| --- | Log | opened Fri Feb 25 00:00:38 2005 |
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| 00:51 | Captain_Murdo | | why is some moron emailing me personally asking me how to configure a v4l card so he can capture from composite and svideo? |
| 00:51 | Captain_Murdo | | wonder how many other people on the list he emailed. |
| 00:51 | epssy | burn him alive! |
| 00:52 | Captain_Murdo | | email starts out... "Seems you may know something about mythtv setup." |
| 00:54 | epssy | do you know much about mythtv setup? |
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| 01:05 | epssy | on a development note, the mythtv 'run in window' function allows you to fit the application nicely on the TV, yet once live tv is selected those bounds are gone and the tv image is full screen again - on my tv cutting off a good few cm or image. is this a myth related bug or some thing to do with how pal displays? (No idea if the same happens with ntsc) |
| 01:06 | Chutt | there's a setting for that. |
| 01:06 | epssy | a setting for live tv positioning and application positioning? |
| 01:07 | Chutt | yup |
| 01:07 | Chutt | same page as the 'run in window' setting, iirc. |
| 01:08 | epssy | thank you :) |
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| 01:26 | rkulagow | chutt: here? |
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| 01:26 | Chutt | yup |
| 01:29 | rkulagow | i just had a weird incident upgrading to latest CVS. after compiling and running mythbackend, i got: |
| 01:29 | rkulagow | 2005-02-25 00:13:50.061 New DB connection, total: 1 |
| 01:29 | rkulagow | 2005-02-25 00:13:50.183 Upgrading to schema version 1073 |
| 01:29 | rkulagow | 2005-02-25 00:13:50.329 New DB connection, total: 2 |
| 01:29 | rkulagow | Starting up as the master server. |
| 01:29 | rkulagow | 2005-02-25 00:13:50.755 New DB connection, total: 3 |
| 01:29 | rkulagow | DB Error (checkchannel): |
| 01:29 | rkulagow | Query was: |
| 01:29 | rkulagow | SELECT channel.chanid FROM channel,capturecard,cardinput WHERE channel.channum = '3' AND channel.sourceid = cardinput.sourceid AND cardinput.inputname = 'S-Video 0' AND cardinput.cardid = capturecard.cardid AND capturecard.cardid = 4 AND capturecard.hostname = 'masterbackend' ; |
| 01:29 | rkulagow | No error type from QSqlError? Strange... |
| 01:29 | rkulagow | 2005-02-25 00:13:55.586 Channel(/dev/video3): CheckChannel failed. Please verify channel "3" in the "setup" Channel Editor. |
| 01:29 | rkulagow | 2005-02-25 00:13:55.598 New DB scheduler connection |
| 01:29 | rkulagow | 2005-02-25 00:13:55.670 mythbackend version: 0.17.20050223-1 www.mythtv.org |
| 01:29 | rkulagow | 2005-02-25 00:13:55.712 Enabled verbose msgs : important general |
| 01:29 | rkulagow | 2005-02-25 00:13:57.644 Reschedule requested for id -1. |
| 01:30 | rkulagow | so the weird part is i'm looking at the error message and the s-video thing pops out at me. i don't use any s-video inputs. |
| 01:30 | Chutt | heh |
| 01:30 | rkulagow | so i killed mythbackend, went into setup. sure enough, card 4 (/dev/video3) default input is svideo |
| 01:30 | Chutt | weird. |
| 01:31 | rkulagow | considering that i had recorded 4 programs earlier made me think something was up. |
| 01:31 | rkulagow | (all used the tuner) |
| 01:32 | rkulagow | card 4 is a M179; it's got a different layout of inputs compared to PVR-250s |
| 01:32 | Chutt | did you update the driver at all recently? |
| 01:32 | Chutt | though, i thought it used the string 's-video', etc in the db |
| 01:32 | Chutt | weird. |
| 01:32 | rkulagow | nope; driver is ancient. |
| 01:33 | BlurredWe | I'm following the thread about java talking to the backend on the list, is there a good document about the protocol mythtv uses? |
| 01:34 | Chutt | source code |
| 01:34 | Chutt | protocol's dead simple. |
| 01:35 | rkulagow | input's 0, 1 and 2 are "N/A". 3 is Composite 0, 4 is Tuner 0, 5 is N/A and 6 is S-Video 0 |
| 01:35 | BlurredWe | ok |
| 01:35 | BlurredWe | is there any way of talking to the frontend via the network and sending skip forward/back type commands (remote control type) |
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| 01:36 | BlurredWe | would be cool to have a wifi pda remote control |
