TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#openttd:2007:04:07

---	Log	opened Sat Apr 07 00:00:56 2007
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02:38	<Wolf01>	hello
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02:48	<@peter1138>	err
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02:59	<Wolf01>	peter1138, i have a patch for the transparency gui which fixes also the hotkeys which seem broken: http://wolf01.game-host.org/OTTD_related/patches/transparency_options_gui_9570_patch.diff
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07:24	<MeusH>	hello
07:25	<Wolf01>	hi
07:25	[~]	ln- pours 150 litres of water on MeusH
07:26	<MeusH>	woo hooo
07:26	<MeusH>	thanks :)
07:26	[~]	MeusH drinks
07:26	<MeusH>	ln-, is it today when you pour water on everybody? :)
07:27	<ln->	it's easter time, i don't remember what day exactly it should be.
07:29	<MeusH>	we do it on monday
07:29	<MeusH>	ln-, do you have slopes?
07:29	<MeusH>	so that one can skii or do snowboarding?
07:29	<@Belugas>	[23:07][23:07] <HMage> Belugas: oh wow. Must be a costly thing :) <-- that is the REAL price of your negative cost aircraft...
07:30	<ln->	there isn't any snow left.
07:30	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	finland? i don't think they have mountains ;)
07:31	<ln->	a mountain is not a requirement.
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07:31	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	how would you have significant slopes without mountains?
07:36	<ln->	der Fj{ä,e}ll
07:37	<ln->	die ~s
07:40	<MeusH>	ln-, that's beautiful :)
07:41	<@DorpsGek>	bark bark bark woef woef grrrrr
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07:52	<valhallasw>	btw TrueBrain my problem disappeared spontaneously... aka it works but backtracing is hellishly slow with a full chessboard
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08:19	<Wolf01>	Brianetta, your dedicated server can run also under windows? is difficult to use?
08:23	<valhallasw>	you mean the autopilot?
08:24	<Wolf01>	ehm, yes
08:24	<valhallasw>	in theory it should
08:24	<valhallasw>	but dos consoles are evil
08:25	<valhallasw>	expect exists for windows
08:25	<+glx>	Wolf01: first step is to convert openttd.exe to console app
08:25	<+glx>	using convert.exe (available in autopilot thread on forums)
08:26	<+glx>	you also need to install ActiveTcl
08:28	<+glx>	and tcl-udp from http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=75201&package_id=75629&release_id=426243
08:29	<Wolf01>	mmm seem to much work for me
08:29	<Wolf01>	*too
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08:41	<Wolf01>	too bad, i get a message like "cannot initialize server"
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09:11	<MeusH>	cya
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10:05	<valhallasw>	I have a feeling the realistic loading algorithm has been improved
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10:32	<TrueBrain>	I feel like kicking someone... anyone feels like being kicked? :p
10:32	<@DorpsGek>	yawn
10:34	<TrueBrain>	boring people
10:34	<PeCet>	Hi
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10:35	<TrueBrain>	hi PeCet
10:36	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	i'd have viewed that as a "yes, i am" ;)
10:37	<TrueBrain>	Eddi\|zuHause3: it in fact went through my head, but in general it is a bad idea to kick users without them understanding that I am just an idiot :p
10:37	<PeCet>	whatever
10:38	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	i totally understand that you are an idiot :p
10:38	<TrueBrain>	Good, now we established that...
10:38	<TrueBrain>	@kick Eddi\|zuHause3 WHIIIIIIIIIIiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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10:38	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	good ;)
10:38	[~]	TrueBrain hugs Eddi\|zuHause3, you are very kind :)
10:38	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	you feel better now? ;)
10:39	<TrueBrain>	yup! :)
10:39	<TrueBrain>	I needed it :)
10:39	<TrueBrain>	I think every person should have some power from time to tmie, to feel good
10:39	<TrueBrain>	I am thinking about making it a law
10:40	<TrueBrain>	Why is there so little music on music channels..... :(
10:40	<Eddi\|zuHause3>	i'm gonna go make my own music :)
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10:41	<TrueBrain>	Have fun :)
10:42	<TrueBrain>	welcome setrodox
10:42	<setrodox>	hi TrueBrain
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10:51	<Ammler>	TrueBrain: Im looking for the logs of this (and #openttdcoop), where can I find them?
