TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#openttd:2007:06:13

---	Log	opened Wed Jun 13 00:00:09 2007
00:08	<hylje>	yay!
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00:08	<Touqen>	w00t
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00:32	<mikk36>	hey
00:32	<mikk36>	anyone here good with odbc / paradox ?
00:36	<hylje>	http://bash.org/?772595
00:36	<hylje>	no
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01:31	<Phazorx>	hmm... got a save crashing on same date every time 10104 + hash patch
01:31	<Phazorx>	peter1138 are you awake alreadY?
01:32	<@peter1138>	hash patch?
01:32	<@peter1138>	hmm
01:32	<@peter1138>	savegame?
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01:41	<Phazorx>	peter1138, it is train collision related must say
01:42	<Phazorx>	shall i dcc or post somewhere?
01:42	<@peter1138>	post
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01:43	<CIA-1>	OpenTTD: peter1138 * r10128 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Fix (r4811): missing printf parameters in newgrf debug message
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01:43	<Phazorx>	http://openttdcoop.ppcis.org/blog/files/phazorx/crashing on 29th Jul 2204.sav
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01:44	<@peter1138>	spaces in url :o
01:44	<Sionide>	%20
01:44	<Phazorx>	WP :)
01:44	<Phazorx>	work in opera
01:45	<@peter1138>	corr, blocked
01:47	<Phazorx>	?
01:47	<@peter1138>	traffic jams
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01:55	<@peter1138>	ok, got it
01:56	<Phazorx>	jams are massive, sorry about that
01:56	<Phazorx>	i left it running while i was asleep :)
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02:14	<CIA-1>	OpenTTD: peter1138 * r10129 /trunk/src/vehicle.cpp: -Fix (r10111): Test for x == INVALID_COORD instead of v->tile == INVALID_TILE to determine if a vehicle should be removed from the has.
02:15	<@peter1138>	Phazorx: there you go
02:15	<Phazorx>	peter, i'm testing unpatched one
02:15	<hylje>	if a vehicle should be removed from the has?
02:15	<Phazorx>	thre is one thing i do not like
02:15	<@peter1138>	+h
02:15	<Phazorx>	unpatched jams less
02:15	<Phazorx>	as in it did not
02:15	<hylje>	:o
02:16	<hylje>	what
02:16	<Phazorx>	hylje: i'm playing with PS44
02:16	<Phazorx>	as a test kase for SML
02:16	<Phazorx>	i left it running for a while
02:16	<Phazorx>	it jammed
02:16	<Phazorx>	with 104M
02:17	<Phazorx>	now running with 104
02:17	<Phazorx>	it doesnt :/
02:17	<@peter1138>	hmm
02:17	<Phazorx>	and i see some trains making wrong turns :(
02:17	<hylje>	might have some funnyness about
02:17	<Phazorx>	peter is there some "look ahead" limit now?
02:17	<Phazorx>	probably not ur patch but yapf itself
02:18	<Phazorx>	trains after waiting for a while and declared lost - choose wrong path
02:18	<Phazorx>	on that safe some trains destined for north drop turn around south
02:18	<Phazorx>	safe = save
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02:29	<TheJosh>	openttd is failing to link. http://paste.openttd.org/104
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02:34	<TheJosh>	nevermind, has been fixed
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02:59	<CIA-1>	OpenTTD: maedhros * r10130 /trunk/src/newgrf_text.cpp: -Fix (r4493): SetCurrentGrfLangID returned the wrong language ids for most languages.
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03:04	<Nickman>	hi all
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04:12	<CIA-1>	OpenTTD: rubidium * r10131 /trunk/src/ship_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS#810]: when removing a dock, a ship will always try to reach the old location of the dock even when it cannot anymore because it the old location of the dock is now land instead of water.
