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| 01:57 | <ronpaul> | help...I can't figure out how to get MythTV to work |
| 01:58 | <ronpaul> | I have it installed but all it gives me is this settings thing where it asks for language, then a server |
| 01:58 | <ronpaul> | how do I get video from my tv/tuner card/ |
| 02:01 | <hads> | ronpaul: Wrong channel, see the topic. |
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| 06:19 | * | stuarta tries to find if OSX has an off64_t |
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| 06:22 | <stuarta> | nope. looks like off_t is 64bit under OSX anyway. |
| 06:22 | <stuarta> | don't think they have a lseek64 either |
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| 08:42 | <gbee> | hurrah - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/01/28/virgin_l_upgrade/ |
| 08:43 | <anykey_> | gbee: how much do they charge for that? |
| 08:45 | <gbee> | depends on the package you take as they also provide phone and cable tv services |
| 08:46 | <anykey_> | we now have 25mbit/s here, for about - I think - 30 pounds/month |
| 08:46 | <gbee> | 11.50/month if you take their phone package at the same time |
| 08:47 | <anykey_> | including the phone package? |
| 08:47 | <gbee> | they offer a higher tier package at 20mbit, but I never felt that extra speed was worth it |
| 08:47 | <gbee> | anykey_: another 11.00 for the phone |
| 08:48 | <gbee> | I'm currently paying about £35 a month for a phone, broadband and tv bundle |
| 08:49 | <justinh> | same as us I think. only basic TV, mid broadband |
| 08:50 | <gbee> | yeah, went for their tv/phone/broadband bundle but opted to pay a little extra each month for the middle tier broadband |
| 08:55 | <justinh> | jees users of the 20Mb service have been complaining about the usage cap. 3GB a day! |
| 08:56 | <gbee> | that's insane |
| 08:56 | <gbee> | even more when you consider that the usage cap isn't a hard limit, but simply the point at which your connection gets throttled down for a few hours. |
| 08:57 | <justinh> | aye. whining *****s |
| 08:58 | <clever> | ticket 4544 opened |
| 08:58 | <justinh> | think I know why the reloadtheme caused a segfault last night. when you said the main app you meant the main myth app not main.cpp |
| 08:59 | <gbee> | actually I didn't, but I'm struggling to figure out how it should be done |
| 09:00 | <justinh> | it's not as simple as simulating a killall thingy is it? |
| 09:00 | <gbee> | can't be put in mythplugin_run because the mythui dialog doesn't block execution, so reloadtheme would be called immediately after the screen is created |
| 09:03 | <justinh> | you know if a flipbook animation is going in a menu screen, then you open a new mythui window - does that mean the animation is still going on for the screen below? |
| 09:03 | <gbee> | no, not unless the screen is visible (or that part of it) is visible |
| 09:04 | <justinh> | phew :) just checking |
| 09:05 | <justinh> | sounds too much of a copout to say "muh you need to restart the frontend after changing the size" |
| 09:05 | <justinh> | then again it isn't the only thing a frontend restart is needed for |
| 09:06 | <gbee> | yeah, there is a way around it but I'm just not clever enough to see it atm |
| 09:06 | <gbee> | I have got an idea, one I had last night, it's just a little 'messy' |
| 09:06 | <justinh> | doesn't matter where you are in the program when you issue that killall signal to reload the theme - didn't see it segfault |
| 09:06 | <justinh> | so what's the difference? |
| 09:07 | <GreyFoxx> | when are you seeing the segfault? In mythappearance ? |
| 09:07 | <justinh> | in mythappearance, calling reloadtheme |
| 09:08 | <gbee> | killall signal is different to the jumppoint, it's the jumppoint, not the reload which causes the problem |
| 09:08 | * | GreyFoxx updates his work box |
| 09:09 | <justinh> | GreyFoxx: right now the jump point is commented out |
| 09:09 | <justinh> | it's there in slotDoSaveQuit or somesuch. |
| 09:10 | <GreyFoxx> | k, once this compile finishes I'll reenable it |
| 09:11 | <justinh> | MythAppearance::updateSettings() is where one of them it is |
| 09:14 | <GreyFoxx> | ok looks like the version I have here is suffering from it already without me having to update :) |
| 09:18 | <GreyFoxx> | m_topleftarrow->SetPosition(QPoint(m_topleftarrow_x, m_topleftarrow_y)); |
| 09:18 | <GreyFoxx> | That's what's dying on me |
| 09:18 | <justinh> | wha? |
| 09:18 | <gbee> | without the jumppoint enabled? |
| 09:18 | <GreyFoxx> | using the version I already had 15554 |
| 09:19 | <GreyFoxx> | compiling latest right now |
