TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#mythtv:2007:01:31

---	Log	opened Wed Jan 31 00:00:28 2007
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01:36	<xris>	Chutt: you still awake?
01:37	<xris>	you ever think of setting up something at cafepress for tshirts, etc?
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03:25	<gbee\|sleep>	Captain_Murdoch: #2826 - currently transcoding state icons aren't supported in the code, I did promise someone that I would implement the code if they supplied the icons
03:26	<gbee\|sleep>	only think is I didn't much like the icons in #2826
03:26	<gbee\|sleep>	s/think/thing/
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05:00	<Captain_Murdoch>	gbee: there already is a FL_TRANSCODED flag and "transcoded" theme icon value that can be used. it doesn't support showing which profile was used to transcode, but it should show the state.
05:04	[~]	Captain_Murdoch is afk
05:13	<gbee>	doesn't show that a transcoding is in progress, which was iirc the main thing that this guy was after (as we already show when commflagging is running)
05:15	<gbee>	I didn't imagine they would also want to know which profile was used, imho that isn't something worth illustrating through icons but maybe I'm wrong
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08:20	<MoRpHeUz>	GreyFoxx, CDev: ping
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10:29	<bkhl>	Has anyone here used a Tvix?
10:29	<bkhl>	Oh, sorry.
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12:50	<xris>	Chutt: you see my note last night about cafepress stuff?
12:52	<j-rod>	xris: argh, I apparently have some shit to do before I can reply to pm's now...
12:52	<j-rod>	who said I was going to LFNW? :)
12:52	<j-rod>	I'm not a sure thing yet, but working on it
12:53	<xris>	I just registered a mythtv booth, and the organizer who wrote me back said that you were planning to show up
12:54	<j-rod>	Mark Ashworth?
12:54	<xris>	offered to put me in touch with you, but I didn't really need that. :)
12:54	<j-rod>	heh
12:54	<xris>	yeah, that looks right
12:54	<j-rod>	I'm trying to work a "What's new in RHEL5" angle to get my tab picked up
12:54	<j-rod>	but nothing confirmed yet
12:55	<xris>	heh
12:55	<xris>	well, if you manage to make it out, the mythtv table would love to have your company. :)
12:55	<j-rod>	I'm definitely game
12:56	<xris>	kormoc and I are trying to figure out how to set something up... if nothing else, I think we can borrow some gear from simech, and I can drag my 22" lcd from home.
12:56	<xris>	but we figured that we should go along since travel is free, and maybe we can swing a hotel room out of simech
12:56	<j-rod>	I've got a shuttle cube I've been dragging to and fro for mythtv crap all over here
12:56	<j-rod>	did a lug thing two weeks ago
12:57	<xris>	yeah, his box is a shuttle-alike
12:57	<j-rod>	a lunch session in the office today
12:57	<j-rod>	another lug next month
12:57	<j-rod>	an htpc users group meeting after that
12:57	<GreyFoxx>	Now that would be interesting to attend
12:57	<j-rod>	the htpc users group?
12:58	<j-rod>	(its at the microsoft building in Waltham, no less...)
12:58	<GreyFoxx>	yeah
12:58	<GreyFoxx>	I'd love to see what others are doing, what kind of gear they are using for players and such
12:58	<xris>	I've often thought about adding a "my mythbox" section to the wiki for stuff like that
12:59	<xris>	but my setup is so pitiful that I wouldn't want to be the first. :)
13:00	<GreyFoxx>	hehe
13:03	<xris>	but in the spirit of trade show stuff, I was thinking that maybe mythtv should get a cafepress acct and sell some tshirts or something. I'd actually like to just have one or two.
13:04	<gardengnome>	you can already get mythtvtalk.com shirts. and thongs.
13:04	<gardengnome>	i know how much you guys love forums.
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13:04	<xris>	but would be nice to have a small bit of money available to cover stuff like knopmyth cds, etc.
13:04	<xris>	gardengnome: what's a forum?
