| --- | Log | opened Tue Feb 22 00:00:53 2005 |
| 00:02 | dopester | ok well i added discoveryhd and tnthd with a few things changed |
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| 00:07 | dopester | any luck? |
| 00:08 | rkulagow | dopester: talking to me? |
| 00:09 | dopester | yes |
| 00:09 | rkulagow | no; haven't tried anything since you said your brain was fried. |
| 00:10 | rkulagow | what does your /var/log/messages say when you have a successful firmware upload? |
| 00:10 | dopester | look at your /etc/hotplug/firmware.agent file |
| 00:10 | dopester | see what your FIRMWARE_DIR is |
| 00:10 | dopester | mine is /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware |
| 00:11 | rkulagow | i've got: |
| 00:11 | rkulagow | FIRMWARE_DIR=/lib/firmware |
| 00:11 | rkulagow | ls -l /lib/firmware/ |
| 00:11 | rkulagow | total 8 |
| 00:11 | rkulagow | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5908 Feb 16 22:53 dvb-fe-nxt2002.fw |
| 00:11 | dopester | hrmm.. then it should be going in |
| 00:12 | rkulagow | i don't even have a /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware directory |
| 00:12 | dopester | you messing with ota or cable? |
| 00:12 | rkulagow | cable |
| 00:12 | dopester | you got the patch in for qam in nxt2002.c? |
| 00:12 | rkulagow | don't have an aerial in the house? |
| 00:12 | rkulagow | sorry, that wasn't a question. i'm tired. |
| 00:12 | rkulagow | yes, i did. |
| 00:12 | dopester | np |
| 00:12 | dopester | qam patched azap? |
| 00:13 | rkulagow | no - wasn't aware i needed to do that. |
| 00:13 | dopester | what azap did you get? |
| 00:13 | rkulagow | dvb-kernel |
| 00:13 | dopester | dvb-apps cvs or 1.1x? |
| 00:13 | rkulagow | sorry, dvb-apps |
| 00:13 | dopester | cvs though? |
| 00:13 | rkulagow | yes |
| 00:13 | dopester | hrmm.. what cable provider? |
| 00:14 | rkulagow | comcast |
| 00:14 | dopester | using the channels.conf-qam file i put on my patches dir? |
| 00:14 | rkulagow | i just did an update on dvb-apps, and the only thing it updated was some dvb-t util stuff |
| 00:15 | dopester | i got a beer handy so my brain is starting to work |
| 00:17 | rkulagow | am i looking in the wrong directory? i don't see a channels-conf file. http://www.digitalregime.com/mythdvb/patches/ |
| 00:17 | rkulagow | but no, i don't recall doing anything to channels.conf |
| 00:17 | dopester | http://www.digitalregime.com/patches |
| 00:18 | dopester | get the channels.conf-qam in there |
| 00:18 | dopester | did you "make" a channels.conf from the antennaweb scraper? |
| 00:19 | rkulagow | ok, got the qam file. yes, i made a channels.conf with the azap scraper (if that's what you're talking about. all my channels are 8VSB) |
| 00:19 | dopester | yeah if your using qam they will be re-modulated on qam and not hte same frequency (hence your problems i bet) |
| 00:19 | dopester | try azaping c80 and up |
| 00:19 | dopester | i bet you will get a lock that way |
| 00:20 | dopester | did you try the cable scan in myths setup app? |
| 00:22 | rkulagow | ok, i'm using azap -c channels.conf-qam c81 |
| 00:22 | rkulagow | using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0' |
| 00:22 | rkulagow | tuning to 531000000 Hz |
| 00:22 | rkulagow | video pid 0x0000, audio pid 0x0000 |
| 00:22 | rkulagow | status 00 | signal eb90 | snr 9048 | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 | |
| 00:22 | rkulagow | status 00 | signal edc0 | snr 8c7c | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 | |
| 00:23 | rkulagow | etc, etc. no lock. can azap increment through the channels automatically? |
| 00:23 | dopester | not all the channels from 80 and up will be digital |
| 00:23 | dopester | not that im aware of |
| 00:23 | dopester | i just hacked up the dvb-t app to make azap |
| 00:23 | dopester | its nothing elegant |
| 00:24 | rkulagow | yes, i did the mythtv channel scan, but i'm not sure i understand what i'm seeing. i did end up with some transports, but i don't know if they're automatically populated, or if the channel scan actually worked. let me check the box first. brb. |
| 00:26 | rkulagow | is this good? |
| 00:26 | rkulagow | azap -c channels.conf-qam c93 |
| 00:26 | rkulagow | using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0' |
| 00:26 | rkulagow | tuning to 603000000 Hz |
| 00:26 | rkulagow | video pid 0x0000, audio pid 0x0000 |
| 00:26 | rkulagow | status 00 | signal fff0 | snr 0000 | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 | |
