TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#openttd:2008:01:05

---	Log	opened Sat Jan 05 00:00:37 2008
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00:31	<Roujin>	anyone still awake here?
00:31	<Roujin>	its 6:30 am here... guess i should go to sleep soon :P
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00:34	<Roujin>	anyways i was trying to get the area terraform working for the scenario editor.. hardest thing was to actually find where the code for that actually is :P
00:36	<Roujin>	found some comment by Darkvater along the lines of... TODO: move this to terraform.gui some time after 0.4.0
00:37	<Roujin>	guess no one picked up that task from him :P
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00:49	<Greysc[a]le>	wrong button
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03:12	<LA[lord]>	hey
03:14	<Gonozal_VIII>	hi
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03:15	<Gonozal_VIII>	more than 99% of the people die 9 month before their birth
03:15	<peter__>	MURDERERS
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03:19	<Gonozal_VIII>	what a coincidental time for that:
03:19	<Gonozal_VIII>	[09:17:40][09:17:40] *** You have been disconnected. Sat Jan 05 09:17:40 2008.
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03:27	<Gonozal_VIII>	it sucks, that all the rail and road sprites have the terrain in them and not only transparency... ok, the game doesn't have to draw them seperately that way but couldn't it combine them to virtual sprites at start and draw them?
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03:30	<LA[lord]>	it could, and I know of one thing that tries to get that effect too..
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03:31	<peter__>	combining sprites at the start isn't going to happen, heh
03:32	<Gonozal_VIII>	what? tram tracks? catenary?
03:32	<peter__>	but drawing multiple sprites could
03:32	<Gonozal_VIII>	i thought the reason to have them that way is to avoid drawing multiple sprites
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03:33	<peter__>	the reason they're that way is that's how CS designed them many years ago
03:34	<Gonozal_VIII>	ah i see...
03:35	<Gonozal_VIII>	there's the same track tile on grass, on snow, desert, every custom ground tile and so on.. that could all be one tile with transparency
03:35	<peter__>	actually the track graphics are slightly different for each
03:35	<peter__>	but that can be handled
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03:40	<Gonozal_VIII>	i say that because i spent lots of hours yesterday and the day before combining my favourite track/road newgrfs with each other and with terrain/water newgrfs
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03:42	<Gonozal_VIII>	lots of select track, copy on empty terrain tile, copy everything back work there
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04:20	<pavel1269>	hi
04:23	<Gonozal_VIII>	hi
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05:33	<Wolf01>	hello
05:33	<Gonozal_VIII>	hi
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05:45	<dih>	good morning ladies
05:45	<Plantain>	Hey all, does anyone know who manages the nightly build servers/wrote the nightly build scripts?
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05:48	<dih>	why?
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05:48	<Plantain>	I'm curious as to how it's done/works
05:49	<@orudge>	TrueBrain would be the best person to speak to
05:49	[~]	orudge bbl
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05:52	<TrueBrain>	someone was interested in the nightly system? :p
05:52	<dih>	whooohay....
05:52	[~]	TrueBrain slaps dih
05:52	<dih>	:-(
05:53	[~]	dih slaps TrueBrain's Brain out
05:53	[~]	hylje dihs dih
05:53	<Gonozal_VIII>	hi truelight
05:53	[~]	TrueBrain picks up his brains and slaps hylje with it
05:53	<Gonozal_VIII>	braaaaaains
05:53	<peter__>	spicy
05:53	<hylje>	that was random
05:53	<hylje>	#openttd street fight
05:53	[~]	Wolf01 slaps TrueBrain around a bit with a large trout
05:53	<dih>	Plantain: your chance...
05:53	<Wolf01>	hello guy
05:53	<TrueBrain>	tick tack
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05:54	<TrueBrain>	hi other guy
05:54	<ben_>	how do i kill exclusive transport rigths on a dedicated server for exisiting rights?
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05:54	<TrueBrain>	with a knife\|?
05:54	<dih>	remove_company x
05:54	<dih>	:-P
05:54	<dekan>	nah, i'm sure there was a way
05:54	<TrueBrain>	a piece of wood! I SAW IT!
05:55	<Gonozal_VIII>	knife is a good way to kill stuff
05:55	<dih>	brb
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05:55	<TrueBrain>	so, who was left in this street fight?
