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| 01:23 | rkulagow | hey. dopester: here? |
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| 08:06 | _GeckoFiend | Morning folks |
| 08:06 | o_cee | hiya |
| 08:06 | o_cee | 2pm :) |
| 08:07 | dja | well it's morning to some of us :-) |
| 08:15 | dopester | yawn |
| 08:34 | _GeckoFiend | bah I've been up for 3.5 hours :-p |
| 08:40 | o_cee | GeckoFiend, just tried the wide theme briefly, doesn't look good on 4:3 :) but i just noticed there's no altarea for the desc if you haven't got any preview like me |
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| 08:47 | _GeckoFiend | yeah, I need to clean up the alt areas, as well as the "no programs" stuff and the like on a lot of screens |
| 08:47 | _GeckoFiend | and yeah it'll look like crap on 4:3 |
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| 09:45 | choudesh | Hello all, anyone around? |
| 09:45 | o_cee | choudesh, yeah, topic please |
| 09:46 | choudesh | oops, need to jump to users. |
| 09:46 | choudesh | o_cee, just needed some help with Ubuntu and the device for the capture card |
| 09:46 | o_cee | #mythtv-users |
| 09:46 | choudesh | o_cee, I know. ;-) |
| 09:47 | choudesh | o_cee, doesn't seem anyone is around. |
| 09:47 | choudesh | o_cee, mind helping? |
| 09:47 | o_cee | no, i'm busy |
| 09:47 | choudesh | ok. sorry to bother. |
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| 09:52 | gratz|work | does anyone know if cx88-dvb module works on 2.6.10 kernel? |
| 09:52 | gratz|work | having problems loading it |
| 10:05 | _GeckoFiend | gratz|work /topic |
| 10:05 | o_cee | Chutt, maybe more people would see an OnJoin message from chanserv? |
| 10:07 | gratz|work | oops |
| 10:08 | gratz|work | sorry |
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| 10:53 | jams | _GeckoFiend, does the Minimalist theme have support for more then one row of icons? I have some rows that are offscreen that normally I would use the up/down arrow keys to access. Up/down isn't working in this case. |
| 10:54 | _GeckoFiend | jams_ no it doesn't. Which menus have more than 6 items? |
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| 10:56 | jams | By default none of them. This happened after I switched to my own copy of the menu which has some extra buttons |
| 10:57 | jams | Thats cool I will modify the menus to have less then 6 |
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| 11:28 | thor_ | 2005-02-21 11:00:09.173 Unknown command: UNKNOWN_COMMAND |
| 11:28 | thor_ | 2005-02-21 11:00:09.223 Unknown command: UNKNOWN_COMMAND |
| 11:28 | thor_ | 2005-02-21 11:00:09.253 Unknown command: UNKNOWN_COMMAND |
| 11:28 | thor_ | 2005-02-21 11:00:09.263 Unknown command: UNKNOWN_COMMAND |
| 11:28 | thor_ | 2005-02-21 11:00:09.272 Unknown command: UNKNOWN_COMMAND |
| 11:28 | thor_ | 2005-02-21 11:00:09.282 Unknown command: UNKNOWN_COMMAND |
| 11:28 | thor_ | 2005-02-21 11:00:09.293 Unknown command: UNKNOWN_COMMAND |
| 11:28 | thor_ | 2005-02-21 11:00:09.302 Unknown command: UNKNOWN_COMMAND |
| 11:28 | thor_ | 2005-02-21 11:00:09.313 Unknown command: UNKNOWN_COMMAND |
| 11:28 | thor_ | 2005-02-21 11:00:09.322 Unknown command: UNKNOWN_COMMAND |
| 11:29 | o_cee | heh |
| 11:29 | thor_ | that seems a bit odd |
| 11:29 | thor_ | every tenth of a second |
| 11:29 | thor_ | might explain why things seems a bit sluggish |
| 11:29 | Beirdo | hey look, the unknown command is unknown :) |
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| 11:39 | _GeckoFiend | LOL my office mate just explained the concept of a "DP" scene to one of the Indian programmers |
| 11:45 | Beirdo | oh god |
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| 13:35 | thor_ | Chutt, you about? |
