| --- | Log | opened Sat Feb 19 00:00:46 2005 |
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| 00:22 | thor_ | grrr, dopester |
| 00:22 | dopester | hola |
| 00:23 | thor_ | trying to get QAM on air2pc working |
| 00:23 | dopester | i just spent 3 hours driving around San Juan trying to find a hotel room |
| 00:23 | thor_ | heh |
| 00:23 | dopester | ended up staying with a co-worker |
| 00:24 | dopester | so whats the problem? |
| 00:25 | thor_ | bit confused on the whole scannig thing |
| 00:25 | thor_ | err, scanning |
| 00:25 | dopester | choose cable and hit go :) |
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| 00:26 | thor_ | I scan, which ends up giving me some transport numbers (eg, 727000000) |
| 00:26 | thor_ | but no actual channels ever appear |
| 00:26 | ijwyn | hello, I just installed mythtv but when I try to run it in console, I get this error message: |
| 00:26 | ijwyn | Driver error was [1/1045]: |
| 00:26 | ijwyn | QMYSQL3: Unable to connect |
| 00:26 | ijwyn | Database error was: |
| 00:26 | ijwyn | Access denied for user: 'mythtv@localhost' (Using password: YES) |
| 00:26 | ijwyn | what does it mean? |
| 00:27 | dopester | well i found out from a guy there is some channels in my market im missing so the scan clearly isnt right |
| 00:27 | dopester | but im still in pr so i can't really do crap from here |
| 00:27 | thor_ | heh |
| 00:27 | Captain_Murdo | | ijwyn, it's code for "try the #mythtv-users channel" |
| 00:27 | ijwyn | whoops, lol, sorry |
| 00:27 | Captain_Murdo | | :) |
| 00:27 | dopester | the guy from duke.edu on the dev list told me discovery-hd is free in Raleigh |
| 00:28 | dopester | he lives maybe a mile away from me too.. small world.. |
| 00:28 | thor_ | I've got a samsung standalone box, so I know the QAM is working |
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| 00:29 | thor_ | am I supposed to scan twice (all transports, then for each transport)? |
| 00:29 | thor_ | or is it just supposed to work? |
| 00:29 | dopester | its supposed to work |
| 00:29 | dopester | BUT |
| 00:29 | dopester | from what i gather i am expecting a 100% valid vct |
| 00:29 | dopester | which i only get from my locals |
| 00:29 | dopester | and i get some bogus looking ones but those clearly are channels i need to add to the db |
| 00:30 | thor_ | I just never get any channels at all |
| 00:30 | dopester | yeah that makes sense |
| 00:30 | dopester | if you want to mod the logging macros in siparser.cpp and siscan.cpp to be VB_VERBOSE you should be able to get some more info |
| 00:31 | dopester | can't increase the logging in setup easily so thats the easiest thing i can think of |
| 00:31 | thor_ | ok, will have a look |
| 00:31 | dopester | you should see some "Found Channel xx-xx" somewhere in there |
| 00:31 | dopester | if you see those jsut let me know what they are |
| 00:31 | dopester | but chances are i will just make it add anything regardless of if it looks right or not |
| 00:31 | Beirdo | heya dopester |
| 00:31 | dopester | hey man |
| 00:31 | thor_ | k (just rebuilding now) |
| 00:31 | dopester | if i recall i was getting 0-51 for the channel number and no name |
| 00:32 | dopester | but could be different where you are at |
| 00:32 | Beirdo | I was saying earlier... you'd better not be in Toronto area :) |
| 00:32 | dopester | naw im in San Juan, Puerto Rico |
| 00:32 | Beirdo | ah, somewhere warm |
| 00:32 | thor_ | [23:04:49] <Beirdo> if he came up towards Toronto and doesn't call me... :) |
| 00:32 | Beirdo | business/pleasure/both? |
| 00:32 | dopester | hehe i got your number somewhere |
| 00:32 | dopester | business |
| 00:32 | dopester | pleasure isn't really something i would go to san juan for |
| 00:32 | Beirdo | ah, could be worse, they coulda sent you to Alaska |
| 00:32 | dopester | its like new jersey.. |
| 00:33 | Beirdo | heh |
| 00:33 | thor_ | but better surfing |
| 00:33 | dopester | just more bars on all the windows |
| 00:33 | Beirdo | and fewer MythTV users |
| 00:33 | dopester | yeah well if i do move here i will be 1 of 3.5 million using it :) |
| 00:34 | Beirdo | heh |
| 00:34 | Beirdo | I wonder if defaultro needs telling off again? |
| 00:34 | dopester | lord hes one person i don't miss |
| 00:34 | Beirdo | I've been getting pretty blunt with him on occasion |
| 00:35 | Beirdo | hello, thor_, BTW :) |
| 00:35 | thor_ | heh, hi |
| 00:35 | dopester | hehe ive been outright rude here |
