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| 06:10 | <Dibblah> | Are there delay issues with the mailing lists? |
| 06:11 | <Dibblah> | I'm not seeing Janne's (I assume) mail announcing the QT4 merge... |
| 06:11 | <janneg> | that's progress, the ComboBoxSetting is not anymore emitting valueChanged if the changed by arrow keys |
| 06:12 | <janneg> | using the mouse is fine |
| 06:12 | <janneg> | Dibblah: it arraived here almost instantly |
| 06:13 | <janneg> | 1 Minute roundtrip time |
| 06:13 | <Dibblah> | Odd. I see stuartm's, but not yours. |
| 06:15 | <janneg> | Dibblah: odd. which mail from stuartm are you referring to? the latest I have is from 10 o'clock yesterday |
| 06:15 | <Dibblah> | <200803161012.01035.stuart@tase.co.uk> |
| 06:16 | <Dibblah> | 3 minutes ago. |
| 06:16 | <Dibblah> | [mythtv][mythtv] [ANNOUNCE] MythUI Port |
| 06:16 | <janneg> | I have them now |
| 06:17 | <Dibblah> | Do you have the message ID of your post available? |
| 06:18 | <janneg> | sure, one moment |
| 06:18 | <janneg> | Message-Id: <200803160245.28970.janne-mythtv@grunau.be> |
| 06:19 | <Dibblah> | Odd. Something's dropping mail. |
| 06:20 | <Dibblah> | Anyway - Nice work on the porting - Looks like a large effort :) |
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| 06:22 | <janneg> | the porting itself is not the problem, just the all the little things which break :( |
| 06:33 | <gbee> | Dibblah: [mythtv] [ANNOUNCE] merging Qt4 branch to trunk |
| 06:34 | <gbee> | there are 3 replies to it as well, (two of them my fault) |
| 06:36 | <gbee> | check that you didn't add a filter way back to drop those emails from people requesting a QT4 port ;) |
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| 07:14 | <janneg> | lol, porting to qt4 will allow us to compile with gcc5 |
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| 07:34 | <gbee> | janneg: you haven't ported the plugins yet? |
| 07:36 | <janneg> | gbee: no and I won't start soon. the setting problem is nastier than thought |
| 07:37 | <gbee> | ok, just want to avoid conflicts with mythui changes so let me know when you start and I'll make sure I've committed everything |
| 07:39 | <janneg> | the mythui changes haven't caused a conflict so far |
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| 07:45 | <gbee> | they are more likely to in the plugins because I'm adding/removing a lot of lines - I don't expect changes to libmythui to be a big problem |
| 07:45 | <gbee> | e.g. Just converting one mythgallery screen - 9 files changed, 467 insertions(+), 1032 deletions(-) |
| 07:51 | <janneg> | I don't expect to start converting the plugins today |
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| 08:04 | * | gbee installs the QT4 libs in anticipation |
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| 09:00 | <janneg> | making progress, the card setup screen is now updated on keypresses |
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| 11:10 | <janneg> | found the reason for the missaved settings, AutoIncrementDBSetting doesn't work |
| 11:11 | <janneg> | the reason seems to be lastInsertId() |
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| 11:31 | <janneg> | yes, problem solved for now |
| 11:32 | <janneg> | has someone already added the extra verbose level? |
| 11:36 | <janneg> | no, doesn't look like someone did and we are sparse on available bits in the enum |
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| 12:11 | <Chutt> | janneg, settings turning out to be the tricky bit? |
| 12:12 | <Chutt> | (the gui settings widgets, that is) |
| 12:13 | <janneg> | yes, lots of subtle bugs and me not being familiar with the code and qt widget |
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| 12:13 | <Chutt> | yeah |
| 12:13 | <Chutt> | that's the point i gave up at when i looked at converting a few years ago =) |
| 12:14 | <Chutt> | figured that if the mythui port came first, then it'd be easier |
| 12:17 | <janneg> | probably, I'm not sure if the ComboBox would be fixed if I hadn't accidentially clicked on it |
| 12:17 | <Chutt> | heh |
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| 12:19 | <janneg> | remaining issues are the totally broken OSD (no text) and the missing text with opengl painter |
| 12:20 | <Chutt> | text in opengl is a bit weird |
| 12:21 | <Chutt> | i'm surprised that the OSD is busted, though |
| 12:21 | <Chutt> | that doesn't use Qt |
| 12:21 | <Chutt> | well, at least, not much |
| 12:21 | <Chutt> | how much work do you expect the plugins to be? |
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| 12:24 | <janneg> | there was a symbol conflict between qt and X11, some qt header define Status and X11 has a typedef Status. I got it compiling with including qt first |
| 12:26 | <janneg> | I hope the plugins will be straight forward |