| 00:26 | rkulagow | status 1f | signal fbe0 | snr de0e | ber 00007ff8 | unc 0000000d | FE_HAS_LOCK |
| 00:26 | rkulagow | status 1f | signal fc20 | snr df28 | ber 00007ff8 | unc 0000000e | FE_HAS_LOCK |
| 00:26 | dopester | got a shit signal |
| 00:26 | dopester | if your getting unc thats uncorrectable errors |
| 00:27 | rkulagow | is that resetting at each time tick, or aggregate? |
| 00:28 | rkulagow | should unc be 0? what's a good "low" number for it to have? |
| 00:28 | dopester | 0 |
| 00:28 | dopester | im not really sure how its calculated |
| 00:28 | dopester | i didnt get a datasheet on the nxt2002 |
| 00:28 | dopester | thanks ati :) |
| 00:29 | rkulagow | so far c93, 94, 95 and 96 have a signal |
| 00:29 | dopester | well thats good |
| 00:29 | dopester | so when you did the cable scan it didn't add anything? |
| 00:29 | rkulagow | but they all have unc errors. |
| 00:30 | rkulagow | let me check what i've got. |
| 00:30 | rkulagow | (box is in another room) |
| 00:30 | dopester | the unc errors are a show stopped |
| 00:30 | dopester | er stopper |
| 00:30 | dopester | you splitting the signal a few times or multiplexing other stuff on it? |
| 00:30 | rkulagow | hrmm. i'll check the cable while i'm at it |
| 00:31 | dopester | i got a bad signal and i got it split to my cable modem and thats it |
| 00:31 | dopester | but its a long wire run |
| 00:32 | dopester | i need to move my air2pc to my production box and shorten the run by about 100 ft and see if that helps |
| 00:33 | rkulagow | i'm not injecting anything, and i'm using a 1x8 channel vision amp / splitter. the cable run is 6 feet. can i be overdriving? |
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| 00:34 | dopester | could be |
| 00:35 | dopester | might just be amplifying a weak signal to begin with never know |
| 00:35 | dopester | qam256 requires a really really good snr |
| 00:35 | rkulagow | i'm not splitting before the amp, so inbound signal should be as good as i can get from comcast. |
| 00:35 | dopester | i think the cable companies would be better off using qam64 and whacking more analog channels |
| 00:36 | HRearden | Hey. Just joined -- you guys don't happen to be talking about HTDV over QAM? |
| 00:36 | dopester | but thats just the rf engineer in me griping |
| 00:37 | dopester | you got a digital set top box by chance there rkulagow? |
| 00:38 | dopester | yeah hrearden |
| 00:39 | rkulagow | dopester: nope |
| 00:39 | HRearden | I just hooked up my PCHDTV3000 card using the new DVB drivers. I did a scan and |
| 00:39 | dopester | yeah i kinda wish i did just to see if discovery hd came in as bad as im getting or not |
| 00:39 | HRearden | just got a very few channels from 51-3,4,5 and 8 and 54-3. |
| 00:40 | HRearden | I'm told by others in the area that Adeplhia has HD channels on 105-x,x,x and 113-x-xx. I don't find those in a scan. |
| 00:40 | HRearden | If I check the frequencies that are on digitalregime.com/channels-conf.qam, one of these (I forget which) isn't even in the current DVB frequency list. |
| 00:41 | HRearden | Should that list mirror what is in Myth for QAM? |
| 00:41 | dopester | no |
| 00:41 | dopester | if the channel is encrypted myth skips it |
| 00:41 | dopester | thats really a -users question too btw |
| 00:42 | HRearden | Others on AVS forums said that these are not encrypted channels. |
| 00:42 | rkulagow | dopester: ok, i've reset the test box; i'm in setup now, added the dvb card. anything on "Advanced" that i should alter? |
| 00:42 | HRearden | Is there a list some where that shows the frequencies for each QAM channel? |
| 00:42 | dopester | try commenting out the minor_channel number check in ParseVCT in siparser.cpp.. that should get some more channels |
| 00:43 | dopester | naw |
| 00:43 | rkulagow | ok, beer run. brb. |
| 00:43 | dopester | rkulagow: you might try what i just suggested to hreardon as well.. |
| 00:43 | dopester | im heading to bed, so you kids are on your own |
| 00:43 | HRearden | thanks for the comments. I'll give it a try now! |
| 00:44 | dopester | only thing that sucks about the minor channel check is if the channel IS encrpyted and they are sending it you will hang myth :( |
| 00:44 | dopester | sending it in the VCT that is |
| 00:44 | dopester | about 1/2 of the new channels i picked up are like that |
| 00:45 | HRearden | it hangs during the scan? |
| 00:45 | dopester | no just if you try to tune to it |
| 00:45 | HRearden | ahh. |
| 00:45 | dopester | its a digital tv issue that hasn't been fixed yet |
| 00:45 | rkulagow | ok, before you go then: |