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05:32	<CIA-1>	OpenTTD: truelight * r10132 /trunk/ (18 files in 6 dirs):
05:32	<CIA-1>	OpenTTD: -Codechange: split out the last direct video-buffer read access to the blitter-layer
05:32	<CIA-1>	OpenTTD: -Add: added a new renderer and blitter to make room for some optimized bpp
05:32	<CIA-1>	OpenTTD: -Fix: fill the alpha channel in the grf-spriteloader
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05:38	<dihedral>	hello :-)
05:38	<TrueBrain>	hi
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05:39	<Noldo>	TrueBrain: is it faster now? ;)
05:39	<dihedral>	TrueBrain: you are just the person i need for a quick q
05:39	<TrueBrain>	nope, this new blitter is VERY slow :(
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05:39	<kaan>	hello
05:39	<TrueBrain>	hi kaan
05:40	<dihedral>	is it possible to make a tcp connection to a game and run an rcon command without being an actual 'client' to the game
05:40	<TrueBrain>	currently: no
05:40	<dihedral>	or would it be possible to tweack the server to also accept udp rcon packets?
05:40	<dihedral>	*tweak
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05:41	<TrueBrain>	the latter might be unsafe
05:41	<Phazorx>	peter1138: jams were my bad
05:41	<TrueBrain>	but someone adding a tcp rcon socket sounds like a good diea
05:41	<@peter1138>	Phazorx: oh?
05:41	<Phazorx>	should not have nessed with yapf
05:41	<@peter1138>	Phazorx: you mean i wasted my morning chasing it up?
05:41	<@peter1138>	i should bill you ;)
05:41	<Phazorx>	peter jams yes
05:41	<Phazorx>	bug no
05:41	<Phazorx>	bug was real
05:42	<dihedral>	TrueBrain: like on another port?
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05:42	<@peter1138>	the crashing bug, yes, but i fixed that
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05:42	<Phazorx>	peter1138: i could have been quiet and u'd be chasing even longer
05:42	<@peter1138>	:D
05:42	<Phazorx>	you should respect my time as well since it is 5 aM here :)
05:42	<@peter1138>	lol
05:42	<TrueBrain>	dihedral: most likely works best, or add stuff in the current TCP protocol to accept telnet :p
05:42	<Phazorx>	anyway
05:42	<@peter1138>	up late or early?
05:42	<TrueBrain>	I do suggest simple telnet would work
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05:43	<Phazorx>	reason for detours were bumped station penalty
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05:43	<dihedral>	or another port so it can be firewalled :-P
05:43	<Phazorx>	and since concept involves stations on ML used for lanechanging - it forced some of them to take off right path :(
05:44	<@peter1138>	ah
05:44	<Phazorx>	i forgot i put -15000 for stations instead of 3000
05:44	<@peter1138>	-15000 ?
05:44	<@peter1138>	minus ?
05:44	<Phazorx>	+15000
05:44	<@peter1138>	oh
05:44	<@peter1138>	ok
05:44	<Phazorx>	penalty kinda implies negatove score
05:47	<Rubidium>	dihedral: I've not been able to reproduce your bug yet; will look at it again later today
05:47	<dihedral>	are you using the bug.sav i made? from 1946-11-02
05:47	<dihedral>	crash is in 1946-12-18
05:48	<Phazorx>	any relevance to my crash earlier which peter fixed?
05:48	<Rubidium>	dihedral: it happily goes to 1947
05:48	<dihedral>	what did peter fix?
05:48	<Rubidium>	dihedral: nothing with any influence to your bug
05:48	<dihedral>	Rubidium: if you want access to my server dont hesitate to ask
05:48	<Phazorx>	peter1138 * r10129 /trunk/src/vehicle.cpp: -Fix (r10111): Test for x == INVALID_COORD instead of v->tile == INVALID_TILE to determine if a vehicle should be removed from the has.
05:49	<Phazorx>	+h
05:49	<dihedral>	the game has not vehicles
05:49	<dihedral>	the game has no players
05:49	<dihedral>	no clients
05:49	<dihedral>	just an empty game
05:49	<Phazorx>	it died from boredom then?
05:49	<dihedral>	brings a Floating point exception
05:49	<dihedral>	and i just tried it again!
