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| 02:07 | <Forked> | meep meep.. |
| 02:14 | * | Eddi|zuHause2 unpacks the newest ACME box |
| 02:24 | <Forked> | that MIGHT backfire =p |
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| 03:01 | <Gekz> | :o |
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| 03:16 | <dih> | good morning ladies |
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| 03:19 | <Draakon> | hello everyone |
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| 03:30 | <bumblebee> | nooish question incoming, how do i add these patches -> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=36127, to the game? |
| 03:31 | <Alberth> | Maybe with BuildOTTD? http://wiki.openttd.com/index.php/BuildOTTD |
| 03:32 | <Draakon> | bumblebee; Download this patch: http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=86353 and use BuildOTTD to patch the source and compile |
| 03:32 | <Draakon> | if you want all the patches in |
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| 03:42 | <Tefad> | homestarrunner eh |
| 03:43 | <Draakon> | uh? |
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| 03:46 | <Poopsmith> | hehe yep Tefad |
| 03:58 | <bumblebee> | i got compiled failed when i opened the gonozal patch with buildttd thingy |
| 03:59 | <bumblebee> | any suggestions to what could have gone wrong? |
| 04:02 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | try to compile without patch first |
| 04:02 | <Draakon> | are you sure you got r12180? |
| 04:03 | <bumblebee> | how do u check that? so sorry im realy new in this stuff |
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| 04:04 | <Draakon> | first of all, what are you running in? Windows, Mac or Linux? |
| 04:04 | <bumblebee> | win XP |
| 04:04 | <Draakon> | and with what you got the nightly source? |
| 04:06 | <bumblebee> | i dont know what you mean :S |
| 04:07 | <Draakon> | do you even know what nightly is? |
| 04:07 | <bumblebee> | well, no :S so far i have just played openttd |
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| 04:08 | <Draakon> | well then i think you are playing in plain binary, aka 0.60 beta 4? |
| 04:09 | <bumblebee> | 0.5.3 it says when i start the game |
| 04:10 | <Draakon> | the patch you are trying to apply cant be applied to 0.5.3 or 0.6.0 Beta 1-4, only plain Nightly |
| 04:10 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | bumblebee: there should be a compiled version of gonozal's patch pack |
| 04:10 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | just use that one |
| 04:11 | <Draakon> | Bumblee: http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Nightly check this page for more info on nightly |
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| 04:19 | <Draakon> | wtf? since when in daylenght patch you can increase the daylenght factor over 36? |
| 04:19 | <bumblebee> | nightly is the latest openttd patch correct? |
| 04:20 | <Draakon> | no |
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| 04:20 | <Draakon> | its the latest version you can get with the newest features and fixes |
| 04:21 | <Draakon> | and being updated 24/7 |
| 04:21 | <Wolf01> | hello |
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| 04:21 | <Draakon> | hi |
| 04:22 | <yorick> | hello |
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| 04:26 | <Draakon> | dam it |
| 04:28 | <Draakon> | heh |
| 04:28 | <Draakon> | i need a tutorial course on PBS |
| 04:29 | <Poopsmith> | PBS? |
| 04:30 | <Draakon> | path based signaling |
| 04:30 | <Poopsmith> | ahh |
| 04:30 | <Draakon> | feature that is in Patch but being made for OpenTTD currently(avabile from development forum) |
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| 04:46 | <Poopsmith> | i'll have to look at it... from the name, it sounds useful |
| 04:47 | <Draakon> | indeed its usefull |
| 04:48 | <Draakon> | you know the very basic T-Junction where all the railways crossed each other? |
| 04:48 | <questionmark> | yes |
| 04:48 | <Draakon> | aka this http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Basic_3-Way |
| 04:49 | <Draakon> | well PBS lets 2 trains coming from north for example be on the same junction at the same time if they both go south |
| 04:49 | <Draakon> | or one takes a turn that the other wont be interrupted |
