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| 02:46 | <Ailure> | forum is down? |
| 02:46 | <Ailure> | Or is it my connection bein gD: again |
| 02:46 | <Noldo> | seems to be |
| 02:51 | <@Belugas> | forums,svn,openttd.org |
| 02:51 | <@Belugas> | EVERYTHING!!!! |
| 02:51 | <peter__> | yeah :/ |
| 02:51 | <@Belugas> | CAN'T LIVE!!! |
| 02:51 | <@Belugas> | mmh... can't sleep either :S |
| 02:51 | <peter__> | yeah |
| 02:51 | <peter__> | was going to say, you're up late :o |
| 02:52 | <Ailure> | well |
| 02:52 | <Ailure> | I realized whatever I needed |
| 02:52 | <Ailure> | is on the openttdcoop site |
| 02:52 | <Ailure> | so :) |
| 02:52 | <peter__> | latest build? |
| 02:52 | <peter__> | current svn |
| 02:53 | <peter__> | bug tracker? |
| 02:53 | <peter__> | they're all needed ;) |
| 02:53 | <Ailure> | ;p |
| 02:53 | <Ailure> | true I guess |
| 02:53 | <@Belugas> | bug tracker? naaa... this one can rest in peace ;) |
| 02:54 | <Ailure> | Call it a vacation |
| 02:54 | <Ailure> | if you must :) |
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| 02:56 | <@Belugas> | ok... i guess i should re-try the sleep battle |
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| 03:16 | <Rubidium> | Belugas: the translator, wiki and flyspray do still work ;) |
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| 04:30 | <canatella> | hello |
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| 04:31 | <canatella> | is the web site down ? |
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| 04:43 | <Digitalfox> | canatella: It seems so.. |
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| 04:54 | <l_Blue_l> | Is it just me or is the tt-forums website down atm? |
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| 05:02 | <l_Blue_l> | yay tt-forums is working for me now. |
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| 06:54 | <alekcxjo> | saluton / hello |
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| 06:55 | <keyweed> | ave / hallo / bonjour / hello / guten tag |
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| 07:40 | <Roujin> | g'day |
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| 08:07 | <alekcxjo> | help! |
| 08:07 | <alekcxjo> | i'v problem to compile |
| 08:07 | <alekcxjo> | i receive: configure: error: libpng depends on zlib, which couldn't be found / was disabled |
| 08:08 | <alekcxjo> | but zlib IS installed... |
| 08:08 | <Roujin> | what os? |
| 08:08 | <alekcxjo> | linux ubuntu 7.10 |
| 08:08 | <keyweed> | you need a diff zlib package. i had the same problem |
| 08:09 | <keyweed> | now i can only remember wich... |
| 08:09 | <alekcxjo> | and what should i make? |
| 08:09 | <keyweed> | you need to apt(itude) one of these: zlib-bin zlib1g zlib1g-dev zlibc |
| 08:09 | <keyweed> | or just all of them |
| 08:10 | <alekcxjo> | ok thanks :) |
| 08:10 | <Rubidium> | zlib1g-dev should be enough |
| 08:10 | <Rubidium> | and libpng-dev |
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| 08:10 | <roboman> | gnight |
| 08:12 | <alekcxjo> | it works! |
| 08:12 | <alekcxjo> | :D |
| 08:13 | <Sacro> | guten morgen |
| 08:13 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: frosch * r11805 /trunk/src/economy.cpp: -Fix [FS#1620]: VEHICLE_TRIGGER_EMPTY was triggered continuously while train waiting in station. |
| 08:14 | <Sacro> | svn command not found |
| 08:14 | <Sacro> | :( |
| 08:14 | <alekcxjo> | apt-get install svn ^^ |
| 08:15 | <alekcxjo> | (without ^^) |
| 08:15 | <SpComb> | subversion |
| 08:15 | <Sacro> | aot-get command not found |
| 08:15 | <Sacro> | err |
| 08:15 | <Sacro> | apt-get command not found |
| 08:15 | * | SpComb banishes the ark linux troll |
| 08:15 | * | Sacro ponders who he is referring to |
| 08:16 | <Sacro> | SpComb: no ark linux trolls here afaik |
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| 08:16 | <SpComb> | you know exactly who I was referring to |
| 08:16 | <SpComb> | I've trolled about this before |
| 08:16 | <Sacro> | probably me, but you got the wrong distro |
| 08:16 | <SpComb> | I got exactly the distro I inteded to |
| 08:16 | <Sacro> | yeah... |