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| 01:57 | epssy | Chutt that setting (tv using same size as gui) has no effect - I am using 0.17 stable |
| 01:57 | epssy | is the feature currently working? |
| 02:06 | Chutt | yup, i use it. |
| 02:09 | epssy | when I just tried it again I saw a big black area over the streaming image that is the size I've set the gui, but it just disapeared... so I'm guessing that feature is broken for me |
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| 02:13 | Mdog | Hey everybody. I can watch livetv just fine and schedule recordings, but the recordings themselves are all black (looking at the .nuv files w/ mplayer confirms that.) |
| 02:13 | Mdog | Any suggestions? |
| 02:14 | Chutt | topic, please. |
| 02:14 | | * Mdog should have read /to, sorry |
| 02:14 | Chutt | np =) |
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| 06:00 | johnp__ | TheWildgoose around ? |
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| 06:51 | o_cee | Chutt? |
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| 06:52 | o_cee | http://pvrguide.no-ip.com/bbs-old/ |
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| 08:58 | Geckofiend | chutt around? |
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| 09:11 | | TheWildgoose | johnp_: slightly around. Leave a message and will try and catch it on scrollback. My folks arrived here from Aus today, so busy, busy. |
| 09:12 | | TheWildgoose | Basically backend been pretty solid since I disabled the signal strength monitor thread! Wahoo. Still got a bunch of new segfaults on the frontend to debug though, but will get through them slowly. Feels like two steps forward and one step back... Still I do like the new dvb features, and the new mythweb is very nice. Cheers all |
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| 09:18 | johnp__ | Wildgoose, Have you tried the patch I posted ? I'm wondering if the important fix is the change from uint16_t to uint32_t in dvbtypes.h. Anyway the patch should disable the monitor thread for every thing but scanwiz, so it should work for you. If you want to try and narrow it down without the patch, change dvbtypes and enable the monitor in dvbchannel. Cheers. |
| 09:23 | | TheWildgoose | Hi John, not yet tried the patch, but I was planning to try just the dvbtypes bit and leave the rest the same. Will let you know. Thanks for working on this. With a house full of people I can't really take down the TV perhaps for a few days, but will test it ASAP |
| 09:24 | johnp__ | ok |
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| 11:39 | Chutt | heh |
| 11:48 | _rkulagow_ | well, what's so amusing. you know you're just dying for someone to ask you. |
| 11:49 | Chutt | the steering wheel i ordered to play gt4 with is about an hour away right now, but it won't get delivered today :( |
| 11:49 | _rkulagow_ | that's not a heh, that's a boo! |
| 11:50 | kvandivo | he's looking at the silver lining, I'm sure.. this means he won't have any distractions today from doing real work. |
| 11:50 | Chutt | and i've got lots of that to do |
| 11:56 | Beirdo | work? That's so overrated |
| 11:57 | Beirdo | which reminds me... do invoices. |
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| 13:18 | xris | Chutt: I'm supposed to remind you again about cvs access for Beirdo (I know you probably don't have time to do it now, but figured I'd mention it on the off chance that one of us remembers about it later when you do) |
| 13:20 | Chutt | doh |
| 13:20 | Chutt | shit, sorry |
| 13:20 | Beirdo | Being busy happens :) |
| 13:20 | Chutt | i completely forgot about that :( |
| 13:21 | xris | Chutt: me, too. |
| 13:21 | Beirdo | do I need to send you an ssh key or anything? not sure how you have things set up :) |
| 13:22 | thor_ | I'm still waiting to get my $100K deposit back |
| 13:22 | Beirdo | silly thor_ :) |
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| 13:24 | Chutt | i'll let you know once i create the account |
| 13:24 | Beirdo | OK. |
| 13:25 | thor_ | oh and heh, where's my first born child at? |
| 13:26 | | * Beirdo chuckles. |
| 13:26 | Beirdo | send a wife over, that can be arranged |
| 13:29 | thor_ | heh |
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| 13:47 | thor_ | ah, Beirdo, you ever hear anything from cingular? |