| 04:49 | <Poopsmith> | ooo |
| 04:50 | <Poopsmith> | so multiple trains can enter an intersection, provided they won't collide? |
| 04:50 | <Draakon> | http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Path_Based_Signaling and http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/PBS |
| 04:50 | <Draakon> | Yes |
| 04:50 | <Draakon> | check those pages i gave for more info |
| 04:50 | <Poopsmith> | wicked |
| 04:50 | <Poopsmith> | that will often make things easier |
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| 04:51 | <Poopsmith> | then again, i'm still getting used to things like presignals :P |
| 04:51 | <Draakon> | eh |
| 04:52 | <Draakon> | i just got to play PBS for the first time |
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| 05:10 | <@peter1138> | Bah, you can’t load and unload cargo at the same station :( |
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| 05:15 | <Draakon> | er, |
| 05:15 | <Draakon> | erm |
| 05:15 | <Draakon> | you can |
| 05:17 | <Draakon> | hmm |
| 05:17 | <@peter1138> | Not from and to it. |
| 05:17 | <@peter1138> | I have a coal mine next to a steel mill. |
| 05:18 | <Draakon> | that kind of system wont give you no income |
| 05:19 | <Draakon> | but it is possibile if you build at the beginning a 7 tiles long station, destroy 1 tile in the middle and build a railroad there. Then after that make a train that makes a full load and unload on that same station |
| 05:19 | <Draakon> | but the train wont make no profit |
| 05:20 | <@peter1138> | Careful of your double negatives there. |
| 05:21 | <Draakon> | ? |
| 05:21 | <@peter1138> | "Won't make no profit" does not mean what you meant to say. |
| 05:22 | <Draakon> | so you say they make some money? |
| 05:22 | <Draakon> | if they load and unload at the same station |
| 05:22 | <@peter1138> | No, you're saying they do. |
| 05:22 | <@peter1138> | They won't make a profit. |
| 05:23 | <@peter1138> | They will make no profit. |
| 05:23 | <Draakon> | i sayd wont |
| 05:23 | <Draakon> | said* |
| 05:23 | <Draakon> | not they will |
| 05:23 | <@peter1138> | You said "they won't make no profit" which means they will. |
| 05:24 | <Draakon> | won't is a no word |
| 05:24 | <Draakon> | will is a yes word |
| 05:24 | <Draakon> | i said the no word |
| 05:25 | <Yexo> | you said the no word with another no after it (no profit) |
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| 05:25 | <Yexo> | but if you just give a full load order, trains do unload if they can't, don't they? |
| 05:25 | <Yexo> | * if they can |
| 05:25 | <Draakon> | no |
| 05:26 | <Draakon> | onyl full |
| 05:26 | <Draakon> | only* |
| 05:26 | <Yexo> | ok, wasn't sure about that |
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| 05:27 | <@peter1138> | I'm using road vehicles, anyway. |
| 05:27 | <Draakon> | road? |
| 05:27 | <Draakon> | hmm |
| 05:27 | <@peter1138> | And they won't unload. |
| 05:27 | <Draakon> | then do this |
| 05:27 | <@peter1138> | Even with an unload order. |
| 05:27 | <@peter1138> | I just made a second stop ;) |
| 05:27 | <Draakon> | build a station-road-depot |
| 05:27 | <Draakon> | in that order |
| 05:27 | <Draakon> | if you do like this |
| 05:28 | <Draakon> | when they have full loaded, they go to depot and then back to station for unloading |
| 05:28 | <Draakon> | and when unloaded, the same time full load |
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| 05:32 | <Draakon> | peter, you have iron ore mine and steel mill together right? |
| 05:32 | <@peter1138> | Coal and steel. |
| 05:32 | <@peter1138> | Using Pikka's industries. |
| 05:33 | <Draakon> | k |
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| 05:34 | <Draakon> | any vehicle newgrfs? |
| 05:34 | <Draakon> | rv* |
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| 05:37 | <Draakon> | eh |
| 05:37 | <Draakon> | my game crashed of testing the above explained system |
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| 05:40 | <@peter1138> | I'm using grvts |
| 05:42 | <Draakon> | hmm |
| 05:43 | <Draakon> | i quess i have mistaken by the RVs but the trains should have get some money |
| 05:43 | <Draakon> | if using only 1 station as load&unload |
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| 05:50 | <Gonozal_VIII> | 12:25:35 < Yexo> but if you just give a full load order, trains do unload if they can't, don't they? |