05:50	<Phazorx>	decided to find out if division by zero is really posiible may be?
05:50	<dihedral>	Rubidium: do i need to compile with some special option to get more output?
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05:52	<Rubidium>	dihedral: well, a debug compile ran in gdb would be useful, cause then it tells where it crashed
05:52	<dihedral>	gdb?
05:53	<Noldo>	woundn't core be enough?
05:53	[~]	dihedral is compiling with --dedicated --debug
05:54	<Noldo>	does --debug imply -g ?
05:55	<Rubidium>	Noldo: it should
05:55	<TrueBrain>	--enable-debug, I hope :)
05:55	<Rubidium>	TrueBrain: no
05:55	<Rubidium>	it's 0.5
05:55	<TrueBrain>	auch
05:56	<TrueBrain>	:)
06:00	<dihedral>	tell me i have to set debug_level
06:00	<Rubidium>	no, you just compiled a binary with debug information, so we can actually see where it crashed.
06:00	<dihedral>	i cannot
06:00	<CIA-1>	OpenTTD: celestar * r10133 /branches/gamebalance/ (99 files in 10 dirs): [gamebalance] -Sync: r9620:9670 from trunk
06:00	<Rubidium>	I'd suggest to first run it and check whether the crash still occurs
06:01	<dihedral>	it does
06:01	<dihedral>	same date
06:01	<dihedral>	every time
06:01	<Rubidium>	even with the new binary?
06:01	<dihedral>	yes
06:01	<Rubidium>	ok, try gdb ./openttd
06:02	<Rubidium>	(hopefully starts gdb ;))
06:02	<dihedral>	i called it openttd_debug - just so i dont make a mistake :-P
06:02	<dihedral>	ok
06:02	<Rubidium>	doesn't matter, gdb ./openttd_debug in that case ;)
06:02	<dihedral>	now what
06:02	<dihedral>	yeah - i know that :-)
06:03	<Rubidium>	type "run " with the parameters you normally give when you start a dedicated server with that crashing savegame
06:03	<Rubidium>	something like "run -D -g save/crash.sav" or so
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06:03	<dihedral>	i never used -g only the command load but that should not make a difference
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06:06	<dihedral>	nice
06:06	<Rubidium>	it did crash?
06:06	<dihedral>	0x080f86e6 in SndPlayScreenCoordFx (sound=SND_39_HEAVY_WIND, x=0, y=1024)
06:06	<dihedral>	at sound.c:209
06:06	<dihedral>	209 sound.c: No such file or directory.
06:06	<dihedral>	in sound.c
06:07	<dihedral>	sure did
06:08	<dihedral>	is that helpful?
06:09	<Rubidium>	can you post the result of a bt on paste.openttd.org?
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06:09	<@peter1138>	heh
06:09	<@peter1138>	x = 0 == division by zero ;(
06:09	<@peter1138>	or something
06:10	<@peter1138>	ah yes
06:10	<@peter1138>	if vp->virtual_width is too low
06:10	<@peter1138>	left / (vp->virtual_width / ((PANNING_LEVELS << 1) + 1))
06:10	<raaq>	hi, how do you disable breakdowns in openttd.cfg?
06:10	<@peter1138>	== boom
06:10	<dihedral>	just the lines after it quit right?
06:10	<@peter1138>	raaq: by changing the difficulty setting
06:10	<@peter1138>	i.e. a long line of numbers. good luck :p
06:11	<Rubidium>	ooh, dihedral guess you've got resolution at 0,0 right?
06:12	<dihedral>	sure have
06:12	<raaq>	hmm
06:12	<Nickman>	who is working on the NoAI branch?
06:12	<dihedral>	oh - wait - let me check
06:12	<raaq>	is that in openttd.cfg?