| 00:35 | dopester | everything in puerto rico takes about 10 times as long as north america.. the people here are so goddamn lazy |
| 00:35 | dopester | the project i came here for i didn't really get to start until thursday |
| 00:35 | dopester | and i was supposed to leave on friday |
| 00:35 | Beirdo | so I go to hook up my asterisk box to the phone line... can't find the f'ing phone cord |
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| 00:36 | Beirdo | dopester: at least it's warm :) |
| 00:36 | dopester | yeah thats true |
| 00:36 | dopester | probbably 22 or so now |
| 00:36 | Beirdo | C I assume? |
| 00:36 | dopester | yeah |
| 00:36 | Beirdo | whew |
| 00:36 | dopester | a canadian asked so i replied in C |
| 00:36 | dopester | if thor asked i would reply in F |
| 00:37 | Beirdo | I understand both :) |
| 00:37 | dopester | here all the speed limits are in mph, but all distances are metric |
| 00:37 | Beirdo | and 22F ain't warm for PR :) |
| 00:37 | thor_ | and I'm Canadian |
| 00:37 | dopester | well thor_ aren't you around the DC area though? |
| 00:37 | thor_ | yup |
| 00:37 | | * Captain_Murd waits patiently for the /tmp cleanup job on the cvs server. |
| 00:37 | thor_ | but I'm wearing grey wool socks and everything |
| 00:38 | Beirdo | woohoo :) |
| 00:38 | Beirdo | good Canadian socks |
| 00:39 | dopester | im barefoot in shorts and a tshirt :) |
| 00:39 | Beirdo | so am I, but I'm inside and on the couch :) |
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| 00:55 | jasonb | Hi there. This may be a common question, but: What version of mysql does mythtv require? |
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| 01:03 | Captain_Murdo | | try #mythtv-users, I think they use MythTV over there. |
| 01:03 | dopester | :) |
| 01:03 | Captain_Murdo | | just a hunch I have |
| 01:03 | Beirdo | burn. |
| 01:03 | dopester | beirdo: been watching that 70s show? |
| 01:04 | Captain_Murdo | | in this room some of us spend too much time developing to get to use it that much. |
| 01:04 | Beirdo | dopester: but of course |
| 01:04 | dopester | well its 2am here im beat after driving around listening to crap music for 3 hours trying to find a hotel room.. take care guys.. |
| 01:05 | dopester | http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0002IQBP8/qid=1108792447/sr=2-3/ref=pd_ka_b_2_3/104-5436964-1706345 <-- there you can listen to what 80% of puerto rican radio is like there |
| 01:05 | dopester | choose any track the all sound the same to me |
| 01:11 | Captain_Murdo | | need to get this aspect ratio detection code in CVS so I can quit having to strip it out of my diffs when I apply other patches. :) |
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| 01:25 | lotia | anyone know of a fanless pci express geforce card? |
| 01:26 | | * Beirdo points at the topic |
| 01:28 | lotia | Bierdo: thanks sorry : |
| 01:28 | lotia | ( |
| 01:34 | rw | Beirdo, this channel should be users channel and development should have a channel like #mythtv-devel, makes more sense. |
| 01:35 | | * jasonb agrees, obviously. |
| 01:37 | Beirdo | rw: not our channel to say that :) |
| 01:38 | rw | Beirdo, i know, im just commenting since you are older then i am. |
| 01:39 | Beirdo | that decision is up to the owners of the channel, who disagree :) |
| 01:39 | rw | do you know why? |
| 01:40 | Beirdo | not off hand, and don't ccare that much :) |
| 01:45 | rw | "audiocd", virtual audio cd filesystem which copies and encodes audio tracks on the fly |
| 01:45 | rw | that's cool |
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| 02:05 | Chutt | heh |
| 02:10 | rw | what's up Chutt? |
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| 02:59 | skone | is there a keystroke that changes the recorded programs list? |
| 02:59 | skone | I had a different layout before, and I dont recall changing it in setup |
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| 03:04 | skone | sorry |
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| 04:45 | blorro | so anyone got the hang on radeon tvout in fedora?? |
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| 06:56 | PappaChri | what is the correct xmltv-category to get movies to show up as movies in mythtv? (using mythweb, the movies link is empty) |
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| 09:57 | thor_ | Chutt, the dvorak is actually far from objectionable. Kudos |
| 09:58 | GeckoFiend | yeah that wasn't bad at all |
| 09:58 | thor_ | GeckoFiend, you doing Minimalist-wide? |
