TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#openttd:2007:04:26

---	Log	opened Thu Apr 26 00:00:40 2007
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01:22	<TheJosh>	Hey
01:22	<lolman>	TheJosh, morning
01:22	<lolman>	Or is it afternoon over there in Oz?
01:22	<TheJosh>	almost 4pm
01:22	<lolman>	Heh
01:22	<lolman>	Just gone 7am for me :P
01:23	<TheJosh>	your crazy, who is on the computer that early?
01:23	<TheJosh>	i only start at 7:01
01:23	<lolman>	It's 7:23 :)
01:23	<lolman>	I count anything before half past "just gone"
01:24	<TheJosh>	hey whats your opinion on my 'found a town' patch having a gui (select town size) ???
01:24	<lolman>	I'd have thought it would just have to be a small town to start with
01:25	<TheJosh>	currently it is a random town (same size as the towns when you do new random game)
01:25	<TheJosh>	just deciding if i should put in a gui or not (small , medium, large, city)
01:27	<lolman>	Hrm, I assume each would cost varying amounts of money (And I'm not a programmer, can't say anything about that side)
01:27	<TheJosh>	of course
01:28	<lolman>	Personally I wouldn't use it, but am sure others may :)
01:29	<TheJosh>	well it wouldnt be optional, if you clicked 'found a town', then the gui would show up asking the town size.
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01:34	<TheJosh>	thanks for your opinion lolman
01:35	<lolman>	TheJosh, I mean the whole patch but heh :D
01:35	<TheJosh>	dont worry, that will be optional
01:36	<TheJosh>	you dont like the idea of founding a town?
01:49	<CIA-2>	OpenTTD: peter1138 * r9717 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Codechange: (NewGRF) Skip Action 5 & A sprites in all loading stages except activation.
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02:24	<CIA-2>	OpenTTD: peter1138 * r9718 /trunk/src/engine.cpp: -Fix: Don't allow building of rail vehicles whose railtype isn't available yet. This also affects the rail purchase window.
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02:25	<peter1138>	i.e. no more stray monorail wagon when using dbsetxl
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02:41	<boekabart_>	:( still no waterfall gfx ...
02:41	<CIA-2>	OpenTTD: rubidium * r9719 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): -Fix: in-game private messages did not work for clients with a Client ID > 255.
03:23	<Noldo>	there's someting about rewriting memory pools, is it done or still waiting for something?
03:30	<blathijs>	still waiting for me to invest time :-)
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03:32	<Noldo>	ok :)
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06:53	<Ailure>	hmm
06:53	<Ailure>	I wonder when we hit revision 10000
06:53	<XeryusTC>	never
06:54	<XeryusTC>	the world will cease to exist at r9891
06:56	<Progman>	it jumps to 9000 as the millenium bug
06:57	<Ailure>	It reverts to...
06:57	<Ailure>	http://194.47.44.201/openttd/oldTT.PNG
07:00	<Progman>	nice monorail btw.
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07:04	<Ailure>	heh the TTO monorail
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07:13	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	hm, i have never seen that opening screen
07:17	<Ailure>	It's from a demo apparently
07:17	<Ailure>	TTO and TTO with world edition have a diffrent title screen
07:18	<Ailure>	but same one for some reason
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07:21	<valhallasw>	Ailure: tech demo?
07:22	<Ailure>	eH I got it from some TT fansite saying it was a TT demo that was releaesd with some magazine
07:22	<valhallasw>	Progman: that monorail bridge indeed is nice
07:22	<valhallasw>	hmkay
07:22	<Ailure>	well TTO uses same monorai
07:22	<Ailure>	<_<
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07:39	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	i had played a TT demo version, but it had a different title screen
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08:55	<boekabart_>	is there a counter other than _timer_counter that is always running? _tick doesn't in scenario editor mode :(
08:56	<boekabart_>	and i don't suppose _timer_counter is synched between clients, right
08:57	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	what does scenario editor have to do with network?
08:58	<boekabart_>	nothing. but i need a semi-random number that works in scenario editor AND is synchronized in network (when not in scenario)
08:59	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	and what is wrong with the random function that is used throughout the rest of the game?
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09:14	<peter1138>	hmm
09:14	<peter1138>	today's xkcd <3
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09:21	<boekabart_>	I can use random in TileLoop?!
09:22	<boekabart_>	it's network-safe?
09:24	<peter1138>	yes
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09:30	<yeti_>	hi :) if i want to try PBS, should i rather use the latest miniIN or patch 0.5.1?