| 05:50 | <Gonozal_VIII> | 12:25:46 < Yexo> * if they can |
| 05:50 | <Gonozal_VIII> | 12:25:57 < Draakon> no |
| 05:50 | <Gonozal_VIII> | 12:26:00 < Draakon> onyl full |
| 05:50 | <Gonozal_VIII> | liar! |
| 05:50 | <Draakon> | uh? |
| 05:50 | <Gonozal_VIII> | full load unloads first if the station accepts |
| 05:51 | <Draakon> | no |
| 05:51 | <Draakon> | it doesnt |
| 05:51 | <Draakon> | full load only full loads |
| 05:51 | <Draakon> | nothing else |
| 05:51 | <Gonozal_VIII> | does too |
| 05:51 | <Yexo> | Now I'll go test :) |
| 05:51 | <Gonozal_VIII> | my passenger lines always have full load on both sides |
| 05:51 | <Yexo> | that's right! |
| 05:52 | <Yexo> | And I sometimes have busses with full load on two stations, that'd never work if they didn't unload |
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| 05:52 | <LordAzamath> | hello |
| 05:52 | <Draakon> | Gonozal: are you even using some patches? |
| 05:52 | <Yexo> | hi LordAzamath |
| 05:52 | <Yexo> | bye |
| 05:52 | <Gonozal_VIII> | has nothing to do with patches |
| 05:53 | <Draakon> | has |
| 05:53 | <Draakon> | they change stuff |
| 05:54 | <Gonozal_VIII> | if that doesn't work anymore it's a bug in the patch |
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| 05:54 | <Gonozal_VIII> | only loading at a station that accepts the cargo is transfer and take cargo |
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| 05:56 | <Draakon> | pff, wtf? |
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| 05:57 | <Draakon> | ah fucking internet |
| 05:57 | <Gonozal_VIII> | could happen to me too anytime... stupid storm |
| 05:57 | <Gonozal_VIII> | power gone for some split seconds and router resets |
| 05:57 | <Draakon> | no |
| 05:57 | <Draakon> | it wasnt power failure |
| 05:57 | <Draakon> | for me |
| 05:58 | <Draakon> | something is wrong with my internet this days |
| 05:58 | <Gonozal_VIII> | these :-) |
| 05:58 | <Draakon> | grammaticaster |
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| 05:59 | <Gonozal_VIII> | hehe |
| 06:00 | <Gonozal_VIII> | usually not but singular/plural stuff should be right.. |
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| 06:03 | <Draakon> | fuck |
| 06:04 | <Draakon> | ah g2g cya |
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| 06:05 | <dih> | that is the only kid i know that can join, swear, feel the urge to tell us that he has to leave, and leave |
| 06:05 | <Roujin> | g'day |
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| 06:06 | <Alberth> | dih: rofl! |
| 06:07 | <guru3> | c, time el |
| 06:07 | <guru3> | wrong channel... *whistles* |
| 06:07 | <Gonozal_VIII> | was that spanish or something? |
| 06:07 | <Gonozal_VIII> | because of the el^^ |
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| 06:09 | <questionmark> | :D |
| 06:10 | <guru3> | no spanish involved |
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| 06:16 | <dih> | whatd does questionmark do here? |
| 06:17 | <Patrick`> | idle, I guess |
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| 06:35 | <dih> | !help |
| 06:35 | <dih> | questionmark: help |
| 06:35 | <questionmark> | dih: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
| 06:36 | <dih> | questionmark: list |
| 06:36 | <questionmark> | dih: Admin, Alias, Anonymous, Channel, ChannelStats, Config, Ctcp, Filter, Format, Games, Herald, Insult, Internet, Later, Math, Misc, Network, News, NickCapture, Nickometer, Note, Owner, Plugin, Protector, Quote, Reply, Seen, Services, Status, String, Time, Topic, URL, User, Utilities, and Web |
| 06:36 | <roboboy> | !List |
| 06:36 | <Wolf01> | http://www.openttd.org/downloads.php |
| 06:36 | <Wolf01> | http://www.openttd.org/nightly.php |
| 06:36 | <roboboy> | questionmark are you a supybot? |
| 06:37 | <Wolf01> | and now why my irc started to type by itself? |
| 06:37 | <Wolf01> | ah, the list.. |
| 06:37 | <Gonozal_VIII> | ^^ |
| 06:38 | <Wolf01> | i thought it was enabled only for the italian channel |
| 06:38 | <Wolf01> | ok, another if statement on the script |
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| 06:39 | <Gonozal_VIII> | italian openttd channel? |
| 06:39 | <Gonozal_VIII> | why? |
| 06:39 | <Gonozal_VIII> | are there many italians playing openttd that can't write english? |