| 13:48 | Beirdo | I got a response from the guy indicating he got the resume, that's it so far |
| 13:49 | thor_ | hmm, was it from Todd Allen? |
| 13:51 | Beirdo | I think so, I could check |
| 13:52 | Beirdo | yep |
| 13:52 | Beirdo | on Feb 7 |
| 13:53 | thor_ | cool, I'll prod him |
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| 14:11 | GreyFoxx | I just figured he hired someone or we just didn't fit the bill :) |
| 14:12 | Beirdo | yeah, that's what I figured too. Having outside confirmation thereof isn't all bad either :) |
| 14:13 | GreyFoxx | Yeah :) |
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| 14:19 | iwo | does anyone here know of any possibility of linux support for USB based tv capture devices? |
| 14:20 | Beirdo | don't ask on both channels, please. |
| 14:21 | iwo | sorry, just thought that devs and users would be equally as likely to know |
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| 14:43 | GeckoFiend | weee my former FE+MBE is now my dev box, my former dev box is now a FE only machine, and I have a new MBE. Not quite done but on the home stretch |
| 14:44 | Beirdo | doin' the musical machines bit, eh? |
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| 14:48 | GeckoFiend | heh yeah |
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| 14:49 | GeckoFiend | the old fronten couldn't do HD + I didn't want to add even more drives to my living room in order to store HD so I started the shuffle |
| 14:51 | GeckoFiend | all I have left to do is move the old media onto the new drive and then extend the old drives into the new LVM |
| 14:52 | Beirdo | nice |
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| 15:11 | thrasher | when i try to start mythtv i get this error: Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified mythtv: cannot connect to X server :0.0 |
| 15:12 | beavis | dont start is as root and ask further questions in #mythtv-users ;) |
| 15:12 | beavis | -is +it |
| 15:12 | thrasher | i just joined |
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| 15:34 | gr8nash | GeckoFiend you around? |
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| 16:02 | GeckoFiend | yep yep |
| 16:03 | Chutt | nope nope |
| 16:03 | Chutt | geckofiend, so |
| 16:03 | Chutt | exact seeking: good for local, back for network playback |
| 16:03 | GeckoFiend | chutt's right, I lied I'm not really here |
| 16:03 | Chutt | sticky keys: i hate em |
| 16:04 | Chutt | agressive soundcard buffering: breaks for some people still, yes. |
| 16:04 | GeckoFiend | you hold down the key to FFWD? |
| 16:04 | Chutt | i jump |
| 16:04 | Chutt | use output picture controls: breaks on ati hardware (at least) |
| 16:04 | Chutt | could be fixed, but hasn't |
| 16:04 | GeckoFiend | so then sticky keys doesn't really apply |
| 16:05 | GeckoFiend | bleh we need to just start telling people "don't use hardware with shitty drivers" |
| 16:05 | Chutt | sure it does |
| 16:05 | Chutt | it changes the jump buttons meaning |
| 16:05 | shadash | Chutt: I just got everything working in my distro :-) http://www.visualmediatech.com/files/VMC-i386-disc1.iso basically FC3 but customized to install MythTV |
| 16:05 | GeckoFiend | didn't think sticky keys did anythin on the jump buttons |
| 16:05 | Chutt | smart channel change: hate this behavior |
| 16:05 | GeckoFiend | that would be annoying as hell |
| 16:06 | Chutt | it changes the 30 second skip to be 1 second |
| 16:06 | Chutt | or something like that |
| 16:06 | Chutt | it doesn't change the _big_ jump buttons |
| 16:06 | Chutt | sched move higher: should default to 1, but still have the ui setting |
| 16:06 | Chutt | i have it off, personally |
| 16:07 | Chutt | otherwise... looks ok |
| 16:07 | shadash | thought I'd give you a heads up about the distro |
| 16:08 | GeckoFiend | kk I'll start on em in the AM. I'm still trying to get the kinks out of this new FE box |
| 16:08 | Chutt | <shrug> |
| 16:08 | Chutt | shadash, cool, but, i won't use it :p |
| 16:08 | shadash | that's fine but it might help others if you put in on mythtv.org |
| 16:09 | shadash | just the link to the distro |
| 16:09 | gr8nash | shadash wow you did that yourself?!! |
| 16:09 | shadash | I think it's cool :-( |
| 16:09 | Chutt | gotta have a website for it, and stuff |
| 16:10 | gr8nash | sorry my ""!!"" got taken outta context |
