| --- | Log | opened Sun Mar 20 00:00:38 2005 |
| 00:03 | Beirdo | and he's back. Welcome back, Chutt |
| 00:07 | rkulagow__ | chutt: paying attention? |
| 00:10 | Chutt | no |
| 00:11 | Chutt | trying to get this air2pc to do something :p |
| 00:11 | rkulagow__ | ok, updating the howto for the plextor stuff. you have cycles tomorrow? |
| 00:11 | Chutt | i'll have cycles after 12:30 |
| 00:11 | rkulagow__ | i get mine to consume electricity and make heat. your's any better? |
| 00:11 | Beirdo | I guess I'll ask about CVS some time after 12:30 then :) |
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| 00:32 | Chutt | dopester, 717Mhz would be C111, right? |
| 00:33 | Chutt | my cable box shows cbs as transmitting on that, in the clear. |
| 00:34 | dopester | make sure your azap.conf matches 717 |
| 00:35 | dopester | or whatever you decide to name it |
| 00:36 | Chutt | C111:717000000:QAM_256:0:0 |
| 00:37 | dopester | yeah that would be the one |
| 00:37 | Chutt | still no lock |
| 00:37 | Chutt | card's not sharing any interrupts |
| 00:38 | dopester | bug me tomorrow.. im on the line between conciousness and sleeping... :) |
| 00:38 | Chutt | bah |
| 00:39 | cmorgan | heh |
| 00:39 | Beirdo | dopester is wussing out. too many mojitos |
| 00:39 | dopester | hehe |
| 00:40 | dopester | making mojitos in a pint glass is a bad idea thats all i can say :) |
| 00:41 | cmorgan | hah |
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| 00:54 | Chutt | ah well |
| 00:54 | Chutt | guess i'll try dvb-kernel cvs |
| 00:54 | Chutt | 'sgot a new driver for the card, i guess |
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| 01:22 | rkulagow__ | dopester: drunk? |
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| 01:36 | Chutt | there we go |
| 01:36 | Chutt | dopester, dvb-kernel cvs works. |
| 01:37 | Chutt | status 1f | signal f9d0 | snr d946 | ber 00007ff8 | unc 0000000d | FE_HAS_LOCK |
| 01:38 | Chutt | rkulagow, yo |
| 01:38 | Chutt | so, what'd you want to know about the plextor stuff? |
| 01:39 | rkulagow__ | does the new stuff work with the entire series, or just the TV tuner version. |
| 01:39 | rkulagow__ | driver comes from the plextor SDK? |
| 01:39 | Chutt | should be everything |
| 01:40 | Chutt | and the guy said he's working on adding support for some non-plextor usb thingies that use the same chipset |
| 01:40 | Chutt | yup, driver comes with the sdk |
| 01:40 | Chutt | it's just a simple make install |
| 01:40 | rkulagow__ | we pull divx, mpeg2, mpeg4? |
| 01:40 | Chutt | assuming your hotplug and everything works, etc |
| 01:41 | Chutt | we pull mpeg4 and stuff it into .nuv, like a bttv card |
| 01:41 | rkulagow__ | ok |
| 01:44 | Chutt | what kind of morons are they letting in to mit these days? |
| 01:44 | rkulagow__ | the blurb on the website says mpeg-2 as well; future support, or what? |
| 01:46 | rkulagow__ | chutt: i was talking to dopester a few days ago. those UNC errors in your paste above are the kiss of death; apparently it's doubtful that you're going to get a watchable stream, even if it does lock. |
| 01:46 | Chutt | it's there |
| 01:46 | Chutt | the thing is, the card doesn't do audio encoding |
| 01:46 | Chutt | so it doesn't produce a full stream |
| 01:46 | Chutt | if i wanted to do mpeg2, i'd have to mux it and everything |
| 01:46 | Chutt | and i'm too lazy |
| 01:47 | Chutt | so, no hd for me? :( |
| 01:47 | rkulagow__ | ok, i think this is what we talked about before. it's just straight pcm, and isn't already in a nice MPEG-2 stream like we get from the pvr-250's, correct? |
| 01:48 | rkulagow__ | not qam i don't think. i had to put my Air2PC card on a $20 radio shack special to pull in OTA. i'm now getting good signal for everything in my area; no unc errors, strong signal, etc. |
| 01:48 | Chutt | rkulagow, yeah |
| 02:07 | Chutt | huh |
| 02:07 | Chutt | something ate alsa |
| 02:08 | Chutt | probably because i disabled hotplug last boot |
| 02:08 | rkulagow__ | dopester: there? |
| 02:08 | Chutt | one last reboot... |
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| 06:43 | djselbeck | my dvb eit is ever a hour too late |
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| 08:38 | Geckofiend | heh "Seattle Maffia" |