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| 00:46 | rkulagow | what should i put as a start channel in connect source to input, and should "free to air" be selected? |
| 00:46 | | * dopester waits patiently |
| 00:46 | HRearden | OK -- which line/s are the check in ParseVCT -- never been in this code before. |
| 00:46 | dopester | free to air should be selected |
| 00:46 | dopester | 2200ish i think |
| 00:47 | dopester | start chan shoudl be the channel number of a valid qam channel |
| 00:47 | dopester | although with ber like that i wonder if you will get anything watchable :( |
| 00:47 | rkulagow | ah, but we don't know that at this point, correct? |
| 00:47 | dopester | 2205 |
| 00:48 | dopester | rkulagow: yeah it might be ok some of my channels have bad unc errors but others are clean as a whistle |
| 00:48 | rkulagow | how does "c95" map to a channel number? just put in 95 in that field? |
| 00:48 | dopester | could be a resonant frequency of my amp or something else doing it so who knows |
| 00:48 | dopester | just do a full scan and select cable |
| 00:48 | HRearden | that's a "Reset()" in mine. Is the line to comment out the "if (minor_channel_number != 0") |
| 00:49 | dopester | we ought to make a #mythtv-dev-help channel for this :) |
| 00:49 | dopester | yeah hrearden |
| 00:49 | HRearden | thx. |
| 00:49 | dopester | its just tough with no opencable docs to know how the atsc cable spec is implimented |
| 00:50 | dopester | all the new channels i got were 51-0 here |
| 00:50 | dopester | time warner not comcast |
| 00:50 | HRearden | sorry -- one more q. comment out the if statement, or the ((ServiceHandler) line ? |
| 00:50 | dopester | just the if |
| 00:51 | dopester | you want it to always add it to the servicehandler or it WILL pickup nothing ;) |
| 00:51 | rkulagow | ok, i'm at scan now. there's a default transport of 243000000 (0) (0) (0), doing a "cable" scan. it's iterating through them now. |
| 00:51 | dopester | i ought to find a way to detect ntsc or something so the 2-80 scan can go faster :) |
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| 00:52 | Segments | hey dudes |
| 00:52 | Segments | mythtv's frotnend keeps complaining bout not able to connect to db? |
| 00:52 | dopester | the air2pc has an ntsc vsync detector but the dvb-api doesn't allow me to add it to the driver easily :( |
| 00:52 | dopester | segments: ask in mythtv-users |
| 00:52 | Segments | i did a apt-get install mythtv-suite |
| 00:52 | Segments | ok |
| 00:53 | rkulagow | well, we're in the 40's now. everything is still scrolling "no lock", as expected... |
| 00:53 | HRearden | dopester -- if the channels I got were 51-3,51-4..., would those have been NTSC? Can the pcHDTV3000 even pick these up? |
| 00:53 | dopester | yeah im afraid to start it at 80 since that seems to be the begining of the digital channels in most places |
| 00:53 | HRearden | I just assumed they were SDTV over QAM. |
| 00:54 | dopester | yeah they will be SDTV over qam |
| 00:54 | dopester | the 51 might be bogus anyway |
| 00:54 | HRearden | where do you get that number from? |
| 00:54 | dopester | most of my local stations have fiber feeds to time warner so they just modulate it over qam |
| 00:54 | dopester | so whatever is in the vct is what time warner sends |
| 00:55 | dopester | so if the ota major number is 5 then it come sout as 5 even though its on cable channel 94.. |
| 00:55 | rkulagow | dopester: why'd you want to know if i had a STB? |
| 00:55 | dopester | just to know if you could get digital with it thats all |
| 00:55 | HRearden | I'm trying to compare notes with other Adelphia people locally who have "real" in-the-tv QAM tuners, and they all claim their HD feeds are on 105-3,5,6,8 or 113-1,2. |
| 00:55 | dopester | oh thats probbably cable channel - program number |
| 00:56 | dopester | not the major - minor number sent in the vct table |
| 00:56 | rkulagow | 2005-02-21 23:55:25.988 DVB#0 DVB signal fbe0 | snr de9c | ber 810 | unc e |
| 00:56 | rkulagow | 2005-02-21 23:55:25.989 DVB#0 Status: LOCK. |
| 00:56 | rkulagow | Setting currenTID = 2 |
| 00:56 | rkulagow | 2005-02-21 23:55:31.109 DVB#0 DVB signal fff0 | snr 0 | ber 0 | unc 0 |
| 00:56 | rkulagow | 2005-02-21 23:55:31.111 DVB#0 Signal Lost |
| 00:56 | rkulagow | 2005-02-21 23:55:31.365 DVB#0 Signal Locked |
| 00:56 | HRearden | That's why I asked about the frequency list to see. These are not STB cable numbers. |
| 00:56 | rkulagow | got 4 of those, TID 2-5 so far |
