TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#openttd:2007:04:03

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01:43	<boekabart_>	For those who didn't hear yet: today at 12.30 CEST sncf (french railways) will try to break the rail-train speed record of 515.3 km/h, to 560. Live broadcast on sncf.fr .
01:47	<boekabart_>	'In all, the train develops a power of 19.6 megawatts (over 25000 HP)
02:02	<Zuu>	Interesting, though I'll probably be at the dentist then.. :/
02:09	<peter1138>	coo
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03:10	<Wolf01>	hello
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06:15	<boekabart_>	That TGV just went 574 km/h, you could view it Live
06:16	<boekabart_>	574 km per fricking hour.....
06:16	<TheMask96>	damn... they where aiming for 560 ...
06:17	<boekabart_>	almost broke the Japanese MagLev record of 580
06:17	<boekabart_>	They had camera's on bridges, it was amazing how fast that 100 meter train was past
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06:18	<boekabart_>	congrats to them
06:20	<hansen>	i like trains
06:21	<boekabart_>	i like trains that go 574 km/h!
06:21	<hansen>	=D
06:21	<boekabart_>	Official: 574.8 km/h
06:24	<hansen>	^^
06:25	<hylje>	:o
06:25	<hylje>	in other words maglev is obsoleted by conventional rail?
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06:29	<HMage>	!logs
06:29	<SpComb>	Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd
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06:32	<hansen>	i like that log =D
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06:35	<boekabart_>	They use 31 kV rather than 25 kV, and larger wheels, but for the rest it was a normal train and apparently, people were just walking around in it during the record speed, so it was stable enough. Question is whether it's economical though...
06:35	[~]	Tobin waves
06:38	<peter1138>	only 3 cars seems a bit short
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07:04	<Eddi\|zuHause>	such records say nothing, it's just prestige
07:05	<Eddi\|zuHause>	afaik, the german railway decided against such record runs, because it's too costly, and gets no benefits
07:06	<Eddi\|zuHause>	rather we have tracks that can run 300km/h on a regular basis
07:06	<hylje>	record speeds are good for research
07:07	<hylje>	"so this particular type of rail and vehicles can get up to x speed"
07:07	<hylje>	"how can we make it so cheaply?"
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07:23	<boekabart_>	Actually they already run 300 km/h regularly in France, but they want to go up to 360 in the near future. This was a test run in that research project, and of course they do it for the media coverage.
07:27	<peter1138>	bc
07:27	<peter1138>	er
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07:52	<`Alex`>	hi all!
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08:00	<hansen>	gg
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08:04	<@Belugas>	morning (for those on same TZ as me)
08:04	<@Belugas>	good day for the others
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08:53	<Morphy>	sorry !!
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10:52	<Ailure>	mew
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11:12	<CIA-2>	OpenTTD: belugas * r9551 /trunk/src/ (aircraft.h aircraft_cmd.cpp aircraft_gui.cpp): -Documentation: Some more doxygen work
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11:49	<Ailure>	Playing the nightlies is dangerous
11:50	<Ailure>	sooner or later there's a feature in trunk that isn't with the latest stable or RC, and you just can't go back to them. :)
11:50	<Eddi\|zuHause>	you mean like PBS (back in r3xxx)
11:51	<Ailure>	heh
11:51	<Ailure>	I kinda have a hate relationship for PBS though
11:51	<Ailure>	mostly becuse of irrational reasons ;)
11:52	<@Belugas>	trunk is the way to go!
11:52	<Ailure>	Although I wouldn't mind it being put bavck in
11:52	<peter1138>	i'm looking forward to the fabled "default red" signals ;p
11:52	<Ailure>	I wonder if I should make something like Brianetta's server, but for nightlies
11:52	<Ailure>	I see nightly servers, but they all use vanilla TTD grf's D:
11:52	<peter1138>	lies!
11:53	<peter1138>	well, maybe
11:53	<peter1138>	hmm
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11:55	<Ailure>	I probably would use pretty much GRF's as Brianettas server
11:55	<Ailure>	well expect for TTRS3
11:57	<Thomas[NL]>	TTRS3 ftw
11:59	<Ailure>	number of max clients/companies really need to be increased though
11:59	<@Belugas>	ftw?
