TheGrebs.com:IRC Logs:#mythtv:2005:03:18

---	Log	opened Fri Mar 18 00:00:27 2005
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02:36	booyeah11	uo
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04:36	pa8	hello
04:36	pa8	does anyone know the website about the tutorial/review based around Winfast 2000XP
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04:59	pa8	what lirc driver does winfast use
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11:22	hadees	Chutt, you around?
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11:24	hadees	Chutt, anyway i got a problem with my winamp vis plugin for mythmusic, right now it seems like it will be hell to draw the vis inside a qt window
11:24	hadees	i was wondering what you think i should do
11:25	hadees	the reason is that wine does its own displaying
11:25	hadees	so although i can get it to display full screen it will be in an overlaying window
11:25	hadees	that leaves the problem of the second window and you can't show the min view of the plugin
11:26	hadees	the only solution is to hack libwine so directX draws a QWindow
11:26	hadees	or whatever qt is called
11:26	hadees	but thats like a huge thing
11:27	hadees	there is also a possiblity i can do it inside a gtk# window with mono
11:27	hadees	hehe other then that it would be simple to do...
11:28	hadees	i wish there was some way to capture the vis output of a spawned child process
11:28	hadees	the program that runs the directX is forked from the xmms-winamp vis plugin
11:30	hadees	thor_, or anyone else free free the chime in
11:31	hadees	i spent all last night in #qt, #winehackers, #winehq, #mono trying to come up with a solution
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13:36	shadash	hadees: http://www.kerneltraffic.org/wine/wn19991108_16.html link might help you
13:37	thor_	by the time you're donw with all that, you could have probably written a dozen visualizations from scratch
13:37	thor_	:-)
13:39	hadees	thor_, hehe, yeah well i didn't think it would be so much work to get it to display where i want it
13:40	hadees	i mean right now it will open a window
13:40	hadees	and should work fine
13:40	Chutt	nope
13:40	Chutt	breaks window focus
13:40	Chutt	no new windows allowed.
13:40	hadees	Chutt, I get that i meant that it works, just not to the standard you want
13:40	hadees	it actully passes keys back
13:43	beavis	Chutt: did you read the thread with the frontend freezes on debian64? Any idea what could cause the nuvplayer freezes there?
13:45	hadees	although a nice feature for mythtv might be to be able to draw other programs inside it, like mplayer, xine, xmame, my plugin
13:45	hadees	i mean those are all other windows
13:45	Chutt	hadees, that's up to the other program
13:45	Chutt	not myth.
13:46	Chutt	random reparenting rarely works properly.
13:46	hadees	Chutt, well actully in the dll you can give it a parent window
13:46	hadees	i am not sure how that would work though from wine to qt
13:46	Chutt	then what's the problem?
13:47	hadees	xmms doesn't do it
13:47	Chutt	an X window is an X window.
13:47	hadees	Chutt, i think the parent window though is a wine thing
13:47	hadees	winamp
13:47	Chutt	<shrug>
13:47	Chutt	not my problem
13:48	hadees	Chutt, hehe man i am not trying to ruin mythtv's codebase, i agree with you, i am just trying to figure out a way to do it like you want
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14:52	MaxeyPad	can MythTV handle 5.1 audio?
14:53	mikegrb	the answer is hidden in /topic
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15:54	hadees	Chutt or thor_, sorry to bother you but I think I found the solution but my knowledge of qt is limited, http://doc.trolltech.com/solutions/qtwinmigrate/winmigrate-win32-in-qt-example.html is a way to have qt for win32 display stuff like the winamp vis dlls inside a qt window. Anyway I was wondering if you think mythtv would able to use the qt window it creates if it was compiled with winelib
15:57	Chutt	that's for qt on windows.
15:57	Chutt	i doubt it'd work on x
15:59	hadees	Chutt, yeah but if you compile a winelib program against qt for windows i can get a qt window pointer
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16:00	Chutt	you can get a qt X window pointer easily, too
16:00	Chutt	without doing that
16:01	Chutt	if the winelib translation layer doesn't handle that, that should be fixed
16:01	Chutt	not crappy hacks in myth
16:01	jmhuff	[Fix] Dish Network PPV Data isn't in MythTV Guide ... visit http://www.MythPPV.com to download the fix
16:01	Chutt	jmhuff, no one cares in here
16:02	Chutt	tell the users mailing list
16:02	jmhuff	Chutt up dude.. You have been an ass to me since day 1. Just trying to help out the community
16:02	Chutt	this isn't the 'community'
16:02	Chutt	this is the developer channel.
16:02	Chutt	you're talking to the wrong damn people.
16:07	Beirdo	some people just never get it
16:08	hadees	Chutt, you really think its a bad hack? i mean the only class i am using from qt for windows is QWinHost which is a proper QWidget
16:09	Chutt	yes.
16:09	Chutt	the winamp dll layer should handle the translation
16:09	Chutt	especially if it's part of the api
16:09	Chutt	if it doesn't, it should be fixed.
16:10	hadees	yeah the api just tells it a parent window and to render itself
16:11	hadees	QWinHost is a wrapper
16:11	hadees	so it calls it's draw window function that really is drawing inside a QWinHost
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16:18	thor_	hadees, at this point, I've sort of lost track of what you're trying to do. If the winamp api's don't provide some access to rendered data (an image structure, bits for a bitblit, etc.), then swallowing an entire GUI framework to try and get window output squeezed into a widget in entirely different GUI framework does not seem a terribly sensible course of action.
16:22	hadees	thor_, its not an entire frame work, its just one class, the QWinHost
16:22	hadees	although i am not sure its free so it might be moot
16:23	thor_	you want to have an entire windows emulation layer just to render music visualizations?