10:52	<HMage>	Belugas: better that cost, than profit from buying stuff
10:53	<TrueBrain>	!logs
10:53	<SpComb>	Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd
10:53	<Ammler>	!logs
10:53	<SpComb>	Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd
10:54	<Ammler>	Not available for #openttdcoop?
10:54	<TrueBrain>	I doubt SpComb is there, so I guess not :)
10:54	<TrueBrain>	_42_ doesn't have his logs public
10:54	<Ammler>	ah, ok, thought cause of !stats
10:55	<TrueBrain>	might make it public some day....
10:55	<Ammler>	np, just good to know
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11:20	<TrueBrain>	lalala
11:21	<Wolf01>	bored?
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11:22	<TrueBrain>	yup!
11:23	<Wolf01>	me too
11:23	<TrueBrain>	too bad for you :p
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11:25	<Wolf01>	not so bad, i can always play C&C3 :P
11:26	<TrueBrain>	C&C3 sucks :p
11:27	[~]	Cipri liked C&C3. Untill I got SupCom, that is.
11:28	<Digitalfox[Work]>	C&C3 is great, but right now i'm on a 2 Week open savegame, so CC must wait
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12:01	<Brianetta>	Wolf01: autopilot runs under Windows just fine. openttd doesn't talk to autopilot, though, unless you modify it.
12:01	<Brianetta>	All the info is on the thread in the forum.
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12:02	<Brianetta>	glx: tcludp isn't needed for any version of autopilot that I wrote.
12:03	<+glx>	why I needed it then /:
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12:03	<Brianetta>	You needed mysqltcl
12:03	<Brianetta>	and tcllib for IRC
12:04	<+glx>	oh it was for udp_query.tcl :)
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12:43	<UndernotBuilder>	quick poll - which feature is the most wanted for you?
12:43	<Wolf01>	all
12:43	<Noldo>	irc is not good for polling
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12:44	<hylje>	custom bridgeheads
12:46	<UndernotBuilder>	for me newcargos/newindustries
12:48	<Brianetta>	Destination
12:49	<Brianetta>	oh, and new signals
12:49	<Brianetta>	Probabyl the signals, mostly
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12:50	<kitro>	hihi
12:50	<kitro>	where can i download older versions of openttd, the specific server i wanna play on still uses 048
12:53	<+glx>	kitro: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=103924&package_id=111717
12:53	<kitro>	thanks glc
12:53	<kitro>	glx
12:53	<kitro>	much appreciated
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13:05	<Thomas[NL]>	hmm can't seem to find what depw.grf is and where to download. found it in this list: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=571895#571895
13:06	<Thomas[NL]>	you know what it is, where to find it?
13:10	<UndernotBuilder>	a question: can I create newgrfs of rezised blender created graphics for using them on 32bpp branch?
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13:34	<Peakki>	hi! i built something too fancy when starting and now i can't afford to buy engines. how do i kill my company to start a new one?
13:34	<hylje>	on multiplayer, just quit and create another company
13:34	<hylje>	on sp, start another game
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13:36	<Peakki>	hmm. it's multiplayer. but just leaving the game won't delete the company, will it? there are max number of companies running so i can't create a new one
13:37	<hylje>	it wont delete right away
13:38	<Peakki>	how long does it take?
13:38	<Wolf01>	the number specified in the cfg for autoclean is game months or play hours?
13:38	<hylje>	dunno. as long as it's negative in profit and monies
13:39	<Peakki>	ou well. guess i'll just join another server. thanks
13:39	<Wolf01>	you can rejoin your company
13:40	<Peakki>	what would i do? :S
13:41	<Wolf01>	after connected to the server, select the company you wnat and then use the join company button
13:42	<Peakki>	but my company has no money to do anything productive
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13:43	<Yogibear>	heya
13:43	<Wolf01>	and you can't take a loan?