| 12:27 | <janneg> | gbee: any pending changes for the plugins? |
| 12:28 | <gbee> | janneg: yes, want me to commit them? |
| 12:29 | <gbee> | just mythgallery so if you want to start somewhere else |
| 12:31 | <Chutt> | gbee, when do you plan on doing the settings ui? |
| 12:31 | <gbee> | mythgallery, on the surface is working with mythui but marking images doesn't work yet and rotating them isn't right either |
| 12:31 | <janneg> | it was the other way round. X11 defines Status as int and qt has several enum Status |
| 12:32 | <gbee> | Chutt: I'd hoped that I could leave it until last, but if it's going to help with the QT port then I can make it a top priority |
| 12:32 | <Chutt> | gbee, it'd at least make it less complex |
| 12:32 | <Chutt> | though it sounds like janneg has most of it sorted by now |
| 12:33 | <janneg> | I think if there are remaining issues I'll find them faster |
| 12:37 | <gbee> | It wouldn't be an overnight job, more like a month if I had help, I'm a couple of widgets short and I'd rather start from scratch on the settings wizard |
| 12:38 | <gbee> | doesn't have to be done the way I'm thinking of course |
| 12:53 | <janneg> | even the osd containers are wrong, they are all painted from the origin |
| 12:57 | <gbee> | one of the ideas I toyed with was defining settings in XML instead of hardcoding them, IMHO this would have a few benefits - less code replication, easier maintanance, users could customise settings pages etc |
| 12:57 | <danielk22> | janne you can put the X11 headers inside a X11 name space if you need to avoid name conflicts.. |
| 12:58 | <Chutt> | gbee, translations are harder |
| 12:58 | <Chutt> | and there really isn't that much replication now |
| 12:58 | <gbee> | I've very quickly knocked up the sort of thing I'm talking about but I've only given some brief thought - http://pastebin.ca/945002 |
| 12:59 | <janneg> | danielk22: including qt first should be fine since the qt enums are in the class namespace |
| 12:59 | <gbee> | Chutt: yeah, I didn't consider translations |
| 13:00 | <gbee> | oh well, doesn't matter too much and it's not directly tied to mythui in any way, so it could always be done in the future |
| 13:01 | <gbee> | translations might be handled through a themestrings type tool |
| 13:01 | <laga> | danielk22: i've fiddled with configure today to add an option to use glXGetProcAddressARB. how can i see which function is actually used? i don't have a box with the older nvidia drivers handy.. |
| 13:01 | <laga> | danielk22: http://www.pastebin.ca/945010 that's why i have right now |
| 13:01 | <gbee> | noticed that one of the things I left out of that mockup were label and help text attributes |
| 13:02 | <gbee> | but I'll leave the idea for the moment |
| 13:05 | <gbee> | janneg: do you want me to look at porting the settings to mythui? |
| 13:08 | <janneg> | no, I don't think it's important now. I should have the breakage under control |
| 13:09 | <janneg> | a second pair of eyes on the osd problem would help more. I've started converting the plugins instead |
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| 13:31 | <gbee> | Chutt: any better ideas for setting all buttons in a list checked/unchecked than what I've done here? http://pastebin.ca/945044 |
| 13:31 | <gbee> | I don't really like exposing CheckState, but my brain is failing me right now :) |
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| 13:35 | <danielk22> | laga: I thing you will need to create a function definition for glXGetProcAddressARB for when it is not present in the header... |
| 13:35 | <gbee> | reordered the definitions of MythListButton and MythListButtonItem instead |
| 13:45 | <laga> | danielk22: well, it's only supposed to be used by people who know what they're doing (eg maintainers).. do i understand correctly: you're worried about compile failures when the headers are missing glXGetProcAddressARB? |
| 13:46 | <danielk22> | yup |
| 13:48 | <laga> | danielk22: i think i can add that, but i'd rather pass the responsibility to whoever uses --enable-glx-procaddrarb ;) |
| 13:49 | <danielk22> | well if the point is to add convenience for packagers I think adding the definition is good, since the ./configure option won't be in the help text I think few end users will be bitten.. |
| 13:51 | <laga> | that's the point, yes.. as you said, it's better to just fix the glx headers for the other users |
| 13:53 | <danielk22> | but it's correct not to have glXGetProcAddressARB in newer glx.h headers.. it's just incorrect to have glXGetProcAddress in the headers for old drivers that don't support the function.. |
| 13:54 | <laga> | sure. so newer glx.h headers are already fine, older headers need to be fixed by the software vendor and package maintainers use --enable-glx-procaddrarb to make sure MythTV works on older and newer drivers |
