |
| 15:40 | <nzvip> | No Makefile either. |
| 15:40 | <mrfrenzy> | Belugas: I have not removed any grfs ;) do I have something terribly wrong in my grf mix? |
| 15:41 | <nzvip> | And besides, what would I edit in the Makefile? |
| 15:41 | * | Belugas removes temptation to say stupid things |
| 15:41 | <@Belugas> | mrfrenzy, i cannot tell |
| 15:41 | <@peter1138> | nzvip, ensure libxml is in the correct path for your system to see, or set LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
| 15:41 | <Gonozal_VIII> | yes, you have industry grf after the vehicle grfs |
| 15:41 | <nzvip> | Should be... |
| 15:41 | <Yorick> | I have to go now, happy happy belugas :) |
| 15:41 | <nzvip> | Meh, I guess I better do some symlinking. |
| 15:42 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: glx * r12330 /trunk/src/newgrf_engine.cpp: -Feature: [NewGRF] vehicle variable FE bit 5 and 6 |
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| 15:42 | <mrfrenzy> | Gonozal_VIII: aha, where do I find the list of in which order to load them? |
| 15:43 | <Gonozal_VIII> | there is no order list |
| 15:43 | <Gonozal_VIII> | grfs that use stuff from other grfs have to come after them |
| 15:44 | <Gonozal_VIII> | industries have new cargos, vehicles transport them therefore vehicles must come after industries |
| 15:44 | <Maedhros> | nzvip: you could try using the -L<path> flag for gcc / ld |
| 15:44 | <mrfrenzy> | I C |
| 15:44 | <mrfrenzy> | so it might be fixed if I just change the orders? |
| 15:44 | <nzvip> | I haxed it. |
| 15:45 | <nzvip> | I did use that switch, Maedhros. |
| 15:45 | <Gonozal_VIII> | you're missing the base dbsetxl |
| 15:45 | <Ammler> | something like a orderlist: http://openttdcoop.org/newgrfs/trunk/ottdc_grfpack.cfg ;-) |
| 15:45 | <@peter1138> | Oh no, AsiaStars transporting freight :( |
| 15:46 | <Gonozal_VIII> | ecs extension doesn't include any trains, it has to be loaded after the xl set |
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| 15:46 | <SmatZ> | mrfrenzy: I would start with removing DBSet ECS Extensions |
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| 15:46 | <mrfrenzy> | aah, the trains are in dbsetxl |
| 15:47 | <mrfrenzy> | okay smatz |
| 15:47 | <Gonozal_VIII> | yes, ecs extension only changes the cargos |
| 15:47 | <mrfrenzy> | I will have to add some trains though, because now I can't transport all cargos by train |
| 15:48 | <Patrick`> | mmm, trains |
| 15:48 | <SmatZ> | :-) |
| 15:48 | <Gonozal_VIII> | i think you will get some problems with long vehicles and modern tram set too |
| 15:48 | <Gonozal_VIII> | that trams have wrong prices/running cost and replace most of the trucks |
| 15:49 | <mrfrenzy> | creating a grf mix is not so easy as it seems ;) |
| 15:49 | <mrfrenzy> | maybe there are some good mixes that I just could steal? |
| 15:49 | <SmatZ> | (even if GRF is "Disabled", it can affect the game... don't ask me further :) - but in one openttdcoop game there was a Disabled GRF, and removing it caused correct sprites to be used for crossings |
| 15:49 | <SmatZ> | with that "Disabled" GRF, it was using rail sprites for maglev crossing sprites |
| 15:49 | <mrfrenzy> | okay |
| 15:50 | <mrfrenzy> | maybe you could post your favourite grf settings? ;) |
| 15:50 | <SmatZ> | I play without GRFs... but you can use openttdcoop grf settings :) |
| 15:51 | <mrfrenzy> | good idea |
| 15:51 | <SmatZ> | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Public_Server_openttd.cfg if it is not outdated... |
| 15:51 | <Maedhros> | woah, there are people who play without newgrfs? |
| 15:51 | <Maedhros> | ;-) |
| 15:52 | <Gonozal_VIII> | i couldn't believe it too meadhros |
| 15:52 | <@Belugas> | yup |
| 15:52 | <mrfrenzy> | thanks to you all, I will run with that and then we'll see if there are any desyncs ;) |
| 15:52 | <@Belugas> | and there are even people who do not play! |
| 15:52 | <SmatZ> | last time I played, it was in ~summer 2006 I think... since then, I have played only some openttdcoop games :) |
| 15:52 | <Gonozal_VIII> | that's like the people that are still playing with 0.5.3 |
| 15:53 | <@Belugas> | silly people |
| 15:53 | <SmatZ> | :-D |
| 15:53 | <Ammler> | was that ever reported as Bug report/fix? |
| 15:53 | <Ammler> | http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=34870&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a |
| 15:53 | <@peter1138> | Bing Bang Bong |
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| 15:53 | <SmatZ> | let's connect to 0.5.3 server and use some 0.5.3 exploit :) |
| 15:54 | <SmatZ> | to get tons of money |
| 15:54 | <Ammler> | SmatZ: superbus? |
| 15:54 | <Ammler> | or are there easier things? |
| 15:54 | <SmatZ> | Ammler: I don't know that one :) |
| 15:55 | <Ammler> | SmatZ: http://www.openttdcoop.org/blog/2006/08/18/superbuses/ |
| 15:55 | <SmatZ> | I had in mind that "player 0 bankrupts" to get a lot of money |
| 15:55 | <@peter1138> | Ammler, it's a "design feature" of the original graphics, not a bug. |
