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| 11:26 | absd | Can anyone explain why it makes sense to have the magic number "29.97" lying all over myth's source? |
| 11:26 | kvandivo | i suspect that a google search for that number will reveal all |
| 11:27 | absd | I have asked google, and I return a blank... hence me arriving here and asking... Feel free to make me look stupid with some google search terms :) |
| 11:28 | kvandivo | 29.97 mythtv comes to mind |
| 11:30 | absd | There doesn't appear to be any documentation on that particular design decision. It doesn't seem to make sense when there's many different video standards over the world that don't use 29.97 as the frame rate |
| 11:30 | absd | at very least, shouldn't it be in a parent header file somewhere so it's a one-time change, or even better, a setup option in the db, or a config file? |
| 11:33 | Chutt | because it's changed whenever the file format's different, or the user has selected pal to record with, etc? |
| 11:33 | Chutt | so having a variable be initialized with a reasonable default doesn't matter? |
| 11:35 | absd | I'm guessing there's somewhere it's not set properly... mythcommflag appears to detect the commercial breaks properly, though seems to mark commercials about 10 seconds early every 7 minutes playtime |
| 11:35 | absd | You'd suggest I ignore the framerate setting, and look for somewhere it's not detected correctly? Or...? |
| 11:35 | Chutt | exactly. |
| 11:35 | absd | (btw, I'm using pal @ 25fps) |
| 11:36 | absd | Any showstoppers you can think of... ie is it perhaps impossible for mythcommflag to pass back the right numbers as it dumps the cutlist without some component having access to the FPS of the source video? |
| 11:37 | Chutt | no. |
| 11:38 | absd | Should I log the bug somewhere first, or just fix it and post a patch (If it's more than a coupla hours work it'll take me a few weeks to find time) |
| 11:41 | Chutt | fix it and post a patch |
| 11:41 | Chutt | you _are_ in the dev channel. |
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| 11:42 | | * absd bows. Thanks for the direction Chutt. |
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| 13:05 | CoolerQ | can I submit a feature request with sample code here or is there a bugzilla somewhere I should use? |
| 13:05 | kvandivo | the mailing list is your best bet, probably |
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| 13:06 | CoolerQ | the radeon driver in 2.6.11 is broken and I'd like to add an ifdef around calls to DRMVideoSync |
| 13:07 | CoolerQ | do you think people would just dismiss it as a hack to fix someone else's bug? |
| 13:08 | Chutt | yup |
| 13:08 | CoolerQ | heh |
| 13:09 | CoolerQ | I would argue that OpenGLVideoSync has the same kind of ifdef around it |
| 13:10 | Chutt | uh, no, it doesn't. |
| 13:10 | CoolerQ | yes it does |
| 13:10 | CoolerQ | libs/libmythtv/vsync.cpp |
| 13:10 | Chutt | how's that? |
| 13:10 | CoolerQ | #ifdef USING_OPENGL_VSYNC |
| 13:10 | CoolerQ | TESTVIDEOSYNC(OpenGLVideoSync) |
| 13:10 | CoolerQ | #endif |
| 13:10 | CoolerQ | I'd suggest the same thing around DRMVideoSync |
| 13:10 | Chutt | you can't distinguish between an ifdef for an additional dependency and one for functionality that's present everywhere? |
| 13:11 | CoolerQ | evidently it's not present everywhere if the kernel barfs when you try to use it |
| 13:11 | Chutt | no, that's different. |
| 13:11 | kvandivo | the beauty of open source is that you can always change it in your copy, CoolerQ. |
| 13:12 | Chutt | you really can't distinguish between a _source_ dependency and code that will run everywhere? |
| 13:12 | Chutt | i don't give a damn if a particular kernel's broken. |
| 13:13 | Chutt | simply don't use that kernel, then |
| 13:14 | Chutt | ifdefs should only exist for build issues. |
| 13:14 | Chutt | not runtime crap |
| 13:15 | CoolerQ | how about a runtime config option? |
| 13:16 | Chutt | how about detecting that it's broken without bothering the user? |
| 13:17 | CoolerQ | I don't think that's possible |
| 13:17 | CoolerQ | since the kernel oops's and kills the process |
| 13:17 | Chutt | too bad |
| 13:17 | CoolerQ | I suppose I could fork and check from a new process |
| 13:17 | CoolerQ | but that seems pretty wasteful to do every time a video starts |
| 13:17 | Chutt | i'm not adding a config option to deal with one broken kernel. |
| 13:42 | thor_ | so we need to break more kernels then |
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| 14:38 | Aran | is there some reason that you can't delete a recording if the file doesn't exist? if there's no signal strength on a capture, it deletes the file, which means the only way to get rid of that recording entry is to manually create a file |
| 14:39 | Aran | it's a bad combination, IMHO |
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| 14:41 | Chutt | use cvs. |
| 14:41 | Aran | I thought you might say that. |
| 14:41 | Chutt | or read the mailing list. |
| 14:41 | Aran | hmm... I do read the mailing list, just not thoroughly enough I guess |
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| 15:41 | asdfdsa | hello |
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| 16:17 | Aran | it seems that mythtv (even CVS) doesn't work with the HD3000 v4l driver in the pcHDTV-2.0 package, mythtv won't change channels, I think because the driver doesn't implement VIDIOC_ENUMINPUT |
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| 16:18 | Aran | does anyone else have this problem? or has everyone already switched to using the DVB driver or are using the old pcHDTV-1.6 driver or what? |
| 16:18 | Aran | I have a patch for the pcHDTV driver, but I don't see anyone else complaining about this so I'm wondering if I just don't have something set up right, or if no one cares about the v4l driver any more |
| 16:23 | asdfdsa | Hey, could somebody help me? Whenever I run mythbackend, it gives me the error "Could not find input: Television on card when setting channel 3". And then I can't watch anything. |
| 16:27 | Aran | well, I did some other people complaining, but not as many as thought ought to of perhaps |
| 16:28 | hadees | asdfdsa, look to the channel topic and all your answers revealed |
| 16:28 | hadees | shall be revealed |
| 16:28 | Chutt | aran, most people don't want to use a $180 atsc card for ntsc viewing. |
| 16:28 | asdfdsa | okay |
| 16:28 | asdfdsa | sorry. |
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| 16:29 | Chutt | don't message me |
| 16:29 | Aran | oh, uh sorry |
| 16:29 | Aran | anyway, the driver I am refering to the atsc v4l driver... |
| 16:29 | Chutt | anyway, yes, everyone's moving to the dvb driver, or using the old version |
| 16:30 | Chutt | we'll be dropping support for their v4l driver soon, anyway, in preference of the dvb code. |
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| 16:34 | Aran | hmm, ok... I was trying to run vanilla 0.17 and was under the impression that v4l pchdtv driver would be a better choice than the dvb driver, hence my interest in getting the latest v4l driver to work. in any case, thanks for the answers |
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| 17:13 | dopester | deprecate the v4l code now! :) |
| 17:23 | rw | please |
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| 23:11 | xris | anyone here working on the new configure script? |
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