TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#openttd:2007:05:13

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01:49	<DaleStan>	Website ops: (TrueBrain?) nightlies.php still tries to link to http://svn.openttd.org/<;...>, but that was taken down a long time ago.
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02:33	<Wolf01>	hello
02:37	<@peter1138>	"Is there any way the Copy & Paste patch could be implemented as a newGRF?"
02:37	<@peter1138>	hmm
02:41	<Ailure>	sounds like a typical question one of my classmates would make.
02:42	<Wolf01>	but would be cool :D
02:44	<Wolf01>	but the oddest thing i've seen is the "no exe in the nightlies"...
02:44	<Wolf01>	i hope he didn't clicked on the first package he found...
02:44	<Ailure>	I think he did
02:45	<Ailure>	I mean hell
02:45	<Ailure>	same classmate
02:45	<Ailure>	and tortoiseSVN
02:45	<Ailure>	it dosen' twork
02:45	<Ailure>	checks
02:45	<Ailure>	...he had downloaded the source package.
02:45	<Ailure>	We gone through a few programming courses by now so ngghh
02:45	<Ailure>	he probably quits soon xD
02:45	<Ailure>	dropping out
02:49	<Ailure>	people say that there's no stupid questions but... he manages to prove that wrong. :<
02:51	<Wolf01>	http://www.tt-forums.net//files/fast_3_way_225.jpg what does change between the two junctions? (something else than 2 tiles raised)
02:52	<Wolf01>	A:"poor signalling", B:"the best"... they are the same
02:55	<Ailure>	I belive A would cause slowdown though
02:56	<Ailure>	at least for the railway just below the sign
02:56	<Ailure>	hmm then
02:59	<hylje>	upper has a slow curve
02:59	<hylje>	a diagonal rail going up or down a hill is slow
02:59	<Ailure>	yeah that's what I thought on
03:00	<hylje>	fo sho
03:00	<Ailure>	The game dosen't like
03:00	<Ailure>	when the trains 'bends' in all possible ways
03:00	<Ailure>	or rather
03:00	<Ailure>	the acceleration model dosen't
03:00	<hylje>	several bends in the same window
03:00	<hylje>	from how it works it takesthat window from a % of the train length
03:01	<Ailure>	I noticed that train with really high HP
03:01	<Ailure>	such as Eurostar in the UKRS
03:02	<Ailure>	can do sharp turns but in a really weird way
03:02	<hylje>	_p
03:02	<Ailure>	the speed is constantly speeding up and down
03:02	<hylje>	:o
03:02	<Ailure>	looks rather funny
03:02	<hylje>	shinkansen railset trains can do 2tile turns too
03:02	<hylje>	its rather silly
03:02	<Ailure>	yeah
03:02	<Ailure>	it seems like high HP trains tend to break the sharp turn rule
03:03	<Ailure>	or at least temponarily
03:03	<Ailure>	they sitll get a slowdown, but not a heavy one
03:04	<Ailure>	I should play with it again
03:04	<Ailure>	dunno if there's been any change to the acceleration model
03:05	<Ailure>	there were some critism about it I heard
03:05	<Ailure>	well heh, it's a bit generous when it comes to acceleration
03:06	<Ailure>	I rarely find a use for some high HP trains unless I increase the freight multiplier
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03:06	<hylje>	well
03:06	<hylje>	long trains
03:06	<Ailure>	and even then, even heavy but not so powerful trains can at least reach 70-80 km/h with no problems unless you make it really extreme
03:07	<hylje>	make that FAST long trains
03:07	<Ailure>	heh
03:07	<Ailure>	thoose are fun to make
03:07	<Ailure>	10 tiles long trains
03:07	<hylje>	20 tile maglev
03:07	<hylje>	640km/h
03:07	<Ailure>	heh
03:07	<Ailure>	my limit goes at ten tiles
03:07	<Ailure>	mostly due to gamescale
03:08	<Ailure>	still hmm
03:09	<Ailure>	heh
03:09	<Ailure>	the default maglev uusally have no problems reaching max speed
03:09	<Ailure>	even with lots of heavy cargo
03:09	<hylje>	then they go up one(1) tile hill
03:10	<Ailure>	with what acceleration model?