05:56	<SmatZ>	hello
05:56	<SmatZ>	wow, TrueBrain :-)
05:56	<hylje>	:o
05:56	[~]	hylje hides
05:56	<TrueBrain>	good idea ;)
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05:56	<SmatZ>	:-x
05:56	<dih>	aw
05:56	<SmatZ>	did I scare him?
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05:57	<Gonozal_VIII>	yes, all your fault
05:57	<TrueBrain>	oh, and hi SmatZ :)
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05:57	<SmatZ>	:-D
05:57	<Gonozal_VIII>	^^
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05:57	<Plantain>	TrueBrain: hi
05:57	<Plantain>	oh
05:57	<Plantain>	bah
05:57	<dih>	LOL
05:57	<hylje>	slowpoke
05:57	<dekan>	so no-one knows?
05:57	<Plantain>	damn, I just left the room to grab a drink
05:57	<SmatZ>	:-D
05:57	<Gonozal_VIII>	hehehe
05:58	<SmatZ>	@logs
05:58	<SmatZ>	!logs
05:58	<SpComb>	Logs: http://spbot.marttila.de:8120/logs/oftc-ottd (old: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd )
05:58	<Gonozal_VIII>	plantain... /msg truebrain
05:58	<dih>	Plantain: a little hint: type /msg TrueBrain hello
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05:59	<dekan>	openttd forums are down
05:59	<dih>	yes - upgrades
05:59	<Gonozal_VIII>	yay upgrades!
05:59	<dih>	dekan: or as the current page sais: "currently undergoing maintenance"
06:00	<Gonozal_VIII>	got that idea from robots?
06:02	<dekan>	yeh :)
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06:20	<dekan>	and another question, how do i remove a password from a company?
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06:22	<dih>	company_pw *
06:23	<dih>	or click that funny new botton in the password window, and clear the text field and press OK
06:23	<Gonozal_VIII>	yay for funny new buttons
06:23	<dekan>	from someone elses company
06:24	<dekan>	on a dedicated server
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06:25	<dih>	you cannot
06:25	<dekan>	oh?
06:25	<Gonozal_VIII>	load in singleplayer, cheat to company, funny new button :-)
06:25	<dekan>	heh
06:25	<dih>	http://pub.dihedral.de/openttd/wwottdgd/r11339_company_pw_cmd.v2.patch
06:26	<dih>	that will do it
06:26	<dekan>	i can make autoclean_protected lower?
06:26	<dekan>	this is to fix it real time,
06:26	<dekan>	not apply patch :)
06:27	<dekan>	and then it'll remove the password after less time
06:27	<dih>	well - it suffices for a server only patch, so you can next time have less trouble with it
06:27	<dih>	with autoclean_protected ALL company passwords of comapnies inactive for x months will be without a pass
06:28	<dekan>	yeh
06:28	<dekan>	but as a temp fix
06:28	<dekan>	cig time
06:32	<dih>	how many companies?
06:32	<dih>	how many with no players?
06:32	<dih>	how many with password?
06:34	<Gonozal_VIII>	yes
06:35	<Gonozal_VIII>	yes/no answers to non yes/no questions rule :D
06:36	<hylje>	yes
06:37	<dekan>	most with password
06:37	<dekan>	it's desyncing all the time now though
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06:40	<Digitalfox>	The Transport Tycoon Forums are currently undergoing maintenance!! :(
06:41	<hylje>	irc isnt
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06:55	<dih>	dekan: i need to correct something with that patch i just posted
06:55	<dih>	that is not good to use anymore
06:55	<dih>	at least i am not sure
06:56	<dih>	who encrypts the password client or server?
06:56	<dih>	well - if you wanted to use that patch, you would have to specify * (no pw) or the encrypted version
07:00	<dih>	tt-forums back up
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07:02	<dekan>	dih, using that patch .. is that server side only?
07:02	<dih>	read the lines above
07:03	<dih>	yes - server side only
07:03	<dih>	but - i suggest you dont use it
07:03	<dekan>	oh okay
07:03	<dih>	unless you only 'fetch' a password
07:03	<dekan>	i just wanted to fix the real time problem
07:03	<dih>	or set it to nothing
07:03	<dekan>	the server started desyncing all the time, and the players playing most of them left.
07:03	<dekan>	i'm not sure why it started desyncing a lot actually
07:03	<dekan>	it's like suddenly cut off
07:04	<dih>	version?
07:04	<dekan>	and it was being fine for ages then suddenly got moody?
07:04	<dekan>	6.0-beta2
07:04	<Rubidium>	dekan: and what do you define as a desync?