| 16:10 | gr8nash | my bad |
| 16:10 | gr8nash | didnt mean it like that |
| 16:10 | shadash | www.visualmediatech.com |
| 16:10 | Chutt | with, uh, info on it :p |
| 16:10 | Chutt | then i'll link to it |
| 16:10 | shadash | http://www.visualmediatech.com/news.php |
| 16:11 | shadash | but I'll get a better link for you |
| 16:11 | shadash | thanks :-) |
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| 16:50 | epssy | bbl all - moving house |
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| 17:18 | | TheWildgoose | johnp: Just trying out that change to the dvb vars. So far just a very quick test, but it's been up for 5 mins without crashing now - which is quite good |
| 17:18 | | TheWildgoose | I think that's probably what was wrong, wrong sized int's being passed to the ioctl! |
| 17:19 | | TheWildgoose | I will test the rest of that patch, but Chutt, my vote would be for inclusion |
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| 17:21 | | TheWildgoose | Hmm, rest of patch seems to have got mangled either by my mailreader or yours... |
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| 17:31 | Chutt | heh |
| 17:31 | Chutt | i haven't applied any patches recently :p |
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| 17:36 | Beirdo | avalanche sure did :) and what a patch! |
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| 17:44 | GeckoFiend | so I copied over all my recordings to the new box... When it finally finished I went to delete them from the old drive |
| 17:45 | GeckoFiend | what did dumbass me do? delete the new copies! |
| 17:45 | Chutt | heh |
| 17:45 | Chutt | funny |
| 17:46 | | * Beirdo chuckles |
| 17:46 | Beirdo | oops |
| 17:48 | GeckoFiend | least it's not as bad as typing "rm -rf * bak*" in the root dir as root. |
| 17:48 | | * GeckoFiend did that once years ago |
| 17:49 | Beirdo | ouch |
| 17:49 | Beirdo | re-install time :) |
| 17:49 | Baylink | I've done that twice, by accident, both on production client machines. |
| 17:49 | Beirdo | wow |
| 17:49 | Baylink | Survived both times. |
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| 17:50 | Baylink | One removed /bin/rm before it removed any important user data, due to the order of the directories in / |
| 17:50 | GeckoFiend | it could have been a lot worse. I caught it before it destroyed everything and was able to copy over the missing files from another machine |
| 17:50 | Baylink | the other ate a bunch of stuff, but I recovered most of it. |
| 17:51 | Baylink | There's a fun anecdote running around bout someone who did that on a vax, and got into things like handkeying machine code using control keys and stuff. Got it recovered... |
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| 17:59 | | TheWildgoose | Is Chris Peterson here? (Can't remember your nick) |
| 17:59 | Beirdo | no, but you can find him on -users (xris) |
| 17:59 | Beirdo | and it's Petersen :) |
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| 18:00 | | TheWildgoose | Ooops, sorry |
| 18:00 | | TheWildgoose | thanks |
| 18:00 | Beirdo | no prob |
| 18:01 | | TheWildgoose | Can't see him there right now? |
| 18:01 | | TheWildgoose | Oops, sorry |
| 18:01 | Beirdo | he's there, give him a sec |
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| 18:02 | darkfrog | I'm trying to set up MythTV on Fedora Core 3, is there a step-by-step tutorial on how to do this (I have a PVR-250) |
| 18:02 | darkfrog | ...and I'm trying to configure it with Dish Network |
| 18:05 | Beirdo | wrong channel |
| 18:06 | | TheWildgoose | Captain_Murdock: you around? |
| 18:06 | darkfrog | oh yeah |
| 18:06 | darkfrog | sorry |
| 18:06 | Chutt | ah, cool, they posted the info for that installfest at cwru |
| 18:06 | Baylink | Naw; Goose; says he left about 4 til |
| 18:06 | Chutt | i'll be going to that, if anyone cares =) |
| 18:07 | Baylink | :-P |
| 18:07 | Beirdo | Chutt: if I were in the area, I might drop by, but Toronto's too far away :) |
| 18:07 | Chutt | heh |
| 18:08 | Chutt | it's only 20 minutes or so for me |
| 18:08 | | TheWildgoose | Chris Morgan: Whatever your nick is... Are you there... (Come in number 4...) |
| 18:08 | Chutt | cmorgan |
| 18:08 | Chutt | and no, doesn't look like it |
| 18:08 | | TheWildgoose | Oh, that was an easy one!! |