| 13:56 | <danielk22> | yep |
| 14:09 | <laga> | danielk22: ok, i'll remove --enable-glx-procaddrarb from the help text and add that patch to trac then.. |
| 14:10 | <gbee> | janneg: committed mythgallery if you want to resync the branch |
| 14:13 | <janneg> | gbee: I'm converting the plugins one by one, you have some time for mythgallery |
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| 14:14 | <gbee> | janneg: ok, well I'm unlikely to change much tonight - there are two issues that I'll try and fix, but they are unlikely to cause conflicts |
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| 14:29 | <sphery> | gbee: Be careful about redesigning the settings stuff too nicely or someone will make a curses setup program and a web-based setup program and ... and they'll expect them to be committed to trunk for you to maintain forever... :) |
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| 14:30 | <gbee> | heh |
| 14:30 | <anykey_> | gbee: being able to store some settings in a flatfile would be nice though ;) |
| 14:31 | <sphery> | a flatfile that can be used with LOAD DATA INFILE works... :) |
| 14:31 | <gbee> | anykey_: well I'm not proposing storing settings in a flatfile, just the definition of settings objects |
| 14:33 | <gbee> | but incidently, the idea sphery mentioned was another reason for going to the XML format - it allows html based setup in addition to mythui |
| 14:33 | <jams> | sphery- thats actually how I store the various settings profiles |
| 14:34 | <sphery> | gbee: Should I not ask about why the menu in MythGallery is always shown? Perhaps that's a better post-mythui-conversion question. |
| 14:34 | <sphery> | jams: For a distro's "startup defaults" or for your own systems? |
| 14:34 | <gbee> | sphery: I don't really like it that way, but I'm just porting not redesigning ;) |
| 14:34 | <sphery> | OK. Later. :) |
| 14:34 | <jams> | i allow user to save their settings at various points in time, and also copy settings from other frontend |
| 14:35 | <jams> | it's also used for the default settings. |
| 14:35 | <sphery> | cool |
| 14:35 | <gbee> | sphery: it would be trivial to fix, I mean no more than 10/15 minutes work and maybe I'll use the mythui port as an excuse to change it ;) |
| 14:36 | <jams> | gbee- know of any easy way to poll the display size with myth? |
| 14:36 | <sphery> | I shouldn't be requesting that you do it as you're getting some much more important stuff done, so feel free to ignore me. |
| 14:36 | <jams> | thinking of adding that to the "About" screen |
| 14:38 | <gbee> | jams: MythContext::GetScreenSettings() might be what you are after, anything in MythContext is globally available - gContext->GetScreenSettings() |
| 14:38 | <jams> | thank you |
| 14:38 | <jams> | i'm tired of opening a console to find that info. |
| 14:39 | <gbee> | see mythappearance for an example of it's usage |
| 14:55 | <gbee> | wonder what that qbuttongroup.h header is doing in mythcontrols.cpp |
| 14:56 | <gbee> | looks redundant to me |
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| 15:36 | <janneg> | is there any compelling reason not to die in configure if mmx is not enabled on x86? |
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| 16:03 | <gbee> | looking at the changes required for QT4 in mythnews I wonder if it wouldn't have been much easier if ported to mythui first |
| 16:03 | <hachi> | I'm changing the `description` column on recordedprograms, but the changes aren't being reflected in the interface. Why table/column is actually used by mythtv for actual display of this data? |
| 16:04 | <hachi> | s/Why/What |
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| 16:44 | <janneg> | gbee: mythnews conversion was simple, most did qt3to4. mythphone is nasty |
| 16:45 | <janneg> | btw why aren't the plugins using VERBOSE? |
| 16:45 | <gbee> | janneg: many of the plugins were copied from an original plugin which was probably written before the macro existed |
| 16:46 | <gbee> | some of the plugins use VERBOSE, mainly the ones I've worked on |
| 16:46 | <gbee> | but there are still some old, unfixed instances of cerr |
| 16:46 | <gbee> | & cout |
| 16:47 | <gbee> | there is a high level of duplication in the plugins, mythflix for example is a complete copy of mythnews and still includes code that it doesn't actually use |
| 16:53 | * | gbee goes in search of the qt compat headers |
| 16:57 | <janneg> | gbee: they are probably in another packet |
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| 16:59 | <gbee> | janneg: yeah, it actually looks like I forgot to install the -devel package on this machine earlier ... I was installing it on three machines at the same time and missed one :) |
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| 17:37 | <janneg> | gallery, music, weather, video and zoneminder left |