03:10	<Ailure>	the old one is xD
03:10	<Ailure>	with slopes
03:10	<Ailure>	even the fastest trains went down to 30 km/h with even simple slopes
03:10	<hylje>	yes
03:11	<Ailure>	it was painful watching your 640 km/h maglev train
03:11	<Ailure>	climbing a mountain at 30 km/h
03:11	<hylje>	with large HP and improved accel
03:11	<hylje>	trains could climb massive cliffs just fine
03:11	<hylje>	at nearly full speed, no less.
03:13	<Ailure>	yeah
03:13	<Ailure>	I rarely see maglev trains slowing down climbing them
03:13	<Ailure>	I do see railway trains doing that if it's a really steep climb :p
03:13	<Ailure>	steep climb would be relativly and depend on the hp/weight of train
03:14	<Ailure>	http://194.47.44.201/openTTD/stairs.png
03:14	<Ailure>	I found myself doing this in some game XD
03:14	<Ailure>	although in a more discrete way
03:15	<hylje>	wtf, stair
03:15	<hylje>	s
03:15	<Ailure>	slope, flat land, slope, flat land
03:15	<Ailure>	with some really heavy trains you need even more flat land inbetween the slopes to maintain full speed
03:15	<Ailure>	or near full speed
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03:16	<Ailure>	and even then I try to keep terraforming ot a minium nowadays :p
03:16	<Ailure>	I was screwing around in that game, which is why I made a mountain in the middle of nowhere
03:16	<Wolf01>	when 1x2 slopes?
03:17	<Ailure>	heh
03:17	<Ailure>	sometimes I don't play with the slopes until after I built a line
03:18	<Ailure>	to avoid unecessary terraforming :p
03:18	<@peter1138>	hairpins :D
03:18	<@peter1138>	less terraforming
03:18	<Wolf01>	no i meant, now we have 45° slopes, we need 22.5° :D
03:18	<@peter1138>	they're distinctly not 4 degrees
03:18	<@peter1138>	or 45
03:18	<Ailure>	how many degress are the slopes though?
03:19	<Ailure>	It's kinda hard to tell from the isometric view
03:19	<Ailure>	45 degrees seems a bit much though
03:19	<Wolf01>	they should be 30
03:20	<@peter1138>	they're 1:2
03:20	<Ailure>	hmm
03:20	<@peter1138>	16 units along a tile and 8 units up
03:20	<Ailure>	yeah
03:20	<@peter1138>	dunno what that is in degrees ;p
03:20	<Wolf01>	ok, they are already 22.5
03:20	<Ailure>	half of 45
03:20	<Wolf01>	so we need 11.25
03:20	<Ailure>	...which is 22.5
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03:21	<Ailure>	as wolf pointed out
03:21	<Ailure>	heh
03:21	<Wolf01>	always too much for a train
03:21	<@peter1138>	is it simply helf?
03:21	<Ailure>	What else would it be?
03:21	<hylje>	are you implying we should Has a mesh-based terrain?
03:21	<Wolf01>	is mathematic...