06:12	<dihedral>	no 1,1
06:12	<@peter1138>	that's still do it
06:12	<Rubidium>	hmm, 0,0 crashes instantaniously
06:12	<@peter1138>	panning_levels is 16
06:12	<dihedral>	you want my config
06:13	<@peter1138>	x / 1 / (16 << 1 + 1)
06:13	<@peter1138>	er
06:13	<@peter1138>	x / (1 / (16 << 1 + 1))
06:13	<raaq>	aah nvm
06:13	<@peter1138>	= x / (1 / 33) = x / 0
06:13	<raaq>	http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Diff_custom ;>
06:13	<@peter1138>	that one
06:14	<dihedral>	http://pub.dihedral.de/openttd/fp1.cfg
06:15	<Rubidium>	ok, so the cause of the bug has been determined. Will look at it later today (if nobody else already did)
06:15	<ln->	bitshifting!
06:15	[~]	Rubidium is gone for a while ;)
06:16	<dihedral>	thanks Rubidium
06:17	<CIA-1>	OpenTTD: celestar * r10134 /branches/gamebalance/ (115 files in 15 dirs): [gamebalance] -Sync: r9670:9700 from trunk
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06:39	<TrueBrain>	http://devs.openttd.org/~truelight/art19.png
06:39	<TrueBrain>	doesn't that just make you happy?
06:42	<Nickman>	it does ;)
06:43	<Nickman>	what's it for TrueBrain ?
06:43	<TrueBrain>	to make you happy
06:45	<CIA-1>	OpenTTD: celestar * r10135 /branches/gamebalance/ (180 files in 13 dirs): [gamebalance] -Sync: r9700:9900 from trunk
06:49	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	evil smilie faces?
06:50	<TrueBrain>	how are they evil?
06:50	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	red = evil
06:50	<TrueBrain>	depend on your definition
06:50	<TrueBrain>	but okay
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06:57	<Nickman>	celestar is busy it seems ;)
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06:59	<dihedral>	hi
07:01	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	he's got >200 revisions left :)
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07:06	<CIA-1>	OpenTTD: celestar * r10136 /branches/gamebalance/ (190 files in 17 dirs): [gamebalance] -Sync: r9900:10100 from trunk
07:07	<Nickman>	what did you say? :D
07:16	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	i said he has 36 revisions left :p
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07:24	<Nickman>	haha :D
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07:32	<Thomas[NL]>	How do you filter the new features from the svn log?
07:33	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	svn log \| grep -i feature
07:33	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	add -C2 or something
07:35	<Thomas[NL]>	thank you
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07:55	<redmonkey>	i've just compiled 0.5.2 on my linux. but what does this mean?:
07:55	<redmonkey>	yapf/blob.hpp:238: warning: assuming signed overflow does not occur when assuming that (X - c) >= X is always true
07:56	<redmonkey>	yapf/blob.hpp: In function ‘void EngList_Destroy(EngineID**)’:
07:56	<redmonkey>	yapf/blob.hpp:238: warning: assuming signed overflow does not occur when assuming that (X - c) >= X is always true
07:57	<redmonkey>	do i have to worry?
08:04	<Nickman>	if it compiled succesfully, don't worry ;)
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08:04	<redmonkey>	yes, compiled successfully
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08:17	<TrueBrain>	http://devs.openttd.org/~truelight/art21.png
08:17	<TrueBrain>	cool, not?
08:18	<hylje>	yes
08:19	<hylje>	is that some title screen
08:20	<dihedral>	sound.c line 135 static void StartSound(uint sound, int panning, uint volume)
08:21	<dihedral>	line 195 static void SndPlayScreenCoordFx(SoundFx sound, int x, int y)
08:21	<dihedral>	sound gets sent to StartSound given as first argument
08:21	<dihedral>	why then is it uint in StartSound and SoundFx in SndPlayScreenCoordFx ?
08:21	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	<Nickman> if it compiled succesfully, don't worry ;) <- "a warning is something you can safely ignore" :p
08:22	<dihedral>	just being curious... btw - it's from 0.5.2 :-P
08:27	<Nickman>	TrueBrain: ghost palins!