07:04	<dih>	someone prospering industries? grf's?
07:04	<dekan>	prospering?
07:04	<dekan>	no extra grf's
07:04	<dekan>	pretty standard
07:04	<dih>	Rubidium: does it not state 'desync error' :-P
07:05	<dekan>	yeh like dih siad
07:05	<Rubidium>	dih: well... most of the times people tell that the clients 'desync' when the clients are just too slow for the game that is running on the server
07:05	<dekan>	people were fucking with buying exclusive transport rigths a lot
07:05	<dekan>	until it was turned off
07:06	<dekan>	rubidum, that shows as a separte error
07:06	<dekan>	this is true "desync error"
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07:06	<Rubidium>	dekan: I know, but most users don't
07:06	<Rubidium>	dekan: did it start after you disabling exclusive transport rights?
07:06	<dih>	Rubidium: could this be an issue with turning off 'buying exclusive rights' in the middle of the game?
07:06	<dekan>	rubidium, yes, but not immediately after
07:06	<dih>	just like with waggon speed limits?
07:07	<dekan>	oh, hmm?
07:07	<dih>	probably as soon as someone tried to buy some
07:07	<dekan>	oh, it shows on clients straigth away
07:07	<dih>	connected, found they were not on exclusive, and did it again
07:07	<dekan>	the option disappears
07:07	<dekan>	and i tried save restart game from loaded save game
07:08	<dih>	unless someone has a modified client (let's not assume so right now)
07:10	<Gonozal_VIII>	688 * 21 04 48 80 01 94 13 56 69 61 64 75 63 74 2C 20 42 72 69 63 6B 00
07:10	<Gonozal_VIII>	what's wrong with that line?
07:10	<dih>	there is a too bigger space bewteen 21 and 04 :-P
07:10	<Gonozal_VIII>	^^
07:11	<pavel1269>	hehe
07:11	<dih>	i did a bunch of those in a iq test :-P
07:11	<dih>	i always spotted them pretty fast
07:12	<Gonozal_VIII>	wow, you can spot the difference between tab and space and only space :P
07:13	<Gonozal_VIII>	hmm seems like irc converted the tab to spaces... but doesn't matter... what's wrong?
07:13	<Gonozal_VIII>	it doesn't work
07:13	<dih>	well - then that's whats wrong
07:13	<Rubidium>	Gonozal_VIII: what grf version does that GRF have?
07:13	<dih>	to be honest, i have no idea what you are doing there :-P
07:13	<Gonozal_VIII>	6
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07:14	<dih>	ops
07:14	<Rubidium>	then the string is for NO language; that can't be good I guess (but then again I don't know much newgrf)
07:15	<Gonozal_VIII>	doesn't work with 7 either
07:15	<Gonozal_VIII>	also tried 06 instead of 48...
07:15	<Rubidium>	what string do you want to replace? And what NewGRF interpreter are you using?
07:15	<Rubidium>	(i.e. TTDP or OTTD?)
07:16	<Gonozal_VIII>	openttd r11748
07:16	<Gonozal_VIII>	5012 Wooden
07:16	<Gonozal_VIII>	that string
07:17	<Gonozal_VIII>	aaah that's hex
07:17	<Rubidium>	well and the number in the strings in our language files isn't right most of the times either
07:18	<Gonozal_VIII>	that's bad
07:18	<Rubidium>	and when you want to change a bridge's name replacing the direct OTTD string is not the way to go
07:18	<Rubidium>	way too fragile
07:20	<Gonozal_VIII>	how else?
07:20	<Rubidium>	well... using the bridge stuff for replacing strings
07:21	<Gonozal_VIII>	bridge stuff for replacing strings?
07:22	<Rubidium>	they mention it in the Action4 specs, so if it doesn't exist then it's stupid
07:22	<Rubidium>	just decompile someone else's bridge newgrf and take a look at that
07:23	<Gonozal_VIII>	that's the brick viaduct grf... but doesn't work
07:23	<Gonozal_VIII>	somehow language was set to dutch too :S
07:24	<Gonozal_VIII>	at least that's what grf2html said it was
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07:25	<Rubidium>	but the brick viaduct grf doesn't replace the string (at least not in OTTD)
07:25	<Gonozal_VIII>	but it should do that
07:28	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	because it does it wrong?