| 13:38 | thor_ | Anyway, if you catch this on scrollback ... porting libmyth AudioOutput to mfd, and thinking about more "standard" ways to add network based audio output (music viz), etc. |
| 13:39 | thor_ | Came across RAOP, which seems nice |
| 13:39 | thor_ | and would make things work with airport expresses |
| 13:39 | thor_ | but ... stupid old apple has an AES encryption over the audio data |
| 13:40 | thor_ | It is trivial to overcome (see http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=119473&package_id=130187) |
| 13:40 | thor_ | but there are reverse engineered keys in there |
| 13:41 | thor_ | we have a problem with reverse engineered keys in myth cvs? |
| 13:43 | thor_ | if necessary, I guess I could start a trivial sourceforge project (libdeAppleRaopAes?) and do a runtime link |
| 13:45 | thor_ | see also: http://www.nanocrew.net/blog/apple/revairtunes.html |
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| 13:47 | Beirdo | I would think it's likely better to keep that external, but that's Chutt's call :) |
| 13:47 | thor_ | it's farily subtle, as it's only a PUBLIC key that is required |
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| 13:48 | Beirdo | :) |
| 13:48 | Beirdo | well, I guess we'll see what he thinks when he gets in |
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| 14:12 | mikegrb | Beirdo: you just try calling? |
| 14:13 | Beirdo | yep |
| 14:13 | Beirdo | to the conference number, mistyped |
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| 14:13 | Beirdo | I meant to type 501, I hit 502. did it ring the phones and stuff? |
| 14:13 | mikegrb | nah |
| 14:14 | mikegrb | just happened to be playing with some stuff and saw it on the console |
| 14:14 | Beirdo | Oh good. I'd hate to be responsible for waking a baby :) |
| 14:14 | mikegrb | heidi wasn't liking that the sip phone just hangs up when the phone number dialed is busy |
| 14:14 | mikegrb | was adjusting that |
| 14:14 | Beirdo | ahh |
| 14:15 | Beirdo | that would be annoying |
| 14:15 | Beirdo | should go to Congestion |
| 14:15 | mikegrb | since it is a trunk my end is responsible for generating busy signal and other type stuff |
| 14:15 | Beirdo | fun. :) |
| 14:15 | mikegrb | aye, but it's a hard phone, recognizes congestion and drops the call :/ |
| 14:16 | mikegrb | well have to futz with it's setup to see if I can tell it to not do that, the ata's properly generate the busy signal |
| 14:16 | Beirdo | oops, just putzed my xchat :) |
| 14:17 | Beirdo | was trying to add a server entry for my proxied connection to the other server, and told it to close this one by mistake (oops) |
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| 14:18 | marc_gerges | hello |
| 14:18 | marc_gerges | I have a dual tuner box. |
| 14:18 | marc_gerges | recording works nicely. |
| 14:18 | marc_gerges | But I just noticed watching livetv on tuner 1, it claimed that tuner to record a preprogrammed show |
| 14:18 | marc_gerges | although tuner2 was free |
| 14:18 | | * Beirdo wonders if this is going to progress to a user support question |
| 14:19 | marc_gerges | .....ugh |
| 14:19 | marc_gerges | yes |
| 14:19 | mikegrb | it is |
| 14:19 | Beirdo | topic.. :) |
| 14:19 | marc_gerges | sorry. Wrong forum |
| 14:19 | marc_gerges | yes, I know |
| 14:19 | marc_gerges | sorry, guys. Free beer for everyone who comes and gets :-) |
| 14:20 | marc_gerges | I'll move over -bye |
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| 14:28 | thor_ | error closing /tmp/cvs-serv11801/./CVS/Repository |
| 14:28 | thor_ | No space left on device |
| 14:28 | thor_ | bah |
| 14:31 | Beirdo | that don't sound good |