| 00:56 | dopester | yeah i get a bunch with no tv channels |
| 00:57 | dopester | could be cable modem downlink |
| 00:57 | dopester | it adds anything it gets a lock on to the db |
| 00:57 | rkulagow | 2005-02-21 23:56:39.228 DVB#0 Status: LOCK. |
| 00:57 | rkulagow | Setting currenTID = 6 |
| 00:57 | rkulagow | 2005-02-21 23:56:44.345 DVB#0 DVB signal fff0 | snr 0 | ber 0 | unc 0 |
| 00:57 | rkulagow | 2005-02-21 23:56:44.348 DVB#0 Signal Lost |
| 00:57 | rkulagow | 2005-02-21 23:56:44.602 DVB#0 Signal Locked |
| 00:57 | rkulagow | 2005-02-21 23:56:44.648 DVB#0 Status: LOCK. |
| 00:57 | dopester | then it goes hunting for channels if it gets a vct it adds those to channel |
| 00:57 | rkulagow | of course, with my luck all the unc 0 ones aren't TV |
| 00:57 | dopester | i gotta dobounce the locking too :) |
| 00:57 | dopester | im not 100% sure the freqs are right either |
| 00:58 | dopester | they might use a different center freq for all i know |
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| 00:58 | dopester | and you are just close enough to be within the tuners spec for locking |
| 00:58 | rkulagow | maybe add which channel you're scanning at the time to the text output? |
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| 00:58 | rkulagow | ok, scan is done. |
| 00:58 | dopester | it should say "scaning qam channel 54" etc.. |
| 00:59 | rkulagow | 2005-02-21 23:58:15.677 Closing DVB channel |
| 00:59 | rkulagow | 2005-02-21 23:58:15.736 DVB#0 DVB Signal Monitor Stopped |
| 00:59 | rkulagow | that's all i've got |
| 00:59 | dopester | did you get anything in the channel editor? |
| 01:00 | rkulagow | just channels from datadirect for the pvr-250 that's in the box. when i set video source to "QAM" (clever name, eh?) it just says "(New Channel)" |
| 01:01 | dopester | try commenting out the minor channel number check i told hrearden to comment out |
| 01:01 | dopester | i got about 8 new channels with it gone |
| 01:01 | dopester | that minor check is bad idea anyway |
| 01:01 | dopester | time to make a patch to take it out i think |
| 01:03 | rkulagow | ok; s.Reset() -> comment it out, or leave it in? |
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| 01:04 | dopester | no comment out the line |
| 01:04 | dopester | if (minor_channel_number != 0) |
| 01:04 | dopester | and with that im outta here |
| 01:04 | rkulagow | yep, got it. thanks. |
| 01:04 | dopester | i'll scroll up when i wake up but i really need to get to bed |
| 01:04 | rkulagow | later |
| 01:04 | HRearden | Thanks for your help. |
| 01:05 | HRearden | rkulagow -- you have a pcHDTV or air2pc? |
| 01:05 | dopester | np sorry i couldn't help last week.. |
| 01:05 | rkulagow | air2pc |
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| 01:17 | HRearden | rkulagow, have you compared what you are getting with the card vs. what others in avsforum.com in your cable market say they get in unencrypted QAM? |
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| 04:25 | shodan | I just noticed that at least for some channel , there's no teletext for ads , maybe this could be useful to increase to commercial flagging accuracy ? |
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| 08:52 | levon | so... the dbox2 stream channel / recorder is almost implemented. |
| 08:52 | levon | the dbox is configurable in the mythsetup |
| 08:52 | levon | only one thing remains: |
| 08:52 | levon | I added channels using mythsetup for the dbox feed |
| 08:53 | levon | but they don't appear in the frontend |
| 08:53 | levon | (they do appear in the epg, though) |
| 08:53 | levon | so my question is: where is the sql statement that loads the channels for the frontend? |
| 08:54 | levon | I guess I need to either tweak the where clause a bit or to change the channel setup to make them appear in the frontend |
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| 09:08 | Anduin | levon - most of that should be in tv_rec.cpp and channel.cpp |
| 09:08 | levon | k |
| 09:08 | levon | thanks |
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| 09:41 | shadash | Anybody know of a good hosting solution for a Myth based distro (distributing iso's) Currently we have a shared hosting site but bandwidth isn't free... Ideas? |
| 09:41 | levon | a-ha |
| 09:42 | levon | I think I got it: |
| 09:42 | levon | TVRec::DoGetNextChannel() queries the next channel by using the capturecard.cardid |
| 09:42 | levon | does that makes sense? |
| 09:42 | levon | you can only stay on one card that way |