| 09:19 | <justinh> | should work fine & dandy without the jump point, other than one limitation I already know about |
| 09:19 | <gbee> | I'd be interested in seeing the backtrace |
| 09:20 | <gbee> | there mythui bugs I've not encountered yet |
| 09:20 | <justinh> | it's not complex enough code to fail on anything like that, surely.. |
| 09:20 | <gbee> | (and I've seen a few now) |
| 09:20 | <gbee> | justinh: no, I shouldn't think so |
| 09:20 | <justinh> | maybe if you draw something in an offscreen area it'd be conceivable, sure but that shouldn't happen |
| 09:21 | <GreyFoxx> | sorry I already started the make install and now I see the new one doesn;'t have debug enabled |
| 09:21 | <GreyFoxx> | redoing it again |
| 09:21 | <gbee> | but then I missed the QT painter bugs because I was using the opengl painter instead, so there may be some other variable we've missed which explains this bug |
| 09:21 | <GreyFoxx> | << QT Painter |
| 09:22 | <gbee> | guess I'll wait and see what happens with HEAD since I've fixed two QT related bugs |
| 09:22 | <justinh> | come qt4 will there be much need of the opengl painter? |
| 09:23 | <gbee> | honestly don't know |
| 09:23 | <siXy> | stupid question i know, but i can't find the right source file for the backend status thingy - which plugin is it in? |
| 09:23 | <GreyFoxx> | It's not a plugin |
| 09:24 | <siXy> | ah. that might be it then. thanks |
| 09:24 | <GreyFoxx> | you referring to the webstatus page or the xml one? |
| 09:24 | <siXy> | the one in the FE |
| 09:25 | <GreyFoxx> | ahhh |
| 09:25 | <siXy> | hmm statusbox.cpp looks promising |
| 09:25 | <gbee> | siXy: that's the one |
| 09:25 | <siXy> | thanks |
| 09:26 | <justinh> | statusbox.cpp ? |
| 09:26 | <justinh> | doh beaten to it |
| 09:26 | <siXy> | :P |
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| 09:39 | <GreyFoxx> | ok, same line is still crapping out on me |
| 09:41 | <GreyFoxx> | www.phaze.org/gdb.txt is the bt |
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| 09:43 | <GreyFoxx> | Though I should mention that I am using xinerama on a dual monitor machine |
| 09:44 | <justinh> | ah |
| 09:44 | <gbee> | GreyFoxx: that might explain it ... somehow |
| 09:44 | <gbee> | using a dual monitor setup too, though not with xinerama |
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| 09:44 | <GreyFoxx> | I have 1 nvidia card and 1 ati in here :) |
| 09:44 | <justinh> | considered that use card for about a millisecond, then thought "bah" :) |
| 09:45 | <GreyFoxx> | hehe |
| 09:45 | <justinh> | s/card/case |
| 09:45 | <GreyFoxx> | 2008-01-28 10:42:08.866 Enabled verbose msgs: important general |
| 09:45 | <GreyFoxx> | DisplaResX: Unable to XRRgetScreenInfo |
| 09:45 | <GreyFoxx> | DisplaResX: Unable to XRRgetScreenInfo |
| 09:45 | <GreyFoxx> | 2008-01-28 10:42:09.269 Total desktop dim: 2304x1024, with 2 screen[s]. |
| 09:45 | <GreyFoxx> | hmmm just noticed that in my stratup log |
| 09:45 | <gbee> | 2008-01-28 10:52:58.727 Total desktop dim: 2720x900, with 2 screen[s].2008-01-28 10:52:58.730 Using screen 1, 1440x900 at 0,0 |
| 09:45 | <GreyFoxx> | 2008-01-28 10:42:09.269 Total desktop dim: 2304x1024, with 2 screen[s]. |
| 09:45 | <GreyFoxx> | 2008-01-28 10:42:09.273 Using screen 0, 1280x1024 at 0,0 |
| 09:46 | <Merlin83b2> | Mmm, dual monitors. 2560x1024 here. |
| 09:47 | <gbee> | justinh: you have a clue what's happening? I'm a little baffled |
| 09:47 | <justinh> | I suspect something's gone wrong with m_xsize = GetMythMainWindow()->GetUIScreenRect().width(); |
| 09:48 | <justinh> | GreyFoxx: can you put some VERBOSE in to report m_xsize & m_ysize & see what it reports? should be the size of the myth window |
| 09:49 | <justinh> | though if you're running mythfrontend with a geometry override that won't really work |
| 09:51 | <GreyFoxx> | ok |
| 09:53 | <justinh> | could just have turned this into an external app, save all the bother |
| 09:58 | <GreyFoxx> | http://www.pastebin.ca/876035 |
| 10:00 | <justinh> | just from moving the arrows around? |
| 10:00 | <justinh> | ah right |
| 10:00 | <GreyFoxx> | moving arrows, then menu option to save and quit |
| 10:00 | <justinh> | is the jump point still enabled? |
| 10:00 | <GreyFoxx> | commented out |
| 10:01 | <GreyFoxx> | I haven't touched the code except for the VERBOSE() |
| 10:01 | <justinh> | that mostly should not happen ;) |
| 10:01 | <justinh> | I was playing with it in the qt painter the other night & it was fine as far as segfaults didn't appear |
| 10:01 | <justinh> | single monitor though |
| 10:02 | <justinh> | anyway bang goes the hypothesis that the X&Y size values were out of whack |