| 14:31 | Chutt | just wait a few minutes, and it'll clear itself out |
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| 14:34 | thor_ | yup |
| 14:34 | thor_ | you see my scrollback on RAOP? |
| 14:34 | Chutt | nope |
| 14:34 | thor_ | [13:36:22] <thor_> Chutt, you about? |
| 14:34 | thor_ | [13:39:34] <thor_> Anyway, if you catch this on scrollback ... porting libmyth AudioOutput to mfd, and thinking about |
| 14:34 | thor_ | more "standard" ways to add network based audio output (music viz), etc. |
| 14:34 | thor_ | [13:39:56] <thor_> Came across RAOP, which seems nice |
| 14:34 | thor_ | [13:40:07] <thor_> and would make things work with airport expresses |
| 14:35 | thor_ | [13:40:39] <thor_> but ... stupid old apple has an AES encryption over the audio data |
| 14:35 | thor_ | [13:41:26] <thor_> It is trivial to overcome (see http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=119473&package_id=130187) |
| 14:35 | thor_ | [13:41:39] <thor_> but there are reverse engineered keys in there |
| 14:35 | thor_ | [13:41:55] <thor_> we have a problem with reverse engineered keys in myth cvs? |
| 14:35 | thor_ | [13:43:55] <thor_> if necessary, I guess I could start a trivial sourceforge project (libdeAppleRaopAes?) and do a runtime link |
| 14:35 | thor_ | [13:46:06] <thor_> see also: http://www.nanocrew.net/blog/apple/revairtunes.html |
| 14:35 | thor_ | [13:47:12] Signoff: beavis (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) |
| 14:35 | thor_ | [13:47:51] <Beirdo> I would think it's likely better to keep that external, but that's Chutt's call :) |
| 14:35 | thor_ | [13:48:14] <thor_> it's farily subtle, as it's only a PUBLIC key that is required |
| 14:35 | Chutt | eh |
| 14:35 | Chutt | there's no more standard protocol? |
| 14:36 | thor_ | RAOP is a nice standard |
| 14:36 | thor_ | just Apple added a twist |
| 14:36 | thor_ | (only required for Airport express interaction) |
| 14:38 | Chutt | why not just use rtsp? |
| 14:38 | Chutt | or whatnot |
| 14:38 | thor_ | they are extremely similar |
| 14:40 | thor_ | for music viz, it would be RTSP. Add the AES encryption, and the same code will talk to an airport express |
| 14:40 | Chutt | why's music viz any different than remote playback? |
| 14:42 | thor_ | file access/modify/copy protocols versus PCM stream ? |
| 14:42 | thor_ | (was that your question)? |
| 14:42 | Chutt | not really |
| 14:43 | Chutt | you've already got it streaming audio around, no? |
| 14:43 | thor_ | yes |
| 14:43 | Chutt | question was, why is music viz any different from that? |
| 14:43 | thor_ | 'cause the client does not do any decoding |
| 14:43 | Chutt | why not? :p |
| 14:43 | thor_ | headless mfd |
| 14:43 | Chutt | that's just a less complicated case |
| 14:44 | Chutt | and actually, things may work better if mfd didn't do any decoding that it didn't have to |
| 14:44 | Chutt | ie, it just streamed the file on demand, and the frontend played it |
| 14:45 | thor_ | bad for lightweight clients |
| 14:45 | thor_ | (eg. Zauraus) |
| 14:45 | Chutt | which can decode mp3 just fine |
| 14:45 | thor_ | right, but I'd rather use it to control another box |
| 14:45 | Chutt | and you could always stream the pcm data |
| 14:45 | Chutt | ie., 'decoding it didn't have to' |
| 14:46 | Chutt | right, there's a difference between 'play this here', or 'play on that machine'. |
| 14:46 | thor_ | yes |
| 14:46 | thor_ | right now, one client can cycle through every mfd and control all playing |
| 14:47 | thor_ | many to one, one to many, and many to many |
| 14:47 | Chutt | so, how's video playback going to work? |
| 14:47 | thor_ | heh, no headless video |
| 14:48 | Chutt | so? |