| 08:17 | * | Sacro huggles *ARCH* linux |
| 08:17 | * | Sacro ignores SpComb |
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| 08:22 | <alekcxjo> | when i launch ./openttd in /bin |
| 08:23 | <alekcxjo> | it's launched like if i'd make ./openttd -D |
| 08:23 | <alekcxjo> | as a dedicaced server... |
| 08:24 | <alekcxjo> | when i launch ./openttd in /bin |
| 08:24 | <alekcxjo> | it's launched like if i'd make ./openttd -D |
| 08:25 | <alekcxjo> | as a dedicaced server... |
| 08:25 | <alekcxjo> | ... |
| 08:25 | <alekcxjo> | why? |
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| 08:40 | <SpComb> | configure --dedicated? |
| 08:43 | <Sacro> | oooh |
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| 08:43 | <Sacro> | xft antialiasing looks goooooooorgeous |
| 08:45 | <Sacro> | SpComb: actually, i have the same problem |
| 08:45 | <Sacro> | installing SDL may help |
| 08:45 | <SpComb> | and ./configure --with-sdl, if it's not on by default |
| 08:45 | <Sacro> | it is |
| 08:45 | <Sacro> | i'd just not installed SDL yet |
| 08:46 | <Sacro> | i think i might try xmonad out |
| 08:46 | <Sacro> | i quite fancy the idea of a tiling wm |
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| 08:47 | <@Belugas> | hooo my god! a commit by a non-dev :S |
| 08:47 | <Sacro> | Belugas: when? |
| 08:47 | <@Belugas> | ho.. wait... he's a dev ! |
| 08:47 | * | Sacro takes the whisky from Belugas |
| 08:50 | <@DorpsGek> | Belugas: Commit by frosch :: r11805 trunk/src/economy.cpp (2008-01-10 13:13:18 UTC) |
| 08:50 | <@DorpsGek> | Belugas: -Fix [FS#1620]: VEHICLE_TRIGGER_EMPTY was triggered continuously while train waiting in station. |
| 08:50 | <@Belugas> | that :) |
| 08:50 | <@Belugas> | no whisky at all... |
| 08:50 | * | Belugas is more on rhum |
| 08:50 | <@Belugas> | and not in the morning ;) |
| 08:50 | <Sacro> | rum? |
| 08:51 | <@Belugas> | the pirate drink ? |
| 08:51 | <@Belugas> | rhum? |
| 08:51 | <@Belugas> | rome? |
| 08:51 | <@Belugas> | rum? |
| 08:51 | <@Belugas> | rhume? |
| 08:52 | <frosch123> | rum. |
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| 08:55 | <Sacro> | !seen smatz |
| 08:55 | <Sacro> | @seen smatz |
| 08:55 | <@DorpsGek> | Sacro: smatz was last seen in #openttd 16 hours, 53 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: <SmatZ> :-D flying car |
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| 08:58 | <@Belugas> | rum it will be. don't fight 2 against 1 |
| 08:59 | <Sacro> | i need a nice linux IDE for C++ |
| 09:00 | <+glx> | eclipse? |
| 09:01 | <Sacro> | glx: is it that good? it always bugs me |
| 09:01 | -!- | Greysc[a]le is now known as Greyscale |
| 09:01 | <+glx> | dunno, never used |
| 09:01 | <Sacro> | i'm just installing monodevelop now, but that's more for uni |
| 09:11 | <Roujin> | for anyone who likes my patches, i uploaded i pack with all of them in the forums :P well gotta go now, already late for some lesson at uni xD |
| 09:11 | <Roujin> | bye |
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| 09:33 | <dihedral> | has anybody looked at the issue with setting company pass from mac and win? |
| 09:33 | <dihedral> | rephrase |
| 09:33 | <dihedral> | has anybody had a chance to have a look at |
| 09:33 | <dihedral> | ^^ |
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| 09:38 | <Draakon> | hello |
| 09:45 | <Sacro> | dihedral: first sentance is better |
| 09:45 | <dihedral> | ok |
| 09:45 | <dihedral> | then use that one ^^ |
| 09:45 | <Sacro> | because you don't care whether someone had the chance to look at it |
| 09:45 | <Sacro> | but whether someone actually did |
| 09:45 | <dihedral> | no |
| 09:45 | <dihedral> | not quite true |
| 09:46 | <dihedral> | because i am quite aware that there is more to live than just this game and it's code |
| 09:46 | <Sacro> | oh i doubt that |
| 09:46 | <Sacro> | *its |
| 09:46 | <dihedral> | and i dont want to in any way imply that i care for the code more than for what goes around other people |
| 09:49 | <Sacro> | pfft :p |
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| 09:49 | <Draakon> | Hi LA |
| 09:52 | <dihedral> | Sacro: have you actually heared of that? |