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| 10:06 | <justinh> | is there a 'can't fix' tag I can use in trac for when somebody assigns a mythappearance ticket to me? |
| 10:06 | <justinh> | ;) |
| 10:06 | <cromo> | hi. is it possible to watch a channel and listen to some other one at once? this can be useful for watching the sports from some FTA foreign HD channel while still being able to listen to the native commentary from SD channel |
| 10:06 | * | justinh points at the topic |
| 10:07 | <cromo> | arrrr |
| 10:07 | <cromo> | sorry |
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| 10:25 | <GreyFoxx> | What exactly does GetMythMainWindow()->GetMainStack()->PopScreen(); do ? |
| 10:26 | <GreyFoxx> | does it remove a screen from the stack ? |
| 10:28 | <gbee> | GreyFoxx: yeah, asks the screenstack to remove the window then delete it |
| 10:29 | <GreyFoxx> | So in my case, we are removing the window/deleting it, then calling updateScreen which tries to set an image position on that newly deleted screen |
| 10:30 | <GreyFoxx> | commenting that out stopps my segfault |
| 10:30 | <GreyFoxx> | since I can't draw to a deleted screen heh |
| 10:30 | <gbee> | sounds like it then |
| 10:31 | <gbee> | but under what conditions is popscreen being called before updatescreen? |
| 10:31 | <justinh> | slotSaveSettings() |
| 10:31 | <gbee> | ahh - void MythAppearance::slotSaveSettings |
| 10:31 | <gbee> | bugger |
| 10:31 | <GreyFoxx> | yeah |
| 10:31 | <gbee> | delete updatescreen then, since we are exiting and don't need it |
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| 10:32 | <GreyFoxx> | ok, trying with that gone and reload enabled |
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| 10:33 | <GreyFoxx> | woops |
| 10:33 | <GreyFoxx> | err wOOP |
| 10:33 | <GreyFoxx> | it works |
| 10:33 | <justinh> | and now without the jump point commented out? |
| 10:34 | <GreyFoxx> | I already have it uncommented |
| 10:34 | <justinh> | so it's doing the redraw? |
| 10:34 | <GreyFoxx> | and it worked |
| 10:34 | <justinh> | redraw/reload |
| 10:34 | <GreyFoxx> | yup |
| 10:34 | <GreyFoxx> | just doing one lsat test |
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| 10:35 | <justinh> | ffs why didn't I spot the updatescreen? mr face has an appointment with mr hand |
| 10:35 | <GreyFoxx> | it happens :) |
| 10:35 | <GreyFoxx> | you guys have looked over this code before, and I never have |
| 10:35 | <GreyFoxx> | fresh pair of eyes |
| 10:36 | <gbee> | justinh: my fault really |
| 10:37 | <gbee> | just committed the fix along with a couple of minor cleanups |
| 10:37 | <justinh> | I looked in there & thought doh straight away. didn't even think to attach gdb - just assumed that making the jump point was the cause |
| 10:37 | <GreyFoxx> | ok it worked the first couple times. but I just did it again and it crashed again |
| 10:38 | <GreyFoxx> | this time in MythThemedMenuPrivate::ReloadTheme |
| 10:39 | <gbee> | haven't re-enabled reloadtheme just yet, but removed the unneccesary updatescreen() |
| 10:43 | <GreyFoxx> | Ok if I enable the Reload, AND have the PopScreen right after it then I get a segfault |
| 10:43 | <GreyFoxx> | If I comment out PopScreen and leave Reload enabled everything works fine |
| 10:43 | <justinh> | GreyFoxx: I was just about to suggest that |
| 10:43 | <justinh> | maybe the plugin isn't being destroyed in time |
| 10:44 | <justinh> | the reload should take care of that anyway AFAIK |
| 10:44 | <gbee> | GreyFoxx: yeah, that's the original bug and the reason why reloadtheme was disabled in the first place |
| 10:44 | <GreyFoxx> | and what is suppose to be the outcome of slotResetSettings ? Should it be calling ReloadTheme as well? |
| 10:44 | <GreyFoxx> | Cause right now it's doinga PopScreen and not calling Reload |
| 10:44 | <justinh> | GreyFoxx: resets sizes & offsets to 0 & should call reloadtheme |
| 10:45 | <GreyFoxx> | so my DB settings are reset but my screen stays the same |
| 10:45 | <justinh> | that was how it operated pre mythui port |
| 10:45 | <GreyFoxx> | So basically PopScreen needs to be traded with Reload |
| 10:45 | <justinh> | yeah. |
| 10:45 | <gbee> | we still need to pop the screen, unless reload returns to the menu? |
| 10:45 | <justinh> | need to make sure reload is destroying eveything properly |
| 10:46 | <justinh> | sure it goes back to the menu.. |
| 10:46 | <GreyFoxx> | So Save and Quit + Reset call Reload and exit to the Fe menus |
| 10:46 | <justinh> | yeah |
| 10:46 | <GreyFoxx> | ok |
| 10:47 | <gbee> | ok, then replacing popscreen with reloadtheme where we aren't just wanting to exit, should work |
| 10:48 | <justinh> | it worked before :) |
| 10:48 | <GreyFoxx> | yeah |