| 09:58 | GeckoFiend | yeah |
| 09:59 | thor_ | is the horizontal text layout intended ... I seem to be having problems with some text "buttons" disappearing |
| 09:59 | thor_ | until I select over them |
| 09:59 | GeckoFiend | yeah it was chutts idea |
| 09:59 | GeckoFiend | you using the latest copy of themedmenu.cpp? |
| 10:00 | thor_ | couldn't say for sure, I'm messing around with DVB-QAM, kind of going back on forth on things recklessly |
| 10:01 | thor_ | if I find a clear problem with genuine CVS current, I'll let you know |
| 10:01 | GeckoFiend | eventualy there will not be any just plain text buttons but themed menu had a number of issues coping with the horizontal menu that I had to clear up |
| 10:02 | thor_ | if you're tallying votes, I prefer the vertical list, but only mildly |
| 10:03 | GeckoFiend | I did too at first till I started to get some ideas (that'll have to wait till mythui) for the horizontal |
| 10:04 | thor_ | ahh, yup ... kind of hoping Chutt gets one of his creative bursts and does the bulk of libmythui in a day and a half :-) |
| 10:05 | GeckoFiend | hehe I should driver up next friday with a case of Bawls and a bottle of no-doze |
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| 10:53 | thor_ | dopseter, mail for you on -dev |
| 10:53 | thor_ | err, dopster |
| 10:53 | thor_ | bah |
| 10:58 | dopester | thor: just change the VB_SIPARSER to VB_GENERAL |
| 10:59 | thor_ | k |
| 10:59 | dopester | I might have said VB_VERBOSE last night i was dead tired when i got on irc |
| 10:59 | thor_ | yup |
| 11:00 | dopester | when you say QAM is working do you know that you can get some of those channels in the clear on your samsung box? |
| 11:01 | thor_ | yes |
| 11:02 | dopester | i still have to play around at home because there might not even be a vct for the unc channels |
| 11:02 | thor_ | np, there's no hurry, just like to figure it out |
| 11:03 | thor_ | (rebuilding new libmythtv) |
| 11:05 | dopester | problem with opencable is most of the si is sent out of band on a qpsk channel that i can't decode with any card out there |
| 11:05 | dopester | i can look at the mpeg ts stuff and see if the channels are encrypted but i really don't want to have to do that unless necessary |
| 11:13 | thor_ | scanning now, it needs to get through 85 channels to something with QAM on it :-( |
| 11:13 | dopester | fix the loop in siscan thats what i did when testing |
| 11:14 | dopester | started mine at 80 |
| 11:14 | dopester | but there IS a chance you could have one lower so i gotta include em all |
| 11:14 | thor_ | yup |
| 11:17 | thor_ | here's a snippet: |
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| 11:17 | thor_ | Setting currenTID = 8 |
| 11:17 | thor_ | 2005-02-19 11:20:37.987 SIParser: Table[0]->RequirePIDs() == true |
| 11:17 | thor_ | 2005-02-19 11:20:37.987 SIParser: Adding PID 0 Filter 0 Mask ff Buffer 40960 |
| 11:17 | thor_ | 2005-02-19 11:20:37.987 SIParser: Table[2]->RequirePIDs() == true |
| 11:17 | thor_ | 2005-02-19 11:20:37.987 SIParser: Adding PID 1ffb Filter ff Mask 0 Buffer 40960 |
| 11:17 | thor_ | 2005-02-19 11:20:37.988 SIParser: Table[3]->RequirePIDs() == true |
| 11:17 | thor_ | 2005-02-19 11:20:37.988 SIParser: Adding PID 1ffb Filter ff Mask 0 Buffer 40960 |
| 11:17 | thor_ | 2005-02-19 11:20:41.990 SIParser: About to do a reset |
| 11:17 | thor_ | 2005-02-19 11:20:41.990 SIParser: Closing all PIDs |
| 11:17 | thor_ | 2005-02-19 11:20:42.004 SIParser: Resetting all Table Handlers |
| 11:17 | thor_ | 2005-02-19 11:20:42.004 SIParser: SIParser Reset due to channel change |
| 11:17 | thor_ | 2005-02-19 11:20:42.099 DVB#0 DVB signal 0 | snr 0 | ber 0 | unc 0 |
| 11:17 | thor_ | 2005-02-19 11:20:42.099 DVB#0 Signal Lost |
| 11:17 | thor_ | 2005-02-19 11:20:42.607 DVB#0 Signal Locked |
| 11:17 | thor_ | 2005-02-19 11:20:42.704 DVB#0 Status: LOCK. |
| 11:17 | thor_ | 2005-02-19 11:20:42.704 SIParser: Requesting PAT |
| 11:18 | thor_ | Setting currenTID = 9 |
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| 11:19 | thor_ | you want the whole output via e-mail |
| 11:19 | dopester | yeah |
| 11:20 | thor_ | I only changed the siparser macro, not siscan, let me change that as well, rerun, and send you the whole output via e-mail |
| 11:20 | dopester | I THINK siparser will be enough |
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| 11:22 | thor_ | to rtjacob at earthlink.net ? |
| 11:22 | dopester | si |