| 06:39 | <Wolf01> | because there is an italian community too? |
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| 06:41 | <dih> | talking of italians |
| 06:41 | <dih> | i ordered 4 pizzas yesterday |
| 06:42 | <dih> | it took them an hour to fine me |
| 06:42 | <dih> | ONE HOUR |
| 06:42 | <Wolf01> | maybe you ordered directly from italy |
| 06:42 | <dih> | that's what i said ^^ |
| 06:43 | <dih> | in fact i said if i had ordered directly from italy it would have gotten here faster |
| 06:45 | <Patrick`> | oh no |
| 06:45 | <Patrick`> | an hour for pizza |
| 06:45 | <Patrick`> | it's bizzare that specifically a lot of italians should be attracted to the game |
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| 07:25 | <Yorick> | nooo |
| 07:26 | <LordAzamath> | nooo |
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| 07:26 | <Rubidium> | iie |
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| 07:40 | <Yorick> | ?list |
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| 07:40 | <Yorick> | ?part |
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| 07:40 | <LA[lord]> | !logs |
| 07:40 | <SpComb> | Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd |
| 07:42 | <Yorick> | peter1138: ... |
| 07:43 | <Yorick> | is that done for a reason? |
| 07:43 | <LA[lord]> | why is ? banned? |
| 07:43 | <Yorick> | if it's because its a bot, what is DorpsGek doing here? |
| 07:44 | <Yorick> | and me? |
| 07:44 | <LA[lord]> | ^^ |
| 07:44 | <LA[lord]> | and SpBot |
| 07:44 | <Yorick> | 13:59:53 -!- mode/#openttd [+b questionmark!*@*] by peter1138 |
| 07:45 | <Patrick`> | unsolicited bot, probably |
| 07:46 | <Yorick> | and I'm solicited? |
| 07:46 | <LA[lord]> | Patrick`: What does unsloicited mean? |
| 07:46 | <Patrick`> | didn't ask for it, didn't know the person who runs it |
| 07:46 | <Patrick`> | just randomly turned up one day |
| 07:46 | <Yorick> | huh? |
| 07:47 | <Yorick> | it turned up today |
| 07:47 | <LA[lord]> | it didn't randomly turn up either... |
| 07:47 | <Yorick> | it was just logging things |
| 07:47 | <Patrick`> | I dunno the story |
| 07:47 | <Yorick> | guru3 is logging things aswell |
| 07:47 | <LA[lord]> | Yorick has introduced it too.. |
| 07:48 | <Yorick> | ok, it won't be here anymore... as long as you make it like I CAN JOIN FROM MY HOME IP |
| 07:50 | <guru3> | eh? what's this about me? |
| 07:50 | <Yorick> | you're logging things too |
| 07:50 | <Yorick> | for displaying on a website |
| 07:50 | <LA[lord]> | but ?`got banned |
| 07:50 | <guru3> | not for displaying |
| 07:51 | <guru3> | i just generate stats |
| 07:51 | <Yorick> | same |
| 07:51 | <guru3> | i'm also a real person though |
| 07:51 | <Yorick> | sometimes |
| 07:52 | <Yorick> | should I ask permission to use you as an example the next time? |
| 07:52 | <guru3> | what? |
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| 07:52 | <Yorick> | __I just told__ |
| 07:53 | <Yorick> | peter1138: why? |
| 07:53 | <LA[lord]> | Yorick: I doubt he is @KB reight now |
| 07:53 | <Yorick> | :( |
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| 08:08 | <Purno> | any php-scripter available who can help me with something which should be fairly easy? |
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| 08:22 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | why can people never ask _real_ questions? |
| 08:22 | <Forked> | does anyone know computers?? I need help |
| 08:24 | <Rubidium> | Eddi|zuHause2: are you going to correctly answer those real question? |
| 08:24 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | i can't answer without the question. |
| 08:26 | <Rubidium> | How's the system used in Tokyo to prevent overflows of canals due to typhoons called? It's a series of tunnels and resevoirs. |
| 08:28 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | see... at least that is a question that i know that i don't know the answer to. |
| 08:28 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | besides, it is missing a questionmark |
| 08:28 | <Rubidium> | but... it has been on discovery channel |
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| 08:35 | <Rubidium> | hmm, that sucks; you have to understand Japanese to go on the tour for 'security reason'. It's called the Edogawa River Project or G-Cans Project if you're interested in it. |