| 17:38 | <gbee> | janneg: I've finished with mythgallery for tonight, I don't have any patches which will conflict if you want to do that next |
| 17:40 | <Anduin> | I can do video if you like. |
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| 17:52 | <janneg> | Anduin: you can do if you want, I expect it to be much more pleasant than mythphone |
| 17:52 | <janneg> | mythweather was just fine |
| 17:54 | <Anduin> | I'll do it, it will make me prepared for the switch anyway. |
| 17:55 | <janneg> | Anduin: ok I commit the qt3to4 changes in a minute |
| 17:58 | <gbee> | not too sure how I'm going to tackle the folders in mythvideo/mythgallery without specific hacks which is what I was trying to get away from with mythui :( |
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| 18:04 | <janneg> | Anduin: if you have questions just ask |
| 18:04 | <Anduin> | janneg: will do, still sorting out doing the Qt4 build... looks like it is going |
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| 18:05 | <janneg> | most annoying conversions are caused by QStrings not implicitly casted to char* anymore |
| 18:06 | <janneg> | the best action for cout/cerr is to convert to VERBOSE |
| 18:06 | <gbee> | ouch :( |
| 18:06 | <Anduin> | Yeah, mythvideo should have fewer of those (I hate that QString ever did that), and MV was converted to VERBOSE some time ago. |
| 18:07 | <janneg> | and replace if (qstring) with if (!qstring.isEmpty()) |
| 18:08 | <gbee> | I've been converting to isEmpty() for a while |
| 18:21 | <janneg> | 3 plugins left, mythzoneminder was also pleasant |
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| 18:35 | <gbee> | janneg: are you still planning to merge back to trunk in the next 24 hours? I don't want to continue working if it's likely to cause conflicts, I'd rather wait if it's not going to be too long |
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| 18:39 | <janneg> | gbee: I want but I doubt I can fix the OSD issue until tomorrow |
| 18:40 | <gbee> | maybe I should take a look at that |
| 18:49 | <MrGandalf> | janneg: how far along in total is the qt4 port? |
| 18:50 | <janneg> | MrGandalf: until completion or until merge? |
| 18:50 | <MrGandalf> | completion - all code ported |
| 18:51 | <janneg> | maybe 10% |
| 18:51 | <MrGandalf> | wow |
| 18:51 | <MrGandalf> | that's a lot of work |
| 18:52 | <MrGandalf> | I did a port from qt3 to qt4 once and it took me a bit longer for the same amount of code and I used all the conversion classes. |
| 18:52 | <MrGandalf> | but I think my project used a lot more higher level widgets than Myth uses. |
| 18:55 | <janneg> | the conversion classes don't count, the port to qt4 + qt3support is ~95% finished |
| 18:55 | <MrGandalf> | I see. But you plan to dump the conversion classes though. |
| 18:56 | <MrGandalf> | it's been years since the kde guys started their port. |
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| 19:03 | <janneg> | it's not that bad, grep finds ~1000 hits for Q3 in mythtv sources |
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| 19:04 | <gbee> | am I right that many of the conversion classes are used "just in case" but that most instances can be replaced with the QT4 versions without side effects? |
| 19:08 | <gbee> | maybe not, those classes don't seem to exist in qt4 ... guess I need to read the QT4 porting guide |
| 19:08 | <Anduin> | Hmm, I like not converting to char * by default, but tagging the char * constructor explicit sucks a bit. |
| 19:12 | * | GreyFoxx goes looking for the QT4 porting guide |
| 19:13 | <gbee> | http://doc.trolltech.com/4.3/porting4.html |
| 19:13 | <GreyFoxx> | sweet |
| 19:14 | <gbee> | Looking at it, it's more of a reference manual than something you would read cover to cover :) |
| 19:14 | <GreyFoxx> | next to install a backend and frontend in a vm for this as my wife would lynch me if I did it on the main systems :) |
| 19:14 | <gbee> | but there are detailed guides on which classes are deprecated and what can be used instead, including differences and improvements |
| 19:17 | <gbee> | it's a little depressing though that just as I'd got used to QT3 I now have to forget some of that and start again |
| 19:17 | <GreyFoxx> | heheh |
| 19:24 | <gbee> | QDeepCopy is no longer required? |
| 19:30 | <danielk22> | gbee: QString is still not threadsafe in Qt4 |
| 19:30 | <gbee> | but QDeepCopy has been removed ... so what are the options? |
| 19:33 | <gbee> | porting guide says they are threadsafe, so is the lack of thread safety a bug? |
| 19:34 | <danielk22> | gbee: after the Qt4 port I'll write a MString that is safe... |
| 19:35 | <gbee> | danielk22: ok |
| 19:35 | <danielk22> | From Qt docs: "Note: All the functions in this class are reentrant, except ascii(), latin1(), utf8(), and local8Bit()." |