08:28	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	it's "planes"
08:28	<Nickman>	Eddi\|zuHause3: when you arn't the developer, you don't have to worry much about warnings ;), but it's much better te fix them in the code
08:28	<Nickman>	yeah, typo ;)
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08:30	<dihedral>	anybody feeling 0.5.3RC1 is on the horizon?
08:31	[~]	TrueBrain looks to the birds in the sky
08:31	<TrueBrain>	I count just 2
08:31	<TrueBrain>	nope
08:31	<KUDr_wrk>	redmonkey: what g++ version you compiled it on?
08:31	<TrueBrain>	gcc 4.2
08:31	<TrueBrain>	I want to bet on :p
08:32	<redmonkey>	KUDr_wrk: 4.2.0
08:33	<KUDr_wrk>	thanks
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08:34	<redmonkey>	do you need all the warnings?
08:35	<KUDr_wrk>	yes, if possible
08:35	<redmonkey>	one sec
08:35	<KUDr_wrk>	post it somewhere or try DCC it to me
08:38	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	paste.openttd.org
08:39	<redmonkey>	===> Compiling subsidy_gui.c
08:39	<redmonkey>	oops
08:40	<redmonkey>	http://paste.openttd.org/107
08:41	<KUDr_wrk>	thanks
08:41	<redmonkey>	no problem
08:45	<KUDr_wrk>	redmonkey: what do you have at blob.hpp line 238? I have here the following:
08:45	<KUDr_wrk>	FORCEINLINE void CheckIdx(int idx) { assert(idx >= 0); assert(idx < Size()); }
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08:47	<redmonkey>	FORCEINLINE void CheckIdx(int idx) { assert(idx >= 0); assert(idx < Size()); }
08:47	<KUDr_wrk>	yes, the same. So why warning? hmmmmmm
08:48	<redmonkey>	unfortunately i'm not a programmer, so i don't have a clue :)
08:49	<KUDr_wrk>	if it means only "assuming signed overflow does not occur" then it is his own optimization hint and he doesn't need to generate warning i guess
08:49	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	looks like a optimisation thing
08:49	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	possibly gcc bug?
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08:57	<redmonkey>	uhoh. i guess i copy and pasted it in a wrong codepage.. it shows questionmarks("?") instead of "’"
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09:48	<Noldo>	the compiler is letting you know that the condition is mostly allways true
09:53	<CIA-1>	OpenTTD: rubidium * r10137 /trunk/src/console_cmds.cpp: -Add: console command to get the current game date.
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09:56	<CIA-1>	OpenTTD: rubidium * r10138 /trunk/src/sound.cpp: -Fix: when you got a sufficiently small resolution, there is a possibility for a division by zero when a sound is played.
09:57	<CIA-1>	OpenTTD: rubidium * r10139 /trunk/src/openttd.cpp: -Fix: all inner parts of OpenTTD assume that the resolution is at least 1 by 1, so force the resolution to be always at least 1 by 1.
10:03	<Ailure>	I call anyone insane if they actually play at 1x1 resolution :p
10:03	<Ailure>	I know that it's a common trick to lower the resolution for servers so they run faster or something
10:03	<Rubidium>	dedicated server...
10:03	<Ailure>	:p
10:03	<XeryusTC>	it was unstable under a certain resolution though
10:03	<XeryusTC>	that resolution being 4xx*something IIRC
10:03	<Ailure>	heh
10:04	<Ailure>	I remember that OTTD used to crash if you had the console open
10:04	<Ailure>	while going under a certain resolution
10:04	<Rubidium>	XeryusTC: all those should've been solved by now
10:04	<XeryusTC>	yeah, i guessed that :P
10:22	<CIA-1>	OpenTTD: rubidium * r10140 /trunk/src/industry_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS#867]: an industry could overbuild a bridge.