| 08:38 | <Yorick> | why is questionmark banned? |
| 08:38 | <dih> | what do you need it here for? |
| 08:38 | <Yorick> | logging while I'm not here |
| 08:41 | <Yorick> | !logs |
| 08:41 | <SpComb> | Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd |
| 08:44 | <Yorick> | < Eddi|zuHause2> besides, it is missing a questionmark <-- yes, we know questionmark isn't here :D |
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| 08:57 | <dih> | Yorick: logs are also at thegrebs.com |
| 08:58 | <Yorick> | thanks |
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| 09:18 | <XeryusTC> | !wiki |
| 09:18 | <Yorick> | try on #openttdcop |
| 09:18 | <Yorick> | coop* |
| 09:22 | * | glx adds that to the kick script :) |
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| 10:28 | <ln-> | http://www.sjk.se/tag/nybild/20080217c.jpg |
| 10:29 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | uuups ;) |
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| 10:30 | <ln-> | it wasn't me! |
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| 10:41 | <Yorick> | !wiki |
| 10:41 | -!- | Yorick was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [Wrong channel. Retry in #openttdcoop.] |
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| 10:41 | <Yorick> | :) |
| 10:42 | <+glx> | it works :) |
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| 10:45 | <Yorick> | I still want to know the reason questionmark is banned |
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| 10:47 | <LA[lord]> | ln-: monorail? |
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| 11:16 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | hm... r12252 does horrible things with YAPP... but i don't know enough of the code to figure it out... |
| 11:18 | <+glx> | but it was a request from YAPP coder :) |
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| 11:19 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | yes, but i can't find an updated yapp |
| 11:20 | <Gonozal_VIII> | updated yapp? |
| 11:20 | <Yorick> | brb |
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| 11:21 | <Gonozal_VIII> | i want new yapp, gimme gimme |
| 11:21 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | learn to read, would you? |
| 11:22 | <Gonozal_VIII> | just because you can't find it :P |
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| 11:25 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | ah, Gonozal_VIII, what i wanted to ask... cargo generation amount is divided by daylength, yes? what about passenger generation? |
| 11:26 | <Gonozal_VIII> | nothing divided |
| 11:26 | <Gonozal_VIII> | longer days, more cargo... |
| 11:27 | <Gonozal_VIII> | wouldn't be much to transport otherwise |
| 11:27 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | hmm... |
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| 11:34 | <LordAzamath> | !seen skidd13 |
| 11:34 | <LordAzamath> | @seen skidd13 |
| 11:34 | <@DorpsGek> | LordAzamath: skidd13 was last seen in #openttd 6 days, 18 hours, 22 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <skidd13> LordAzamath: ??? I do |
| 11:34 | <LordAzamath> | :( |
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| 11:35 | * | Yorick has to go for 2 hours or more now |
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| 11:49 | <LordAzamath> | can dorpsgek convert decimal to hex? |
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| 11:50 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | yes |
| 11:51 | <SmatZ> | @base 16 4096 |
| 11:51 | <@DorpsGek> | SmatZ: 16534 |
| 11:51 | <SmatZ> | @base 10 16 4096 |
| 11:51 | <@DorpsGek> | SmatZ: 1000 |
| 11:54 | <LordAzamath> | :) |
| 11:55 | <LordAzamath> | @base 10 16 1283 |
| 11:55 | <@DorpsGek> | LordAzamath: 503 |
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| 12:07 | <Gonozal_VIII> | Train Crash near Brühl! 416 die in fireball after collision with tree |
| 12:08 | <SmatZ> | Gonozal_VIII: seriously? |
| 12:08 | <Diabolic-Angel> | For a second I thought that was real news o0 |
| 12:08 | <Diabolic-Angel> | then i saw the channel name |
| 12:08 | <Gonozal_VIII> | well... +-416 dead... and maybe there was no fireball.. |
| 12:09 | <Gonozal_VIII> | but an ice hit a tree today |
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| 12:13 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | the poor tree |