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03:21	<Wolf01>	draw a line, 1:1 is 45°
03:21	<@peter1138>	yes, 1:1 is 45
03:22	<Ailure>	90 degree cliffs like seen in the Transport Tycoon 2 engine would be nice :p
03:22	<Ailure>	Well, I already seen 90 degree stuff in openTTD
03:22	<hylje>	oh yes
03:22	<Ailure>	:D
03:22	<Ailure>	halls of infinite mirrors glitching
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03:22	<hylje>	screenshot plz
03:22	<@peter1138>	you mean locomotion? :p
03:22	<Ailure>	that waterlevel patch
03:23	<Ailure>	water can be of a certain height
03:23	<Ailure>	anyway, whatever is below the water
03:23	<Ailure>	when something is flooding
03:23	<Ailure>	gives the halls of mirros effect
03:23	<Ailure>	of doom fame
03:23	<Ailure>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hall_of_mirrors_effect
03:24	<Ailure>	[10:23][10:23] <peter1138> you mean locomotion? :p
03:24	<Ailure>	No, Transport Tycoon 2 ;)
03:24	<Ailure>	I was jokingly referring to all games using the engine
03:24	<Ailure>	from Rollercoaster tycoon
03:24	<Ailure>	which apparently orginally was going to be for a Transport Tycoon Sequel
03:25	<hylje>	oh, wow
03:26	<@peter1138>	deg = arctan(ratio)
03:26	<Wolf01>	i love that terrain engine... but i hate the game (lomo) because they should have learned from previous errors, and there are many glitches and bugs instead, like the odd transparency (half of the screen)
03:26	<Ailure>	Rollercoaster terrain
03:27	<Ailure>	made me wish it was in 3D actually
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03:27	<Ailure>	Digging a really deep hole could be a pain in the ass sometimes
03:27	<hylje>	:p
03:27	<Wolf01>	that's true
03:27	<hylje>	bottomless pits
03:27	<Ailure>	and sometimes it didn't matter whatever rotation you look from
03:27	<Ailure>	or whatever things you made transparents
03:27	<Ailure>	some things were hidden from your view if you made stuff cramped
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03:28	<Ailure>	I actually like 3D simulation games for their flexibility xD
03:28	<@peter1138>	so i'm right ;p
03:28	<@peter1138>	1:1 is 45 deg
03:28	<@peter1138>	1:2 is 26.5650512 deg
03:28	<Wolf01>	i still can't understand why they don't made the terraform tool like rollercoaster, where you had the possibility to raise cliffs when raising a single tile, like TTD
03:29	<Ailure>	It would made life easier yes
03:29	<@peter1138>	so you want 1:4 which is 14.0362435 degrees....
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03:29	<Ailure>	I got annoyed when I had to do manaul work on something that was easy to do in TTD
03:30	<Wolf01>	trains need 4 degrees (if i'm not wrong), with more you need racks to climb an hill
03:30	<Ailure>	that regarding 3D thread is intresting though
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03:30	<hylje>	peter1138! use foundations to allow silly cliffs!
03:30	<Ailure>	lots of misconceptions about 3D
03:30	<Ailure>	It's like
03:30	<Ailure>	3D in games is a curse
03:30	<Ailure>	it makes games confusing
03:30	<@peter1138>	needs "new map array" !
03:30	<Ailure>	and that itmakes gameplay worse?