| 18:08 | | TheWildgoose | Thanks |
| 18:09 | Beirdo | just too many Chrises to keep straight |
| 18:09 | | TheWildgoose | :-) |
| 18:09 | johnp | TheWildgoose, hmm, those vars (I thought where sized as per dvb spec) broken drivers ? Never mind as long as it works now. |
| 18:09 | | TheWildgoose | Yeah, it's been running for a good while now without any problems! |
| 18:09 | | TheWildgoose | Probably broken driver |
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| 18:15 | Chutt | i don't see how that would cause the crashes |
| 18:15 | Chutt | if anything, it'd just overwrite the other values in that struct |
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| 18:18 | Beirdo | my frontend still periodically segfaults with no warning, I likely have 10 coredumps accumulated. Sigh |
| 18:18 | johnp | Chutt, yeah you're correct. |
| 18:19 | Beirdo | always when I exit playback |
| 18:19 | Beirdo | but as nobody else seems to be bitching about it, I expect it's something specific about my setup |
| 18:22 | rw | hello all! The computer arrived today! :D |
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| 18:33 | Beirdo | boom. there's another for my coredump collection :) |
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| 19:25 | Torq | "Apple to buy tivo rumour" - hmm |
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| 19:57 | geckofiend | arrrrrrgggg this new box is gonna drive me nuts! |
| 19:57 | geckofiend | it refuses to show me my first tuner card and doesn't show any kind of errors |
| 20:00 | geckofiend | ahhhh when I try to record it shows: VTV_IOC_G_CODEC:: Bad address |
| 20:00 | geckofiend | 2005-02-25 20:00:06.177 TVRec: Recording Prematurely Stopped |
| 20:04 | cmorgan | TheWildgoose: you there man? |
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| 20:09 | davatar | So I asked this back a while ago and I still haven't figured it out.. Is there some advantage to queing a commercial detect for software encodes? |
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| 20:28 | Captain_Murdo | | davatar: yes, the real-time (aka record-time) processing only does blank-frame detection. the post-record processing allows other methods. |
| 20:31 | davatar | hmm.. I think I'd rather have it do it real time.. I have cpu to spare.. |
| 20:40 | Captain_Murdo | | well, wait a while then. I'm working on a way to start off the full flagging process right after a recording starts, so it would be done flagging almost right after the recording ends. |
| 20:42 | davatar | brilliant.. I was thinking about doing that.. but my mythtv development factor is a matter of how much it pisses me off, so it could been a while :) |
| 20:42 | Beirdo | if you could do it before it even writes to disk, that would be sweet for those of us using network storage :) |
| 20:42 | Captain_Murdo | | I already have it halfway done, just haven't spent much time on it over the past week. |
| 20:42 | davatar | It should be most useful for hdtv.. it could be a while waiting for that |
| 20:43 | Captain_Murdo | | Beirdo, that's the thought. I'm hoping I can stay only a few seconds behind so it will still be in the filesystem cache. |
| 20:43 | davatar | Beirdo: Not when you have a big server running your backend, and frontends that can *just* barely decode hd and encode one mpeg4 stream |
| 20:43 | Beirdo | Captain_Murdoch: sweet |
| 20:44 | Captain_Murdo | | all my storage is NAS, the disks are on my fileserver and my backends and frontends are all remote. |
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| 22:04 | Stral | anyone in australia got mythtv changing channels on an austar atlas decoder? |
| 22:05 | Captain_Murdo | | maybe over in #mythtv-users they might. |
| 22:05 | Stral | thanks |
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| 22:36 | purplefro1 | What's the most common cause of a "floating point exception" while the mythfrontend is starting up? |
| 22:37 | Captain_Murdo | | some of the users over in #mythtv-users might know. |
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| 22:42 | purplefro1 | gah, I always forget "-users" |
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| 23:22 | Beirdo | -lusers |
| 23:22 | Beirdo | :) |
| 23:28 | dopester | yep |
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