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09:31	<valhallasw>	PBS has been stripped out of the nightlies for a reason
09:31	<valhallasw>	iirc it hasn't made stable at all
09:31	<valhallasw>	so you'd be stuck with either outdated nightlies or an outdated miniin release
09:33	<yeti_>	yeah, i see there's no patch for recent versions... never mind then, just thought so because the wiki still says "you can patch the sources with the PBS patch"
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09:37	<boekabart_>	what is interactiverandom?
09:42	<peter1138>	for client side stuff that isn't synchronised
09:44	<boekabart_>	thanks
09:46	<hylje>	what is
09:46	<hylje>	i just upgraded irssi
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10:02	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	!calc 4.03/0.3
10:02	<_42_>	Eddi\|zuHause2: 13.4333333333;
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11:38	<Wolf01>	hello
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11:42	<lolman>	Ello Wolf01
11:42	<Wolf01>	hello lolman!
11:43	[~]	lolman is in the middle of moving his home folder
11:48	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	do you pack everything in boxes and mark them, so you know what's in them, before you unpack?
11:48	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	do you have friends carrying the boxes to the new home?
11:49	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	</irony>
11:53	[~]	lolman slaps self for being so AFK
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12:10	[~]	Wolf01 slaps lolman, don't slap yourself!
12:10	<lolman>	:o
12:11	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	yeah, slap Sacro_ instead :p
12:11	<lolman>	OKAY!
12:11	[~]	lolman slaps Sacro_
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12:33	<CIA-2>	OpenTTD: peter1138 * r9720 /trunk/src/window.cpp: -Codechange: Remove global var and gotos from window autoplacement
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12:59	<dihedral>	hi
13:00	<ln->	do palms grow naturally in italy?
13:00	<Trapdoor>	hey uhm
13:01	<Trapdoor>	do i need the original TTD files if im making a dedicated build in linux?
13:01	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	yes
13:01	<Wolf01>	we have palms
13:01	<Trapdoor>	who'd you answer?
13:01	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	i am not italian :)
13:01	<Wolf01>	i'm italian
13:02	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	see, logically, i am letting the italian answer the italian question
13:03	\|-\|	SpComb changed nick to ^_^
13:04	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	you have a strange face, spcomb
13:04	<^_^>	^_> ^_- ^_< <_- ^_< -_^ ^_> ^_- -_< ^_> ^_> -_> -_< -_- ^_< <_< ^_> ^_^ ^_> -_> ^_> ^_- -_< -_- ^_< >_^ ^_> <_^ -_< -_- ^_< >_< ^_< <_^ ^_< -_> ^_< <_> ^_< >_< ^_< -_^ ^_< >_^ ^_< ^_^
13:04	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	right out of a japanese anime
13:04	\|-\|	^_^ changed nick to Spcomb
13:05	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	is that a new programming language?
13:05	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	masterbrainfuck?
13:05	<Spcomb>	nope, it's just an encoding
13:05	<Spcomb>	kirby4
13:05	<Spcomb>	you could use it to encode source code if you like
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13:12	<hylje>	n
13:12	<hylje>	o
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13:44	<UndernotBuilder>	a question: will be someday the configure patches window's options be moved to options and difficulty ones?
13:46	<UndernotBuilder>	and another question: newcargos can do something without newindustries?
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13:49	<Zuu>	UndernotBuilder: newcargos don't do much without newindustries. But if there is something little it can do I'm unsure.
13:49	<UndernotBuilder>	modify acceptance of industries require newindustries right?
13:50	<Zuu>	I am not aware of any details of newcargo, newhouses, newindustries.. just have seen some discussions around here.. :)
13:50	<@Belugas>	UndernotBuilder , yes
13:51	<@Belugas>	acceptance mods requires newindustries
13:51	<@Belugas>	unless you cahnge the code and recompile
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13:52	<UndernotBuilder>	so newcargos is almost useless now right?
13:52	<UndernotBuilder>	well, until newindustries
13:52	<@Belugas>	almost...
13:52	<@Belugas>	yes
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13:53	<@Belugas>	some features might use it, like planeset will use the translation table (or something)
13:53	<@Belugas>	but basically, it was a preparation work for newindustries
13:54	<@Belugas>	in my view, anyway...
13:55	<@Belugas>	UndernotBuilder, look in table/build_industry.t, array _industry_specs for acceptance
13:57	<peter1138>	yes
13:58	<peter1138>	it works, but you cannot do anything with it
14:06	<UndernotBuilder>	if newindustries branch is playable maybe I compile and play it
14:08	<@Belugas>	there is no branch yet,
14:08	<@Belugas>	and the actual code that i have does not yet work
14:08	<@Belugas>	sorry
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14:10	<@Belugas>	hell... i can't even do a screenshot!