13:05	<Chutt>	eh
13:05	<Chutt>	quality issues with cafepress, i believe.
13:05	<xris>	well, there are other similar services, no?
13:06	<xris>	anyway, just something that crossed my mind. would be cool to have a mythtv shirt on while working the mythtv table at a show.
13:06	<xris>	and could bring in some money for testing gear for devs, etc. but of course, it would also probably mean more $$ work for you to deal with.
13:07	<Chutt>	i don't like paying extra taxes :p
13:08	<xris>	yeah. wouldn't want you to have to do that
13:09	<xris>	and setting up a nonprofit brings all kinds of other crap to the table
13:12	<xris>	http://www.squidoo.com/cafepress_alternative/
13:22	<Chutt>	i dunno
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13:34	<xris>	Chutt: well, it's obviously the biggest issue for you, since it would either mean more taxes, or setting up a nonprofit. I can totally understand if you're not interested.
13:37	<janneg>	Chutt: I think I found the change that broke mpeg4
13:38	<janneg>	compiling now
13:38	<Chutt>	cool
13:38	<Chutt>	xris, could do a limited run at some place for developers or somethin
13:39	<Chutt>	janneg, great =)
13:39	<xris>	yeah. gets expensive, though.
13:39	<Chutt>	eh, i wouldn't have a problem with that
13:40	<xris>	do we have any way to track down a high-res version of the logo? (was there ever one?)
13:40	<gardengnome>	i think juski made one
13:40	<janneg>	someone (juski?) created a svg
13:41	<xris>	janneg: it's not quite right, though
13:43	<xris>	Chutt: btw: http://www.juski.co.uk/mythsite11.png
13:43	<Chutt>	i don't like the boxes on the upper right
13:44	<xris>	yeah, other people have said the same
13:44	<Chutt>	and i'd like to see what the text would look like for the main content :p
13:44	<xris>	they don't match the rest
13:44	<stuarta>	janneg: re last_coeff_flag_offset_8x8, jwestfall said the other night that debug builds were triggering it...
13:44	<stuarta>	just trying it now
13:44	<xris>	I'm still trying to figure out how to get that header to work for ALL sites at mythtv.org.. trac, wiki, etc.
13:44	<xris>	would be nice to have a unified menu system
13:51	<janneg>	stuarta: yes, since debug builds are without PIC
13:52	<stuarta>	the changeset to remove the static fixes it then?
13:53	<janneg>	yes, but it's just a hack to fix it
13:54	<Cardoe>	Chutt: so got any ideas on a 0.21 release? ;)
13:55	[~]	stuarta suspects we aren't close to ready
13:55	<Chutt>	naw
13:55	<Chutt>	i'm too busy, too.
13:55	<Cardoe>	I've been crazy busy myself.
13:55	<Cardoe>	but some more fixes from trunk need to go to 0-20-fixes
13:55	<Cardoe>	I've been poking GreyFoxx about certain UPnP fixes
13:56	<stuarta>	thought he'd backported them already?
13:56	<Chutt>	the fixes needed for upnp aren't simple :p
13:56	<Chutt>	the simple ones are backported, the more complex ones shouldn't really go into a fixes branch
13:56	<xris>	mythweb's somewhat of a mess at the moment, too.
13:56	<Cardoe>	stuarta: He backported the set I poked him about a few weeks ago
13:56	<stuarta>	did most of them as he wrote them...
13:57	<stuarta>	hmmm, just broke my frontend :(
13:57	<stuarta>	suspect it's cause i'm trying to seek backwards while the backend is busy doing i/o
13:58	<stuarta>	okay that's a new one "[mpeg2video @ 0xc3367008]current_picture not initialized"
14:02	<gbee>	stuarta: that's the one I've been seeing, although I'm not certain the error is actually related to the hangs
14:03	<janneg>	Chutt: ffmpeg changesets 6942 (and 6953) cause the error
14:04	<janneg>	gbee: I've seen that error a couple of times too but never experienced frontend hangs/crashes
14:05	<stuarta>	gbee: it causes AFD to receive an unknown error
14:05	<stuarta>	how that gets handled is an interesting question...