| 11:22 | thor_ | gracias |
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| 11:37 | thor_ | mail on its way |
| 11:37 | thor_ | 2005-02-19 11:29:55.024 SIScan#0: Tuning to mplexid -1 |
| 11:37 | thor_ | seem to be a lot of those around |
| 11:37 | thor_ | (no idea if it means anything) |
| 11:39 | dopester | naw |
| 11:39 | dopester | just means its tuning to something not already in the database |
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| 11:41 | thor_ | in case it's useful info, there is known QAM on 122 (.1.2.3) 123 (.1.2.3.4.5) and 124 (.2.3), plus things that come and go (PPV, I think) on 86, 87, 88, 89, plus a smatter of other things |
| 11:41 | dopester | yeah when i get back to the states i can look more into it |
| 11:42 | thor_ | k |
| 11:42 | dopester | cause if i can get discovereyhd for free im really interested ;) |
| 11:42 | thor_ | heh |
| 11:42 | dopester | i just hope it doesnt get so big that they start encrytping all those channels |
| 11:44 | thor_ | no discovery here, just broadcast ATSC over the cable (and even some of those are missing) |
| 11:44 | dopester | yeah im not surprised |
| 11:44 | dopester | like i said the guy down the road from me said he can get about twice the channels i can pick up |
| 11:45 | thor_ | but it's so much more reliable over the cable (on the samsung box) |
| 11:45 | dopester | i didn't spend enough time digging through the different channels |
| 11:45 | dopester | 8vsb seems to just be crap like all the 8vsb vs. cofdm posts out there |
| 11:46 | dopester | when it rains i get nothing |
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| 11:46 | thor_ | heh |
| 11:46 | thor_ | hundred year old building, 4 foot walls, real plaster over metal grill walls |
| 11:47 | thor_ | I'm lucky to get an OTA signal at all |
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| 11:50 | dopester | looks like my scan doesnt get a vct at all |
| 11:52 | thor_ | when it's on a QAM channel, in the popup GUI, the signal is high (like 98%), the S/N is high (like 92%), and LOCKED is constantly displayed, but then it just says failed to tune (in the main window) and moves on to the next one |
| 11:53 | dopester | yeah thats what i expect |
| 11:53 | thor_ | well, whenever you get back, I'd be happy to test stuff |
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| 15:06 | Torq | Baylink? |
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| 15:39 | Baylink | Yeah? |
| 15:40 | Baylink | Torq? |
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| 16:13 | rkulagow_ | anyone see dopester in the last few days? |
| 16:13 | Anduin | rkulagow_ - he was here earlier, in PR still I think |
| 16:13 | rkulagow_ | ah, ok |
| 16:17 | GeckoFiend | yeah he said he was going to be "stuck" there a couple more days |
| 16:19 | rkulagow_ | just my luck. got the Air2 card installed, now trying to work through getting it configured. Channel scan didn't find anything, even though according to Comcast I should have about 6 channels available. |
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| 16:23 | benc | ever since I upgraded to 0.17 all mythtv recordings seem to produce large volumes of mpeg2video errors. this seems to be a result of changes in encoding as older files do produce such errors. could this have something to do with attempts to embed vbi/cc data? |
| 16:24 | benc | ack. s/do produce/do not produce/ |
| 16:24 | Anduin | rkulagow_ - when he was here was was chatting with thor about that |
| 16:25 | rkulagow_ | ok, i'll check scrollback. bbl. |
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| 16:43 | Torq | Baylink? sorry missed you |
| 16:56 | bsm117532 | Can you guys suggest how to debug the frontend not being able to connect to the backend? |
| 16:56 | bsm117532 | The backend is running and I can telnet to it, but frontend complains it cannot connect. |
| 16:57 | bsm117532 | are there debug flags for the mythtv or mythfrontend binaries? |
| 16:57 | Anduin | bsm117532 - it is probably a config error |
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| 17:00 | bsm117532 | Audin: that's the obvious answer but I cannot figure it out...How can I get more info out of the frontend besides "cannot connect". |
| 17:01 | Anduin | bsm117532 - there are several ways, many of them -users before you jump to gdb |
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| 17:46 | shadash | Hey all I just created my first iso for VMC/OS :-) it's a distro based on FC3 but is completely customized for installing MythTV :-) |