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| 09:58 | spdorsey | Anyone home? |
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| 10:17 | spdorsey | I'm looking for some help on creating a shell script |
| 10:19 | Geckofiend | there are any number of more appropriate channels for that |
| 10:19 | spdorsey | Well, it's MythTV specific |
| 10:19 | spdorsey | has to do woth the shell script in Jarod's guide |
| 10:20 | spdorsey | I've just never made one before - he gives me the text to put in it. |
| 10:22 | jams | spdorsey, I will help you in #knoppmyth |
| 10:22 | spdorsey | ok thanks |
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| 11:24 | gpart | hi |
| 11:25 | spdorsey | anyone here have any experience with gsftp and getting it started/autostarted? |
| 11:26 | spdorsey | I want to use it to upload videos to watch using myth |
| 11:26 | dopester | hows that even remotely related to myth tv development? |
| 11:26 | Geckofiend | This is the DEV channel |
| 11:26 | spdorsey | oh crap - sorry |
| 11:26 | spdorsey | which is the support channel again? |
| 11:26 | Geckofiend | /topic |
| 11:26 | Geckofiend | and that has NOTHING to do with Myth either |
| 11:27 | spdorsey | You don't have to be pissy about it. |
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| 11:28 | Geckofiend | well since this is the second time you've failed to read the topic and came in here for generic linux support yeah I'm goann be pissy |
| 11:28 | Geckofiend | maybe if you could read you wouldn't need so much help? |
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| 12:25 | dopester | reading is optional |
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| 13:50 | rkulagow__ | dopester: around? |
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| 15:19 | darkfrog | Should outputting sound to /dev/dsp work after going through the Fedora Myth tutorial? |
| 15:19 | darkfrog | ...it isn't for me. |
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| 15:33 | | * Beirdo slaps darkfrog with the topic |
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| 15:40 | dopester | rkulagow__: yes |
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| 17:08 | dopester | sweet mark andersons code is choosing a spanish track for me automaticlly.. hehe |
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| 19:04 | dopester | chutt: you around? |
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| 19:57 | Matt | ok, so why, every time I decide to compile mythtv, do I run into stupid problems |
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| 20:02 | kvandivo | pebkac |
| 20:03 | dopester | probbably because you didnt read the documentation |
| 20:03 | Matt | nah, it's always like this :&) |
| 20:03 | Matt | there's something screwy about this box |
| 20:03 | dopester | then its the STUPID box |
| 20:03 | Matt | probably because it began life as slackware 8.1 |
| 20:04 | Matt | and has been upgraded piecemeal since then |
| 20:05 | cmorgan | a great reason to install a distro from scratch imo |
| 20:05 | cmorgan | you can't have your software screwing things up all of the time |
| 20:05 | Matt | well that's pretty much the state this is in now |
| 20:06 | Matt | problem is things get upgraded sporadically |
| 20:06 | cmorgan | who upgrades them? |
| 20:06 | Matt | "Oh, I need gcc 3.3.3 - I suppose I should install that then" |
| 20:06 | Matt | I do |
| 20:06 | cmorgan | don't most distros do that stuff for you? |
| 20:07 | dopester | this is clearly a development issue :) |
| 20:07 | Matt | they do :&) |
| 20:07 | cmorgan | i mean it seems like a pita to have to download and build gcc |
| 20:07 | Matt | but not when you install everything yourself |
| 20:07 | Matt | actually, gcc ispretty straightforward |
| 20:07 | cmorgan | you choose to do that right? |
| 20:07 | Matt | I did, yes |
| 20:07 | cmorgan | which, while a huge waste of time, is your choice |
| 20:07 | cmorgan | heh |
| 20:08 | Matt | well, it's kinda force of habit |
| 20:08 | Matt | I've been doing things this way for so many years, it's hard to find a distro that does things the way I like |
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| 20:11 | cmorgan | most of the problems i've had with myth are due to not having the right qt libraries |