07:31	<peter__>	Rubidium, correct, bridge strings are stupid
07:31	<peter__>	basically the original name has to be replaced, which our stuff doesn't support
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07:34	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	anyway, it shouldn't use feature 48, that is not supported afaik
07:38	<UnderBuilder>	for a moment I had a great idea for a eyecandy aircraft for openttd/ttdpatch
07:39	<dih>	and that was
07:39	<UnderBuilder>	the idea was to recreate the 'zig' units from Zero Wing
07:39	<UnderBuilder>	take off every 'zig'!!
07:39	<Gonozal_VIII>	move zig!
07:40	<dih>	witzig
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07:43	<Gonozal_VIII>	independance day ufo hovering around instead of the ufo that lands on track and instead of the bomber it uses the energy beam thingy
07:44	<UnderBuilder>	for great justice!
07:44	<Gonozal_VIII>	aybabtu
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07:46	<Gonozal_VIII>	you know the zero wing rhapsody flash?
07:49	<Gonozal_VIII>	link: www.amonkeywithakeyboardcouldgoogleit.com
07:50	<UnderBuilder>	I saw it on youtube
07:51	<UnderBuilder>	it was nice
07:53	<LordAzamath>	hey, ou guys having fun as usual?
07:55	<Gonozal_VIII>	no
07:55	<Gonozal_VIII>	all new and unused fun
07:56	<LordAzamath>	naah that su*ks
07:57	<LordAzamath>	hohohoo,I exceeded 500 posts today, congratulate me :D
07:57	[~]	Gonozal_VIII congratulates you
07:58	<LordAzamath>	:)
08:01	[~]	UnderBuilder conglaturates you
08:01	<UnderBuilder>	lol
08:02	<UnderBuilder>	which is the opposite to 'congratulates'
08:02	<UnderBuilder>	:P
08:02	<Gonozal_VIII>	progratulates?
08:04	<Gonozal_VIII>	hmmm congratulating is bad and progratulating is good
08:10	[~]	Gonozal_VIII progratulates la
08:13	[~]	LordAzamath progratulates him
08:17	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	...
08:17	<peter__>	hmm
08:17	<peter__>	101% of an estimated 44,000k litres transported
08:17	<peter__>	well, i suppose it is only an estimate
08:18	<dih>	i think with ecs (though it does not display that number) industries run 'empty' and can close down in that case
08:18	<dih>	but i am not 101% sure
08:19	<Sidious-Sither>	how can you even transport that much i often only get mine up to 70%
08:19	<LordAzamath>	new trains each year :D
08:20	<Gonozal_VIII>	that's a different percentage
08:20	<peter__>	yeah
08:20	<peter__>	83% transported
08:20	<Sidious-Sither>	ahh okay :)
08:20	<Gonozal_VIII>	and a statue gives you additional 10% for that ;-)
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08:21	<dih>	that is the loca station rating, not the % transported
08:21	<dih>	statue give you extra 10% on the local station rating for the cargo there
08:21	<Gonozal_VIII>	which is about the same most of the time
08:21	<dih>	...
08:22	<LordAzamath>	hmm..I just happened to see an interesting blog post
08:22	<Gonozal_VIII>	if you have enough vehicles
08:22	<LordAzamath>	at #coop blog :)
08:22	<dih>	which one?
08:23	<LordAzamath>	that one which says happy christmas and merry new year
08:23	<dih>	:-P
08:23	<dih>	gotta love Osai for those thingws
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08:24	<LordAzamath>	actually it's normal headline but the inside story is much more interesting
08:25	<LordAzamath>	particulary stuff which belongs to todo
08:26	<dih>	:-P
08:26	<dih>	i never knew about the wwottdgd anouncement made there until i read it :-P
08:26	<LordAzamath>	hehe
08:27	<LordAzamath>	gotta love Osai for those things
08:27	<Gonozal_VIII>	you forgot the w
08:27	<LordAzamath>	yes :D
08:27	<LordAzamath>	noticed it now
08:27	<LordAzamath>	thingws*
08:27	<Gonozal_VIII>	:-)
08:27	<dih>	you meanies :-P
08:29	<LordAzamath>	But I won't ask more because the more I ask the less I gotta know aboutit
08:29	<LordAzamath>	I just hope the end of January is correct :)
08:29	<dih>	me too :-D
08:30	[~]	LordAzamath wonders that has dih already forgotten some things or not
08:30	<LordAzamath>	oops, I said I won't ask :P
08:31	<dih>	i have not forgotten anything
08:31	<dih>	just so far we have not managed to discuss things
08:31	<LordAzamath>	ok :)
08:32	<roboboy>	gnight soon
08:32	<LordAzamath>	gnight
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08:33	<LordAzamath>	hmm, Iexplore suxxx
08:34	<LordAzamath>	but can't use ff
08:34	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	i use neither...