| 10:48 | <GreyFoxx> | Seems to work properly now for both Save and Reset |
| 10:48 | <justinh> | and as far as I could tell it wasn't causing a memory haemorrage |
| 10:49 | <justinh> | there we were thinking signals needed to be sent hither & thither.. lol |
| 10:50 | <GreyFoxx> | yeah working perfectlly now |
| 10:50 | <GreyFoxx> | heh |
| 10:51 | <justinh> | glad some good has come out of today |
| 10:51 | <gbee> | just checking that calling that jumppoint deletes all the windows in the stack |
| 10:52 | <justinh> | I should stop reading the wiki. man it makes me angry |
| 10:52 | <Cardoe> | hrm.. how come settings.pro for trunk reports it as 0.20.0? |
| 10:54 | <GreyFoxx> | not officially 0.21 yet :) |
| 10:54 | <GreyFoxx> | though I know everyone has referred to trunk as 0.21 for ages now |
| 10:54 | <laga> | i did not |
| 10:54 | <laga> | because it's annoying :) |
| 10:54 | <GreyFoxx> | me either |
| 10:55 | <GreyFoxx> | heh |
| 10:55 | <gbee> | it does, so we're good |
| 10:55 | <GreyFoxx> | so mythappearance is all mythui now ? |
| 10:56 | <justinh> | yep |
| 10:56 | <justinh> | I need to play with it some more, cover up the clock n stuff |
| 10:56 | <justinh> | make a couple of test cards to use as backgrounds |
| 10:56 | <gbee> | Cardoe: generally we only update that library version when we go into feature freeze for the new release - since it's not an official version string, just something used internally it's not that important |
| 10:56 | <Cardoe> | so somewhere between trunk revision 15447 and 15567, make install stopped respecting INSTALL_ROOT |
| 10:57 | <gbee> | GreyFoxx: just theme changes |
| 10:57 | <MrGandalf> | blah |
| 10:59 | <gbee> | of course people still mistakenly use the library version number when asked for the mythtv version, which is why I moved it down the --version output |
| 11:00 | <gbee> | huh, actually someone has bumped the API version so it's just the library name which is still 0.20 |
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| 11:02 | <Cardoe> | gbee: right. the API is renamed but the library name is still old |
| 11:02 | <Cardoe> | that's what I had meant |
| 11:03 | <GreyFoxx> | justinh: heh 1 though, maybe a "Run in a window" toggle in there too ? |
| 11:05 | <gbee> | still not a big deal unless you want to install 0.20 and trunk on the same machine, but like I say it will be changed once we're into the home stretch for 0.21 |
| 11:06 | <justinh> | GreyFoxx: yeah maybe but this is more to augment the existing controls & make it easier for users to compensate for overscan from the comfort of the armchair & not let it take all day |
| 11:07 | <justinh> | still.. could be really handy to have a pluge pattern & some colour tests on there to aid alignment |
| 11:07 | <justinh> | how many mythtv users have incorrectly set contrast/brightness I wonder? |
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| 11:08 | <laga> | justinh: i'm still waiting for burosch to send me some test patterns :/ |
| 11:08 | <Merlin83b2> | Almost all, justinh. |
| 11:08 | <justinh> | not I, not I :) |
| 11:09 | <justinh> | laga: you can leave the testcards up to me if you want. you only really need about 3 |
| 11:09 | <laga> | mine is set correctly, too. at least for video playback. i can't really adjust anything on my tv set |
| 11:09 | <laga> | justinh: since they said they'd send me some for mythbuntu i might as well take those |
| 11:10 | <laga> | they've got a nifty one for overscan |
| 11:10 | <justinh> | they said.. and you said you were still waiting to hear from them |
| 11:12 | <laga> | yup |
| 11:12 | <laga> | suppose they're busy :) |
| 11:12 | <laga> | i've got enough stuff to do that it'll take another 1.5 months before i'll bug them again |
| 11:14 | <justinh> | AFAIK they don't do anything an ordinary joe couldn't do in GIMP |
| 11:14 | <laga> | maybe, but they make a living off it so they must be good at it :) |
| 11:15 | <gbee> | there is a fairly big difference in colour between my two monitors here and I can't decide which one is 'correct' |
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| 11:21 | <Merlin83b2> | The left one. |
| 11:28 | <gbee> | Merlin83b2: thanks, that helps ;) |
| 11:29 | <Merlin83b2> | Anytime :) |
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| 11:41 | <Cardoe> | nigel's not around huh? |
| 11:44 | <Chutt> | nigel doesn't come online |
| 11:52 | <clever> | my bug got fixed:) |
| 11:55 | <stuarta> | good for you :) |
| 11:55 | <clever> | changeset 15638 |