11:59	<Ailure>	for the in
11:59	<Ailure>	*win
12:00	<Ailure>	but I assume mentioning it is beating a dead horse D:
12:03	<Ailure>	heh
12:03	<Ailure>	I wish I could limit spefic things
12:03	<Ailure>	such as a certain engine or aircraft type
12:04	<Ailure>	I think some games would turn out a bit intresting if you limited the number of huge aircrafts for example
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12:08	<Thomas[NL]>	would it be more off a realistic good-looking rail-building- or a huge map-width network server
12:12	<hylje>	:o
12:13	<hylje>	could be fun to implement vehicle markets too
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12:18	<Ailure>	yeah
12:18	<Ailure>	I had thoughts of a secondary market as well
12:19	<CIA-2>	OpenTTD: belugas * r9552 /trunk/src/ (bridge_map.h console.cpp): -Documentation: Some more doxygen work, adding comments too
12:19	<Ailure>	so when you sell a vehicle, it's not really gone ;)
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12:20	<hylje>	no
12:20	<hylje>	i mean the vehicle factories need to produce the vehicles
12:21	<hylje>	and you buy them in bulk
12:21	<Ailure>	heh well
12:21	<Ailure>	with secondary market I menat somethng like
12:21	<Ailure>	the aging system needs to be redone anywa
12:22	<Ailure>	it makes more sense to take milage into account than number of years old
12:22	<Eddi\|zuHause>	i rather thought about it like this
12:22	<Eddi\|zuHause>	if you buy a vehicle, the price for following vehicles increases
12:22	<Eddi\|zuHause>	over time, the price drops again
12:22	<Ailure>	heh
12:22	<Ailure>	I can expect some popular vehicles raising in price alot during multiplayer games
12:22	<Ailure>	not that i'm against the idea :P
12:22	<Eddi\|zuHause>	the newer the vehicle type is, the pricier it gets
12:23	<hylje>	i'd still have some bulk contracts with that
12:23	<Eddi\|zuHause>	so you'll have to pay some really big money if you want more than two vehicles of a prototype
12:23	<Ailure>	I mena heh
12:23	<Ailure>	in the last game I ran
12:23	<Eddi\|zuHause>	also, the price of the vehicle could vary on the local and global economy (see rebalance branch)
12:24	<Ailure>	it was kinda discouraging seeing a player using only eurostar and Boing 747
12:24	<hylje>	:o
12:24	<hylje>	anyway
12:24	<hylje>	its still cheaper for a large company to buy a load of vehicles in bulk
12:24	<hylje>	irl
12:25	<Ailure>	true true :p
12:25	<Ailure>	Although I admit, that would make the game slightly more complex
12:25	<hylje>	prototypes couldnt be produced in bulk maybe
12:25	<Ailure>	I tend to like, build a train and then clone that train whenever there's a need for more
12:25	<Eddi\|zuHause>	yes, but production capacity has to be simulated somehow
12:25	<Ailure>	The A33 would be like the Wii
12:25	<Ailure>	everyone wants one, but none would be able to get it
12:25	<hylje>	group vehicles by vendor, each vendor can produce only so much stuff
12:25	<Ailure>	or I mean
12:25	<Ailure>	very few
12:25	<Ailure>	;)
12:26	<Eddi\|zuHause>	my friend has a Wii
12:26	<Ailure>	The demand for it is still high
12:26	<Ailure>	I probably would get one if I tried, but I hadn't.
12:26	<Ailure>	Is kinda waiting for summer to come along first.
12:26	<hylje>	ima happy with mah ds
12:26	<Eddi\|zuHause>	i am really not interested in game consoles
12:26	<Ailure>	I have a DS too
12:26	<Eddi\|zuHause>	i never had any
12:27	<hylje>	ds's my first
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12:27	<Ailure>	I don't really consider DS a console <<
12:27	<hylje>	it plays games
12:27	<hylje>	and isnt really a computer or mobile phone
12:27	<hylje>	wtf is it
12:27	<Ailure>	a handheld
12:27	<Ailure>	:)
12:28	<Eddi\|zuHause>	a handheld console...