08:35	<dih>	hehe
08:35	<dih>	konqueror?
08:35	<dih>	hehe
08:35	<LordAzamath>	Opera?
08:35	<dih>	yuck
08:35	<LordAzamath>	yes :P
08:35	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	Konqueror, yes ;)
08:36	<LordAzamath>	First there was Navigator..Then Explorer. And in the end (K)Conqueror
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08:37	<LordAzamath>	or exact quote from wikipedia
08:37	<LordAzamath>	"The name "Konqueror" is a play on the names of other browsers: first comes the Navigator, then Explorer, and then the Konqueror. It also follows the KDE naming convention: the names of most KDE programs begin with the letter K."
08:38	<dih>	Krap
08:38	<dih>	:-P
08:39	<dekan>	opera is cool!
08:39	<LordAzamath>	Kopera
08:39	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	but opera does not fit into the naming scheme...
08:40	<LordAzamath>	and isn't a kde program
08:40	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	i meant the other naming scheme ;)
08:40	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	the one for browsers
08:40	<LordAzamath>	:D
08:40	<dih>	i new someone called kate write :-D
08:41	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	Knew!!
08:41	<dih>	it was not a kde knew :-P
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08:41	<dih>	hello glx
08:41	<LordAzamath>	I would use aKregator for news though
08:41	<dih>	glx: was it you who once wrote something like tunnels below water level?
08:42	<+glx>	no
08:42	<+glx>	it was boekabart IIRC
08:42	<LordAzamath>	I saw a suggestion by WallyWeb today at ttdpatch suggestions
08:42	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	dih: boekabard messed with water
08:42	<dih>	in what way?
08:43	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	raise water level by 2, afaik
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08:44	<LordAzamath>	but what if the water flows into the hole? if you dig two levelis into the water
08:44	<UnderBuilder>	why in 0.6.0b2 I saw everytime banks outside cities?
08:44	<LordAzamath>	because it was a bug
08:44	<LordAzamath>	now fixed
08:44	<LordAzamath>	in nightlys
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08:44	<Gonozal_VIII>	[14:44:13][14:44:13] LordAzamath: but what if the water flows into the hole? if you dig two levelis into the water <-- it floods
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08:45	<LordAzamath>	on other words terraforms again
08:45	<Gonozal_VIII>	but it doesn't flood through tunnels... i tested that^^ tunnel is destroyed but water doesn't reach the other side
08:45	<LordAzamath>	but it needs graphics then
08:45	<Gonozal_VIII>	no
08:45	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	ni, it just floods
08:45	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	*no
08:45	<Gonozal_VIII>	doesn't terraform
08:45	<Gonozal_VIII>	you get deeper water there
08:45	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	you have deep water then
08:45	<LordAzamath>	that's weird
08:46	<Gonozal_VIII>	why?
08:46	<LordAzamath>	a hole in water
08:46	<Gonozal_VIII>	so?^^ rl oceans are flat?
08:46	<LordAzamath>	like a whirlpool
08:46	<LordAzamath>	this is too sharp I guess
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08:46	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	LordAzamath: ever seen mountain lakes?
08:46	<LordAzamath>	gonozal, in ttd they are
08:47	<LordAzamath>	we don't have mountains in Estonia so no mountain lakes either
08:47	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	they are not flat under the surface, they are extremely deep, the mountain goes on down beneath them
08:47	<LordAzamath>	yes but surface is flat
08:47	<Gonozal_VIII>	surface is flat with that patch too
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08:48	<Gonozal_VIII>	you can't see that the water is deeper but it is
08:48	<LordAzamath>	then it terraforms to one equal level
08:48	<dih>	so what is 'wrong' with that patch?
08:48	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	surface is flat, of course
08:48	<Gonozal_VIII>	no it doesn't terraform to one equal level
08:48	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	but when you enable transparency, you see the sea ground
08:48	<LordAzamath>	aarhghh I misunderstood
08:48	<Gonozal_VIII>	you can raise it and it's still water
08:49	<LordAzamath>	kinda Kreepy anyways,
08:49	<dih>	what was wront with that patch
08:49	<Gonozal_VIII>	why?^^
08:49	<dih>	or let me rephrase that
08:50	<dih>	what was the reason for it being 'not of interest' to the devs?