| 12:02 | <sphery> | gbee: If you're looking to clean up some tickets, you could close #4532 as a dup of #4381 . :) Though the reporter hasn't confirmed that the patch on #4381 (or disabling misc status info) fixes the issue, I'm sure it will be fixed when the patch on #4381 is applied. |
| 12:05 | <gbee> | sphery: ok, thanks |
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| 12:07 | <GreyFoxx> | gbee: Where you going to commit that last mythappearance changes to reenable Reload/comment out PopScreen? |
| 12:08 | <GreyFoxx> | or do you have other stuff to do first ? |
| 12:08 | <gbee> | GreyFoxx: yeah, unless you want to do it? Just dealing with a client atm but should be free in 20 minutes |
| 12:08 | <GreyFoxx> | cool, I'll do it |
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| 12:09 | <justinh> | I coulda done it but I'm at work so cannae test it |
| 12:10 | <GreyFoxx> | done |
| 12:10 | <GreyFoxx> | I shoulda asked though if there was a ticket |
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| 12:36 | <justinh> | don't think it'd been reported. surprised it hadn't been tbh |
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| 12:44 | <gbee> | Chutt: any reason to keep the mythui test program around? I'm making some changes which break it (and compilation) |
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| 12:46 | <GreyFoxx> | justinh: I notice it doesn't show up in the classic view |
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| 12:46 | <justinh> | GreyFoxx: it should, but maybe in a different place. |
| 12:46 | <justinh> | I committed a change for it a while back IIRC |
| 12:46 | <GreyFoxx> | hmmm |
| 12:48 | <justinh> | GreyFoxx: should be in themes/classic/main_settings.xml |
| 12:48 | <justinh> | themes/DVR/main_settings.xml |
| 12:48 | <justinh> | and programs/mythfrontend/util_menu.xml |
| 12:49 | <GreyFoxx> | Ahh ok I see it now |
| 12:49 | <GreyFoxx> | I musta been blind |
| 12:50 | <Chutt> | naw, get rid of it |
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| 12:52 | <gbee> | Chutt: ok, cool |
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| 13:07 | <okolsi> | I'll have to re-open #4536.. |
| 13:09 | <gbee> | okolsi: problem is that you referenced the wrong error, it's the zero-byte one not the missing file and the fact that we never update programinfo once we have a copy |
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| 13:10 | <okolsi> | gbee: I was just reporting what "user sees".. two problems.. colour indicating ongoing recording dissapears and fe NEVER recovers.. |
| 13:11 | <okolsi> | you can sit and wait 30min and fe always tells that recording is empty |
| 13:11 | <okolsi> | even when next recording is inserted to list of recordings.... |
| 13:12 | <okolsi> | and all the time it is actually being recorded as it should be |
| 13:17 | <gbee> | okolsi: yeah, like I said it's a real problem, just that Daniel misunderstood |
| 13:18 | <okolsi> | gbee: I'll try to explain it more.. let's see.. |
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| 13:21 | <gbee> | if it doesn't get fixed properly before 0.21, then we'll have to revert the addition of that zero-byte check |
| 13:22 | <okolsi> | I personally don't mind that much.. but I'd like to get Myth as polished as possible.. so that Joe Average would not see these issues when he installs Mythdora or whatever |
| 13:23 | <gbee> | agreed |
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| 13:23 | <gbee> | I just don't have the time to look at fixing it myself |
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| 13:30 | <clever> | okolsi: ive had a similar problem |
| 13:30 | <clever> | okolsi: if i tryed to play something just as it started to record it would complain that its empty |
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| 13:31 | <okolsi> | clever: yeah, exactly that one |
| 13:31 | <clever> | okolsi: and then complain the same thing every time i try until i back out of the recording list and go back in |
| 13:31 | <clever> | feels like its caching the error and then refusing to check again |
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| 14:09 | <okolsi> | out of interest.. anyone remember the ffmpeg revision Myth is currently using? |
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| 14:10 | <janneg> | okolsi: 11051 |
| 14:10 | <stuarta> | evening all |
| 14:11 | <okolsi> | janneg: thanks |
| 14:24 | <MrGandalf> | damn, cpinkham beat me to it.. |
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| 14:30 | <gbee> | http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2008/01/28/nokia_acquires_trolltech/ |
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| 14:39 | <MrGandalf> | hrm |