10:24	<CIA-1>	OpenTTD: celestar * r10141 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Fix (FS#848, r8973): Set the newgrf bit for realistic plane speeds (bulb)
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10:35	<TrueBrain>	with the new null-blitter, the res matters even less :p
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11:04	<CIA-1>	OpenTTD: truelight * r10142 /trunk/src/ (blitter/32bpp_simple.cpp fontcache.cpp): -Fix r10132: do something useful with the alpha channel instead of ignoring it
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11:14	<stillunknown>	TrueBrain: Are you going for full 32bpp support?
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11:14	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	do you suggest him to go for half 32bpp support?
11:15	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	i.e. 16bpp?
11:15	<@peter1138>	actually...
11:16	<Sacro>	and then 24bpp
11:16	<@peter1138>	now that's silly
11:16	<TrueBrain>	stillunknown: who? me?
11:17	<@peter1138>	http://fuzzle.org/o/opengl4.png < how's that for art? :p
11:17	<hylje>	:o
11:18	<stillunknown>	TrueBrain: You or your alter ego.
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11:18	<Sacro>	peter1138: its very... abstract
11:18	<TrueBrain>	I don't have an alter ego
11:18	<TrueBrain>	I think
11:20	<@peter1138>	Sacro: 5 is a bit more conventional
11:20	<Sacro>	5bpp?
11:20	<@peter1138>	opengl5.png
11:21	<@peter1138>	still f00ked though
11:21	<CIA-1>	OpenTTD: truelight * r10143 /trunk/ (12 files in 5 dirs):
11:21	<CIA-1>	OpenTTD: -Add: store the filename of the grfs opened and allow easy access to the name
11:21	<CIA-1>	OpenTTD: -Codechange: store the SpriteID in the spritecache too
11:21	<CIA-1>	OpenTTD: -Add: add a PNG loader for graphical files
11:21	<CIA-1>	OpenTTD: -Documentation: added a document to explain the PNG format
11:21	<@peter1138>	:o
11:21	<hylje>	opengl renderer?!
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11:24	<@peter1138>	hylje: cough er, no?
11:24	<CIA-1>	OpenTTD: truelight * r10144 /trunk/docs/32bpp.txt: -Fix r10143: forgot some svn:eol-style
11:24	<hylje>	oh ok
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11:25	<kaan>	oh man, training was hard today
11:25	<TrueBrain>	poor kaan
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11:25	<kaan>	thanks, more please ;)
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11:26	<TrueBrain>	I have a hard day coding :p
11:26	<kaan>	ohh, poor thing ...
11:26	<TrueBrain>	have = had :p
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11:27	<stillunknown>	TrueBrain: Is this like the 32bpp format that was already floating around, or something new?
11:28	<TrueBrain>	it is lightly based on several patches
11:28	<stillunknown>	Is it safe to assume the 32bpp renderer is slow?
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11:28	<TrueBrain>	yes
11:29	<TrueBrain>	3 to 4 times slower than 8bpp-optimized
11:32	<stillunknown>	I wonder if a if a switch to disable certain rendering above a certain zoom level is usefull.
11:32	<TrueBrain>	why exactly?
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11:33	<stillunknown>	When looking at a huge map, with many trains, the rendering of those trains can make it difficult to go to the desired position.
11:33	<TrueBrain>	so you have to zoom in a bit :p
11:33	<TrueBrain>	disallowing the zoom-levle won't really help
11:33	<TrueBrain>	but okay, as I want to add a zoom-in level, and not all blitters iwll support that 1, 2, 3
11:34	<TrueBrain>	there most likely will be a function to disallow zoom-levels for certain blitters
11:34	<stillunknown>	I wouldn't disallow the zoom level.
11:34	<TrueBrain>	oh, you mean the rendering of things
11:34	<stillunknown>	Just disable certain rendering.
11:34	<TrueBrain>	for that you have smallma ;)
11:34	<TrueBrain>	hehe
11:34	<stillunknown>	smallma?
11:34	<TrueBrain>	smallmap
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11:34	<XeryusTC>	stillunknown: when you get to know TrueBrain a bit better you'll read through his random typo's
11:35	[~]	TrueBrain kicks XeryusTC (bitch)
11:35	<XeryusTC>	:P
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11:35	<grzywacz>	hi
11:35	<TrueBrain>	hi grzywacz
11:35	<XeryusTC>	he never fails to amaze me with his sentences that make no sense though :P
11:35	<XeryusTC>	oi!