08:50	<Gonozal_VIII>	trains on bridge heads or foundations at the coast crashed
08:50	<LordAzamath>	but that could be fixed
08:51	<LordAzamath>	wouldn't they
08:51	<LordAzamath>	single-plural-single-plural hmmm
08:52	<LordAzamath>	brb
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09:00	<LordAzamath>	I'm almost back now
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09:24	<LordAzamath>	and now, I'm completely back :)
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09:29	<LordAzamath>	is there anywhere an online IRC client so I mustn't install anything here? If I wanted to go to some other IRC channel that this (currently on tt-forums chatroom)
09:30	<Gonozal_VIII>	lots of them
09:30	<LordAzamath>	oh thanks for information
09:30	<Gonozal_VIII>	:-)
09:30	<LordAzamath>	that was really useful
09:30	<Gonozal_VIII>	www.gamesurge.net\chat
09:30	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	there are dozens of java (applet) clients
09:31	<Gonozal_VIII>	not /
09:31	<Gonozal_VIII>	not \
09:31	<Gonozal_VIII>	youknowwhatimean
09:31	<LordAzamath>	yesido
09:31	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	noidont
09:32	<Gonozal_VIII>	connects to gamesurge by default but you can change server with /server
09:32	<LordAzamath>	butthatsbecauseyourefool
09:34	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	onlyafoolwouldhope
09:35	<LordAzamath>	andyoudo
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09:35	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	andyoudonotrecogniselotrreferences
09:35	<Gonozal_VIII>	stop talking in german, this is an english channel :P
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09:37	<LordAzamath>	sorryiwasobsessedwithlotraboutfiveearsago.nowionlyloveit
09:40	<LordAzamath>	command to change nick is /nick newname isn't it...
09:40	<+glx>	it is
09:40	<LordAzamath>	then why doesn't it work there...
09:42	<DeGhost>	it does
09:43	<DeGhost>	ur just crazy
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09:43	<Gonozal_VIII>	in the gamesurge chat? it has a seperate nick change thingy
09:44	<LordAzamath>	I noticed
09:44	<LordAzamath>	ok..checked out it says all things I try are already in use
09:44	<Gonozal_VIII>	add _dsafsdjfagf
09:44	<LordAzamath>	LordAzamath, LA[lord]...
09:45	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	SuesseMaus86 ;)
09:45	<LordAzamath>	hahha now worked
09:45	<Gonozal_VIII>	^^
09:45	<LordAzamath>	I changed it to LordAzamath[LA]
09:45	<LordAzamath>	:P
09:47	<LordAzamath>	how come LA[lord] is connected here?
09:47	[~]	LordAzamath pings ghot
09:47	<LordAzamath>	pretty good ping
09:47	<LordAzamath>	kick him
09:48	<LordAzamath>	please
09:48	<Gonozal_VIII>	[15:47:54][15:47:54] *** LA[lord] is ~LAlord]@217-159-161-134-dsl.trt.estpak.ee (Johannes Madis Aasmäe)
09:48	<LordAzamath>	yes, but I aint in with that nick
09:48	<Gonozal_VIII>	then it will timeout...
09:48	<+glx>	!op
09:48	<+glx>	@op
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09:48	<LordAzamath>	but ping is good
09:48	<Gonozal_VIII>	kicking doesn't help
09:49	<LordAzamath>	why?
09:49	\|-\|	LA[lord] kicked [#openttd] glx [LA[lord]]
09:49	<LordAzamath>	helped
09:49	<Gonozal_VIII>	only kicks from the channel not the network
09:49	<dih>	what's wrong with a little ghost?
09:49	<@glx>	you can use /nickserv ghost
09:50	<@glx>	if you want to "recover" your nick
09:50	<@glx>	@deop
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09:50	<dih>	or in case your irc client does not have /nickserv use /msg nickserv ghost :-)
09:50	<Gonozal_VIII>	it's /nickserv regain nick password
09:50	<LordAzamath>	I don't have registered nick
09:50	<LordAzamath>	maybe I should
09:51	<LordAzamath>	do it
09:51	<+glx>	register and group them
09:51	<dih>	Gonozal_VIII /nickserv is usualy an alias to /msg nickserv, not all clients have that alias
09:51	<Gonozal_VIII>	ok... but it's regain not ghost :-)
09:51	<+glx>	and regain is the same as ghostt
09:51	<dih>	:-P
09:51	<dih>	as ghostt?