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| 14:57 | <xris> | gbee: yeah, saw that. could be interesting. I know that nokia has already sponsored a little myth-related development down in brazil for the bossa conference thing that Captain_Murdoch almost got to go to last yar |
| 14:57 | <xris> | year |
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| 15:08 | <gbee> | MrGandalf: think your patch has the edge, though it might still fail due to the speed at which we first update the 'filesize' in the database once a recording has started |
| 15:08 | <gbee> | I'm not certain about that though |
| 15:09 | <MrGandalf> | gbee: I've not tested it.. compile tested only. I just thought having a 15 second timeout made an unnessary assumption. |
| 15:09 | <gbee> | agreed |
| 15:09 | <gbee> | if I had the time I'd dig into the recorders and find out why we are so slow to update that column once we have data going to the file |
| 15:10 | <MrGandalf> | but, it doesn't fully correct the problem. I believe that once it is detected as zero-byte, you have to exit and come back in to get an updated status. I didn't see in the code where that would be true, however |
| 15:10 | <gbee> | then again maybe we need to change the zero-byte check to look at the filesize of the actual recording file, rather than the value in the database |
| 15:11 | <MrGandalf> | gbee: >= PNG minsize or something (I think that |
| 15:11 | <MrGandalf> | 's what the ringbuffer does) |
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| 15:14 | <MrGandalf> | stupid question, does gbee == cpinkham? |
| 15:14 | * | MrGandalf isn't very good with names.. |
| 15:15 | <gbee> | MrGandalf: no, gbee = stuartm, Captain_Murdoch == cpinkham |
| 15:15 | <MrGandalf> | ah |
| 15:15 | * | MrGandalf also gets confused easily |
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| 15:16 | * | stuarta pokes MrGandalf to confuse him some more |
| 15:17 | <MrGandalf> | hey, not funny :) |
| 15:18 | * | MrGandalf doesn't take his confusion lightly |
| 15:18 | <sphery> | gbee: IIRC, I think the filesize is updated late because of the table locking/recording issues caused on some users' (misconfigured? :) systems. Captain_Murdoch would be the guy to talk to, though--he's the one who was working that issue. |
| 15:18 | <gbee> | we need more Stuarts on the team |
| 15:18 | <stuarta> | heh |
| 15:20 | <gbee> | sphery: as I see the issue I'm not sure that's the case, I just believe that since we don't update the filesize constantly (to keep db access overhead to minimum) that we aren't making that first update fast enough |
| 15:20 | <gnome42> | yeah! More Stuarts are good. |
| 15:20 | * | MrGandalf finds it real handy when nicknames == email addy, that's why his email address has nothing to do with his nickname |
| 15:21 | <stuarta> | more gnomes required too |
| 15:21 | <gbee> | but I've only got myself to blame because I chose to use the database value for that check, I could just have easily chosen to look at the actual file |
| 15:21 | <gnome42> | gbee, sphery: I recall some DB contention being the issue that caused that set filesize stuff to be tamed a bit. |
| 15:21 | <MrGandalf> | gbee: assuming it's local |
| 15:22 | <gnome42> | but there was a recent change to the scheduler in that area that might have greatly reduced the problem. |
| 15:22 | <MrGandalf> | maybe there's an easy way to gain access to the RingBuffer and query it |
| 15:22 | <gbee> | MrGandalf: well that's probably why I did it that way in the first place, I really can't remember though |
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| 15:23 | <sphery> | gnome42: Yeah. That's what I was trying to say. |
| 15:23 | <gnome42> | the temp record table scheduler change |
| 15:23 | <MrGandalf> | in any case, it's minor |
| 15:23 | <gbee> | gnome42: I remember it being the seektable, but my memory is no better than MrGandalf's ;) |
| 15:23 | <gnome42> | sphery: yeah, cool. |
| 15:24 | <MrGandalf> | there was a lock issue with the seektable |
| 15:24 | <gnome42> | gbee: Yeah, I'm vague too. :) But contention over the record table during scheduler runs is my guess. |
| 15:24 | <MrGandalf> | but that was split out from the markup table, if I remember correctly |
| 15:25 | <gbee> | MrGandalf: yeah, I did the splitting but at the time it was mostly to speed up accesses to the markup table which were slowed by the sheer size of the seeking stuff |
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| 15:26 | <MrGandalf> | gbee: I see.. I'm thinking about another change then.. ah, it had something to do with filesize and scheduler runs |