03:31	<Ailure>	New map array
03:31	<hylje>	3d is harder to navigate in than plain 2d
03:31	<Ailure>	That's probably the holy grail of openTTD programming
03:31	<Ailure>	:p
03:31	<@peter1138>	ok, it needs more bits in the map array, heh
03:31	<hylje>	hence most RTS n other stuff is 2d
03:31	<@peter1138>	Ailure: it's a joke, now ;)
03:31	<Ailure>	harder to navigate? heh
03:31	<hylje>	well
03:31	<hylje>	dimensions+1
03:31	<Wolf01>	ten thousand of years you are talking of new map array, and we haven't seen something about it ;)
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03:32	<Ailure>	Most 3D games solve the navigation problems
03:32	<Ailure>	by hiding away the camera controls unless they are needed for some reason
03:32	<Ailure>	most 3D rts games does this
03:32	<Ailure>	but it's still possible to rotate around if you need to
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03:33	<Ailure>	The sims 2 is nice with it's camera
03:33	<Ailure>	it have a free flying mode that is fun to play with
03:34	<hylje>	and to be frank
03:34	<hylje>	most 3d implementations suck
03:34	<@peter1138>	Wolf01: we've got one... it's literally just another array ;p
03:34	<Ailure>	but some are good
03:34	<Ailure>	There's 2D games that sucks too
03:35	<Ailure>	As long you don't go 3D for the sake of going 3D it usually goes well
03:35	<Wolf01>	one of my friends told me that ttd sucks because is 2D
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03:35	<Wolf01>	i killed him
03:35	<Ailure>	haha
03:35	<hylje>	murderer
03:35	<Ailure>	Well some people got the idea that 3D game means that it automatically sucks
03:35	<Ailure>	and the other way around too :p
03:36	<Ailure>	Sometimes you can mix too
03:36	<Ailure>	Sometimes it's better to use 3D models than storing 234324234 sprites of a object in various rotations
03:37	<Ailure>	It dosen't have to be polygons, it can be voxels too. :)
03:37	<hylje>	usually 8 rotations are enough
03:37	<Ailure>	Pixel arts should like voxels ;P
03:37	<Ailure>	*artists
03:37	<@peter1138>	not really
03:37	<hylje>	voxels were used in tiberian sun
03:37	<hylje>	for a bunch of tanks
03:37	<Ailure>	yeah
03:38	<Wolf01>	what i like of 3D games, is that they allow (most of the times) to place buildings and other things in every direction, what i don't like of them is the same thing, because you can mess up the base by mistaking an angle, like in C&C generals/tiberium wars.. with 2D you were able to place buildings in every free tile, if sufficient space
03:38	<@peter1138>	they're don't give you the same level of detail as plain 2d pixel images...
03:38	<@peter1138>	and voxels are a bitch for 3d accelerators, heh
03:38	<Ailure>	well sadly
03:38	<Ailure>	3D acceleration technology
03:38	<Ailure>	dosen't exactly focus on Voxels
03:38	<hylje>	Wolf01: yes if the game doesnt enforce building on tiles
03:38	<Ailure>	Voxels are really neat
03:38	<hylje>	Wolf01: but if they do the situation is the same as with 2d
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03:39	<Ailure>	It's funny too
03:39	<Ailure>	someoen made a 3D model in that 3D thread
03:39	<Ailure>	but if it wasn't for the outlines of a box
03:39	<Ailure>	I could easily have confused it for a voxelmodel
03:40	<hylje>	:o
03:40	<Wolf01>	with 2D was really clear where you are allowed to build and where not, with 3D you should take count also of the degree of the terrain
03:40	<hylje>	Wolf01: usually in rtses buildings have foundations
03:40	<hylje>	Wolf01: allowing them to build in most terrain
03:40	<Wolf01>	not always, try to build 4 power plants in a slope...