| 09:52 | <dihedral> | the issue i mean ^^ |
| 09:53 | <Sacro> | dihedral: yes i have |
| 09:53 | <Sacro> | but i have LE :p |
| 09:53 | <LA[lord]> | hi |
| 09:54 | <Draakon> | can anyone tell me what line of code and where should i change/remove to disable closure of Industries |
| 09:54 | <Sacro> | Draakon: there is a patch in dev forum |
| 09:55 | <Draakon> | i know |
| 09:55 | <Sacro> | read it ;) |
| 09:55 | <Draakon> | but options arent seperated |
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| 09:55 | <Draakon> | and i want to disable only closure of industries |
| 09:55 | <Draakon> | not opening too |
| 09:55 | <dihedral> | !! |
| 09:56 | <dihedral> | then look at the patch and edit the source after you applied it |
| 09:57 | <Draakon> | i don't know C++ |
| 09:58 | -!- | Greyscale is now known as Greysc[a]le |
| 09:58 | <dihedral> | so basically you are asking for someone to make you a patch so that you dont have to learn or do any work |
| 09:58 | <Draakon> | no |
| 09:58 | -!- | Greysc[a]le is now known as Greyscale |
| 09:58 | <Draakon> | i am asking what and where to change |
| 09:58 | -!- | Greyscale is now known as Greysc[a]le |
| 09:59 | <dihedral> | which in affect is the same |
| 09:59 | <dihedral> | :-P |
| 09:59 | -!- | Greysc[a]le is now known as Greyscale |
| 09:59 | <dihedral> | have a look at the patch and see if you can make head's and/or tails of it |
| 10:00 | <Draakon> | http://paste.openttd.org/404 will this line of code do the work? |
| 10:02 | <dihedral> | well - give you 2 ideas ^^ |
| 10:02 | <dihedral> | as static bool CheckIndustryCloseDownProtection sais, it returnes true or false |
| 10:02 | <dihedral> | set it to one of them compile and see what happens, if it does not work, try setting it to the other ^^ |
| 10:02 | <@Belugas> | if i'm not mistaken, this code handles conditional closure of grf industries |
| 10:02 | * | Belugas checks |
| 10:03 | <dihedral> | hello Belugas |
| 10:03 | <Draakon> | hmm then what about this here? http://paste.openttd.org/405 |
| 10:04 | <Draakon> | as this seems to be the code that makes no closures for industries |
| 10:04 | <dihedral> | good |
| 10:04 | <dihedral> | what is the code that looks like it's stopic it to open indus? |
| 10:04 | <dihedral> | *stoping |
| 10:05 | <Draakon> | ah' |
| 10:05 | <Draakon> | this looks like to be it: if (i->prod_level == 4) closeit = true; |
| 10:05 | <Draakon> | well i try |
| 10:06 | <+glx> | Draakon: don't touch this |
| 10:06 | <@Belugas> | wrong place, wromg code |
| 10:06 | <dihedral> | give him a chance to find out for himself :-P |
| 10:06 | <Draakon> | why not? |
| 10:06 | <Draakon> | dihedral: your not being very helpfull here |
| 10:06 | <dihedral> | i am |
| 10:06 | <dihedral> | just you will only realize later on |
| 10:06 | <+glx> | because a prod_level of 4 means it's already too late |
| 10:07 | <dihedral> | Draakon: it's more helpful if people are not given the answer, but shown how the answer can be found ^^ |
| 10:07 | <dihedral> | and if it then still does not work after a few failed tries |
| 10:08 | <@Belugas> | preventing an industry closure by code can be in many ways. |
| 10:08 | <Draakon> | dihedral: depends from people from people |
| 10:08 | <@Belugas> | preventing production to drop below 4 is one |
| 10:08 | <dihedral> | yes - depends how lazy people are |
| 10:08 | <@Belugas> | and the most secure one |
| 10:09 | <Draakon> | hmm i think i try to change the patch tottaly |
| 10:09 | <dihedral> | Draakon: big hint, dont edit the patch file itself, rather apply the patch and then edit the files |
| 10:10 | <Draakon> | why? |
| 10:11 | <Draakon> | because Tourtise SVN will get some errors if trying to apply it? |
| 10:11 | <dihedral> | one just does not edit patch files unless one _really_ knows what he/she is doing |
| 10:12 | <Draakon> | k i understand(hopefully) |
| 10:13 | <dihedral> | ^^ |
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| 10:16 | <Draakon> | does somebody knows how long it takes for a coal mine to close if no one is servicing it? |
| 10:18 | <LA[lord]> | it has to have extremely low production.,. |