12:28	<Ailure>	technically it is a computer
12:28	<Ailure>	but so are consoles
12:28	<Eddi\|zuHause>	technically, microwaves are also a computer
12:29	<Ailure>	yes
12:29	<Ailure>	but they aren't microcomputers
12:29	<hylje>	huegcomputers
12:29	<Eddi\|zuHause>	sure they are
12:29	<Eddi\|zuHause>	you don't get to see any not-micro-computers anymore, except in museums
12:30	<Eddi\|zuHause>	and probably less than 1% of all microprocessors are actually PCs, or game consoles, or "handhelds"...
12:31	<Ailure>	I should hack some of thoose devices one of thoose days
12:32	<Eddi\|zuHause>	you probably have more than 100 processors in a modern car
12:32	<Ailure>	although not very powerful ones
12:33	<Ailure>	but they have each their own purpose on the other hand
12:33	<Ailure>	so they don't really need much power
12:33	<hylje>	hack the world
12:33	<hylje>	Eddi\|zuHause: companies in the world still have and make minicomputers and mainframes
12:33	<Ailure>	I admit
12:33	<Ailure>	sometimes I imagine what I could do with nearly infinite computer power ;)
12:34	<Ailure>	brute force would be fun
12:34	<hylje>	solve an infinite loop?
12:34	<Ailure>	hmm
12:34	<Eddi\|zuHause>	hylje: sure, but those "mainframes" consist of microprocessors... they don't use tubes or relais anymore
12:34	<Ailure>	a computer that solves a infinite number of instructions in a second
12:35	<Ailure>	and then get's stuck in a infinite loop
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12:35	<Ailure>	...only the thought gives me headache.
12:35	<Eddi\|zuHause>	where "microprocessor" means "anything remotely resembling an integrated circuit"
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12:35	<Ailure>	Microcomputer seems to refer to anything that is smaller than a wardrobe
12:35	<Ailure>	which is the case for majority of computer today
12:36	<Ailure>	It's a term I rarely see used today, and for a good reason
12:36	<Eddi\|zuHause>	they called that thing in "Lost" also "microcomputer"
12:36	<Eddi\|zuHause>	and it clearly filled the whole room
12:36	<Ailure>	I wouldn't call that a microcomputer
12:36	<Ailure>	heh
12:36	<Ailure>	might been someone getting facts wrong, or having weird logic
12:37	<hylje>	you just Lost -- The Game
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12:43	<Sacro\|Laptop>	turing machine?
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12:48	<dihedral>	i get a segmentation fault after joining my test server running 0.5.1RC2 with no extra patches
12:48	<dihedral>	custom build
12:48	<dihedral>	if anybody would like to try to connect - i would love some ideas
12:48	<dihedral>	on solving this issue
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12:50	<hylje>	:o
12:52	<dihedral>	debug_level 6
12:52	<dihedral>	dbg: [NET][UDP] Queried from 84.57.230.238
12:52	<dihedral>	dbg: [NET] Client connected from 84.57.230.238 on frame 428
12:52	<dihedral>	dbg: [NET] Closed client connection
12:52	<dihedral>	dbg: [NET] Client connected from 84.57.230.238 on frame 503
12:52	<dihedral>	dbg: [Pool] (Savegame) Cleaning pool..
12:52	<dihedral>	dbg: [Pool] (Savegame) Increasing size of pool to 131072 items (131072 bytes)
12:52	<dihedral>	dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk MAPS
12:52	<dihedral>	dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk MAPT
12:52	<dihedral>	dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk MAPO
12:52	<dihedral>	dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk MAP2
12:52	<dihedral>	dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk M3LO
12:52	<dihedral>	dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk M3HI
12:52	<dihedral>	dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk MAP5
12:52	<dihedral>	dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk MAPE
12:52	<dihedral>	dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk NAME
12:53	<dihedral>	dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk DATE
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12:53	<dihedral>	dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk VIEW
12:53	<dihedral>	dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk CHTS
12:53	<dihedral>	dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk OPTS
12:53	<dihedral>	dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk PATS
12:53	<dihedral>	dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk VEHS
12:53	<dihedral>	dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk CHKP
12:53	<dihedral>	dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk DEPT
12:53	<dihedral>	dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk ORDR
12:53	<dihedral>	dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk INDY
12:53	<dihedral>	dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk SUBS
12:53	<hylje>	..