13:43	<Peakki>	helo
13:43	<Peakki>	i already took max loan
13:43	<Yogibear>	question, how do set that there arent any trees on a dedicated server in the .cfg file ?
13:44	<Wolf01>	what do you mean Yogibear?
13:44	<Wolf01>	invisible trees instead of transparent?
13:44	<Yogibear>	well that would work too
13:45	<Yogibear>	but i was more like saying actually not having any trees :p
13:45	<Wolf01>	is really difficult
13:45	<Wolf01>	i don't know the exact option for the terrain generator
13:45	<Yogibear>	does it only look at that 5 options when it generates a map ?
13:48	<Yogibear>	what do you mean by invisible trees ?
13:48	<Yogibear>	i just spotted the option in the patches
13:49	<Wolf01>	you can totally hide the trees instead of making them transparent
13:49	<Yogibear>	ah, i see
13:49	<Yogibear>	this is nice ye
13:49	<Yogibear>	:)
13:49	<Yogibear>	i'd rather have them ALWAYS insivisble tho ;)
13:49	<Yogibear>	or just not there heh.
13:50	<Wolf01>	and soon, i hope, also invisible houses, by player requests
13:50	<Yogibear>	can u load a custom scenario ?
13:51	<Yogibear>	or thats just the same as loading a save game
13:51	<Wolf01>	i don't know
13:56	<boekabart>	Yogibear: You know that a land without trees won't be able to provide the people in it with furniture. Plus, you'll get landslides all the time
14:00	<Yogibear>	the forests can stay, just not the seperate trees
14:00	<Yogibear>	and disasters are OFF, so no worries about landslides :D
14:00	<Yogibear>	your go ;)
14:00	<hylje>	besides there's no landslide disasters yet
14:05	<Wolf01>	it should be :D
14:26	<ln->	http://www.army.mod.uk/gutersloh/new_arrivals_info/phrases.htm
14:33	<Ailure>	heh
14:33	<Ailure>	didn't I suggest landslide disaster?
14:33	<Ailure>	also
14:34	<Ailure>	I just got a oil rig on land
14:34	<Ailure>	in a recent multiplayer game xD
14:34	<Ailure>	makes a saveame for future
14:34	<hylje>	yeah
14:34	<hylje>	we got a couple of those in our coop game
14:34	<Ailure>	ah
14:34	<Ailure>	heh
14:35	<Ailure>	knwon bug then
14:35	<Ailure>	good as it would be awkard to send the file due to the situation I am in now :p
14:36	<hylje>	:o
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14:55	<Thomas[NL]>	yay TTRSv3.02 has been released :P
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15:17	<Digitalfox[Home]>	Starnge using last nightly and TTRS 3.02 the tubular bridges, only 1 of the 3 uses new grafics the other 2 use old graficas and original road..
15:17	<Digitalfox[Home]>	*Strange
15:18	<Digitalfox[Home]>	Don't if this is expected or bug of TTRS or from openttd..
15:18	<Digitalfox[Home]>	*know
15:21	<CIA-2>	OpenTTD: miham * r9571 /trunk/src/lang/ (6 files): (log message trimmed)
15:21	<CIA-2>	OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2007-04-07 22:18:15
15:21	<CIA-2>	OpenTTD: danish - 15 fixed by MiR (15)
15:21	<CIA-2>	OpenTTD: galician - 14 fixed by Condex (14)
15:21	<CIA-2>	OpenTTD: portuguese - 6 fixed by izhirahider (6)
15:21	<CIA-2>	OpenTTD: russian - 10 fixed by HMage (10)
15:21	<CIA-2>	OpenTTD: simplified_chinese - 9 fixed by Fishingsnow (9)
15:26	<CIA-2>	OpenTTD: miham * r9572 /trunk/src/lang/galician.txt: [Translations] -Fix: (r9571) strange problem fixed in galician language header
15:27	<Ailure>	[22:25][22:25] <Jesh-Away> I was gonna spectate openTTD but buying ice cream is more important
15:27	<Ailure>	[22:26][22:26] <Ailure> openTTD goes efore everything
15:27	<Ailure>	[22:26][22:26] <Ailure> even life
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15:35	<Digitalfox[Home]>	peter1138: Does openttd fully support newbridges? Or just a part? It seems some bridges from TTRS3 don't show up for construction..