| 10:18 | <LA[lord]> | and that totally depends.. |
| 10:19 | <Sacro> | it like totally does ^^ |
| 10:19 | <dihedral> | open it in a scenario editor, set prod very low, then play it |
| 10:20 | <Draakon> | ah what the heck i just use the whole patch instead |
| 10:20 | <Draakon> | :P |
| 10:20 | * | Draakon starts compiling |
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| 10:25 | * | Draakon wonders what patch most people want into the trunk? i mean which is top 1 in the Whishlist |
| 10:25 | <Draakon> | anyone knows perhaps? |
| 10:26 | <dihedral> | all the decently coded bug fixing ones ^^ |
| 10:26 | <dihedral> | where 'decently' = according to coding guidline |
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| 10:26 | <Noldo> | what do you mean by people? |
| 10:27 | <dihedral> | hehe |
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| 10:27 | <Draakon> | Noldo: you don't know English word, people? |
| 10:29 | <Draakon> | dihedral: most people want feature patches |
| 10:29 | <dihedral> | that is because the poeple you consider as 'most' are noobish players |
| 10:30 | <dihedral> | ok - perhaps drop the word 'noobish' |
| 10:30 | <Draakon> | http://paste.openttd.org/406 :S why do i get this error? |
| 10:30 | <LA[lord]> | those *feature* patches just consist of big amount of bugs usually :D |
| 10:30 | <dihedral> | hehe |
| 10:30 | <LA[lord]> | or ideas which change gameplay dramatically |
| 10:31 | <LA[lord]> | in the suggestion forums... |
| 10:31 | <dihedral> | r11786_added_bugs_feature.diff |
| 10:31 | <LA[lord]> | ? |
| 10:31 | <LA[lord]> | bugs feature??? |
| 10:31 | <dihedral> | you can switch the bugs on in the 'patches' controll windows ^^ |
| 10:31 | <LA[lord]> | hehe |
| 10:32 | <LA[lord]> | a server option -> desync player 4 |
| 10:32 | <dihedral> | LOL |
| 10:32 | <Draakon> | ah nvm about my problem, i need to download newer patch |
| 10:32 | <LA[lord]> | that would be mean.. wouldn't it :D |
| 10:32 | <dihedral> | Draakon: was about to ask what rev the patch was for |
| 10:32 | <dihedral> | LA i think i might do that - would only be a server side thing |
| 10:33 | <dihedral> | and then all clients named 'Player' get 'desynced' ^^ |
| 10:33 | <dihedral> | hehehe |
| 10:33 | <Draakon> | another server option: destroy certain company creations, everything |
| 10:33 | <LA[lord]> | dih is meanie |
| 10:34 | <dihedral> | yes - Draakon, that would be reset_company x |
| 10:34 | <Draakon> | i meant the diffrent way |
| 10:34 | <Draakon> | keep the company and money |
| 10:34 | <dihedral> | ! |
| 10:34 | <Draakon> | but not what he owns |
| 10:35 | <LA[lord]> | and dih.. I always forget to set my name before connecting, so I join as player and then change name... |
| 10:35 | <LA[lord]> | so your feature would rule me out :D' |
| 10:36 | <Draakon> | that desync one will be good |
| 10:36 | <Draakon> | as if you want to kick a certan player but not really say for them that they have been kicked |
| 10:36 | <LA[lord]> | mhmh |
| 10:37 | <LA[lord]> | but then they try to reconnect... and desync again.. and again and finally submit a bug report :D |
| 10:37 | <dihedral> | lol |
| 10:37 | <Draakon> | that one is more efficent |
| 10:37 | <Draakon> | IMO |
| 10:43 | <+glx> | <Draakon> http://paste.openttd.org/406 :S why do i get this error? <-- because you applied the patch multiple times |
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| 10:44 | <dihedral> | LOL |
| 10:51 | <Draakon> | oh |
| 10:51 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: glx * r11806 /trunk/src/players.cpp: -Fix (r11793) [FS#1638]: sign inversion when updating income and expenses |
| 10:52 | <Draakon> | i need to get new revision then |
| 10:52 | <Draakon> | of source |
| 10:53 | <+glx> | Draakon: you need to remove command_queue.cpp before patching (as it is created by the patch) |
| 10:53 | <Draakon> | i update the revision itself as it need to be updated |
| 10:54 | * | glx slaps Noldo for r11806 |
| 10:55 | <Noldo> | sorry |
| 10:55 | <Draakon> | ? |
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| 10:58 | <Draakon> | what happens if for exaple i apply a patch that is meant for r11781 to a r11765? |