14:09	<Chutt>	janneg, ah
14:09	<Chutt>	so just ifdeffing out that while (v<0xFF) loop fixes it?
14:10	<janneg>	I don't know, I've reverted the whole changesets
14:10	<Chutt>	do you happen to have a non .nuv file that shows the problem?
14:10	<Chutt>	can report it to the ffmpeg guys that way..
14:12	<janneg>	no, but the nuv file played with ffplay doesn't show the error
14:12	<Chutt>	heh
14:13	<janneg>	ifdeffing the while loop is enough
14:14	<Chutt>	it probably needs another condition added to that break statement
14:15	<Chutt>	what that'd be, who knows =)
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14:18	<stuarta>	Chutt: looks like myth's mailserver has been classed as a spam source (re: David Engel's mail)
14:19	<Chutt>	naw
14:19	<Chutt>	they keep blocking it because the forward and reverse dns don't match exactly.
14:19	<stuarta>	or that :)
14:20	<Chutt>	well, that www.mythtv.org isn't the reverse dns for the ip
14:20	<stuarta>	s/exactly/ at all/
14:20	<Chutt>	this is the 3rd time
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14:21	<stuarta>	bunch of eedjits
14:21	<xris>	Chutt: that's lame.
14:21	<Chutt>	because postfix says it's www.mythtv.org, they say the reverse dns for that ip must be www.mythtv.org.
14:21	<xris>	though it's usually nice when they match
14:21	<stuarta>	yeah, guess it cuts down on spam.
14:21	<GreyFoxx>	Nice yeah, but there is no requirement for it
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14:22	<stuarta>	(given what i see in my email logs at the office it would...)
14:23	<stuarta>	alternatively would making www.mythtv.org CNAME alcor-2.osuosl.org help?
14:23	<stuarta>	though it would look ugly
14:24	<Chutt>	i don't know details :p
14:25	<stuarta>	at the end of the day it's their issue.
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15:09	<Cardoe>	sorry disappeared for a bit.
15:09	<Cardoe>	some of the fixes are simple that still need to be backported
15:09	<Cardoe>	the word "RANGE" needs to be "range"
15:09	<Cardoe>	and the missing word "bytes" in one of the responses.
15:09	<Cardoe>	ends up fixing fast forwarding for me and someone else.
15:09	<Cardoe>	It's already on the head branch
15:14	<GreyFoxx>	I'll take a look at getting those in there
15:14	<GreyFoxx>	I'm curious, what player are you using ?
15:15	<MoRpHeUz>	any ideas abou this ?
15:15	<MoRpHeUz>	2007-01-31 18:14:41.788 This app was compiled against libmyth version: 0.20.20070124-1
15:15	<MoRpHeUz>	but the library is version: 0.20.20070122-1
15:15	<MoRpHeUz>	You probably want to recompile everything, and do a
15:15	<MoRpHeUz>	'make distclean' first.
15:15	<MoRpHeUz>	already did what the msg told me to do...
15:15	<Chutt>	no, you didn't.
15:15	<Chutt>	you also haven't read the topic. :p
15:16	<MoRpHeUz>	Chutt: yes, I read hehe
15:16	<MoRpHeUz>	I'm coded a lib
15:16	<MoRpHeUz>	and I'm trying to compile using that lib....
15:16	<MoRpHeUz>	after that I'm receiving this msg...
15:16	<MoRpHeUz>	I'm coded = I'm coding
15:17	<Chutt>	what's that have to do with myth?
15:17	<MoRpHeUz>	the lib if for myth
15:17	<Chutt>	we're not really here to teach people how to link against libraries.
15:17	<MoRpHeUz>	as I talked to GreyFoxx before, I'm creating a lib to transcode live content...
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15:18	<MoRpHeUz>	I'm not asking you to teach me...I'm asking you if after doing what the msg said to do and nothing happened, if someone has an idea..