14:11	<@Belugas>	graphics are not yet loaded
14:11	<@Belugas>	well..
14:11	<@Belugas>	yes they are, but not linked
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14:19	[~]	peter1138 ponders stealing it ;p
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14:30	<@Belugas>	ukrsi obsession!
14:30	<@Belugas>	hehe :)
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14:31	<peter1138>	woo, generic text support
14:31	<peter1138>	though probably slow
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14:47	<Wolf01>	why the autorail doesn't anymore highlight with red the impossible combinations?
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14:50	<Sionide>	sentance formatting correction:
14:50	<Sionide>	why doesn't the autorail highlight impossible combinations with red anymore?
14:50	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	"sentence"
14:50	<Sionide>	d'oh!
14:51	<Sionide>	caught out at my own game
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14:51	<yeti_>	can i use multiple layers of combo-presignals?
14:51	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	depends on what you want to do
14:52	<peter1138>	yes
14:53	<Wolf01>	thank you Sionide :P
14:53	<Wolf01>	programmable signals!!!
14:53	<Sionide>	Wolf01, heh no problem, dunno the actual answer to your question though, maybe there's an option for it now or some such?
14:54	<Wolf01>	i think it was disabled when steep slopes were added
14:54	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	i did never notice that, and steep slopes is ages ago
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14:57	<Wolf01>	!commit "steep slopes"
14:57	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	i don't think that'll work :p
14:58	<Wolf01>	i noticed it
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15:15	<Wolf01>	http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=362866497&size=o XDDDDD
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15:20	<CIA-2>	OpenTTD: belugas * r9721 /trunk/src/ (industry.h newgrf.cpp smallmap_gui.cpp):
15:20	<CIA-2>	OpenTTD: -Codechange: -Codechange: Cleanup of industry_cmd (Step-12). Dynamically build the legends (name and color) for industries in the smallmap_gui.
15:20	<CIA-2>	OpenTTD: All the tiny fonts industry names should be removed from language files soon.
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16:14	<Wolf01>	night
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16:22	<peter1138>	can we do this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfoTVvhiGzE
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16:33	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	looks fun :)
16:34	<dihedral>	night guys
16:34	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	problem is, if you have locks with slowly changing water height, you have to know in advance, from which side the ship will arrive
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16:35	<Eddi\|zuHause2>	or you will have to force the ship to wait
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16:53	<peter1138>	Eddi\|zuHause2, yeah
16:55	<ln->	or make it circle around the whole map
16:55	<ln->	a waiting pattern..
16:56	<SpComb>	spin around in circles
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16:59	<SpComb>	what the heck do they do to that one red ship right after dawn? Oo
17:00	<SpComb>	they keep it against the middle wall on the locks, and then turn it around and park it on the edge?
17:02	<peter1138>	dunno
17:03	[~]	peter1138 investigates his 'nightly' directory
17:03	<peter1138>	oh dear
17:03	<peter1138>	it's still c
17:03	<SpComb>	ooh, the good stuff?
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17:04	<Ailure>	[00:00][00:00] <Ailure> http://194.47.44.201/imageMacros/1170672919214.png
17:04	<Ailure>	[00:01][00:01] <Ailure> One days i'm way too bored
17:04	<Ailure>	[00:01][00:01] <Ailure> I go and spoof this in openTTD
17:04	<Ailure>	!logs
17:04	<SpComb>	Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd
17:04	<peter1138>	cheers for that
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18:26	[~]	BeSiKTaS hi
18:28	<Rubidium>	hi
18:31	[~]	BeSiKTaS türk yokmu burda (;
18:32	<Rubidium>	that sounds like nonsense to me
18:32	<Digitalfox[Home]>	English please
18:33	<BeSiKTaS>	Ok ~ ne baarýon :(
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19:58	<@Belugas>	video watching is addictive...
19:58	<@Belugas>	nor much room for some productive work :S
20:07	<Digitalfox[Home]>	Yeah, i'm watching all seasons of "the pretender"
20:08	<Digitalfox[Home]>	just two more episodes to conclude for seasons, in just 1 week
20:08	<Digitalfox[Home]>	*four
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20:08	<Digitalfox[Home]>	And a lot of poirot's tv series lately
20:10	<@Belugas>	tube maniac :P
20:10	<@Belugas>	you shold learn C++!!!!
20:12	<Digitalfox[Home]>	i know, but....
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21:28	<CIA-2>	OpenTTD: belugas * r9722 /trunk/src/town_cmd.cpp:
21:28	<CIA-2>	OpenTTD: -Documentation: Document some functions of town_cmd.cpp. Loosely based on work from TheJosh
21:28	<CIA-2>	OpenTTD: More to come.
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