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11:36	<Wolf01>	hello
11:36	<XeryusTC>	oi!
11:36	<Rubidium>	hmm, is XeryusTC TrueBrain's bitch? :D
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11:37	<XeryusTC>	Rubidium: fortunately not, i can't even imagine how it would be like to have met TrueBrain IRL
11:37	<Ailure>	YIFF
11:37	<Ailure>	eh
11:37	<Ailure>	I mean
11:37	<Ailure>	sup all
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11:37	<XeryusTC>	ceil()
11:37	<TrueBrain>	@kick XeryusTC (bitch)
11:38	<XeryusTC>	hey! i dont have to take this kind of shit from you [/cartman]
11:40	<TrueBrain>	yeah, you do
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11:43	<grzywacz>	Is this a dev-channel as well?
11:43	<Sacro>	as well as what?
11:43	<grzywacz>	As well as user-social-whining-whatever.
11:43	<grzywacz>	:P
11:43	<Sacro>	hmmm, its normally just a dev channel
11:43	<grzywacz>	Good.
11:44	<XeryusTC>	Sacro: no
11:45	<Ailure>	[18:41][18:41] <grzywacz> As well as user-social-whining-whatever.
11:45	<Ailure>	PBS
11:45	<Ailure>	and
11:45	<Ailure>	HIGHWAYS NOW!
11:45	<hylje>	NewEverything!
11:45	<Ailure>	becuse I demand it
11:45	<Rubidium>	Ailure: where are those patches?
11:45	<Ailure>	also let me find that highway mockup that's been posted 234234 times now
11:46	<Ailure>	;P
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11:46	<Ailure>	haha
11:46	<Ailure>	I hope I didn't scare him away.
11:46	<kaan>	hehe
11:47	<kaan>	wouldnt it be cool if we could like make this game into the sims for train drivers?
11:48	<Ailure>	mmm
11:48	<Ailure>	I really like the idea of watching the train driver while he's in the bathroom
11:48	<kaan>	ohhh, and a nudity patch too!
11:48	<Ailure>	Isn't the nudity on some trucks enough? ;)
11:49	<kaan>	never enough nudity!
11:49	<Ailure>	(There was some road vehicle newGRF that had naked women on the buses...)
11:49	<kaan>	LOL
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11:49	<kaan>	look, we are making them all leave :D
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11:50	<Ailure>	http://grfcrawler.tt-forums.net/details.php?do=details&id=83
11:50	<Ailure>	ah yes
11:50	<Ailure>	this one
11:50	<Ailure>	they're quite small though :p
11:51	<kaan>	oh, i must say that i think the artist has too much time on his hands.
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11:53	<Ailure>	He's multiplying
11:53	<kaan>	yup, we scared him good :P
11:54	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	is he Scaro now?
11:54	<kaan>	probably
11:56	<grzywacz>	Hm? Me? Scared away? Nah.
11:56	<Sacro_>	eh?
11:56	[~]	grzywacz points up
11:57	<Sacro_>	hmm?
11:57	<Ailure>	just do !logs and read :p
11:58	<Sacro_>	!logs
11:58	<SpComb>	Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd
11:59	<Sacro_>	ahh
11:59	<Sacro_>	my wifi is being an arse
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12:06	<@peter1138>	Eddi\|zuHause3: ping?
12:07	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	ponh
12:07	<@peter1138>	Eddi\|zuHause3: was it you who experienced the vehicle disappearing?
12:07	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	yes
12:07	<@peter1138>	still there, i presume
12:07	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	i have not tested in a while
12:07	<@peter1138>	vehicle.cpp:902, try changing 0xFFFF to 0xFFF
12:07	<@peter1138>	the array size is 0x1000, not 0x10000...
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12:09	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	compiling takes a while
12:10	<@peter1138>	:(
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12:12	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	it's taking awfully long...