| 12:13 | <SmatZ> | :-x |
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| 12:14 | <Gonozal_VIII> | yes, i'm quite sure the tree didn't survive |
| 12:17 | <SmatZ> | it was dead already before the train crashed |
| 12:17 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | well, with a storm like this, something was bound to happen |
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| 12:17 | <Gonozal_VIII> | it was stormy here too... for about half an hour |
| 12:18 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | the whole day now |
| 12:18 | <Roujin> | it even snowed where i live |
| 12:19 | <Gonozal_VIII> | my mother said that she saw parts of a plastic roof that almost hit parked cars... the poor cars |
| 12:19 | <ln-> | i wouldn't dare to travel on TTD trains. 100% mortality rate in every accident. |
| 12:19 | <SmatZ> | :-D |
| 12:20 | <Roujin> | something completely different.. I made a new signature for my patches in the forum, what do you think about it? 8) |
| 12:20 | <LordAzamath> | yeah... A small bump with front engine and last wagons all explode |
| 12:20 | <Gonozal_VIII> | i would go everywhere by ship... they are 100% save |
| 12:20 | <LordAzamath> | Gonozal_VIII: And 100% slow |
| 12:20 | <Gonozal_VIII> | but you don't die^^ |
| 12:20 | <ln-> | http://users.utu.fi/lanurm/ottd/increased_passenger_safety-multiplayer_unsafe.diff |
| 12:20 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | and 100% CPU power ;) |
| 12:21 | <Forked> | ln-: not if a train hits a bus.. the train is fine and keeps going? |
| 12:21 | <ln-> | Forked: well, yes. but then i wouldn't want to be in that bus. |
| 12:21 | <Forked> | hehe |
| 12:21 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | ln-: why rand() and not Random()? |
| 12:21 | <Forked> | but you'd look great as an invisible pixel |
| 12:22 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | would probably solve the multiplayer bit |
| 12:22 | <ln-> | maybe i didn't remember Random() back then. |
| 12:24 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | ln-: what happens with an empty train? |
| 12:24 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | i kinda fear division by 0 |
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| 12:24 | <Gonozal_VIII> | hmm is modulo 0 bad too? |
| 12:24 | <ln-> | it is |
| 12:24 | <ln-> | depending on platform |
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| 12:24 | <SmatZ> | you have at least 2 drivers |
| 12:25 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | yes, but he does num-2 |
| 12:25 | <Gonozal_VIII> | leave that +2 stuff out.. |
| 12:26 | <ln-> | or, use PPC where division by zero does not crash a program. |
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| 12:27 | <Gonozal_VIII> | rand % num should be enough... why should the crew have no chance of survival? |
| 12:27 | <hylje> | because the train FUCKING BLOWS UP |
| 12:27 | <hylje> | all of it, not just the loco |
| 12:27 | <Gonozal_VIII> | hehe^^ |
| 12:28 | <Gonozal_VIII> | there should be different result based on speed... only a long breakdown for slow trains or something like that |
| 12:28 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | why would potentially undefined behaviour be preferable to crash? |
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| 12:29 | <Gonozal_VIII> | imho it should just be defined as something in pc use.. integer division has strange rules anyways |
| 12:31 | <Gonozal_VIII> | x / 0 = max value of the data type or something like that |
| 12:31 | <ln-> | one could argue that integer overflow should also crash a program, like division by zero does on many platforms. |
| 12:31 | <ln-> | Gonozal_VIII: on PPC, x / 0 appears to be 0. |
| 12:33 | <Gonozal_VIII> | openttd would crash at least every few hours if overflow would crash stuff |
| 12:33 | <Gonozal_VIII> | _tick_counter is always increased, never set back |
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| 12:48 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | Gonozal_VIII: no, the other way round, it would have been programmed to catch that |
| 12:50 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | ln-: but cyclic addition is a good mathematical foundation, whereas x/0=0 is a totally random definition |