| 20:12 | Matt | well that was odd |
| 20:15 | Matt | anyway, once again I need to track down why I'm having a mass of linking errors against qt |
| 20:15 | cmorgan | heh |
| 20:15 | cmorgan | yeah, the qt stuff is a real pita sometimes |
| 20:16 | Matt | I have hundreds of lines along the lines of |
| 20:16 | Matt | main.o(.text+0x7a): In function `main': |
| 20:16 | Matt | : undefined reference to `QApplication::QApplication[in-charge](int&, char**)' |
| 20:17 | Matt | and also |
| 20:17 | Matt | ../../libs/libmyth/libmyth-0.17.so: undefined reference to `QButtonGroup::qt_emit(int, QUObject*)' |
| 20:17 | cmorgan | what version of qt do you have installed? |
| 20:17 | Matt | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Dec 17 2003 /usr/lib/qt -> qt-x11-free-3.1.2/ |
| 20:18 | Matt | hrm, I wonder |
| 20:19 | cmorgan | maybe mythtv needs a newer version? |
| 20:19 | cmorgan | i'm not sure what version is required atm |
| 20:19 | Matt | well, this is a good question |
| 20:20 | Matt | as the docs say "qt 3.1 is required and 3.0 might work but isn't supported" |
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| 20:24 | cmorgan | Matt: no idea. this chan is usually for devel things, #mythtv-users might have someone that knows what version you need |
| 20:25 | | * Matt nods |
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| 21:41 | DSL_MTLCA | quick question... hopefully somebody can answer it quickly here... |
| 21:42 | DSL_MTLCA | how do i start the front end w/ logging enabled? |
| 21:42 | DSL_MTLCA | i can't find anything, because i keep getting matches for "log in" or "login" when looking for log, so I'm getting all sorts of other setup questions |
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| 21:48 | Beirdo | DSL_MTLCA: this is the wrong channel. |
| 21:49 | Beirdo | please go back to #mythtv-users where this belongs, and don't spam both channels with the same questions, K? |
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| 22:14 | Bog_ | anyone here have one of the alienware systems? |
| 22:15 | Bog_ | dhs 2 series? |
| 22:15 | Bog_ | in the specs, I cant find how many tuners it has |
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| 22:23 | HRearden | anyone know if closed captions for OTA ATSC recordings over the DVB drivers is supposed to work |
| 22:24 | GeckoFiend | based off of your read of the code what's your opinion? |
| 22:25 | HRearden | I get the point, but there is a fairly limited base of people using DVB drivers for ATSC stuff, so I figured I'd ask here as well. |
| 22:26 | Matt | ah |
| 22:26 | Matt | found the problem |
| 22:26 | Matt | upgraded qt |
| 22:26 | Bog_ | what do people think of avermedia hardware? it work well with mythtv? |
| 22:27 | Matt | perhaps the docs are out of date now? :&) |
| 22:27 | HRearden | thor, you there? Anyone else experiment with the upnp protocol? |
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| 22:37 | dopester | hrearden: captions are not supported right now |
| 22:38 | dopester | DVB, VBI or ATSC :) |
| 22:39 | HRearden | thx. |
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| 22:40 | dopester | DTK started on an ATSC captions patch, but i don't know if it works or not.. |
| 22:40 | HRearden | dopester, do you have any idea if there are still recorded. For instance, if I played them back on a Roku HD-1000 using their player? I haven't checked yet if their player supports them, but I am checking on that. |
| 22:41 | dopester | well the vbi captions are embeded in the video |
| 22:41 | dopester | and i THINK atsc captions are as well |
| 22:41 | dopester | DVB captions are a seperate PID for sure |
| 22:41 | dopester | when i say embeded in the video there is some 'data' field in the mpeg you just read ascii from i believe |
| 22:43 | dopester | its part of the digital tv code i don't really have very high on my list to look at, so if you want feel free to take a look ;) |
| 22:43 | HRearden | that's what I was reading about before. I did get the impression that it would likely be in multiple places. |
| 22:43 | dopester | you interested in atsc captions? |
| 22:44 | HRearden | Right now I'm working on trying to figure out how to get HDTV playback from a near-silent form factor. The only thing I've figured out is a Roku. My mom is losing here hearing and stops by sometimes to watch TV, so she likes the captions. |