| 14:48 | Chutt | is video playback going to live in the mfd? |
| 14:48 | thor_ | no |
| 14:48 | Chutt | how's it going to negotiate control of the audio device? |
| 14:48 | Chutt | what about sounds in the ui? |
| 14:49 | thor_ | I'm note saying the client should not be able to decode, I'm just saying I want to preserve the ability to control audio on another box |
| 14:49 | Chutt | i'm saying you don't lose that at all. |
| 14:50 | Chutt | i think you're concentrating solely on audio, and not thinking about it within mythtv :p |
| 14:50 | thor_ | audio is a special case |
| 14:50 | Chutt | why? |
| 14:51 | thor_ | cause it can be headless |
| 14:51 | Chutt | it shouldn't be |
| 14:51 | Chutt | there has to be _some_ ui |
| 14:53 | thor_ | heh, either we are not disagreeing, or I'm being stupid and missing something important |
| 14:53 | Chutt | think about the simplest case - one machine running everything |
| 14:53 | Chutt | how does video playback work? |
| 14:54 | Chutt | is the vis stuff really going to go over the network for that? |
| 14:54 | Chutt | have you really gotten the vis effects in sync with the audio playback over the network? |
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| 14:55 | toyowheelin | hey all |
| 14:55 | thor_ | to my untrained eye, yes |
| 14:55 | thor_ | and yes, I was planning on having the viz go over sockets if it's all one box |
| 14:56 | thor_ | but that may well be insanely stupid |
| 14:56 | Chutt | well, it's not necessarily, but, if it doesn't have to be, then why? |
| 14:57 | thor_ | cause then it matters not a wit if it is, or is not the same box |
| 14:57 | Chutt | uncompressed audio's fairly big, though |
| 14:57 | toyowheelin | I have a Gallant InterVision IV-550 tv tuner and I am running gentoo, but I cant figure out how to tell the kernel what card and tuner it has and the PLL frequency |
| 14:57 | Chutt | toyowheelin, read the topic. |
| 14:57 | toyowheelin | wups |
| 14:58 | toyowheelin | sorry Chutt |
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| 14:58 | thor_ | for video, the intention is that mfd knows what's available, passes a list, list includes URL like file://a_video.nuv |
| 14:58 | thor_ | or, mdcap://some_other_box/a_video.nuv |
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| 14:58 | thor_ | but that is still back on enveloppe thinking |
| 14:59 | thor_ | err, back of |
| 14:59 | Chutt | but then it has to negotiate somehow to turn off audio playback, etc |
| 14:59 | thor_ | yes, but that's trivial |
| 14:59 | Chutt | i'm just having trouble understanding what the line between the local client + mfd is |
| 14:59 | Chutt | really think it should all just be one thing |
| 14:59 | thor_ | heh, quite possible |
| 14:59 | thor_ | err, possibly |
| 15:01 | Chutt | heh |
| 15:01 | Chutt | anyway |
| 15:02 | Chutt | going to shut down to stick the air2pc card in this box |
| 15:02 | | * kvandivo grins excitedly and enjoys living vicariously through others. |
| 15:02 | thor_ | I'll keep plugging, do we have a position on the RSA public key issue? |
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| 15:02 | thor_ | oh darn |
| 15:03 | kvandivo | i guess that means, "do whatever you want and I'll fully support your decision" |
| 15:03 | thor_ | hmmm, I could run with that opinion |
| 15:03 | kvandivo | if you do.... you didn't hear it from me |
| 15:03 | thor_ | anyway, this will take me a few days |
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| 15:15 | Chutt | there we go |
| 15:15 | Chutt | air2pc in, ram upgraded slightly, new monitor all setup |
| 15:16 | thor_ | [15:03:16] <thor_> I'll keep plugging, do we have a position on the RSA public key issue? |