15:39	<Thomas[NL]>	which ones don't?
15:41	<Digitalfox[Home]>	http://www.tt-forums.net/files/bridges_338.png I don't have all this bridges
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15:53	<Thomas[NL]>	in the bridge-build menu they still loop like standard ttd-bridges
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17:04	<Cipri>	Whoever made the new transparancy patches in the nightlies, you rock.
17:07	<Wolf01>	thank you :)
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17:08	<Cipri>	Just a small glitch with elrails and that though. Where should I report that?
17:09	<+glx>	it's not the latest version of Wolf01 patch
17:09	<Wolf01>	tell me, maybe i already fixed it, i'm waiting for the patch
17:09	<Wolf01>	*for the patch to be applied
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17:10	<Cipri>	The wires above elrails turn invisible when stations are turned off, and the poles holding the wires turn invisible when buildings are turned off.
17:10	<Wolf01>	yes, that is wanted
17:10	<Wolf01>	uhm, wait
17:12	<Wolf01>	ok, i understood something weird, maibe i'm tired
17:12	<Cipri>	You know how elrails have normal rails, then there's a pole next to it, and there are electric wires hanging btween those poles.
17:12	<Wolf01>	i made catenary being transparent when hiding player buildings, so you can see better the junctions
17:13	<Wolf01>	oh yes, now i understand
17:13	<Wolf01>	with the button you make only catenary transparent
17:14	<Cipri>	Catenary == wires?
17:14	<+glx>	yes
17:14	<Wolf01>	ehm, yes wires
17:14	<Cipri>	I guess it can make sense to hide just the wires and not the poles. SO you can still see what are electric rails and what not, yet have a lot clearer view...
17:15	<Wolf01>	yes will be fixed with the next patch
17:16	<Wolf01>	the patch will bring also new featurettes like hotkeys and code optimization
17:17	<Cipri>	THanks ^.^
17:19	<Wolf01>	and the most important thing: the station sign transparency is not more toggled with X, but only with the hotkey or the button
17:19	<Wolf01>	have you already tried the memorization of the transparencies?
17:20	<Cipri>	How you select a few transparancies, and then toggle between all visible and just those few selected with X?
17:20	<Cipri>	I loved that feature most of all! ^.^
17:20	<Wolf01>	i like it too
17:21	<Cipri>	Fnally, no more trees :D
17:21	<Wolf01>	but all the other things visible
17:21	<Wolf01>	:P
17:21	<Cipri>	Exactly :D
17:24	<Wolf01>	uhm, another news which will come with the patch is invisible buildings, very useful in big cities to see all the tiles without the shadow of the big buildings
17:28	<Wolf01>	ok, that's all folks, night all
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17:30	<CIA-2>	OpenTTD: glx * r9573 /trunk/src/settings.cpp: -Fix: enclose settings names containing spaces (like newgrf paths) with quotes
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18:50	<Kejhic>	Hi, found a small bug in latest nightly, where to report ? there http://bugs.openttd.org/ ?
18:53	<+glx>	yes but first search to see if it is already reported
18:53	<+glx>	btw what is this bug?
18:53	<Kejhic>	Buildings transparency not work,
18:54	<Kejhic>	if it is not feature now :-)
18:54	<Kejhic>	transparency work for stations only
18:54	<+glx>	it's not totally finished I think
18:57	<Kejhic>	i mean in r9570
18:58	<Kejhic>	(see that there are two more rev now)
18:59	<Kejhic>	hmm, it is realy feature, i must read better logs :-)
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21:22	<HMage>	hehe, I found a new bug regarding to 64bit<->32bit money conversions -- if you have more than signed 32bit value of money, you're not allowed to send money to another player, says 'you're not allowed to send loaned money'
21:26	<Tefad>	hmm neat
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