16:25	hadees	thor_, its not an entire emulation layer, i am just using a winelib program to access a dll and return a QFrame with QWinHost
16:25	hadees	rather QWinHost is a QFrame
16:25	Chutt	i still don't understand why you can't just give it the X window to draw in
16:26	thor_	I still don't understand the big picture ... you want more vizualizations for MythMusic ... uhm, port a few, it would be a lot less work
16:28	hadees	Chutt, because the parent window is of the type HWND
16:28	Chutt	so?
16:28	Chutt	wine doesn't translate it?
16:28	Chutt	i don't see how it _can't_ translate it
16:29	Chutt	it's running on X, it's using X windows
16:29	hadees	i think it creates a window and draws inside that window
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16:29	Chutt	and you really think it doesn't translate internally?
16:31	hadees	Chutt, i haven't found any real way to do it yet and the people in #winehackers weren't sure either
16:31	hadees	I'll keep digging around
16:32	hadees	once i get it to an xwindow though what do you use to create a QFrame from it
16:32	Chutt	why would you do that?
16:32	Chutt	haven't you looked at any of the existing plugins at all?
16:33	hadees	I have, but i thought for the view in mythmusic when your not in full screen you would need it in one
16:34	Chutt	you really should pick a different project that's more in tune with what you're capable of
16:34	hadees	mabey
16:34	Chutt	no, really.
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16:38	thor_	here's a nice 2 day project; add a dd/copy ISO-mirror type thread to mtd JobThread class, then add a single menu item on MythDVD start page that adds "Mirror Entire DVD" to "Play DVD" and "Rip DVD".
16:39	thor_	really very straightforward
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16:41	thor_	probably need only a single additional class variable in dvdripbox for feedback to the user
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17:24	beavis	it looks like myth isn't really designed for 64bit yet. Anyone I'm talking to with a 64bit linux has the frontend freezes without any error messages.
17:25	thor_	plan at this point is to skip 64bit and go straight to 128
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17:27		* kvandivo smirks.
17:28	thor_	but only on Von Neuman architectures
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17:28	Chutt	it doesn't have to be 'designed for 64bit'.
17:29	beavis	could you give me an advice how to find out what's the problem is? There are people in the ml and also in the mythtvtalk forum with debian64 trying to find out why it doesn't work
17:29	Chutt	uh, maybe you should get a backtrace like the docs tell you to?
17:29	Chutt	just a guess
17:29	beavis	I just don't crash
17:29	Chutt	what's that have to do with anything?
17:30	beavis	doh, i can't write today...
17:35	beavis	the only thing that looks strange there is: Cannot access memory at address 0x42000000
17:35	beavis	#0 0x00002aaaad4d62b5 in nanosleep () from /lib/libc.so.6
17:35	Chutt	way to follow the docs.
17:36	beavis	you mean i should send it to -dev i guess
17:37	Chutt	or just post the full thing somewhere
17:37	thor_	or get buthead to do it
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18:01	beavis	bt sent to [mythtv-users] MytvTV Frontend Freezes (seemingly no errors). thanks chutt
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20:58	ParadigmShift	\| hey peeps
20:58	ParadigmShift	\| wassup
20:59	ParadigmShift	\| one of you developers needs to get myth to work with a Bluetooth PDA as a remote
20:59	ParadigmShift	\| that would be cool
21:02	kvandivo	we're too busy working on the ESP module so that we can beam the video straight to the brain
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21:03	mikegrb	kvandivo: with would mean a complete shift in the media paradigm
21:04	dopester	i think paradigmshift needs to start coding if he wants to see that :)
21:06	thor_	Chutt, do we have a problem if mfd wants to use the livemedia library for RTSP/RTP/RTCP etc. ?
21:06	thor_	it's a deb package, used in vlc, mplayer, etc.
21:11	thor_	hmmm, Chutt's reading and/or playing video games .... no fair
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21:27	Chutt	heh
21:27	Chutt	thor, lookin at cars, actually
21:27	Chutt	but, yeah, that's fine
21:28	Chutt	that's a standard lib
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21:29	thor_	cool
21:30	thor_	kept using it as a reference to implement my own stuff, starting to realize I'm just completely re-inventing the wheel, which is dumb
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21:32	wildcard0	hey. im looking for a small box/set top/etc that can run myth and decode a directv signal...any ideas?
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21:35	Beirdo	yeah
21:36	Beirdo	read the topic
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21:37	wildcard0	already asked there earlier. they said they didn't know anything and to ask here if anyone was working on anything
21:37	Chutt	won't ever happen.
21:38	mikegrb	that is such a wild request
21:38	wildcard0	well there's a bunch of set tops that do directv and looked fairly easy to take apart. the directivo for example. thought someone had played with it a little
21:40	mikegrb	u r dumb
21:41	wildcard0	whatever. obviously the most unfriendly open source project i've ever come across. i'll move on
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21:44	Beirdo	another one bites the dust...
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21:55	thor_	hmm, he should try a BSD some time
21:56	GreyFoxx	hehe
21:57	GreyFoxx	\Tell him to go talk to Theo for a while :)
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23:09	dopester	hhe work with directv huh.. thats simple trust me.. hehe
23:09	dopester	all the documentation on their "standard"
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23:37	dopester	evening rkulagow
23:37	rkulagow__	o
23:37	rkulagow__	or, yo
23:37	dopester	oi
23:38	thor_	ola
23:38	dopester	found the ts startup delay in libavformat.. can't wait to try commenting out the useless crap
23:39	thor_	was there some code change I should be trying in the whole Air2PC/QAM thing?
23:39	rkulagow__	off to watch battlestar. bbl.
23:40	dopester	there was a siparser thing i don't think i made a patch for
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