03:41	<Ailure>	Simcity4 did that
03:41	<Ailure>	as long you don't try to build stuff on extreme slopes
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03:41	<Ailure>	it usally works
03:41	<hylje>	sc4 had silly foundations
03:41	<Ailure>	some special buildings have a tendancy to flat out stuff
03:41	<Ailure>	such as power plants
03:41	<hylje>	usually extreme slopes worked just fine
03:41	<Desolator>	hello
03:41	<Wolf01>	hi
03:41	<Ailure>	well heh
03:41	<Ailure>	foundations tend to look odd with extreme slopes
03:41	<Ailure>	I had small houses
03:41	<Ailure>	with really really tall foundations
03:41	<hylje>	yes
03:41	<Ailure>	in some screwy places
03:42	<Ailure>	but it usually looks fine
03:42	<hylje>	the passively built buildings did not terraform
03:42	<Desolator>	I'm thinking of making a new MiniIN
03:42	<Wolf01>	good luck
03:42	<Ailure>	TTD's foundations looks odd in some situations as well
03:42	<hylje>	but made foundations all over the place
03:43	<Ailure>	but heh
03:43	<Ailure>	with some extrene foundations
03:43	<Ailure>	it probably would be a bad idea to open the wrong door on some buildings
03:43	<Ailure>	:p
03:43	<Ailure>	hmm
03:44	<Ailure>	buildings do terraform slightly when they are built though
03:44	<Ailure>	but only if they can
03:44	<Ailure>	The extreme foundations usually happens in tight places now I think on it
03:45	<Ailure>	where there's not much space for terraformin, or where proper terraforming would change too much
03:48	<Ailure>	soon noon
03:48	<Ailure>	I hadn't slept over the night
03:48	<Ailure>	so I should do that soon lol
03:49	<hylje>	:o
03:49	<hylje>	i used to have my highways in ditches
03:50	<hylje>	and have buildings and park around them
03:50	<Ailure>	ah
03:51	<Ailure>	heh I should play Simcity4 again
03:51	<Ailure>	with Rush hour of course
03:51	<Ailure>	It's a good expansion pack xD
03:51	<Ailure>	but to be honest, it have features that should ben there from the beginning
03:51	<Ailure>	such as the traffic query tool that shows the paths people take in the city
03:52	<Ailure>	Simcity4 always had a advanced traffic algorithm, but you weren't always aware of what was going on expect for traffic congestion :/
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03:56	<Wolf01>	one feature that should been there from the beginning should be "show catchement areas" for existent stations
03:56	<Wolf01>	i'm working on it, with immense difficulty, but i have something working (thanks to frostregen)
03:57	<Ailure>	heh how station catchment work is kinda broken though
03:58	<Ailure>	but yeah, that would be useful
03:59	<Wolf01>	station catchement is a pain with non-uniform stations
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04:03	<Ailure>	and the broken station handling is more noticeable iwth non-unform stations too
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04:05	<kaan>	goodmorning
04:06	<Wolf01>	morning
04:07	<Desolator>	morning kaan
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04:12	<Wolf01>	when will newindustries be ready, it will allow also industries on slopes?
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04:13	<Rubidium>	my calculations are summer 2008 ;) (yay for statistics)
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05:15	<Desolator>	what are the nightlies compiled with?
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05:17	<Desolator>	MinGW?
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05:18	<@peter1138>	gcc
05:18	<Desolator>	and MinGW doesn't use gcc?
05:25	<Rubidium>	mingw assumes that all nightlies are windows binaries and that the nightlies are compiled on Windows
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05:26	<Rubidium>	which both incorrect assumptions
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05:26	<Rubidium>	+are
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06:04	<@peter1138>	gah
06:04	<@peter1138>	stupid nvidia
06:06	<@peter1138>	resolution changing fucks up :/
06:08	<@peter1138>	works at 24 or 16 bit, but not 15 or 8
06:08	<hylje>	:o
06:08	<Wolf01>	15 O_O
06:08	<hylje>	5 bits per color
06:09	<Wolf01>	125 colors
06:09	<Wolf01>	is an odd resolution
06:10	<boekabart>	!? how did you come up with 125 colors/
06:10	<boekabart>	32 x 32 x 32 = eh, more.
06:10	<Rubidium>	555 I guess
06:11	<Rubidium>	2^15 = 32768...
06:11	<boekabart>	see, more :)
06:11	<boekabart>	actually usually they give one color (green i think) the extra bit. since the eye is most sensitive to green.
06:12	<Wolf01>	oh right... 2^15, not 5^3
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06:15	<@peter1138>	boekabart: that's 16 bpp
06:16	<@peter1138>	anyway, the weird thing is, converting from 8 to 16 bpp instead of 8 to 32 bpp is a lot quicker for me
06:16	<@peter1138>	shame X doesn't allow colour depth changing...
06:18	<@peter1138>	or just hardware 8->32bpp conversion
06:18	<boekabart>	half the memory bandwidth is the only diff, right
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06:18	<@peter1138>	it allows it for opengl textures...