| 15:28 | <sphery> | filesize comes into play: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/249416#249416 and Captain_Murdoch's other post that follows (and much more in that thread--but reading it also involves wading through posts from a chronic complainer, which is why I didn't pay enough attention to tell you the whole conclusion). Or, rather than read the whole thread, you could ask Captain_Murdoch . :) |
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| 15:38 | <gbee> | sphery: thanks |
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| 15:58 | <gbee> | janneg: any relation do you think? http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/2008-January/023351.html |
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| 16:17 | <justinh> | oh btw gbee I don't think I got around to telling you about http://www.mythtvthemes.co.uk/images/shinyshiny.png did I? ;) |
| 16:17 | <justinh> | I drew my own DVD cover thingy |
| 16:18 | <gbee> | nice :) |
| 16:18 | <justinh> | obviously just a mockup cos not even mythui can do reflections yet |
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| 16:27 | <xris> | justinh: looks like my vista xp box... |
| 16:27 | <justinh> | xris: I thought vista boxes had more of a corner cutoff |
| 16:28 | <stuarta> | justinh: you given up beer or something? |
| 16:28 | <justinh> | eh? |
| 16:28 | <stuarta> | wonder how you came up with such a thing? |
| 16:28 | <stuarta> | :) |
| 16:28 | <stuarta> | wondering |
| 16:29 | <justinh> | stuarta: traced an effort in that mythxface theme wot nicks liberally from my feem |
| 16:29 | <justinh> | they attribute though, so it's ok by me |
| 16:29 | <xris> | justinh: yeah, one of the corners is a bit rounded... but the plastic is similar |
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| 16:30 | <justinh> | xris: not sure if that's a good or a bad thing |
| 16:30 | <justinh> | I tried it with a hard corner & it just didn't look right |
| 16:31 | <justinh> | gbee: do you think image masking would be easy enough to accomplish? |
| 16:31 | <gbee> | as in? |
| 16:31 | <justinh> | as in XOR a matte shape with an image |
| 16:32 | <justinh> | er.. AND.. I mean.. oops |
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| 16:33 | <gbee> | justinh: hmm, probably not ultra hard |
| 16:33 | <justinh> | you could have different shape blackholes, more or less |
| 16:33 | <gbee> | depending on the effect you want and the space available it may just be easier to produce the same effect by obscuring the parts of the image you don't want with the overlayed image |
| 16:34 | <justinh> | yeah I figured that out but it gets tricky when the background isn't a known quantity |
| 16:34 | <gbee> | not as clever, but servicable until proper support is in the code |
| 16:35 | <justinh> | dunno if it'd be worth it in all honesty |
| 16:35 | <gbee> | you can do some clever stuff with the QT image manipulation stuff, just not played with it much |
| 16:35 | <justinh> | can't think of any other use for it |
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| 16:37 | * | stuarta trouts himself with the basic C trout |
| 16:39 | <justinh> | gbee: actually I think it'd work quite well without doing any clipping if you get the aspect of the case right :) |
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| 16:52 | <justinh> | heh I can make this work better |
| 16:53 | <stuarta> | finally i've fixed my first OSX build issue. yippee! |
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| 17:19 | <xris> | stuarta: I can't even get qt to compile, so you're ahead of me. |
| 17:20 | <xris> | it apparently has issues in leopard |
| 17:21 | <stuarta> | ah well, i haven't updated from 10.3 (i think) |
| 17:21 | * | stuarta tries to work out the command line util to determine what version he has |
| 17:22 | <stuarta> | and it's not uname |
| 17:29 | <xris> | heh |
| 17:29 | <xris> | or just "about this mac" |
| 17:29 | <xris> | :) |
| 17:30 | <xris> | my macbook for work came with a leopard disk. figured I should install it |
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| 17:30 | <stuarta> | now see, that requires walking out to the TV when i already have an ssh login |
| 17:30 | <xris> | heh |
| 17:30 | <stuarta> | i admit, i just did that, however it's the principal that matters :-) |
| 17:30 | <stuarta> | the walking bit |
| 17:30 | <xris> | heh |
| 17:31 | <stuarta> | not the about this max bit :( |
| 17:31 | <xris> | my wife hates it when I ssh into her laptop. :) |
| 17:31 | * | stuarta walks to the tv again |
| 17:31 | <xris> | I scp files into her shared folder. |
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| 17:32 | <stuarta> | 10.4.11 |
| 17:33 | <xris> | cool |