12:12	<@peter1138>	there's loads of c++ shit now ;)
12:13	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	does not fix it
12:14	<XeryusTC>	Eddi\|zuHause3: get a better cpu
12:15	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	i mean the modification does not fix the drawing problem :)
12:18	<@peter1138>	:-(
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12:25	<Wolf01>	do you are merging the 32bpp?
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12:27	<Rubidium>	uhm, "the" 32bpp?
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12:28	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	someone is probably doing something to 32bpp, but i'd not exactly call it "merging"
12:29	<Noldo>	adding 32bpp related features to the trunk
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12:34	<CIA-1>	OpenTTD: rubidium * r10145 /trunk/src/ (intro_gui.cpp main_gui.cpp oldloader.cpp strings.cpp): -Fix: make compiling with networking disabled (again) possible.
12:35	<TrueBrain>	s/adding/added/
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12:45	<@peter1138>	optimised!
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12:53	<Progman>	something annoying part in the new order system, you cannot lose the focus of an entry if you click on the order windows background anymore
12:54	<kaan>	peter1138: are you trying to say something specific?
12:55	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	he's trying to say "optimized" but cannot spell it correctly :p
12:55	<Ailure>	oooptemezed
12:55	<kaan>	oh, I see.
12:56	<kaan>	i better get me some dinne :)
12:56	<kaan>	*dinner
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13:09	<stillunknown>	Is there a good reason why vehicles are not a double linked list?
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13:10	<dihedral>	allo there
13:11	<Rubidium>	'allo 'allo
13:12	<Wolf01>	http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=32516 lol... i remember this behaviour existed as a bug :D
13:12	<@peter1138>	Eddi\|zuHause3: what was the "missing vehicle formula?
13:12	<@peter1138>	+"
13:13	<@peter1138>	1024 something something something
13:13	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	(x, 1024+x) or the other way round
13:13	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	whatever is the top left border
13:13	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	it's probably symmetric, but i did not test that
13:14	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	wait, i have a savegame somewhere
13:14	<@peter1138>	ideally paused with a missing vehicle in the viewport ;)
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13:20	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	http://www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Muenchen%20Transport,%2012.%20Jan%201930.sav
13:21	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	it's not paused at the right moment, but the train is going back and forth
13:21	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	you can clearly see it
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13:21	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	http://www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Muenchen%20Transport,%2019.%20Jan%201930-a.png
13:21	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	http://www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Muenchen%20Transport,%2019.%20Jan%201930-b.png
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13:21	<@peter1138>	server is not responding :o
13:21	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	urgs...
13:22	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	damn them!
13:24	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	it'll work again eventually, but probably not tonight...
13:25	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	i'll go upload it to bugs.openttd.org
13:27	<dihedral>	how about makeing exclusive transport rights a feature one can disable?
13:27	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	if only there was a fast way to transfer it directly from the server... my home connection is not exactly fast
13:35	<CIA-1>	OpenTTD: belugas * r10146 /trunk/src/newgrf_industrytiles.cpp:
13:35	<CIA-1>	OpenTTD: -Codechange: Silence a compiler warning
13:35	<CIA-1>	OpenTTD: -Codechange: Comment style beautifying
13:35	<CIA-1>	OpenTTD: -Codechange: define (tentatively) var 0x44 and 0x61 for industry tiles
13:36	<CIA-1>	OpenTTD: rubidium * r10147 /trunk/src/oldloader.cpp: -Fix: the oldloader did clear some bits for road vehicles that shouldn't be cleared in some cases.
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13:38	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	what exactly does "tentatively" mean?
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13:39	<Rubidium>	Eddi\|zuHause3->LookupInDictionary("tentatively")
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13:41	<@Belugas>	Eddi\|zuHause3 : like... not sure if it is the correct way of doing, but it sure do look fine. However, "i make no claim to correctness, speed, or anything"
13:41	<@Belugas>	harhar :D
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13:48	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	peter1138: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/869
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