| 15:16 | thor_ | [15:03:22] Signoff: Chutt (Remote closed the connection) |
| 15:16 | Chutt | heh |
| 15:16 | Chutt | uh, i dunno |
| 15:17 | Chutt | if it's just the public key |
| 15:17 | thor_ | it could actually just be a runtime load of a text file |
| 15:17 | Chutt | that works |
| 15:17 | thor_ | it's a publix key, but it was hexedit'd out of iTunes (ie. not published somewhere as a public key) |
| 15:17 | thor_ | err, public |
| 15:18 | thor_ | I'll go with the text file for the time being |
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| 15:22 | thor_ | if you're going for QAM on the Air2pc, there are some issues with channel detection |
| 15:22 | rkulagow_ | thor: are you reading my mind? |
| 15:22 | thor_ | aim to please |
| 15:22 | rkulagow_ | i've been pinging dopester the last few nights to ask about that. |
| 15:23 | thor_ | he'w got a full dump of my attempts with verbose debugging on ... said he'd try and tweak things when he gets back from PR |
| 15:23 | thor_ | err, he's |
| 15:23 | rkulagow_ | comcast channel lineup puts my QAM versions of ABC, NBC, etc on channels 189-196, so i'm not sure that channel "189" is supposed to mean. |
| 15:24 | thor_ | "189" on a comcast supplied box? |
| 15:24 | rkulagow_ | nope; it's supposed to be part of my basic lineup. |
| 15:24 | Chutt | your cablebox does remap things |
| 15:25 | thor_ | it's almost certainly below 126 in reality |
| 15:25 | rkulagow_ | right |
| 15:25 | rkulagow_ | and i don't have a cablebox. |
| 15:26 | thor_ | this works well on comcast here: http://product.samsung.com/cgi-bin/nabc/product/b2c_product_detail.jsp?eUser=&prod_id=SIR-T451%2fXAA |
| 15:31 | gr8nash | did you guys notice the pchdtv guys lowered the price of the HD3000 to 169 same as Air2pc. it must be eating into the profiets |
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| 15:50 | Chutt | heh |
| 15:50 | Chutt | new monitor's cool, but since it's higher resolution, my bookmarks wrap in a different position |
| 15:50 | Chutt | now i can't find stuff |
| 15:51 | thor_ | CTRL-ALT-+ |
| 15:51 | Chutt | that'd be a waste =) |
| 15:51 | thor_ | in and back |
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| 16:22 | _GeckoFiend | chutt what monitor did you get? |
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| 16:38 | Chutt | geckofiend, dell 2001fp |
| 16:39 | kvandivo | ahh.. those the ones that are $579 right now? |
| 16:39 | kvandivo | Dell UltraSharp 2001FP 20.1" Digital LCD $507 actually |
| 16:40 | kvandivo | "This is the thing to get to cause envy amongst your peers." |
| 16:40 | Chutt | $507 |
| 16:40 | Chutt | works out to $540 or so with tax |
| 16:41 | Chutt | quite nice so far =) |
| 16:41 | Chutt | when i first turned it on, the backlight wasn't terribly even, but it seems to have worked itself out |
| 16:41 | kvandivo | any progress on the air2pc yet? |
| 16:42 | Chutt | no |
| 16:42 | Chutt | i think i need to switch to 2.6, first |
| 16:42 | Chutt | only thing i've done is lspci to make sure it shows up =) |
| 16:42 | kvandivo | so how's telecommuting working out for you? you have to 'call in' very often? |
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| 16:43 | Chutt | i generally have 3-4 conference calls a week |
| 16:43 | kvandivo | that's more than bearable.. |
| 16:44 | Chutt | more if stuff's getting close to a deadline |
| 16:44 | Chutt | generally about an hour each |
| 16:44 | kvandivo | other than the fact that meetings/calls in general aren't the most productive of times, usually.. |
| 16:44 | Chutt | right |
| 16:44 | kvandivo | having just sat through 3 hours of meetings today already, i'm feeling that.. |
| 16:44 | Chutt | but, i can just stick the call on mute, and keep working |
