TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#mythtv:2007:11:05

---	Log	opened Mon Nov 05 00:00:40 2007
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04:32	<justinh>	rooaus: don't care about the clock yet. will fix that later. prolly disable it for its release
04:33	<justinh>	rooaus: WTF is wrong with your box? don't see those problems here! :)
04:33	<stuarta>	morning justinh
04:33	<justinh>	anyway I plan to make my own versions of them, so that's a non-issue :)
04:34	<justinh>	morning stuarta
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05:01	<justinh>	hmm should I spend 99 quid on a core2 duo mobile 2ghz chip or £5 on a 2ghz single core chip? hmmmm
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05:25	<rooaus>	justinh: I have recently cleaned all installed myth files and reinstalled, maybe that is why they aren't found on my box? A search of trunk/myth* only finds some of those images (like mm_unchecked.png) in G.A.N.T..
05:27	<rooaus>	Nice work though :)
05:28	<justinh>	like I said I'll be redoing em. and trust you to find missing images :P
05:35	<rooaus>	I think the reason it happens to me is I often completely clean my install location. :D
05:42	<justinh>	I'm also not running svn
05:47	<justinh>	also if those missing images are the only problem you found, I think I've done well :D
05:48	<justinh>	still some tweaks to do since I updated genbox.png but otherwise it could be ready by next weekend
05:48	<rooaus>	Don't get me wrong, I do think you have done well!
05:49	<justinh>	maybe my sarcasm didn't come across too well before
05:49	<rooaus>	No it did, I just don't want to sound like a whiny user.
05:50	<justinh>	heh you'll never be that
05:50	<justinh>	if I wanted that I'd ask for opinions on the users list
05:50	<justinh>	or nowadays, the -dev list
05:52	<rooaus>	The background image got me thinking about an "Elvis" background, one where there are bullet holes in the TV :)
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05:56	<justinh>	heh. glasswide.shtml is the 2nd most popular page on my site & it's not even released yet :P
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06:28	<justinh>	seen as people are searching for 'mythtv skins' on google, maybe I could try a 'skin' background
06:29	<justinh>	rooaus: there are different backgrounds in there you know. you're not tied to the supplied (purple I think) one
06:33	<rooaus>	justinh: Yeah, I am using the vent.png at the moment.
06:34	<justinh>	eek
06:34	<justinh>	don't!
06:34	<justinh>	well you can if you want, but you never got it from me ;)
06:35	<rooaus>	Got what? ;)
06:36	<justinh>	that was just one of the ones I tried it out with. source unknown, licence unknown. was in a mediaportal skin. probably nicked from somewhere
06:40	<justinh>	http://mythtvthemes.co.uk/backgrounds.shtml - 'official' ones will be here
06:45	<rooaus>	Been looking at the "Deleted Group" stuff. Would it make more sense to auto expire the deleted group stuff in FIFO order rather than "AutoExpireMethod" order?
06:58	<rooaus>	Also considering an option to auto-expire deleted recordings X hours after being added to the Deleted group, rather than leaving them to expire when the file system fills. Does anyone think this is useful/useless?
07:01	<Daviey>	justinh: pm?
07:05	<justinh>	er.. lemme just re-enable it
07:06	<justinh>	fire away
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07:17	<justinh>	well, I can't sit here all day waiting for that pm. need to go buy some petrol
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07:26	<Daviey>	arg.. missed him
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08:12	<justinh>	rofl. The Atmel website has been haxx0r3d
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09:11	<GreyFoxx>	Man, seems like every ticket and post I see these days is upnp related. Must be a lot more people using it now
09:12	<GreyFoxx>	And how would a gps determine if a box is hacked?
09:12	<GreyFoxx>	oops
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09:21	<Finswimmer>	hi, mythtv tries to use OSS not alsa. after that it segfaults
09:22	<Finswimmer>	2007-11-05 17:13:07.941 Opening OSS audio device '/dev/sound/dsp1'.
09:22	<Finswimmer>	2007-11-05 17:13:07.942 The audio device cannot report buffer state accurately! audio/video sync will be bad, continuing...