| 22:44 | dopester | ahhh |
| 22:45 | dopester | my p4 shuttle is more pretty quiet |
| 22:45 | dopester | my fridge and tv are louder than it for sure |
| 22:46 | dopester | well take a look at the DTK stuff.. he got stuck with the presentation time since he said it was interleaved or something |
| 22:46 | HRearden | Kind of like the 1u-style form factor too. I have an Epia m-10000 now in a morex 2699 case. Not completely quite but at least it fits in with my other a/v stuff. The shuttle wouldn't I don't think. |
| 22:46 | HRearden | did he post that captions patch to the list? |
| 22:46 | dopester | maybe |
| 22:46 | dopester | its not working |
| 22:46 | dopester | but i think it might be a good starting point |
| 22:46 | HRearden | right, just wanted to look. |
| 22:47 | dopester | no idea if it should be just used for info, or if you can actually use the code |
| 22:47 | dopester | please only make it work with mpeg-ts files.. :) |
| 22:47 | dopester | i need more reasons to dump ps mode |
| 22:48 | HRearden | relative advantages/disadvantages there. I think I'm using PS mode at the moment which must have been the default. |
| 22:49 | dopester | yeah ps is the default |
| 22:49 | dopester | you can make ps from ts, but not vice versa |
| 22:49 | dopester | ts will strip language names from the stream, and also poses some issues for dvb captions |
| 22:50 | HRearden | ahh. |
| 22:50 | dopester | just need to spend some time in mpegts.c with ffmpeg and make it work half way decently |
| 22:52 | dopester | my first checkin will be to mpegts.c :) |
| 22:53 | HRearden | Yeah. this area of code is new to me - just feeling my way around it now. Worked in datadirect stuff before and other gui but never recording. |
| 22:53 | dopester | well just worry with the playback |
| 22:54 | dopester | if its not being recorded i can take care of that in like 10 minutes |
| 22:54 | HRearden | what are you using for HDTV output in the shuttle? |
| 22:55 | dopester | nvidia 6600 |
| 22:55 | dopester | dvi->hdmi |
| 22:55 | HRearden | couldn |
| 22:56 | HRearden | arg. couldn't find the DTK patch. I'll look tomorrow. Later. |
| 22:56 | dopester | its on his page somewhere |
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| 23:13 | dopester | hrearden: http://www.mrl.nyu.edu/~danielk/mythtv/hdtv-captions-v2.tbz |
| 23:15 | HRearden | thanks. Finally found it. |
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| 23:16 | dopester | if atsc captions are in a seperate pid just let me know and i'll make sure they start getting recorded |
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| 23:34 | rkulagow__ | dopester: still here? |
| 23:34 | dopester | yessir |
| 23:34 | dopester | and im not drinking tonite :) |
| 23:34 | dopester | you'd think i would after ncsu won today.. heh |
| 23:35 | rkulagow__ | well, that makes one of us |
| 23:35 | rkulagow__ | ok, so i've got good FE_HAS_LOCK on my test frontend using OTA |
| 23:35 | rkulagow__ | no UNC errors |
| 23:35 | dopester | well good :) |
| 23:36 | rkulagow__ | my test box has a PVR150 that i'm testing along with the Air2PC card, so i've got two lineups. one has my comcast for the 150, one is the OTA stuff. |
| 23:37 | rkulagow__ | bound everything, did a channel scan, and picked up all the stations except for CBS, which is VHF. i can live with that. |
| 23:37 | rkulagow__ | now, the digital channels are shown in channel editor as 38_1 |
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| 23:38 | dopester | where did the _ come from.. you using dd for guide? |
| 23:38 | rkulagow__ | what's the format for the "start channel" that i should use in setup? i tried 38_1, 381 and 38.1; when mythbackend starts it complains |
| 23:38 | rkulagow__ | i was going to use dd for guide. |
| 23:38 | dopester | how in the hell did my scan come up with underscores.. |
| 23:39 | rkulagow__ | don't know; let me make sure i'm not drunk yet |
| 23:39 | rkulagow__ | brb |
| 23:40 | rkulagow__ | actually, let me start from scratch. i'm going to wipe the channel and card configs. |
| 23:42 | | * dopester hands rkulagow__ a mojito |
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