| 10:58 | <Draakon> | example* |
| 10:59 | <+glx> | it may or may not work |
| 10:59 | <egladil> | it might or might not work |
| 10:59 | <pm|work> | @draakon: you may be fine or you may introduce any behaviour up to crashing your computer with the compiled executable. |
| 10:59 | <Draakon> | k |
| 11:02 | <Draakon> | :S why do i get invalid chunk size error if i have r11766 but the scenario was created with r11556 and maps that have been created with older revision not? |
| 11:03 | <+glx> | using any patches? |
| 11:04 | <dihedral> | he is trying to play the osqc scenario in his just compiled no_indu_closedown binary |
| 11:04 | <Draakon> | no |
| 11:04 | <Draakon> | not that one |
| 11:04 | <Noldo> | glx: I take my sorry back(or part of it) "+p->cur_economy.expenses += cost.GetCost();" says the diff I applied to FS |
| 11:04 | <Draakon> | a personal one that i made |
| 11:04 | <dihedral> | your ecs one? |
| 11:04 | <dihedral> | you found it again? |
| 11:04 | <Draakon> | you mean the example on? |
| 11:04 | <dihedral> | yes |
| 11:05 | <Draakon> | not that one either |
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| 11:06 | <+glx> | Noldo: and it should be "+p->cur_economy.expenses -= cost.GetCost();" as it was with the old code |
| 11:06 | <Draakon> | but you did reminder one thing to me |
| 11:07 | <Draakon> | actually 2 things |
| 11:09 | <Draakon> | thanks for remindering it, dihedral |
| 11:12 | <dihedral> | :-P |
| 11:13 | <Draakon> | i know that devs use compiling farm, but is it home made? |
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| 11:20 | <dihedral> | i believe TrueBrain developed it |
| 11:22 | <Draakon> | k just asking |
| 11:23 | <dihedral> | and if i am not mistaken, it is 'just' there for the nightlies |
| 11:24 | <Draakon> | google tour bus made a crash into tree too. |
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| 11:28 | <Draakon> | :S |
| 11:29 | <Draakon> | i found a bug in 11798 concerning new grf industries being opened, non patched game |
| 11:30 | <dihedral> | explain |
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| 11:31 | <Draakon> | a scenario was made with only one town and no industries |
| 11:31 | <Draakon> | using ECS Vectors |
| 11:31 | <Draakon> | a Industry was made |
| 11:31 | <Draakon> | and half news paper then seen |
| 11:31 | <Draakon> | and Game decided to make a crash then |
| 11:31 | <+glx> | what kind of crash? |
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| 11:33 | <Draakon> | game displays a error once above is occured |
| 11:33 | <+glx> | something like assertion failed? |
| 11:33 | <Draakon> | yes |
| 11:34 | <Draakon> | i see if i can recreate |
| 11:34 | <+glx> | retry in 11804 :) |
| 11:34 | <dihedral> | ^^ |
| 11:34 | <Draakon> | later |
| 11:35 | <Draakon> | but it isnt avabile to download |
| 11:35 | <dihedral> | now - it's available via svn |
| 11:35 | <dihedral> | *no |
| 11:35 | <+glx> | you can compile it yourself |
| 11:35 | <Draakon> | wtf? ai is wierd now too |
| 11:35 | <Draakon> | i have 2 ai players |
| 11:35 | <Draakon> | one green other blue |
| 11:36 | <+glx> | it always has been |
| 11:36 | <Draakon> | green had a statoion and a depot in a town |
| 11:36 | <SmatZ> | it has never been non-weird |
| 11:36 | <Draakon> | then blue was able to overwrite his station over green |
| 11:36 | <Draakon> | like he demolished it |
| 11:36 | <SmatZ> | Draakon: did he buy the green player? |
| 11:37 | <Draakon> | no |
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| 11:40 | <Draakon> | as i have never seen nothing like this before |
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| 11:44 | <Noldo> | glx: ok, guilty of not able to read a diff too |
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| 12:26 | <Wolf01> | hello |
| 12:27 | <Draakon> | argh |
| 12:28 | <Draakon> | a industry in ECS Vectors is causing assertion failed errors |
| 12:31 | <@Belugas> | would you be kind enough to update your repo to HEAD revision, as it has been suggeted to you Draakon? It has been fixed |
| 12:31 | <Draakon> | cant currently |