12:53	<dihedral>	dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk ECMY
12:53	<dihedral>	dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk ENGN
12:53	<dihedral>	dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk ENGS
12:53	<dihedral>	dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk ERNW
12:53	<hylje>	what?
12:53	<dihedral>	dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk CITY
12:53	<dihedral>	dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk SIGN
12:53	<dihedral>	dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk STNS
12:53	<dihedral>	dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk ROAD
12:53	<dihedral>	dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk PLYR
12:53	<dihedral>	dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk ANIT
12:53	<dihedral>	dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk NGRF
12:53	<dihedral>	dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk PRIC
12:53	<dihedral>	dbg: [Sl] Saving chunk CAPR
12:53	<dihedral>	dbg: [Pool] (Savegame) Cleaning pool..
12:53	<+glx>	just paste the end
12:53	<dihedral>	*** dihedral has joined the game
12:53	<dihedral>	*** Game paused (incoming client)
12:53	<dihedral>	Segmentation fault
12:53	<dihedral>	that is the console output
12:53	<dihedral>	Segmentation fault
12:53	<dihedral>	:-)
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12:53	<hylje>	that was redundant
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12:54	<dihedral>	what do you want me to post?
12:55	<dihedral>	i cannot post anything other than what i have provided
12:55	<Sionide>	use a pastebin ffs... basic netiquette
12:55	<Sionide>	:)
12:55	<dihedral>	it's an svn checkout from tags/0.5.1-RC2
12:55	<+glx>	all the stuff you pasted is just showing that the game was saved correctly, you joined then segfault
12:56	<dihedral>	didnt even get to unpausint...
12:56	<dihedral>	on the client side of things i get to see the map for a jiffy
12:57	<+glx>	something bad happened but I don't know what and why
12:57	<dihedral>	you wanna try to connect
12:57	<dihedral>	openttd.dihedral.de:27020
12:57	<dihedral>	pw is test
13:06	<dihedral>	found the issue
13:06	<dihedral>	:-D
13:06	<dihedral>	it is the resolution
13:07	<dihedral>	of the dedicated server
13:07	<+glx>	oh :)
13:07	<dihedral>	in 0.5.0 i am able to set a resolution of 1,1
13:07	<dihedral>	in 0.5.1RC2 this causes the seg fault
13:07	<dihedral>	which is not so nice...
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13:08	<dihedral>	as it means that if i run 0.5.1RC2 instead of my 0.5.0 games it will use a lot more cpu
13:08	<dihedral>	because i have to set a heigher res
13:08	<+glx>	hmm I though this was fixed
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13:09	<dihedral>	like i said: it wokes for 0.5.0-final
13:09	<peter1138>	dihedral: not a lot more
13:09	<+glx>	no 0.5.0 could crash if the resolution was smaller than chat box
13:09	<peter1138>	10x10 should work
13:09	<peter1138>	there is that
13:10	<peter1138>	also, scrollto 0 will reduce cpu usage a lot
13:10	<dihedral>	i never had 050 crash
13:10	<dihedral>	uh - sweet
13:10	<dihedral>	good to know that one :-)
13:10	<dihedral>	i shall try it
13:10	<peter1138>	though players will join at the top of the map
13:11	<knome>	peter1138, that's not a big issue
13:11	<dihedral>	would be nice though if this resolution thing could be fixed... again :-)
13:12	[~]	peter1138 considers going to fix his bike
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14:04	<@Belugas>	dihedral, will get my expected answer before the end of the week, so deadline of monday still holds on
14:05	<dihedral>	sugar
14:06	<knome>	no, salt
14:06	<dihedral>	smart "donkey"
14:06	<dihedral>	thanks Belugas for doing that :-)
14:07	<knome>	darts monkey
14:08	<@Belugas>	it's for the commun good :D
14:08	<knome>	you're a communist? ;)
14:10	<@Belugas>	strange and unrealted question...
14:11	<knome>	well if you do things for the commun, doesn't that make you a communist, hehe
14:11	<@Belugas>	nope
14:11	<knome>	how sad ;(
14:12	<@Belugas>	that makes me part of a community
14:12	<@Belugas>	not quite the same
14:12	<knome>	hehe yes of course
14:12	<knome>	just trying to cheer myself up
14:13	<@Belugas>	Cheers!
14:13	<@Belugas>	we are tuesday!