| 09:42 | levon | in a system with multiple cards, you need to change channels accross the cards |
| 09:43 | levon | If noone objects, I'll change that and that will be included in my dbox patch. |
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| 09:45 | GreyFoxx | what is a "dbox" ? |
| 09:46 | levon | the nokia dbox2 is a dvb receiver. |
| 09:46 | Anduin | levon - sounds like a good way to have it rejected, crossing cards makes things a lot more complicated |
| 09:46 | GreyFoxx | ahh |
| 09:46 | levon | GreyFoxx, I've extended myth to use it as a "dvb card" |
| 09:47 | levon | Anduin, hm. why is that? I though mythtv supports multiple cards in one backend. |
| 09:47 | levon | s/though/thought/ |
| 09:47 | levon | so when you zap through your channels it should use the next channel no matter what card it is on |
| 09:47 | Anduin | levon - take the simple case where you are viewing card one and card two is recording, you swith channels to something only available on card 2 |
| 09:48 | levon | hm |
| 09:48 | | * levon scratches head |
| 09:48 | levon | we're running into a design problem here, I guess. |
| 09:48 | GreyFoxx | Anduin: Well, wouldn't you think a simple "That card is in use" warning should just pop up, and no change occur ? |
| 09:49 | Anduin | GreyFoxx - What I think doesn't matter. |
| 09:49 | GreyFoxx | Heh |
| 09:49 | levon | hehe, what does matter, then? |
| 09:49 | GreyFoxx | What Chutt thinks :) |
| 09:49 | Anduin | levon - getting an actual dev to go "oh that is a wonderful idea" I anticipate failure. |
| 09:50 | levon | in the long run I think everyone would like to be able to use any card in the system. |
| 09:50 | levon | well, I need it in this scenario already. I have Dvb-t and dvb-c supplied through different cards |
| 09:50 | levon | I want to be able to zap through both cards, since both give me different channels |
| 09:51 | levon | ok, I'll just implement that in my patch. |
| 09:51 | levon | if it get's rejected, I need to maintain it myself as an external patch |
| 09:51 | _GeckoFiend | levon Changing channels across cards is fine as long as you account for tuners being in use in a graceful manner |
| 09:51 | levon | but I think that in the long run, many users might want to have that cross-card-feature |
| 09:51 | levon | _GeckoFiend, agreed |
| 09:51 | _GeckoFiend | You also have to tear down things and rebuild them |
| 09:52 | _GeckoFiend | If tuner 1 is on one machine and tuner 2 is on another you have to account for that. |
| 09:52 | Anduin | exactly, your whole card id changes, you'll also need to make it so you know the other channes are there just on a different card |
| 09:52 | _GeckoFiend | it gets really complicated really fast |
| 09:52 | _GeckoFiend | which is why I didn't fuck with it when I added cross input channel changes |
| 09:53 | levon | I understood multiple card and frontend capability was a major goal of myth |
| 09:53 | levon | so it needs to be accounted anyway |
| 09:53 | levon | also it currently knows when "all inputs are currently in use" |
| 09:53 | _GeckoFiend | levon mutliple cards work just fine, |
| 09:53 | levon | so there is means of that already |
| 09:53 | _GeckoFiend | just switch to the new card and go |
| 09:54 | _GeckoFiend | most folks don't watch live TV across different cards so nobody has been too concerned about it :-p |
| 09:54 | levon | hehe, ic |
| 09:54 | levon | ok. I'll continue on my road then |
| 09:54 | levon | and hope that I don't end up in any dead ends :P |
| 09:55 | levon | thanks for your 2cents, guys. |
| 09:56 | levon | further note: since in a multi backend scenario we have a master backend, the accounting can and should be done on the master. |
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| 12:30 | whimboo | hi, who is responsible for the cvs server? |
| 12:31 | Chutt | me. |
| 12:31 | whimboo | i noticed a permission problem when checking out a release |
| 12:31 | whimboo | following warning i get |
| 12:31 | whimboo | cvs checkout: warning: cannot open /var/lib/mythcvs/CVSROOT/val-tags read/write: Permission denied |
| 12:32 | Chutt | <shrug> |
| 12:32 | Chutt | use head |
| 12:33 | whimboo | the cvs command i used: cvs -qz9 co -r release-0-16 mythdvd |
| 12:34 | Chutt | and -z9 is rather excessive. |
| 12:34 | whimboo | mmh but i need that release version.. how should i get it over head? |
| 12:34 | Chutt | why? |
| 12:34 | mikegrb | you would download the tarball from the webpage |