| 12:33 | <@Belugas> | well... can you recompile? i can give you the fix |
| 12:33 | <Wolf01> | or wait 1:26 hours... |
| 12:34 | <@Belugas> | http://devs.openttd.org/~belugas/patches/bugs/fs1636.patch |
| 12:34 | <@Belugas> | there |
| 12:34 | <Draakon> | cant |
| 12:34 | <Draakon> | currently |
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| 12:34 | <@Belugas> | too bad for you, sorry for you. nothing to do aobut it |
| 12:34 | <Draakon> | i know |
| 12:36 | <Wolf01> | any new feature being worked to be included in trunk 'soon'? |
| 12:36 | <@Belugas> | what?? and spoil the fun??? naaaa.... ;) |
| 12:36 | <Draakon> | please tell us |
| 12:36 | <Wolf01> | :) |
| 12:36 | <Draakon> | :P |
| 12:37 | <@Belugas> | And Silence Falls on the Channel |
| 12:37 | <Roujin> | still working on the one you told me? :P |
| 12:38 | <Roujin> | or dropped that for something else? :P |
| 12:38 | <Draakon> | after which follows of opening new shop at a random map in a town called: stanwell |
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| 12:38 | <Draakon> | a nuclear shop |
| 12:38 | <Draakon> | :D |
| 12:39 | <@Belugas> | Roujin, not recently, doing bug fixes and real life ;) |
| 12:39 | <Roujin> | i see ;) |
| 12:39 | <Roujin> | yeah real life does have some nasty bugs... |
| 12:39 | <Roujin> | glad to hear you're fixing them xD |
| 12:39 | <Draakon> | so a map with seed no. 546853584 with no. of towns set to low and no. of indus to medium with no grfs is no more usable |
| 12:40 | <Draakon> | real life has bugs? since when? |
| 12:41 | <Roujin> | you don't agree? oO |
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| 12:41 | <Roujin> | it's freakin' buggy :P |
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| 12:42 | <@Belugas> | well... when you're programming in a paied job, yeah, real life has bugs :D |
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| 12:42 | <Roujin> | e.g. the whole women thing... whoever coded them must have had one beer too much ;) |
| 12:44 | <Octave> | Hello there. |
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| 12:48 | <Roujin> | sooo.. is flyspray still the right place to go when you have a patch you'd like to see included in trunk? |
| 12:49 | <Roujin> | there's this mailbox aswell.. i dunno :/ |
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| 12:58 | <Desolator> | hi guys |
| 12:59 | -!- | Greysc[a]le is now known as Greyscale |
| 12:59 | <@Belugas> | Roujin, FlySpray in deed, the mail box seems a bit dead... TrueBrain does not manage it anymore, nor can i |
| 13:00 | <Desolator> | Does anyone know what form is recomended in C++: `int main()' or `int main(void)'? What I know is that in C `int main()' has unknown parameters (although that's obsolete in C99), while `int main(void)' takes no parameters, but what is the form recommended by the C++ standard? |
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| 13:02 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: frosch * r11807 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Codechange: Make Action5 handler more upwards- and TTDP-compatible by allowing specifiing more sprites than needed. |
| 13:02 | <+glx> | Desolator: int main(int argc, char *argv[]) |
| 13:03 | <Desolator> | no, if I don't need the arguments |
| 13:03 | <+glx> | anyway void is not needed for c++ |
| 13:03 | <Desolator> | (MSVC++ stars to yell if it finds unused variables...even arguments in main!) |
| 13:03 | <ln-> | Desolator: and Stroustrup himself thinks function(void) is ugly. |
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| 13:06 | <pavel1269> | hi |
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| 13:07 | <Desolator> | ok, now what extensino would you recommend for headers? I currently use .hpp, but I don't see it too common |
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| 13:33 | <DaleStan> | ln-: But what does he say about "function()"? I got the impression that "function(void)" was ugly because the correct form was "function()". |
| 13:34 | <ln-> | huh? |
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| 13:35 | <DaleStan> | Re Stroustrup. (Sorry, failed to note timestamps) |