14:13	<@Belugas>	Whouhou!!!
14:13	<knome>	yeah, but it doesn't make it any better, i've got a miserable flu
14:13	<@Belugas>	and i did not break the nighlies!
14:13	<knome>	yayy, that's great
14:14	<@Belugas>	recipe against flu : hot rhum and wine, a bit of honey, lots of sleep
14:14	<@Belugas>	don't touch your keyboard
14:14	<@Belugas>	rest!
14:14	<knome>	might help ;)
14:14	<@Belugas>	WILL help
14:14	<knome>	but i'm an addict
14:14	<knome>	i live for the internet
14:14	<knome>	;)
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14:18	<@Belugas>	well.. nothing i can do about addiction.... i'm on the same kind of boat, just not the same color ;)
14:18	<knome>	sounds.. erm... good
14:18	<dihedral>	i am addicted to openttd
14:18	<knome>	heh, that's just a small part of it
14:18	<dihedral>	though for some reason i think i am in the wrong place if i wanted to find help
14:19	<CIA-2>	OpenTTD: rubidium * r9553 /trunk/src/ (namegen.h roadveh.h table/namegen.h table/roadveh.h): -Documentation: fix ambiguity issue.
14:19	<knome>	?)
14:19	<dihedral>	i dont feel like mentioning all my addictinos
14:19	<dihedral>	:-P
14:19	<knome>	well, i think that's enought that i work as a webdesigner and my office is not more than 1 meter away from my bed
14:20	<dihedral>	well - i am doing development
14:20	<dihedral>	love fiddeling around with linux stuff
14:20	<knome>	me too
14:20	<dihedral>	and have no letteres left on my keyboard :-P
14:20	<knome>	but that's not what i'm best in
14:20	<knome>	sounds familiar
14:21	<dihedral>	no - i am best in eating and sleeping and spending a lot of time on the loo :-)
14:21	<Zuu>	dihedral: Time to buy a kinesis countered keyboard? :p
14:21	<knome>	heh
14:21	<dihedral>	lol
14:22	<Zuu>	Unless it is what you allready got. :)
14:22	<knome>	zuu, they aren't much of use with high typing rates?
14:22	<dihedral>	perhaps an interface that clips right in to my mind
14:22	<Zuu>	knome: I like mine. But I'm not a ultra-fast typist.
14:22	<dihedral>	thinking where the mous is supposed to go
14:22	<dihedral>	could also be fun in openttd :-D
14:22	<Zuu>	But I don't understand why they would not be good to type ultra-fast on.
14:23	<dihedral>	once you type ultra fast you will know
14:23	<knome>	i've heard that they don't get all the "pushes"
14:23	<dihedral>	though if you start off with that keyboard you might never type ultra fast even if you think you do
14:23	<knome>	and you don't even need to type _that_ fast
14:23	<knome>	true
14:23	<knome>	a flat keyboard is the best i've used
14:23	<knome>	and using
14:24	<dihedral>	hehe - that laser thingy
14:24	<dihedral>	you will never be able to get rid of the letters
14:24	<dihedral>	you just start wearing off the wood of your desk
14:24	<knome>	;)
14:24	<knome>	not that flat
14:24	<dihedral>	oh :-(
14:25	<knome>	they're useless with fast typing rates also
14:25	<knome>	*high
14:25	<dihedral>	of course - they are way too flat
14:25	<knome>	yep
14:25	<dihedral>	another down side would be that you will never be able to put a keyboard on your lap if you need to
14:26	<knome>	yyyep
14:26	<knome>	they need to develop a kb similar to an optical mouse
14:26	<dihedral>	i just want to think it all
14:26	<knome>	even better
14:27	<dihedral>	or perhaps have a big big touch screen
14:27	<knome>	but what about telepathy
14:28	<dihedral>	i am not allowed to show my abilities in public
14:28	<knome>	why's that
14:29	<Eddi\|zuHause>	<dihedral> though for some reason i think i am in the wrong place if i wanted to find help <- wrong, we can so totally help you to play openttd ;)
14:30	<dihedral>	:-)
14:30	<dihedral>	knome: usually it scares the others
14:30	<dihedral>	Eddi\|zuHause: you can help me by adding more features to the dedicated server console :-)
14:30	<knome>	i've heard from some people that playing openttd a whole day isn't healthy anymore, they must be wrong?