| 16:44 | | * kvandivo grins evily. |
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| 16:47 | rkulagow_ | dopester: you around, or still in PR? |
| 16:47 | Chutt | i think i saw a 'back in the states' message from him last night |
| 16:48 | rkulagow_ | cool. |
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| 16:49 | _GeckoFiend | yeah he's back |
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| 17:58 | Chutt | the cvs vserver has more space in /tmp now, so things should be slightly better with it filling up |
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| 18:08 | dopester | yeah im back in the good ol' usa |
| 18:08 | dopester | just had to work cause my company is satan |
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| 18:13 | GeckoFiend | Satan is my motorcar |
| 18:15 | GeckoFiend | hrm... my 1.8ghz Athlon seems to handle HD pretty well, I've got a 2.5ghz Celeron and a 1.8ghz P4 laying around wondo if they'd do as well |
| 18:16 | jams | 2.5ghz Celeron will work alright |
| 18:17 | jams | at least for most don't know about 1080i |
| 18:17 | GeckoFiend | nothing I watch is 1080i right now anyway |
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| 18:26 | rkulagow_ | dopester: so i've got my Air2PC card installed, 2.6.11-rc4, qam patch (but not the DVB kernel) |
| 18:26 | rkulagow_ | driver installs, myth setup program sees the card, but channel scan doesn't show anything on comcast |
| 18:26 | rkulagow_ | i don't have an antenna connected, so azap didn't tell me much. |
| 18:27 | rkulagow_ | bbl |
| 18:28 | dopester | yeah im not surprised.. a ton of problems poped up the dya i left |
| 18:28 | dopester | well not problems but stuff that showed it wasn't working right |
| 18:28 | dopester | mostly cause of lack of documentation on us digital cable implimentations |
| 18:29 | dopester | azap will work for cable as well |
| 18:29 | dopester | jesus built my hotrod |
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| 18:47 | rkulagow_ | well, azap is telling me about OTA channels; it ran successfully, but Comcast channel lineup for Basic cable says my HD channels are on channels 187-192 |
| 18:47 | dopester | those channel numbers pretty much mean nothing |
| 18:47 | dopester | im trying to hunt down this free "discovery hd" the guy from duke.edu said he can get here |
| 18:47 | rkulagow_ | ok, here's azap: |
| 18:47 | rkulagow_ | WPWR:695000000:8VSB:0:0 |
| 18:47 | rkulagow_ | WSNS:659000000:8VSB:0:0 |
| 18:47 | rkulagow_ | <snip> |
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| 18:48 | dopester | thats gotta be ota not cable |
| 18:50 | rkulagow_ | is there anything i can do? thor said he sent you some stuff. right now when i run the channel scan in mythtv they all come back as no lock |
| 18:51 | rkulagow_ | right; azap is reading from antennaweb, (based on my zip code), right? |
| 18:51 | rkulagow_ | and antennaweb only does OTA afaik |
| 18:54 | rkulagow_ | i also have this in /var/log/messages, which is different than what captain murdoch was showing in his. |
| 18:54 | rkulagow_ | nxt2002: Waiting for firmware upload... |
| 18:54 | rkulagow_ | nxt2002: Waiting for firmware upload(2)... |
| 18:54 | rkulagow_ | done. |
| 18:54 | rkulagow_ | he said he was using dvb-kernel. i'm not, since you said 2.6.11-rc already has everything needed. does it look kosher? |
| 18:54 | rkulagow_ | bbl |
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| 19:13 | Chutt | stupid mailman bounce processor tends to go haywire and start leaking ram like crazy |
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| 19:27 | Baylink | Indeed? |
| 19:28 | Baylink | Barry's a bud; can we nail it down for him? |