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| 12:35 | whimboo | i write a script which automates the building process for deb-files. I want that the user can select the release version, if he wants to use an older one in case of problems |
| 12:36 | Chutt | cvs isn't guaranteed to build for older release tags. |
| 12:36 | Chutt | the release tarballs are. |
| 12:37 | whimboo | why is cvs not guaranteed? |
| 12:38 | Chutt | because it's not. |
| 12:38 | whimboo | nice answer! ;) so whats with release-0-17 |
| 12:38 | Chutt | just use the release tarballs. |
| 12:39 | Chutt | anything else is stupid. |
| 12:39 | Chutt | if you want a release, use the distribution tarballs. |
| 12:39 | Chutt | if you want cvs, use head. |
| 12:42 | whimboo | since i'm working on mozilla i have to use this option and loved it to switch between trunk and branch. Ok, mythtv has only a release tag but this should also work. |
| 12:43 | Chutt | no, it shouldn't. |
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| 12:53 | whimboo | mmh. ok. but the download links making it hard to grab the right file. :( |
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| 13:03 | shadash | http://www.visualmediatech.com/files/VMC-i386-disc1.iso ;-) Gotta tweak out some scripts so they run from firstboot but it's working :-) |
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| 13:12 | _GeckoFiend | all in favor of dropping releases all together and sticking with CVS for everyone raise your hand |
| 13:13 | | * Chutt raises hand |
| 13:13 | levon | w000t! cvs 4 every1one |
| 13:13 | GreyFoxx | heh |
| 13:19 | _GeckoFiend | Chutt I'm begining to understand why you're such a curmudgon sometimes. I really want to smack some of these people sometimes |
| 13:19 | _GeckoFiend | hell even the "lets rename time stretch" thread got on my nerves for some reason |
| 13:20 | Chutt | =) |
| 13:21 | GreyFoxx | Heh, I basically skim the subjects of the -users list now and mass tag/delete almost all of them :) |
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| 13:25 | shadash | anybody know of a way to set the mysql root passwd in a shell script? |
| 13:26 | shadash | ie not this... |
| 13:26 | shadash | # mysql -u root mysql |
| 13:26 | shadash | mysql> UPDATE user SET Password=PASSWORD('ROOT_PWD') WHERE user='root'; |
| 13:26 | shadash | mysql> FLUSH PRIVILEGES; |
| 13:26 | shadash | mysql> quit |
| 13:26 | GreyFoxx | mysql -uroot password 'password' ? |
| 13:26 | GreyFoxx | mysqladmin -uroot reload |
| 13:26 | GreyFoxx | something like that ? |
| 13:27 | shadash | that's what I'm looking for, thanks |
| 13:27 | GreyFoxx | when you run mysql_install_db for the first time it tells you how to set the initial root password |
| 13:28 | thor_ | no releases? |
| 13:28 | thor_ | what about the guys in Sales and Marketing? |
| 13:31 | _GeckoFiend | they can just rebrand CVS as our continuous release system |
| 13:31 | thor_ | check |
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| 13:32 | aficionado | Hi, I am thinking of building a DVR. Using a TV tuner (like Hauppagge TV GO Plus) you can get the signal into the PC but whats a good option for getting it from the PC to TV? |
| 13:32 | _GeckoFiend | shopping around for a new case for a FE only machine... leaning towards http://ahanix.com/ahanix_product.asp?pid=27 but it's $176 :/ |
| 13:32 | GreyFoxx | aficionado: try #mythtv-users |
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| 13:33 | GreyFoxx | _GeckoFiend: I'm on the hunt for a new one to go in my projector room. The one I want starts at $325 US as a base cost... ouch |
| 13:33 | aficionado | GreyFoxx: oops... sorry, I should have paid attention to the topic :( |
| 13:33 | GreyFoxx | That one looks nice though |
| 13:34 | _GeckoFiend | I'd just reuses my d.vine 5 but it can't hold the silverstone fanless PSU, and it's too big for my entertainment center. |
| 13:34 | GreyFoxx | http://www.atechfabrication.com/products/atech_3000.htm |
| 13:34 | GreyFoxx | That is what I want |
| 13:35 | GreyFoxx | except without the rackmount frontpannel |
| 13:35 | GreyFoxx | and with a tray slot for the dvdrom |
| 13:36 | _GeckoFiend | yeah I looked at his stuff a while ago nice stuff but expensive |
| 13:37 | _GeckoFiend | hell I hated giving up the $220 for the d.vine 5 |
| 13:37 | GreyFoxx | yeah. I'd LOVE to have one of those with the front buttons and volume knob etc, but I'm acheap bugger :) |
| 13:37 | Chutt | i like my little aria case |
| 13:37 | GreyFoxx | the aria are microatx ? |
| 13:38 | Chutt | yeah |
| 13:38 | GreyFoxx | cool |