14:31	<knome>	dihedral, i was starting to think the worst ;)
14:31	<dihedral>	it gets healthy as soon as your skin turnes grey
14:31	<knome>	dihedral, of you being a closed source developer ;)
14:31	<Eddi\|zuHause>	the longest i had openttd running was like 3 weeks ;)
14:31	<knome>	but did you _play_ it for 3 weeks ;)
14:32	<knome>	once we set up a server
14:32	<knome>	and i addicted
14:32	<Eddi\|zuHause>	well, i spend 95% of the time in pause modus, even if i play
14:32	<dihedral>	i setup 2
14:32	<knome>	i played some 30 hours straight, building a train network _around the world_
14:32	<knome>	with a map of 512x512, if i remember right
14:33	<dihedral>	my servers only run 1024x1024
14:33	<dihedral>	but then i have no bandwidth limit
14:33	<knome>	:)
14:34	<dihedral>	which i actually love telling everyone
14:34	<knome>	i bet!
14:34	<dihedral>	100Mbit :-D
14:34	<dihedral>	flatrate
14:34	<Zuu>	only 100/10 here ;)
14:34	<knome>	8/1 :((
14:34	<@Rubidium>	poor Zuu
14:34	<Zuu>	also flatrate to student pricing. :)
14:35	<@Rubidium>	very poor knome...
14:35	<dihedral>	uh - i pay nothing
14:35	<knome>	i know
14:35	<knome>	shitty finland
14:35	<knome>	you have to pay _a lot_ to get and upload rate higher than 1 mbit
14:36	<Eddi\|zuHause>	i have like 384kbit/64kbit
14:36	<Zuu>	I pay ~10-12 euro / month.
14:36	[~]	peter1138 has 8/0.5 at home and 2/2+2/2 at work. pompiedom
14:36	<knome>	i think this costs something like 50e/mth
14:36	<Eddi\|zuHause>	i'm not sure about the exact values
14:36	<dihedral>	i pay nothing for a full ethernet 100Mbit :-)
14:36	<dihedral>	and then it is a fiber connection across the road (8 core) to our provider
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14:37	<knome>	and you have some free space in your apartment?
14:37	<dihedral>	it's at work
14:37	<dihedral>	i am allowed to add my own servers there
14:38	<knome>	hehe, it's good for me, too
14:38	<dihedral>	other wise it would be a lovely 180€/month
14:38	<@Rubidium>	dihedral: that ain't fair... I was talking about my conenction at home
14:38	<Zuu>	Yea :)
14:38	<knome>	i need only a little space
14:38	<knome>	maybe 1m x 1m
14:38	<hylje>	knome? the very thought confuses me ;)
14:38	<knome>	hylje, ?
14:39	<hylje>	the name in itself
14:39	<Eddi\|zuHause>	yeah, i was wondering that myself ;)(
14:39	<knome>	hylje, which name
14:39	<knome>	x)
14:39	<dihedral>	hehe
14:39	<hylje>	(x
14:39	<knome>	umm.. thought
14:40	<knome>	i really should sleep
14:40	<dihedral>	Rubidium: my connection at home is a very sad 2 mbit adsl
14:40	<@Rubidium>	poor dihedral ;)
14:40	<dihedral>	yeah
14:40	<dihedral>	but then ssh into my server and i am happy
14:41	<Eddi\|zuHause>	i still "win" ;)
14:41	<@Rubidium>	Eddi\|zuHause: why?
14:41	<knome>	he has the longest nick
14:41	<knome>	;)
14:41	<Zuu>	Rubidium: slowest connection?
14:41	<Eddi\|zuHause>	besides that, nobody here said he had a slower connection than i do ;)
14:42	<knome>	what about a gprs-connection, do they count?
14:42	<dihedral>	nope
14:42	<knome>	that's a shame
14:42	<dihedral>	but still - i have a 4U server
14:42	<dihedral>	on a 100mbit connection
14:42	<dihedral>	you cannot beat that can you Rubidium ?