| 19:33 | GeckoFiend | hey chutt what model of nvidia was it that had the component out? and do you know if they make a PCI version? |
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| 19:35 | Chutt | the 6600 series does |
| 19:35 | Chutt | i dunno about the 6200s |
| 19:36 | Chutt | baylink, doesn't repro easily, takes down the machine when it does |
| 19:36 | Chutt | ie, not something i want to spend time debugging =) |
| 19:37 | Chutt | geckofiend, no pci versions, that i'm aware of |
| 19:37 | Baylink | Got it. |
| 19:38 | | * Baylink whispers "Link change" into the echo of the room... |
| 19:38 | GeckoFiend | bah |
| 19:39 | Chutt | geckofiend, i'd _imagine_ that if/when they ever do an integrated nforce4 w/ a geforce6, there'd be boards with component out connectors on em |
| 19:39 | GeckoFiend | I've got an old MB laying around and a celeron 2.5, all I need is component out on a card and I'm set |
| 19:39 | GeckoFiend | I could drive my LCD with it via VGA and my onboard, but I want a little more freedom when I move to HD in the living room |
| 19:40 | Chutt | just make sure to get a hdtv with a vga in =) |
| 19:43 | GeckoFiend | yeah but I REALLY want a HD wega to replace my SD wega |
| 19:43 | GeckoFiend | the only things I see with VGA in are the LCDs and plasmas |
| 19:43 | Chutt | grand wega |
| 19:43 | Chutt | isn't that lcd? |
| 19:43 | GeckoFiend | hmmmm |
| 19:43 | Chutt | pricey, though |
| 19:44 | Chutt | arg, time to get outta here |
| 19:46 | dopester | i got a 6600 here.. pci-e |
| 19:50 | GeckoFiend | brb shutting down to pull a ram chip from this box to test my new machine with |
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| 19:55 | gr8nash | FYI i have a MSI nvidia 6600Gt that is PCI with HD out |
| 19:55 | gr8nash | and the Grand wega is a LCD projection. |
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| 20:42 | GeckoFiend | bah hit the key combo to kill X on the wrong machine |
| 20:47 | dopester | hehe |
| 20:49 | GeckoFiend | heh the "Intel extreme graphics" on that MB can NOT deal with HDTV resolutions apparently |
| 20:50 | dopester | yeah i didnt even try the one built in on my new frontend and just put in a 6600 |
| 20:50 | dopester | which im sure is overkill but the price was right |
| 20:52 | GeckoFiend | This is a crappy PCI only MB... |
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| 21:26 | GeckoFiend | waaaaaaaah someone make myth work on my POS video card. |
| 21:27 | Chutt | no |
| 21:28 | GeckoFiend | I juts think it's funny that someone starts a thread saying basicly "I have a POS card with POS drivers" and then goes to all this trouble to make it work when you can get a $40 nvidia card and be happy |
| 21:28 | Chutt | heh, yup |
| 21:28 | Chutt | i'm going through avalanche's bigass patch |
| 21:28 | Chutt | it's, well, big. |
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| 21:30 | GeckoFiend | LOL he warned you |
| 21:32 | Chutt | only found one thing wrong with it so far |
| 21:32 | Chutt | 3000 lines in |
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| 21:35 | dopester | guess hes got me beat :) |
| 21:36 | Chutt | 15k lines |
| 21:40 | dopester | i got discoevery hd theatre it looks like |
| 21:40 | dopester | just damn signal is too weak |
| 21:40 | rkulagow_ | hey, dopester. welcome back. |
| 21:41 | Chutt | i'll be setting up my air2pc soon, now |
| 21:41 | Chutt | do i _need_ to move to 2.6? |
| 21:42 | dopester | yeah |
| 21:42 | dopester | i bet if you futz with shit for a few months you could make 2.4 work ok |
| 21:42 | Chutt | yeah, not really going to do that |
| 21:42 | Chutt | oh well |