| 13:38 | agd5f | anyone used the silverstone LC10M? I perfer the dvine4, but I'd like to integrate the IR. |
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| 13:38 | agd5f | s/perfer/prefer/ |
| 13:38 | Chutt | it's neat in that it's only got the one bigass 120mm powersupply fan |
| 13:39 | _GeckoFiend | heh had I known my d5 wouldn't have fit in my entertainment center I'd have probably gotten an aria. |
| 13:40 | Chutt | too deep? |
| 13:40 | _GeckoFiend | hmmm I've been toying with building my own case for a while maybe I should |
| 13:44 | _GeckoFiend | yeah it' a hair too deep |
| 13:45 | _GeckoFiend | when I put an hdtv set in my living room I'm going get a new entertainment center |
| 13:45 | Chutt | i made mine =) |
| 13:45 | Chutt | though, i want to make it a bit prettier |
| 13:46 | _GeckoFiend | first I have to convice the wife that HDTV is "needed". Seeing Myth on my LCD in the office has primed the pump |
| 13:46 | _GeckoFiend | that's always an option |
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| 13:50 | GreyFoxx | _GeckoFiend: Hehe I took my GF to a friends and we watched several hours of stuff on his projector. That was all I needed to convince her :) |
| 13:50 | kvandivo | you know.. i suspect that half the time they are like, 'ya, whatever. i'll act amused because it seems to make you happy' |
| 13:50 | kvandivo | but, i digress |
| 13:51 | GreyFoxx | She was the one who started asking me if we could get one. and keep sbugging me to know when it's done and installed :) |
| 13:51 | GreyFoxx | but most often you are likely right :) |
| 13:52 | _GeckoFiend | GreyFoxx I figure it shouldn't be too hard of a sell. 48 hours after the Myth box was hooked up to the TV she wanted the Tivo gone. |
| 13:52 | _GeckoFiend | A week later she started making suggestions. |
| 13:52 | GreyFoxx | Haha mine use to say she would never use it. Then fell in love with skipping commercials and recording stuff, now she uses more of the overal functionality than me. the hardest was getting her to use mythmusic but now she uses it daily :) |
| 13:53 | GreyFoxx | and the fact that all of the content is available on every tv makes it easier :) |
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| 15:23 | shadash | can someone test something for me... (this is for setting up mysql from s script) |
| 15:23 | shadash | this works... |
| 15:23 | shadash | mysql -u root mysql -e "UPDATE user SET Password=PASSWORD('mythtviscool') WHERE \ |
| 15:23 | shadash | user='root'; \ |
| 15:23 | shadash | FLUSH PRIVILEGES;" |
| 15:23 | shadash | but does this command? |
| 15:23 | shadash | mysql -u root -p=mythtviscool < /usr/share/doc/mythtv-0.17/database/mc.sql |
| 15:25 | Beirdo | and why is this a development issue? |
| 15:25 | shadash | b/c I'm putting it on my distro that's based on myth |
| 15:25 | shadash | plus don't have a myth system at work |
| 15:26 | shadash | trying to make things "just work" for users |
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| 15:35 | shadash | reread the man... looks like it will work |
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| 16:06 | o_cee | isn't mc.sql obsolete? |
| 16:07 | Beirdo | it creates the db and the user, no? |
| 16:08 | o_cee | thought that was all handled with dbcheck now |
| 16:08 | Chutt | no. |
| 16:08 | o_cee | allright, long time since i installed ;) |
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| 16:58 | Chutt | there |
| 16:58 | Chutt | bugzilla upgrade looks to be complete |
| 16:59 | thor_ | whooo hoooo |
| 16:59 | Chutt | eh, not really :p |
| 17:03 | Chutt | been meaning to do it, is all |
| 17:03 | Chutt | 2.16.5 -> 2.18 |
| 17:03 | Chutt | so, new stuff + security fixes |
| 17:06 | Beirdo | nice |
| 17:06 | Beirdo | good to get stuff like that done once in a while |
| 17:08 | Baylink | Cool. Any chance you could poke that wikilink, too? |
| 17:08 | Chutt | i'll do it once the data's migrated over. |
| 17:09 | Baylink | Ok. Jon.Somebody is looking at translation of the page data*Ghod* the net weather is bad today |
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| 17:18 | Baylink | That laged about 5 minutes |
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| 17:19 | thor_ | My my, the users are testy today |
| 17:20 | Beirdo | hmm? |
| 17:20 | thor_ | "I wanna play AVI's", "Shut up you pirate", "No you shut up" |
| 17:20 | | * thor_ should really stop reading -users |
| 17:21 | | * o_cee has been clean for 6 months now |
| 17:21 | Beirdo | ah, you mean the mailing list. |