06:18	<@peter1138>	boekabart: yeah, suppose that's right
06:19	<mikk36>	any of u watch MD House ?
06:20	<Wolf01>	i watched it
06:20	<mikk36>	up to which episode ?
06:20	<Wolf01>	all the first and second series
06:20	<mikk36>	ah great :)
06:20	<mikk36>	i just watched S02E24
06:21	<mikk36>	last episode of 2nd season
06:21	<mikk36>	that's one sick part :P
06:21	<Wolf01>	uhm, i don't remember it
06:21	<mikk36>	the one where 95% of the episode is a dream
06:21	<mikk36>	where house gets shot
06:21	<Wolf01>	oh yes
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06:22	<Wolf01>	then i watched also half of the third season
06:22	<mikk36>	at the end where he cut the tonque patient open... i was like... what the f***
06:22	<mikk36>	i have almost all episodes on my hdd
06:23	<Wolf01>	:)
06:23	<mikk36>	only 5-6 missing from the end
06:23	<mikk36>	been watching it for some weeks now
06:24	<mikk36>	and today is my last day as a free man again :P
06:24	<mikk36>	going back to work (got a new job)
06:25	<Wolf01>	i'm looking for a new job too
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07:12	<mikk36>	missing 4 episodes DL'ing :)
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07:46	<xyz>	hi
07:46	<xyz>	is there a server with "hard difficulty"?
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07:58	<elmex>	hm
07:59	<elmex>	the difficulties are no real difference either
07:59	<elmex>	only that it takes longer with hard to earn enough money
08:00	<elmex>	hm
08:00	<elmex>	lately there have been not many interesting games on the servers :-/
08:00	<hylje>	low loan
08:00	<elmex>	well, with low loan you just need longer
08:00	<elmex>	and with multiplayer that sucks because no fast-forward :)
08:01	<hylje>	with low loan you must get profitable with that £100k
08:01	<elmex>	hm, i'm used to see more network-structure games on the servers grmbl...
08:01	<elmex>	it's nto very hard to get profitable
08:02	<elmex>	the fchallenge with multiplayer is: be as profitable as others
08:02	<hylje>	but profitable enough
08:03	<elmex>	yes
08:03	<elmex>	it will make entrance into a game for people harder that join later
08:04	<elmex>	but that was always hard anyway
08:05	<elmex>	i mean, once you got a profitable route all you need it to wait for the money to come in and build a second train or route and after that you quickly paid your loan and start expanding further
08:06	<elmex>	hard difficulty would be interesting if the economy would work differntly. eg. second level industries have a upper limit of cargo they accept and such
08:06	<elmex>	difficulties that actually have influence on your gameplay
08:07	<elmex>	having servers where trains don't go 90degree or with "realisic" acceleration is already interesting as you hav to adapt your routes to that
08:08	<elmex>	but maybe i'm biased by my affection to large rail networks :)
08:09	<elmex>	and i think the server dialog should force you to enter a real nickname
08:09	<elmex>	other than Player
08:09	<elmex>	with no default :)
08:09	<elmex>	everytime someone named 'Player' joins i'm afraid that its someone who will messup the game
08:10	<elmex>	not because he's a newbie, but because i've seen lots of 'Player' people joining a unprotected company and messing up the landscape with leveling with all the money
08:10	<elmex>	or similiar stuff
08:11	<elmex>	that will of course not really change with a forced entry of the name ;-/
08:11	<Ammler>	hmm, does that depense on the nick? Icould join with nick "friend" and mess up the map
08:12	<elmex>	right
08:12	<elmex>	ignore that point :)
08:15	<Thomas[NL]_>	http://ttartist.freeforums.org/portal.php you guys knew of this site?
08:17	<elmex>	no
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08:18	<elmex>	it seems to be new
08:18	<elmex>	and forum isn't browsable or empty :)
08:19	<@peter1138>	dark on black...