15:18	<Chutt>	uh
15:18	<MoRpHeUz>	because libmyth is the same....
15:18	<MoRpHeUz>	didnt change that...
15:18	<Chutt>	as the message says, you compiled against a version of myth that's different than you're linking against.
15:19	<MoRpHeUz>	I just have one version of libmyth...
15:19	<MoRpHeUz>	(svn one)
15:19	<MoRpHeUz>	already did:
15:19	<Chutt>	sure you do.
15:19	<MoRpHeUz>	make uninstall && make distclean && make
15:19	<Chutt>	there's only one way to get that message.
15:19	<MoRpHeUz>	make install
15:20	<MoRpHeUz>	this is why I dont understand why what is happening...
15:22	<MoRpHeUz>	anyway, solved the problem...it was an error inside my library...nothing to deal with libmyth..
15:22	<MoRpHeUz>	=)
15:22	<Chutt>	err, were you hardcoding the libmyth version number?
15:23	<MoRpHeUz>	yeah...took the wrong file...took the one that I was doing some tests...
15:33	<Snow-Man>	xris, Chutt: You guys, if you want, might be able to use SPI to handle the funds and whatnot.
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15:36	<xris>	Snow-Man: there was some chatter on the summer of code list about groups that do that kind of thing, too.
15:37	<xris>	I assume you're talking about the spi.org and not the plastics company?
15:37	<janneg>	http://www.spi-inc.org/
15:38	<xris>	ah. different one, still
15:38	<xris>	cool
15:39	<Snow-Man>	yea, spi-inc.org
15:39	<janneg>	spi.org seems to be a pro software patent lobby group
15:39	<stuarta>	xris: there's an issue with building the perl bindings...
15:39	<stuarta>	you get "chmod: changing permissions of `blib/lib': Operation not permitted" when building as a non privileged user
15:40	<xris>	stuarta: odd. those directories are created during build
15:41	<xris>	I've never had any issue with it, either. I never build as root
15:41	<stuarta>	lemme check if it's cause of a previous make install
15:41	<stuarta>	ahah! that'll be because i've previously done make install as root (when they weren't being built by default)
15:43	<stuarta>	yep that was it. false alarm. sorry bout that...
15:43	<xris>	stuarta: I also have a friend who works for tides.org, which seems to do similar stuff.
15:44	[~]	stuarta is guessing that was for Snow-Man
15:44	<Snow-Man>	hm?
15:45	<xris>	stuarta: yes. for Snow-Man and janneg. my bad
15:46	<stuarta>	np
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15:46	<Snow-Man>	tides.org seems to have a somewhat more nebulous mission. :)
15:46	[~]	Snow-Man shrugs.
15:46	<Snow-Man>	Ain't my thing, just throwing it out there.
15:47	<xris>	Snow-Man: yeah. I think tides does mostly charity stuff. though they are working with some of the (former?) wikimedia people on citizendium now.
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16:28	<stuarta>	janneg: finished with the build environment on my box?
16:28	<janneg>	stuarta: yes
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16:35	<gbee>	any opinions on #2935, in particular the method used (changing pushbuttons into checkboxes)?
16:36	<stuarta>	janneg: thanks. i'll clean it up. doing backup & the backup has less space :-/
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16:45	<xris>	woot. looks like we might be able to get the plasma from work to bring to linuxfest. and maybe a quad core extreme proc for the demo box. lol
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17:05	<gbee>	xris: definately helps grab the attention if you've got a big TV in the booth
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17:06	<xris>	yeah
17:06	<stuarta>	yeah, definitely helped in London when we did the show
17:06	<mikegrb>	our some nearly naked ladies
17:06	<xris>	well, table. event isn't big enough to have booths. heh
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17:06	<stuarta>	room for a couch???
17:07	<xris>	lol, maybe.
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17:20	<stuarta>	okay. why does the same set of files consume more disk space under XFS then under reiserfs
17:21	<stuarta>	yet the raw capacity under XFS seems better?
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22:01	<GreyFoxx>	raiod: huh ?
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