| 19:36 | <danielk22> | In Qt4 it is safe to look at the value of a string in two or more threads so long as no one uses those four functions and no one ever modifies a string. |
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| 19:37 | <gbee> | ok, thanks for clarifying |
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| 20:07 | <janneg> | bah, I'm exhausted, mythgallery not finished. going to bed now. good night |
| 20:12 | <gbee> | g'night janneg |
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| 20:20 | <gbee> | janneg: shell script version stuff is failing here, grep: "/home/gbee/Development/myth/branches/mythtv-qt4"/libs/libmyth/mythcontext.h: No such file or directory |
| 20:20 | <gbee> | the " in the middle is the problem |
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| 20:48 | <gbee> | there is a test in configure for libqt-mt but it doesn't exist with qt4? At least I can't find any reference to it and it's definately not installed with any QT4 packages on Mandriva |
| 20:51 | <kormoc> | gbee, http://doc.trolltech.com/4.0/qt4-threads.html "Earlier versions of Qt offered an option to build the library without thread support. In Qt 4, threads are always enabled." |
| 20:51 | <gbee> | kormoc: yeah, that's what I thought - so I'm just wondering why no-one noticed that the test for libqt-mt was still in configure :) |
| 20:52 | <gbee> | guess they still had both qt3 and qt4 devel libs installed and referenced |
| 20:52 | <kormoc> | Yeah, tis da strange |
| 20:54 | <gbee> | I'm removing it from configure |
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| 21:16 | <gbee> | for some reason I can't stop it use the qt3 qmake - QTDIR is correct but the tests at the very end of configure just aren't even being used |
| 21:18 | <gbee> | guess it will have to wait till tomorrow |
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| 22:10 | <kormoc> | Anyone know offhand what oldprogram is used for? |
| 22:11 | <GreyFoxx> | recording history |
| 22:12 | <kormoc> | I thought that was oldrecorded? |
| 22:12 | <GreyFoxx> | doh, you are right |
| 22:12 | <GreyFoxx> | I was thinking of oldrecorded; |
| 22:12 | <kormoc> | oldprogram has oldtitle and airdate, that's it |
| 22:12 | <kormoc> | and it is being updated by something but I can't see what it provides that other tables don't |
| 22:13 | <GreyFoxx> | yeah I see data in mine as close as 2am this morning and as old as May 1st 2007 |
| 22:14 | <GreyFoxx> | but its definately not show I've watched or recorded |
| 22:15 | <kormoc> | it seems to be 1 entry for every show that's shown up in my program table and the last seen airdate |
| 22:18 | <kormoc> | yeah, that's exactly what it does, and it's used for stuff like the "What's New" list and the like |
| 22:18 | <kormoc> | I would imagine there should be a better place for that to live tho... |
| 22:19 | <kormoc> | or a better name... |
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| 22:48 | <Captain_Murdoch> | oldprogram should contain the program table info for programs that you've recorded. |
| 22:48 | <Captain_Murdoch> | just like oldrecorded does for recorded |
| 22:49 | <Captain_Murdoch> | hmm, I thought it did. |
| 22:51 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I thought we kept that info around in an old* table, but it's 'recordedprogram' taht I was thinking of. |
| 22:51 | * | Captain_Murdoch tells himself to just shut up and go back to watching TV. |
| 22:54 | <kormoc> | Captain_Murdoch, heh, it's only used in 4 places in the code, mainly just for 'this is a new (never seen before) show' query |
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| 23:09 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I regularly use that screen. :) |
| 23:10 | <Captain_Murdoch> | I have Myth setup to record all new shows, but only on certain networks, so I goto that screen often and do a quick visual scan to see if there is anything interesting on other networks. |
| 23:11 | <GreyFoxx> | I dont think I've ever seen that screen |
| 23:11 | <GreyFoxx> | but that would be an interesting recording rule |
| 23:13 | <sphery> | kormoc: You're right. oldprogram is a 320-day rolling view of program titles that have been seen in the listings. It's only used by What's New. See http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/57656#57656 |
| 23:13 | <sphery> | kormoc: Also--since this is probably more of interest to you-- http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/commits/183796#183796 |
| 23:16 | <kormoc> | sphery, thanks, I'll peer at them |
| 23:19 | <kormoc> | ahh, yeah, I saw that in my grepping |
| 23:20 | <kormoc> | it's just a weird name as it didn't really have the data I expected given the other old tables and what they hold |
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