| 17:21 | Beirdo | I skim it these days, way too much cruft |
| 17:21 | thor_ | cruft is the word |
| 17:23 | Chutt | heh |
| 17:24 | Chutt | the guy that wrote the driver for plextor's stuff is going to get some hardware sent to me |
| 17:24 | thor_ | dig 'em |
| 17:24 | Beirdo | cool |
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| 17:29 | o_cee | i'll probably buy a hd screen when i move, so i'll (hopefully) do a rewrite of gant and make it gant-wide as well :) only problem is that the date for moving in got pushed back a month.. :/ |
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| 17:30 | Beirdo | don't forget to keep the 4:3 version for us poor losers without HD :) |
| 17:31 | o_cee | i really hope it'll be possible to make that automagic |
| 17:31 | Chutt | how, though? |
| 17:31 | o_cee | yeah dunno |
| 17:33 | o_cee | guess all the values could just be scaled, but that probably won't work.. so i guess it'll have to be two different themes.. would be a little better if we had two xml's instead at least, so that gfx can be shared |
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| 17:37 | thor_ | libmythui widgets that take scale/don't scale flags |
| 17:38 | Chutt | naw |
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| 17:38 | thor_ | ok, preserve_aspect_ratio ? |
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| 17:39 | Chutt | different amount of content visible, though |
| 17:39 | Chutt | can't just scale |
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| 17:42 | o_cee | and the space will probably be better used in different ways instead of just scaling.. ah well. |
| 17:43 | o_cee | but being able to share stuff and keeping it in one theme will probably be a good idea |
| 17:43 | o_cee | maybe seperate stuff like the colors and button definitions, from the layout.. |
| 17:44 | thor_ | some notion of TeX-ish stretchability, plus ability to ask if the aspect ratio is close to 4:3 or 16:9 ? |
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| 17:47 | | AtomicBanana | 2 |
| 17:47 | | AtomicBanana | ahem... damn keyboard ;) |
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| 17:58 | thor_ | 2005-02-21 19:00:05.086 Unknown command: UNKNOWN_COMMAND |
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| 17:58 | thor_ | any idea why I'm getting those every 1/100th of a second in mythbackend output ? |
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| 18:00 | kvandivo | at least at that frequency they aren't that bothersome.. ;) |
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| 18:06 | Chutt | heh |
| 18:06 | Chutt | what's sending UNKNOWN_COMMAND? |
| 18:06 | thor_ | haven't the slightest |
| 18:07 | thor_ | there's a MBE with no local frontend, a remote BE with FE local to that, and a remote FE |
| 18:07 | thor_ | I'll poke around at it |
| 18:07 | Chutt | looks like it might be getting stuck in a loop |
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| 18:08 | thor_ | my mythbackend.log ( > redirect) is 300 megs (2-3 days uptime) |
| 18:08 | thor_ | it comes and goes |
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| 18:08 | Chutt | what's the _first_ Unknown command: line? |
| 18:09 | Chutt | it should be something other than 'UNKNOWN COMMAND' |
| 18:09 | thor_ | taking a sec to get this into an editor |
| 18:09 | thor_ | 16 lines of: |
| 18:10 | thor_ | 2005-02-21 19:00:00.091 Unknown command: |
| 18:10 | thor_ | followed by bazillions of: |
| 18:10 | thor_ | 2005-02-21 19:00:00.252 Unknown command: UNKNOWN_COMMAND |
| 18:10 | thor_ | above that: |
| 18:11 | thor_ | 2005-02-21 16:49:10.437 adding: lcd as a client (events: 1) |
| 18:11 | thor_ | 2005-02-21 18:00:02.364 Started recording "The NewsHour With Jim Lehrer" on channel: 1022 on cardid: 2, sourceid 1 |
| 18:11 | thor_ | 2005-02-21 18:15:02.025 Started recording "Wuthering Heights" on channel: 1055 on cardid: 1, sourceid 1 |
| 18:11 | thor_ | 2005-02-21 18:15:02.667 Changing from None to RecordingOnly |
| 18:11 | thor_ | the bazillions are occassionaly interspersed with something like: |
| 18:11 | thor_ | 2005-02-21 19:00:00.526 Unknown command: 5 |
| 18:15 | NightMonkey | Hi, all. I found a "bug" in MythWeather - I posted my solution to mythtv-users. Apparently not all MythWeather settings are placed into the DB? |
| 18:15 | NightMonkey | (mythtv-users mailing list, that is) |
| 18:16 | thor_ | is it possibly I've just stupidly messed up JobThreads ? |
| 18:16 | thor_ | err, it is |
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