| 21:42 | rkulagow_ | dopester: get a chance to see what i posted earlier in scrollback? |
| 21:42 | dopester | hrmm... |
| 21:43 | dopester | i dunno let em scroll up :) |
| 21:43 | Chutt | there, 1/3 of the way through this patch |
| 21:43 | rkulagow_ | what i did, blah, blah, diff between me and captain murdoch's /var/log/messages (he's using dvb-kernel, i'm not) |
| 21:43 | Chutt | time for a big long break. |
| 21:43 | dopester | looks like your firmware isn't getting loaded |
| 21:43 | rkulagow_ | really. that sucks. |
| 21:44 | dopester | files probbab;y in the wrong place |
| 21:44 | dopester | no what sucks is trying to WORK in Puerto Rico |
| 21:44 | dopester | takes 4 days to get something done that in teh us would tkae 15 minutes |
| 21:45 | rkulagow_ | that's the beauty of man~ana time! |
| 21:45 | Captain_Murdo | | dopester: I think rkulagow_ is not using the dvb-kernel cvs though I believe so will his print the confirmation message "firmware upload complete" when it's loaded? |
| 21:45 | dopester | yeah it should print something if it makes it |
| 21:46 | Captain_Murdo | | it does print the done though |
| 21:46 | rkulagow_ | hrmm. firmware dir=/lib/firmware, and i've got a 590 byte nxt2002 firmware file in there. |
| 21:47 | rkulagow_ | whoops, 5908 byte |
| 21:47 | dopester | should go in the first time |
| 21:47 | dopester | is the hotplug service started? |
| 21:55 | rkulagow_ | gentoo doesn't use hotplug service. |
| 21:55 | dopester | my version does :) |
| 21:55 | rkulagow_ | well, when i look at /etc/init.d/hotplug, it says that it doesn't do anything. |
| 21:55 | dopester | hrmm.. |
| 21:56 | dopester | mine says it does something |
| 21:56 | rkulagow_ | i don't see hotplug running in ps -aux either |
| 21:56 | rkulagow_ | # nothing here anymore. Please use the coldplug package if you really want to |
| 21:56 | rkulagow_ | # load modules for devices that are discovered by your kernel before init runs. |
| 21:56 | rkulagow_ | # |
| 21:56 | dopester | hrmm.. mine isn't running either hrmm.. |
| 21:57 | dopester | man hang on a sec i tihnk my brain is still working at puerto rican speed |
| 21:57 | rkulagow_ | well, based on the firmware message, does it look like the card is getting the firmare? |
| 21:57 | dopester | naw i don't think so |
| 21:57 | rkulagow_ | crap. |
| 21:58 | rkulagow_ | did you do anything special in /etc/modules.autorun.d/kernel-2.6? i added skystar2 in there and mythtv does see the card during setup... |
| 22:01 | dopester | thats it man |
| 22:01 | dopester | let me chec my dmesg |
| 22:04 | dopester | its cluttered with crap |
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| 22:29 | dopester | hrmm.. my brian ain't working today rkulagow sorry im being no help |
| 22:31 | rkulagow_ | well, once the rum washes out of your system you should be good to go. no biggy. |
| 22:32 | dopester | actually need to replace it i think :) |
| 22:32 | dopester | no mojito making country.. gotta go to cuba for that :( |
| 22:33 | GeckoFiend | with a name like dopester I don't think it's rum that's got his brain fogged :-p |
| 22:33 | dopester | heh |
| 22:34 | dopester | i picture you licking some kinda toads there gecko |
| 22:34 | mikegrb | :P |
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| 23:11 | abarbaccia | hey guys - how easy would it be to write an add in that would let you author a DVD and burn it from a mythTV GUI |
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| 23:17 | mikegrb | 12 |
| 23:17 | mikegrb | oh, he left |
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| 23:25 | GreyFoxx | abarba: That would depend on how good your coding skills are :) |
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