09:22	<Finswimmer>	2007-11-05 17:13:07.944 AO: Using resampler. From: 48000 to 49777
09:22	<Finswimmer>	2007-11-05 17:13:07.950 NVP: Enabling Audio
09:22	<Finswimmer>	Segmentation fault
09:25	<gbee>	http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-22.html#ss22.2
09:25	<gbee>	http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/wiki/TicketHowTo
09:30	<Finswimmer>	gbee: ok. i will do that. but: is there a howto or something that tells me, how to use alsa and not OSS?
09:32	<gbee>	Finswimmer: that's a mythtv-users question, but it's under General settings, change the audio device from "/dev/sound/dsp1" to "ALSA:default"
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09:38	<Finswimmer>	gbee: setting it to alsa removes the segfault
09:38	<Finswimmer>	thank you
09:39	<gbee>	segfault is still a bug and if you could report it, we'd be grateful
09:40	<Finswimmer>	gbee: then i should report it with the full debug log?
09:43	<gbee>	Finswimmer: if you can, yes, that would help fix the segfault and prevent future users having the same problems
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15:53	<janneg>	and now to the hard part of a ffmpeg sync: coming up with a good commit message
15:53	<justinh>	lol. that's the hard part?
15:54	[~]	justinh suggests "hi guys, sorry if this breaks anything/everything but needs must :P"
15:54	<janneg>	lol
15:55	<janneg>	the boilerplate is fine, but summerize that has changed in 2200 ffmpeg commits is not
15:56	<justinh>	2200 commits? oof!
15:57	<justinh>	the last sync wasn't _that_ long ago was it? in terms of time I mean
15:59	<janneg>	I think half a year
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16:08	<bendailey>	janneg: was 7671 the last ffmpeg sync version?
16:09	<justinh>	if nothing else maybe that has a bearing on the comparisons between mplayer & mythtv playback cpu usage etc
16:10	[~]	Dibblah always looks forward to a ffmpeg sync. It's time to update to the latest SVN :)
16:10	<Dibblah>	Well, actually, to update to changeset {ffmpeg sync} - 1
16:10	<janneg>	bendailey: 8742 and I'll sync up to 10931
16:10	<Dibblah>	Cause that's always the most stable ;)
16:12	<janneg>	I hope I'll get rev 14800. commited
16:12	<janneg>	got it
16:13	<bendailey>	great
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16:13	<bendailey>	I will go check and start a rebuild now :)
16:17	[~]	janneg goes reading the commit message
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16:23	<janneg>	maybe we should change the mail commit hook to display first the message and than the changed files. the commit message is 32kb
16:28	<justinh>	eew. the status ui screen not having a background container makes life tricky
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16:45	<hads>	Anyone interested in a backtrace from trying to play files in mythvideo? http://slexy.org/index.php/view/s2OYofu7nH
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17:20	<janneg>	hads: I'm if you update to 14800
17:23	<hads>	janneg: That's where I'm at :)
17:23	<hads>	Although it has been that way since the last ffmpeg sync so it's not something that's just been introduced.
17:24	<janneg>	hads: that was fast, just 30 minutes after the commit
17:24	<janneg>	I look at it now
17:24	<hads>	janneg: Yeah, I was interested to see whether your commit fixed it :)
17:25	<hads>	I'm going into a meeting in a bit but I'll be around so ping me if there's anything you need from me.
17:27	<janneg>	does the file play fine in ffplay? if not I'll need the file to debug it. there is nothing obvious wrong
17:27	<janneg>	I'll go to bed soon
17:28	<hads>	janneg: Yeah, plays in ffplay and mplayer
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17:29	<hads>	There's a few files that it segfaults on but I haven't seens a commonality yet.
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17:38	<janneg>	hads: all mpeg4 videos?
17:41	<hads>	janneg: Not all AFAICT, I'll see if I can track down the commonality
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17:51	<a_stray_shot>	hello all
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17:59	<GreyFoxx>	hads: I see the EXACT same crash
17:59	<GreyFoxx>	spent some time going over it on sAturday but couldn't figure out what was going on
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18:00	<GreyFoxx>	It segfaults 100% of the time if I just run mythfrontend or mythtv filename.avi but if I run it via a debugger it only crashes 2/3rds of the time
18:00	<GreyFoxx>	I only noticed it after I wipped all my boxes and rebuilt from scratch
18:06	<gbee>	race condition?