| 17:34 | <stuarta> | that's probably the one before Leopard |
| 17:34 | <xris> | it is |
| 17:34 | <xris> | leopard is 10.5 |
| 17:34 | <stuarta> | ah |
| 17:35 | <stuarta> | cool indeed |
| 17:36 | <gbee> | just discovered something very weird, if I press up/down while on a MythListButton widget, my laptop makes an almost inaudible squeaking sound |
| 17:36 | <gbee> | it's not the buttons themselves, it's just when focused on those widgets |
| 17:36 | <stuarta> | ew |
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| 17:37 | <gbee> | I can't explain it, it's the weirdest thing I've ever come across |
| 17:37 | <gbee> | don't think its from the speakers, I've got headphones plugged in |
| 17:38 | <stuarta> | i have heard stuff like that before |
| 17:38 | <gbee> | might be from the drive, but I'm not sure why |
| 17:38 | <stuarta> | like when pushing monitors into different refresh characteristics |
| 17:38 | <stuarta> | with white vs black |
| 17:38 | <stuarta> | etc |
| 17:39 | <gbee> | possible, though the mythtv window is currently on the other monitor and the sound is definately coming from the laptop |
| 17:39 | <gbee> | could be the GPU .. |
| 17:39 | <kormoc> | stuarta, xris, echo $MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET is what I think Apple wants people to use |
| 17:40 | <stuarta> | it's empty :( |
| 17:40 | <gbee> | but the speculation is pointless because I don't think I'll ever know why it's happening |
| 17:40 | <kormoc> | huh, fair 'nuff |
| 17:40 | <kormoc> | Mine is set to 10.4 |
| 17:40 | <xris> | kormoc: btw, gordon will eventually get you that pvr-150 whenever he next sees matthew |
| 17:40 | <stuarta> | gbee: was just going to say could be the chipset |
| 17:40 | <kormoc> | xris, nifty |
| 17:41 | * | stuarta wonders why that env variable isn't defined |
| 17:42 | <kormoc> | stuarta, might want to run env and see if it's defined as another name or the like? |
| 17:43 | <stuarta> | nothing useful there |
| 17:43 | <xris> | kormoc: no variable for me, either |
| 17:43 | <stuarta> | maybe it only turns up if you are logged in on a terminal on the console |
| 17:43 | <kormoc> | that could be |
| 17:43 | <xris> | no "MAC" env vars, or vars containing"10" |
| 17:44 | <kormoc> | Crazy |
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| 18:08 | <reynaldo> | Hi all, I'm kind of confused by the aparent fact every plugin must provide its own event handler, is this true ? |
| 18:08 | <reynaldo> | isn't there some generic event handler and a method to just hook common widget state/actions to some function ? |
| 18:09 | <justinh> | helps to be able to re-use keys other things use, don't you think? |
| 18:09 | <justinh> | it's not much of a pain to have to write your own event handler IMHO |
| 18:10 | <reynaldo> | maybe, when you know how :-) |
| 18:10 | <justinh> | it's not hard. I managed it & apparently the hellomyth example in the wiki has been extended to include event handling |
| 18:11 | <reynaldo> | Oh, havent looked there again |
| 18:11 | <reynaldo> | let me take a look |
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| 18:11 | <justinh> | and mythappearance, mythcontrols are good examples of how to use mythui - if you don't use mythui for a new plugin.. er.. |
| 18:12 | <Chutt> | they're not using mythui all that well, yet. |
| 18:12 | <reynaldo> | justinh: have taked a look at both but I guess I was just missing too much context |
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| 18:13 | <reynaldo> | justinh: nope |
| 18:13 | <Chutt> | i still don't understand why mythappearance got into the tree as it is |
| 18:13 | <Chutt> | it doesn't belong as a plugin |
| 18:13 | <reynaldo> | the mythhello I'm looking doesn't have event handling related examples |
| 18:13 | <trisooma> | Hi, is there some kind of script which let's me add dummy records to the recording table? |
| 18:14 | <sphery> | reynaldo: mythtutorial2 |
| 18:14 | <trisooma> | for testing mytharchive |
| 18:14 | <sphery> | trisooma: myth.rebuild_database.pl, but it's a kludge (kluge?) |
| 18:14 | <reynaldo> | sphery: thanks |
| 18:15 | <reynaldo> | sphery: can't find it, is that a wiki section ? |
| 18:15 | <trisooma> | sphery: if i make this script usable how can i post/update it back to trunk (or current release) |
| 18:15 | <justinh> | Chutt: I know it doesn't belong as a plugin & was never intended to stay a plugin. just seemed an easy way for me to get started on it. as for why it got committed, call that getting carried away |
| 18:15 | <sphery> | reynaldo: dev list |
| 18:15 | <reynaldo> | oh |
| 18:16 | <sphery> | trisooma: If you want to make it "usable", that entails convert |