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| 13:41 | <ln-> | DaleStan: I know what you were talking about, but I don't understand what do you mean by "But what does he say about "function()"?" |
| 13:42 | <ln-> | since you already said function() is the correct form, as it is. |
| 13:43 | <ln-> | so made me wonder if you say there is some semantical difference between function() and function(void). |
| 13:45 | <Desolator> | [20:07][20:07] <Desolator> ok, now what extension would you recommend for headers? I currently use .hpp, but I don't see it too common |
| 13:45 | <DaleStan> | To my knowledge, there's no semantic difference. And never mind; I didn't read enough scrollback and thought you were replying to a later line. |
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| 13:46 | <DaleStan> | I always use .h for everything; some people use .hpp for C++ and .h for C. I chose .h mostly because it means I don't have to type as much when writing #includes. |
| 13:47 | <blathijs> | DaleStan: So, you've also named files "a.h", "b.h", etc? :-p |
| 13:47 | <SmatZ> | blathijs: exactly :-D |
| 13:47 | <SmatZ> | or ".h" for really often needed include |
| 13:49 | <DaleStan> | Not quite that bad, but close. I've done quite a few "????.h" And that's not a header file, SmatZ. If the first character is a dot, it does not start the extension, Window's impressions to the contrary notwithstanding. |
| 13:53 | <blathijs> | I think you could also just say #include "a" though |
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| 13:55 | <+glx> | yes you can #include anything as you can compile anything |
| 13:56 | <+glx> | extensions don't matter for preprocessor and compiler |
| 13:56 | <SmatZ> | maybe you could write a macro |
| 13:56 | <SmatZ> | to have "#include" shorter |
| 13:57 | <ln-> | i don't think that's possible. |
| 13:57 | <ln-> | without writing your own pre-processor. |
| 13:57 | <+glx> | pre-preprocessor ;) |
| 13:57 | <ln-> | although.. i haven't tried |
| 13:59 | <ln-> | but, no, it doesn't seem to be possible. |
| 13:59 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: smatz * r11808 /trunk/config.lib: |
| 13:59 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: -Fix: remember --with-ccache in config.cache |
| 13:59 | <CIA-1> | OpenTTD: -Codechange: shuffle params a bit, sort params in save_params_array in the same order as the table above |
| 14:00 | <SmatZ> | ln-: all #include, #if, #define ... are preprocessor directives, it should be possible to define that macro |
| 14:00 | <SmatZ> | preprocessor does macro expansion, too |
| 14:01 | <ln-> | SmatZ: ok, show me an example. |
| 14:01 | <SmatZ> | but ... depends how preprocessor and compiler are divided in gcc |
| 14:01 | <Octave> | Excuse me... I have a question. Is there a place on the web, where you can organise multiplayer games with other people? I want to have a multiplayer game using a few newgrfs, but nobody is joining my server. I'm just bored with the original train set and stations... |
| 14:02 | <@Belugas> | Octave, yu can try the tt-forums, or just advertize it in here :) |
| 14:02 | <pavel1269> | :) |
| 14:03 | <SmatZ> | ln-: ok, it doesn't work |
| 14:03 | <SmatZ> | macro cannot insert # |
| 14:04 | <Wolf01> | r11808 smatz 2008-01-10 19:59:16 +0100 (Thu, 10 Jan 2008) eheh just in time :P |
| 14:05 | * | Desolator wonders why `#pragma once' isn't in the C++ standard |
| 14:05 | <SmatZ> | Wolf01: :-x |
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| 14:06 | <ln-> | Desolator: is there any #pragma in the standard? except for the #pragma directive itself. |
| 14:06 | <Desolator> | SmatZ: you're an ottd dev? I don't think I've seen you before, what's your username on the forums? |
| 14:07 | <Octave> | Well... If anybody feels like a game, the server is called !!UKRS+addon+newstats!!... |
| 14:08 | <SmatZ> | Desolator: my nick on forums is a bit strange :-x http://tt-forums.net/search.php?author_id=13268&sr=posts |
| 14:09 | * | Sacro returns |
| 14:09 | <pavel1269> | Octave: newstats? isnt that a patch? |