09:52	<+glx>	-t
09:52	<dih>	ghostt-t
09:52	<Gonozal_VIII>	-t-t
09:52	<LordAzamath>	ok, I'll leave chatroom and try to come in in gamesurge
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09:52	<Gonozal_VIII>	we won't see him ever again
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09:53	<Gonozal_VIII>	didn't work
09:53	<Gonozal_VIII>	you're not here
09:53	<LordAzamath[LA]>	how come?
09:53	\|-\|	LordAzamath[LA] changed nick to LA[AL]
09:53	<Gonozal_VIII>	^^
09:53	<LA[AL]>	:P
09:55	<Gonozal_VIII>	how is it to have a name with aa?
09:55	<Gonozal_VIII>	always first in every list
09:56	\|-\|	LA[AL] changed nick to AAzamath
09:56	<AAzamath>	:P
09:56	<Gonozal_VIII>	^^
09:56	\|-\|	Wolf01 changed nick to Wolf01\|AWAY
09:57	<AAzamath>	and a1270 is still ahead
09:57	<Gonozal_VIII>	try 007Azamath ^^
09:57	<AAzamath>	and btw gonozal my family name is Aasmäe..So in school list I AM the first
09:58	<Gonozal_VIII>	that's what i was talking about
09:58	<AAzamath>	not very comfortable, they ask me the first
09:58	<AAzamath>	in lessons
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09:59	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	my biology teacher had a name starting with W, he complained that he was always the last to be asked, so instead he always started from the end of the list :p
09:59	<LA[stop_nick-spam]>	haha
09:59	<LA[stop_nick-spam]>	I think I would like that kind of teacher :D
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10:01	<Gonozal_VIII>	some teachers try to choose random... they tend to forget the first and last
10:02	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	yeah, what humans call "random" is not really random...
10:02	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	(granted, nor is what computers call "random" :p)
10:02	<+glx>	but computer random is more random than human random
10:05	<a1270>	most ircds must have a an alpha char before the numeric char.
10:05	[~]	a1270 is a1270 because of that
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10:07	<LA[stop_nick-spam]>	hmm...dihedral seems to be gone...we can speak of what is in our mind about wwott*gd again...(I have never heard of IRClogs..Ever :P )
10:07	<Gonozal_VIII>	<hehe, what logs?>
10:07	<LA[stop_nick-spam]>	@logs
10:07	<Gonozal_VIII>	hmm
10:08	<Gonozal_VIII>	doesn't work
10:08	<SpComb>	!logs
10:08	<LA[stop_nick-spam]>	logs resemble wood
10:08	<LA[stop_nick-spam]>	already cyr
10:08	<LA[stop_nick-spam]>	cut*
10:08	<Gonozal_VIII>	i thought there was something about <text> not being logged
10:09	<LA[stop_nick-spam]>	but it seems bot is down atm so no logs?
10:09	<Gonozal_VIII>	http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd <-- logs
10:10	<LA[stop_nick-spam]>	<what about this?>
10:10	<Gonozal_VIII>	and it's not down, you have to use !logs, not @logs
10:10	<Gonozal_VIII>	doesn't work
10:10	<LA[stop_nick-spam]>	but spcomb tried to use !logs
10:11	<Gonozal_VIII>	spcomb is the bot^^
10:11	<LA[stop_nick-spam]>	and btw <> is recorded
10:11	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	spcomb IS !logs ;)
10:11	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	!logs
10:11	<SpComb>	Logs: http://spbot.marttila.de:8120/logs/oftc-ottd (old: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd )
10:11	<LA[stop_nick-spam]>	and a person
10:11	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	see?
10:11	<LA[stop_nick-spam]>	he is a person too
10:11	<Gonozal_VIII>	yesyes.. bot bot too
10:11	<Gonozal_VIII>	but^^
10:11	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	no, he's not
10:11	<Gonozal_VIII>	most bots don't react to selfmsgs, could create a loop :-)
10:12	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	why would a human randomly shout "!logs" into a channel? :p
10:12	<LA[stop_nick-spam]>	http://www.tt-forums.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=1750
10:12	<SpComb>	Eddi\|zuHause2: they do it all the time
10:13	<Gonozal_VIII>	it's a very clever bot with delayed replies and it reacts to some inputs
10:13	<LA[stop_nick-spam]>	!spcomb
10:13	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	!cleanupmyroom
10:14	<SpComb>	righto
10:14	<LA[stop_nick-spam]>	!stopEddiFromEvilPlans
10:15	<SpComb>	bot? I'm much more than a bot, just ask SpBot
10:15	<Gonozal_VIII>	see, delayed reply
10:15	<Gonozal_VIII>	:-)
10:16	<LA[stop_nick-spam]>	SpBot, who is SpComb
10:16	<Gonozal_VIII>	you forgot the !