18:07	<gbee>	pretty obvious thing to say ... not sure why I did
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18:17	<justinh>	rooaus: wanna download the latest tarball & take it for a test spin?
18:19	<rooaus>	justinh: Coolio, I will dl it now and try it shortly.
18:20	<justinh>	game-ui is kinda broken I think, and I'll be doing some more -ui.xml files eventually
18:20	<justinh>	I need to fix the missing watermark images too but the default will be with them disabled
18:23	<justinh>	rooaus: status-ui.xml could be better but not until the main release version supports a background container
18:24	<justinh>	"it'll do for now"
18:25	<jams>	justinh- that status screen is annoying
18:27	<justinh>	Daviey, rooaus - gonna redo the tarball. missing files otherwise. damn sed trap
18:28	<Daviey>	cool
18:29	<rooaus>	janneg: You seen #4134? I am trying to build r14800 now to confirm.
18:29	<rooaus>	justinh: np
18:29	<janneg>	rooaus: fixed
18:30	<rooaus>	janneg: Cool
18:30	<justinh>	uploading new tarball now
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18:31	<justinh>	jams: I also dislike the progdetails screen. not customisable enough!
18:32	<justinh>	I've made some notes which'll help come the (mythui) revolution
18:33	<justinh>	been theming for oooo dunno how long now, but this is prolly the most involved I've gone, and boy where there are limitations, they really bind
18:33	<justinh>	tarball's done uploading now
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18:50	<Daviey>	oh my.. that was an accident
18:50	\|-\|	[Daviey][Daviey] changed the topic of #mythtv: This is the MythTV development channel. For mythtv related user support, go to #mythtv-users. US/Canada Listings: http://schedulesdirect.org/
18:52	<gbee>	my least favourite screen is the programme details, can't change anything yet it needs theming badly
19:03	<rooaus>	Daviey: If it is related to a recent ffmpeg sync I think it isn't exactly OT either. ;)
19:04	<justinh>	rooaus: find those missing images man! root em out! ;)
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19:10	<e1z0>	hi
19:10	<e1z0>	why mythtv requires mysql ?
19:11	<rooaus>	justinh: Will keep looking :)
19:12	<rooaus>	Need to head out for a while though.
19:12	<justinh>	e1z0: because we've not had your patches to make it work with an embedded db yet
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19:13	<e1z0>	:O
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19:13	<e1z0>	but why it requires db at all ?
19:14	<justinh>	er.. too much info to store in flat files. searches of flat files take too long, yada yada yada
19:14	<justinh>	</argument>
19:14	<e1z0>	k
19:14	<e1z0>	:-)
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19:42	<rooaus>	justinh: Although Myth Archive isn't themed, if you copied glass-wide/shared/medbutton_pushed.png to glass-wide/text_button_pushed.png (plus on and off) the xmlparser will use your images and the default-wide/mytharchive-ui.xml.
19:43	<rooaus>	Almost looks like it is themed then :)
19:43	<hads>	GreyFoxx: Interesting, glad I'm not the only one. I can't remember exactly what revision it appeared here but I think it was the last ffmpeg sync.
19:43	<justinh>	rooaus: nifty, though I might just grab the archive-ui.xml & tweak it myself
19:44	<justinh>	save making more image files
19:44	<justinh>	got to be v. memory conscious ;)
19:44	<justinh>	does archive-ui.xml support a background container? always seen that plugin as a challenge to theme
19:45	<justinh>	tempted to do every plugin screen there is actually, just because
19:45	<rooaus>	true, I do want to reorganise the theme stuff to make this all a bit easier.
19:46	<rooaus>	I am really going out now, the missus is waiting for me. ;)
19:46	<justinh>	heheh
19:46	<justinh>	SWMBO !
19:46	<justinh>	rooaus: just uploaded a newer tarball. fixed the missing watermarks issue
19:47	<justinh>	fix the clock tomorrow :)
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