08:19	<@peter1138>	ah, it's SAC :D
08:19	<elmex>	SAC?
08:22	<Ammler>	peter1138: Is there more, when you register?
08:22	<@peter1138>	nope ;p
08:22	<Thomas[NL]_>	whats the L & X in TTDLX ?
08:23	<@peter1138>	DeLuXe
08:23	<Thomas[NL]_>	ah
08:23	<Thomas[NL]_>	keep an eye on http://www.i-gameartist.com/
08:23	<@peter1138>	why?
08:24	<@peter1138>	oh, i see
08:24	<Thomas[NL]_>	I found the forum :/
08:25	<Thomas[NL]_>	my god
08:29	<Wolf01>	bad choice to have the forum hidden to guests
08:30	<Thomas[NL]_>	seems like you could only be invited first
08:31	<Thomas[NL]_>	SAC is online on the forums it seems
08:32	<Wolf01>	after the experience on the official forum, i think sac was really angry and i can understand her
08:33	<Thomas[NL]_>	may I ask what happened?
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08:35	<Wolf01>	http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=8919&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=infra&start=940
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08:44	<Thomas[NL]_>	That's a sad story...
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08:50	<elmex>	hm
08:50	<elmex>	could someone sum it up for me? 50 pages
08:50	<elmex>	nvm
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08:56	<Rubidium>	elmex: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=538222#538222 <- just read that post
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08:57	<elmex>	hm,yes
08:58	<elmex>	SAC seems to be quite reasonable
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11:12	<ewanm89>	hey, how are you?
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11:14	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	"idle" probably describes it :)
11:18	<ewanm89>	Anyone using latest svn?
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11:41	<Wolf01>	nothing interesting today, eh?
11:51	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	no, only that arctan(1/2) != 22.5°
11:52	<ewanm89>	Anyone using latest svn of openttd?
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11:54	<Wolf01>	Eddi\|zuHause2, as you can see, i'm not good at maths
11:54	<Wolf01>	ewanm89, yes
11:55	<ewanm89>	Can I play against you?
11:55	<Wolf01>	no
11:55	<ewanm89>	:(
11:55	<Wolf01>	i have other things to do
11:55	<ewanm89>	OK
11:56	<ewanm89>	Does anyone recommend any particular newgrf files?
11:56	<Wolf01>	TTRSv3
11:56	<Wolf01>	and UKRS
11:56	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	DBSetXL
11:56	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	and, of course, stolentrees :)
11:57	<Wolf01>	stolentrees is a must
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12:01	<ewanm89>	Where can I get stolen trees?
12:01	<ewanm89>	s/n t/nt/
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12:04	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	from grfcrawler, i assume
12:04	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	and it's on the forum, but it might be hidden :)
12:08	<Szandor>	anybody got thoughts on my overwrite roadstops patch? ( http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=31893 )
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12:42	<Wolf01>	enhanced the adjoin patch, all station can be adjoined now
12:43	<Wolf01>	the patch: http://www.tt-forums.net//files/adjoin_stations_9828_2_140.diff
12:49	<ewanm89_>	stolentrees not on grfcrawler, could someone DCC it to me?
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12:54	<ewanm89>	Wolf01: Could you dcc me stolentrees?
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12:56	<Thomas[NL]_>	http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=527234&highlight=stolen+trees+grf#527234 10 seconds of tt-forums search magic needed
12:57	<ewanm89>	thanks
12:58	<tormentum>	!logs
12:58	<SpComb>	Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd
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13:05	<Wolf01>	there's somebody who want to help for autoroad tool?
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14:27	<Ammler>	help invite
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14:48	<Wolf01>	'night
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15:06	<eJoJ>	Where can i submit a bug?
15:06	<glx>	bugs.openttd.org
15:06	<glx>	check if it isn't already reported first
15:06	<eJoJ>	oki
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