14:43	<Zuu>	dihedral: I have a Toshiba Satelite 1400 server ;)
14:43	<Zuu>	(read 4.5 year old laptop)
14:43	<@Rubidium>	I have a Pentium 550 @ 100 mbit
14:43	<@Rubidium>	(at home)
14:44	<knome>	was that it for the big connection talk
14:44	<dihedral>	i have a amd 2000+ as a server with 1GB RAM
14:45	<dihedral>	and that is also my hardware
14:45	<knome>	lol
14:45	<dihedral>	a mac power book G4 12" laptop
14:45	<dihedral>	and an amd 2400+ as a workstation
14:45	<knome>	we have a 700mhz with 512ram!
14:45	<knome>	but it cost us nothing
14:46	<dihedral>	+ a lovely little neo witha 1GHz via but fanless and a 1GB CF card instead of a hdd
14:46	<Zuu>	My laptop (celeron 1.33Ghz had 768 MB)
14:46	<Zuu>	laptop RAM = expensive :)
14:46	<knome>	it is
14:46	<knome>	memory = expensive
14:46	<Zuu>	it was even more when I bough the 512 module 3.5 years ago :)
14:47	<Zuu>	Saidly a few sectors broke a few moths ago :(
14:47	<hylje>	:<
14:47	<knome>	i'm running amd athlon64 x2 4600+
14:47	<Eddi\|zuHause>	i have a 486 SX 25 laptop with 8MB ;)
14:47	<knome>	Eddi\|zuHause, me too! but it isn't in use
14:47	<knome>	i also have a 2,8M floppy drive
14:47	<Eddi\|zuHause>	i had it running a few weeks ago
14:47	<knome>	...but no 2,8M floppies
14:47	<Eddi\|zuHause>	but the battery is dead
14:48	<knome>	yeah
14:48	<Eddi\|zuHause>	i have never seen one of those
14:48	<knome>	it's sweet
14:48	<knome>	and must've cost a lot
14:48	<Eddi\|zuHause>	i've got a 100MB ZIP drive though
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14:49	<knome>	i've never had a zip drive
14:49	<Zuu>	100MB Mac Zip <3
14:49	<knome>	neither have i had a game console!
14:49	<hylje>	wtf was the point of zip drives
14:49	<knome>	bigger "floppies" than floppies? :)
14:49	<Zuu>	Our familys mac had 600 MB hard drive at that time
14:49	<knome>	and to have something to throw out of the window when angry
14:49	<@Rubidium>	why would anybody want to have floppies, cds, zip drives, dvds, hd-dvds, bluray disks, usb memory, flash memory and the lot?
14:50	<knome>	dunno
14:50	<knome>	that's weird ;)
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14:51	<dihedral>	cd-r's were not as available at that time
14:52	<dihedral>	i has a mac in 1989
14:52	<dihedral>	Macintosh SE/30
14:52	<dihedral>	40MB scsi disk
14:52	<knome>	i've never had a mac either
14:53	<dihedral>	in england i had about 10 computers in the room i rented :-)
14:53	<knome>	heh
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14:53	<dihedral>	nothing below 900MHz
14:53	<knome>	lol
14:54	<dihedral>	2 of which were laptops :-D
14:54	<knome>	only 2 years ago i had nothing above 700mhz
14:54	<dihedral>	as long as nobody calles me a nerd that is fine
14:54	<knome>	nerd
14:54	<dihedral>	not cool knome
14:54	<knome>	hehe
14:54	<dihedral>	:-P
14:54	<knome>	but now i've got some great stuff
14:54	<dihedral>	i want a core2duo
14:55	<knome>	buy then
14:55	<dihedral>	and a projector
14:55	<Eddi\|zuHause>	who is the bigger nerd, the nerd or the nerd calling him nerd ;p
14:55	<dihedral>	hehe
14:55	<knome>	Eddi\|zuHause, me! me! me!
14:55	<dihedral>	late call Eddi\|zuHause
14:55	[~]	knome volunteers
14:55	[~]	peter1138 pats his trusty athlon 800
14:55	<dihedral>	rofl
14:55	<dihedral>	oh - cute
14:55	<dihedral>	now that is adorable
14:57	<hylje>	:o
14:57	[~]	knome is adorable
14:58	<knome>	...and silence
14:58	<knome>	i knew it would work
14:59	<hylje>	jumping into conclusions are we?
14:59	<knome>	always
15:00	<dihedral>	the adorable part was meant for peter1138
15:00	<knome>