| 15:55 | <Ammler> | peter1138: wouldn't it make sense to include that in openttd.grf? |
| 15:55 | <SmatZ> | I think the current revision changes the position of the station sign in all cases |
| 15:55 | <@peter1138> | No, you can just use that grf... |
| 15:56 | <SmatZ> | there were no cargo packets in 0.5.3, you should be able to do that "cargo from ghost station - tile 0" cheat :) |
| 15:56 | <SmatZ> | or crashing trains in opponent stations |
| 15:56 | <SmatZ> | making crossings red forever |
| 15:56 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: glx * r12331 /trunk/src/ (newgrf_engine.cpp train_cmd.cpp vehicle.cpp vehicle_base.h): -Feature: [NewGRF] vehicle variable FE bit 8 |
| 15:56 | <SmatZ> | or let a train on crossing |
| 15:56 | <SmatZ> | without making it red |
| 15:57 | <SmatZ> | so buses suicidally drive into it :-D |
| 15:57 | <Ammler> | SmatZ: I guess, that "superbus" thing was on the 0.4.8er then |
| 15:57 | <Phantasm> | Afaik in the current version the station sign does change place if the original station piece or removed? |
| 15:58 | <Ammler> | Phantasm: we are speaking about 0.5er revisions |
| 15:58 | <SmatZ> | "ghost trains" with flooded, "gray", wagons |
| 15:58 | <Phantasm> | And I'm wondering about how it is in current version. |
| 15:58 | <SmatZ> | asserts/crashes sometimes :-p |
| 15:58 | <Ammler> | Phantasm: yeah, the signs walk with station :-) |
| 15:59 | <SmatZ> | there are many bugs fixed since 0.5.3 |
| 15:59 | <Phantasm> | Anyway, I recall the station sign stays put unless you remove the first station piece.. More realistically it should be in middle of all the pieces. |
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| 16:18 | <@glx> | Phantasm: the station sign is in the middle of the station area |
| 16:19 | <Phantasm> | When was that changed? At least in 0.6.0 beta 3 it wasn't. |
| 16:20 | <@glx> | it is in trunk since before beta4 IIRC |
| 16:21 | <@glx> | s/beta4/beta1 |
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| 16:21 | <SmatZ> | I don't know about that feature... |
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| 16:22 | <SmatZ> | and it doesn't seem to bevahe that way in trunk |
| 16:22 | <Wolf01> | is not a feature, is an exploit fix |
| 16:22 | <SmatZ> | okok |
| 16:22 | <SmatZ> | :) |
| 16:22 | <@peter1138> | It's not in the middle, but it does move. |
| 16:22 | <SmatZ> | I think it has been moving... for very long time |
| 16:22 | <@glx> | or at least it should |
| 16:23 | <SmatZ> | the only case I know about it doesn't move |
| 16:23 | <SmatZ> | is when an airport is replaced... |
| 16:23 | <SmatZ> | (one FS task) |
| 16:23 | <SmatZ> | usermade patch |
| 16:26 | <@glx> | hmm right, the station sign is moved only if it is goes outside the station rect |
| 16:26 | <SmatZ> | http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1562 |
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| 16:32 | <ln-> | señores pasajeros, is there any significant, open-source train-driving simulator that compiles on e.g. Linux? |
| 16:33 | <Phantasm> | glx: At least in beta3 the station sign isn't in the middle of the station are for sure. |
| 16:33 | <Phantasm> | glx: So, if it has been supposed to be on since beta1 it either doesn't work or hasn't been there. |
| 16:33 | <mrfrenzy> | hmm If I use the bomb tool on a 14x1002 area in the scenario editor the game crashes "Assertion failed" |
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| 16:34 | <@glx> | Phantasm: indeed, it is always in station rectangle (it moves if it goes outside) |
| 16:34 | <SmatZ> | mrfrenzy: known bug, fixed already |
| 16:35 | <Phantasm> | glx: But it should be in the middle (at the 'mass centre'). |
| 16:35 | <@glx> | maybe one day :) |
| 16:35 | <mrfrenzy> | okay smatz, so I guess I should be runing the nightly rather than the beta |
| 16:35 | <SmatZ> | mrfrenzy: or wait for beta5... |
| 16:36 | <Gonozal_VIII> | beta 5? |
| 16:37 | <Gonozal_VIII> | how many more betas do you want :S |
| 16:38 | <@Belugas> | hoping sincerely beta5 will be the last one |
| 16:38 | <@Belugas> | one of the reasons there has been a reduction of commits lately... |
| 16:39 | <@Belugas> | so many stuff awaiting the release of 0.6... |
| 16:39 | <@Belugas> | BRANCHING!!!! |
| 16:39 | <ln-> | Bjarni!!!! |
| 16:39 | <Gonozal_VIII> | wouldn't that mean even more work? |
| 16:39 | <ln-> | is not here |
| 16:39 | <SmatZ> | :-D |
| 16:40 | <@Belugas> | mmh.. |
| 16:40 | <@Belugas> | BSOMETHING!!! |
| 16:40 | <ln-> | we can conclude that yelling here does not reach him when he's offline. |
| 16:41 | <Gonozal_VIII> | you could script dorpsgek to sms him if he's highlighted here :-) |
| 16:42 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: peter1138 * r12332 /trunk/src/train_cmd.cpp: -Fix (r12331): Invalidate cached data and update image after setting flag. |
| 16:50 | <ln-> | 23:47 <@xxxx> while(!sleep){sheep++;} |
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| 16:51 | <Gekz> | lol |
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