| 12:50 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | besides, the processor sets an overflow flag, which makes it an exact result of the addition (just you have one bit too many) |
| 12:51 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | and i know the borland pascal compiler had a flag to tell wether overflow should cause a crash/exception |
| 12:52 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | only the C definition says "ahh... f*ck it" |
| 12:54 | <ln-> | 0 == avg(-inf, inf) |
| 12:54 | <ln-> | (i'm not serious) |
| 12:56 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | lim[n->inf](avg(-n,85*n)) == ? |
| 12:57 | <SmatZ> | -inf |
| 12:57 | <SmatZ> | depends on your definition of avg |
| 12:57 | <ln-> | we'll divide both by infinity, and get avg(0,0) == 0 |
| 12:57 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | avg(x,y) = (x+y)/2 |
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| 12:58 | <Eddi|zuHause2> | and i would really like to see how you get to -inf on that one ;) |
| 12:58 | <SmatZ> | lim[n->inf](avg(-n,n)) = lim[n->inf]((n-n)/2) = lim[n->inf](0) = 0 |
| 12:58 | <SmatZ> | [18:56:16][18:56:16] <Eddi|zuHause2> lim[n->inf](avg(-n,85*n)) == ? |
| 12:58 | <SmatZ> | errr I read it as "-n, 0,85*n" |
| 13:00 | <ln-> | SmatZ: misreading the formulas doesn't significantly affect on the validity of these theorems. |
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| 13:46 | <LordAzamath> | @base 10 16 2676 |
| 13:46 | <@DorpsGek> | LordAzamath: A74 |
| 13:47 | <ln-> | @base 9 26 8134 |
| 13:47 | <@DorpsGek> | ln-: 8KG |
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| 13:48 | <@peter1138> | :o |
| 13:49 | <ln-> | @base 26 10 peter1138 |
| 13:49 | <@DorpsGek> | ln-: Error: Invalid <number> for base 26: peter1138 |
| 13:49 | <ln-> | @base 26 10 PETER1138 |
| 13:49 | <@DorpsGek> | ln-: Error: Invalid <number> for base 26: PETER1138 |
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| 13:49 | <@peter1138> | You need base 36, I'd imagine. |
| 13:50 | <@peter1138> | @base 36 10 PETER1138 |
| 13:50 | <@DorpsGek> | peter1138: 71688864595652 |
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| 13:51 | <@peter1138> | Now I don't imagine. |
| 13:51 | <ln-> | ah, true. |
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| 13:59 | <Gonozal_VIII> | bjarni! |
| 14:00 | <Sacro> | Bjarni! |
| 14:00 | <Sacro> | what a coincidence... |
| 14:01 | <Gonozal_VIII> | bloody shoes - knights in wild satan |
| 14:03 | <ln-> | Bjarni! :D |
| 14:03 | <ln-> | let's count Bjarni's telephone number |
| 14:04 | <ln-> | @base 36 10 BJARNI |
| 14:04 | <@DorpsGek> | ln-: 697543038 |
| 14:04 | <Gonozal_VIII> | why 36? |
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| 14:05 | <ln-> | why not? |
| 14:05 | <Gonozal_VIII> | that's not a good answer... |
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| 14:11 | <Yorick> | Bjarni! |
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| 14:15 | <Phantasm> | http://hack.fi/~ghost/Why.not.to.use.water.to.put.out.burning.stearin.mkv |
| 14:15 | <Forked> | I tried that once as a kid |
| 14:15 | <Forked> | it was flamy |
| 14:16 | <Yorick> | peter1138? |
| 14:18 | <Yorick> | why did you feel like +b questionmark? |
| 14:18 | <Gonozal_VIII> | stop talking to yourself in public |
| 14:26 | <LordAzamath> | he wasn't talking to himself |
| 14:26 | <LordAzamath> | he was talking to peter1138 |
| 14:27 | <Yorick> | yes good, I scared LA away :( |
| 14:27 | * | LordAzamath is scared away |
| 14:42 | <LordAzamath> | :O |
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| 14:53 | <+glx> | Gonozal_VIII: 36 = 0-9a-z |
| 14:55 | <SmatZ> | @base 10 37 100 |
| 14:55 | <@DorpsGek> | SmatZ: base <fromBase> [<toBase>] <number> |
| 14:55 | <SmatZ> | @base 10 36 100 |
| 14:55 | <@DorpsGek> | SmatZ: 2S |
| 14:55 | <+glx> | hehe it can't write base 37 numbers |
| 14:55 | <+glx> | not enough chars |
| 14:56 | <Gonozal_VIII> | äöüß |
| 14:56 | <SmatZ> | :) |
| 14:57 | <SmatZ> | @base 10 36 2176782335 |
| 14:57 | <@DorpsGek> | SmatZ: ZZZZZZ |
| 14:58 | <+glx> | @base 36 2 glx |
| 14:58 | <@DorpsGek> | glx: 101010000010101 |
| 14:59 | <SmatZ> | LOL |
| 15:00 | <Gonozal_VIII> | @base 10 36 1337 |
| 15:00 | <@DorpsGek> | Gonozal_VIII: 115 |
| 15:00 | <Gonozal_VIII> | :-) |
| 15:00 | <ln-> | @base 10 1 1337 |
| 15:00 |