10:17	<LA[stop_nick-spam]>	It's advanced bot
10:17	<LA[stop_nick-spam]>	doesn't need !
10:17	<LA[stop_nick-spam]>	i is much better
10:17	<LA[stop_nick-spam]>	iSpBot whois SpComb
10:17	<Gonozal_VIII>	i is bestest!
10:17	<LA[stop_nick-spam]>	i!i!i!
10:18	<Gonozal_VIII>	me are good :-)
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10:18	<Gonozal_VIII>	bjarni!
10:18	<LA[stop_nick-spam]>	sir Bjarni arrived
10:18	<Gonozal_VIII>	has been gone for like forever
10:18	<@Bjarni>	greetings people
10:19	<Gonozal_VIII>	greetings stranger
10:19	<Gonozal_VIII>	what brings you here?
10:19	<@Bjarni>	spammers are really reaching for odd stuff these days. Today my spam filter missed a mail promising me "a mountain sized cock"
10:20	<@Bjarni>	like I want something that big.... I wouldn't even be able to walk though doors
10:20	<pavel1269>	:o)
10:20	<mcbane>	use it as cave ^^
10:20	<@Bjarni>	<Gonozal_VIII> what brings you here? <-- the internet
10:20	<Gonozal_VIII>	sure about that? ever seen any mountains around?
10:20	<@Bjarni>	err
10:20	<@Bjarni>	I have seen mountains
10:20	<LA[stop_nick-spam]>	Dzhomolungma
10:20	<@Bjarni>	but not around here
10:20	<@Bjarni>	I have actually seen Gonozal_VIIIland
10:21	<Gonozal_VIII>	:O
10:21	<LA[stop_nick-spam]>	Ili!Ili!
10:21	<Gonozal_VIII>	ni! ni!
10:21	<LA[stop_nick-spam]>	why n?
10:21	<LA[stop_nick-spam]>	I had ILI!ILI!
10:21	<@Bjarni>	<Gonozal_VIII> :O <-- why are you so surprised?
10:22	<@Bjarni>	besides it was just a huge rock
10:22	<Gonozal_VIII>	why would you come here?
10:22	<@Bjarni>	passing though
10:22	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	you mean huge cock like this? http://i11.tinypic.com/6f5v6lh.jpg
10:22	<LA[stop_nick-spam]>	barn why do you put your email everywhere?
10:23	<@Bjarni>	Eddi\|zuHause2: I don't think so.... but then again ordering pills to do that... you never know what you are going to get
10:23	<@Bjarni>	<Gonozal_VIII> why would you come here? <-- basically I was invited to Malta and I looked out of the window in the plane
10:23	[~]	LA[stop_nick-spam] succeeded having two typos in one word
10:23	<Gonozal_VIII>	ah...
10:24	<@Bjarni>	I ended up waiting for the plane to take me home.... way too hot >_<
10:24	<Gonozal_VIII>	barn is a unit to measure an area
10:25	<@Bjarni>	that was the first and presumably the last time I went to Malta... the locals just talked about how it would be 10°C hotter a month later... I would die if I tried that
10:25	<@Bjarni>	<Gonozal_VIII> barn is a unit to measure an area <-- barn is a building used on farms
10:25	<@Bjarni>	err
10:25	<Gonozal_VIII>	that's what THEY want you to think!
10:25	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	i only know bars...
10:25	<@Bjarni>	you mean that barn is a severe typoed "Bjarni"?
10:25	<LA[stop_nick-spam]>	hmm...and I'm just thinking of anothr Mediterrainian island which had 40cm snow :roll:
10:26	<LA[stop_nick-spam]>	yes
10:26	<@Bjarni>	technically that was 3 typos
10:26	<LA[stop_nick-spam]>	B(j)arn(i)
10:26	<Gonozal_VIII>	a barn is 10^-28 m^2
10:27	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	you can now cut off with the typos ;)
10:27	<@Bjarni>	you forgot upper case as well
10:27	<LA[stop_nick-spam]>