| 14:10 | <Wolf01> | oh noes, batman returned |
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| 14:11 | <Desolator> | SmatZ: Hmm, since when you're a dev? |
| 14:12 | <@Belugas> | quite a few revs, already :) |
| 14:12 | <pavel1269> | ) |
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| 14:14 | <Desolator> | well, since it's the first time I see you commiting code (and I've looked at the loga quite often), I'll say Congratulations! |
| 14:14 | <Octave> | Uhh, what I meant by that is the 'New Stations V.0.42'... I started a new server to avoid confusion, '!!UKRS+addon+newstV0.42!!' |
| 14:15 | <pavel1269> | :) |
| 14:16 | <SmatZ> | Desolator: maybe two months :) |
| 14:16 | <SmatZ> | Desolator: thanks :-) |
| 14:16 | <pavel1269> | no damages, advanced loading, 20+ station wide, year under 1975 and you could met me sometimes :) |
| 14:17 | <SmatZ> | Desolator: my first manual commit was r11456 :) |
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| 14:22 | <Octave> | Are those things patches? I'm quite new to openttd, multiplayer that is, I have been playing TT for about 12 years now though, I had a demo of it when it first came out that you could only have railways on! |
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| 14:25 | <Sacro> | hmm |
| 14:25 | <@Belugas> | Been a while already :) |
| 14:25 | <Desolator> | meh |
| 14:25 | <@Belugas> | err.... |
| 14:25 | <@Belugas> | [14:23][14:23] <SmatZ> Desolator: my first manual commit was r11456 :) |
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| 14:25 | <@Belugas> | stucked irc line on not current :S |
| 14:26 | <SmatZ> | Octave you may discuss at tt-forums.net |
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| 14:26 | <Draakon> | hello |
| 14:26 | <SmatZ> | hello Draakon |
| 14:26 | <pavel1269> | hi |
| 14:27 | <Desolator> | hi |
| 14:28 | <@orudge> | Any sound engineers here? :P http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=35710 |
| 14:28 | <Desolator> | great, I got a translation of "Everything about C and C++" in Romanian, and guess what? void main(void) !..I hope it's the only big mistake in it |
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| 14:29 | <@orudge> | void main(void) is not necessarily incorrect |
| 14:29 | <Desolator> | (though it was written in 1997 and I think that time it was allowed but not recommended at all in C89) |
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| 14:29 | <Sacro> | orudge: excessive though |
| 14:29 | <Desolator> | well from C99 onwards it's illegal (on most compiler works, that's another thing) |
| 14:31 | <Desolator> | orudge: why don't we use an archive and store each file in a simple format? maybe some ogg files coupled in a tar and named something like "sounds.tar" |
| 14:31 | <Desolator> | sample.cat makes little sense to me |
| 14:31 | <@orudge> | Desolator: well |
| 14:31 | <@orudge> | sample.cat is just to put things in the game as they are now |
| 14:32 | <@orudge> | the plan is to redesign the sound format, indeed |
| 14:32 | <pv2b> | doesnt the openttd code already support looking in .tar files? |
| 14:32 | <Desolator> | it does |
| 14:32 | <pv2b> | i seem to distinctly remember that from mucking about in that part of the code |
| 14:32 | <@orudge> | for sounds? |
| 14:32 | <@orudge> | hmm |
| 14:32 | <Desolator> | not for sounds, but it can handle tars |
| 14:32 | <@orudge> | ah |
| 14:32 | <pv2b> | not sure if it can see individual resource files |
| 14:32 | <Desolator> | see the 32bpp gfx format |
| 14:33 | <@orudge> | well |
| 14:33 | <@orudge> | the sound engine needs a redesign anyway |
| 14:33 | <@orudge> | for both sound and music |
| 14:33 | <Desolator> | I remeber a patch you made, though it's EXTREMELY old |
| 14:33 | <@orudge> | something I did once already for music, but that got out of date and wasn't tht nice |
| 14:33 | <@orudge> | *that |
| 14:33 | <Draakon> | yup iy needs |
| 14:33 | <Desolator> | how did you handle mp3s? |
| 14:33 | <@orudge> | and something I've started again, but not in any serious form |
| 14:33 | <Draakon> | it* |
| 14:33 | <@orudge> | I used a library for MP3s |
| 14:33 | <@oru |