| 17:46 | shadash | WooHoo |
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| 17:47 | shadash | I still need to tweak things out but the process worked |
| 17:47 | shadash | I'll have everything on www.visualmediatech.com next Tues |
| 17:48 | shadash | Also I'm going to be selling specialized Visual Media Centers (Myth based media centers) |
| 17:48 | shadash | they are really cool |
| 17:49 | GeckoFiend | shadash will they play MP3s? |
| 17:49 | shadash | the distro will have the correct rpms to play mp3s |
| 17:49 | shadash | although I'm still kinda up in the air about it |
| 17:50 | shadash | might be better not to to keep the lawyers away |
| 17:50 | shadash | jams helped out a lot on the project |
| 17:50 | GeckoFiend | heh MP3s are just the tip of the iceberg when attempting to sell a Myth box in the US |
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| 17:50 | shadash | That's why I created a distro |
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| 17:51 | NightMonkey | shadash: Is that picture the actual device you'll be selling? |
| 17:51 | shadash | no |
| 17:51 | shadash | it's much better |
| 17:52 | shadash | everything you need in a myth center |
| 17:52 | shadash | plus it's expandable.. :-) ie you can purchase a separate unit that is stucked with sata drives |
| 17:52 | shadash | stocked |
| 17:53 | shadash | I'll do a more formal announcement next week |
| 17:54 | shadash | but just thought I'd put a heads up here first ;-) |
| 17:55 | NightMonkey | shadash: Good luck! |
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| 19:14 | Wildgoose | shadash: what are you putting inside the boxes? How have you found silencing them...? |
| 19:30 | benc | is commercial-skip data stored in the db or the nuv file? |
| 19:31 | mikegrb | db |
| 19:31 | mikegrb | recordmarkup |
| 19:31 | mikegrb | with other stuff |
| 19:39 | Levia | what is the correct xmltv-category to get movies to show up as movies in mythtv? (using mythweb, the movies link is empty) |
| 19:39 | tuxristo | question. i did a 'select * from recordedmarkup where chanid=1015 and starttime="2005-02-19 13:00:00";' and got over 3000 rows. how do i figure out where the commercials are from this data? |
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| 19:49 | Goldfisch2 | I want to work on the description pop-up that occurs while watching a recording or live tv. It shows program details. Can someone give me a hot tip about where that widget is displayed in the source? |
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| 19:58 | gearz | does anyone know if there are rpms for mythtv that support firewire? |
| 19:59 | gearz | i am having a hard time getting all the libraries built for firewire support and it would be a real time-saver if someone else happens to have done this already |
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| 20:13 | Russ | any news on bug 89 http://www.mythtv.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=89? |
| 20:13 | Russ | I'm seeing something with the same sytmptoms in .17 |
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| 20:24 | GeckoFiend | Goldfisch2 it's called hitting the info button |
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| 20:32 | Goldfisch2 | GeckoFiend: Haha. I am trying to find the piece of source code where that function is carried out. This stuff is hard to sift through. |
| 20:40 | dopester | thor_: around? |
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| 20:56 | dem | anyone here use directfb? |
| 20:59 | GeckoFiend | Goldfisch2 ummm how about HandleKeypress? |
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| 22:51 | mrrio | hey |
| 22:51 | mrrio | still have no mythvideo in menu |
| 22:51 | | * mrrio *yawns* ... 3:51am... |
| 22:52 | mrrio | gonna give up soon and try another app i think |
| 22:55 | Beirdo | good for you. |
| 22:55 | Beirdo | you are in the wrong channel :) |
| 22:55 | | * Beirdo points at the topic |
| 22:55 | | * mikegrb points at Beirdo and touches his nose |
| 22:56 | Beirdo | you putting a hex on me or something? :) |
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| 22:57 | mikegrb | :D |
| 22:57 | mrrio | your only right |
| 22:58 | mrrio | im getting tire |
| 22:58 | mrrio | d |
| 22:58 | | * mrrio wanders off in the vague direction of #mythtv-users |
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| 23:24 | --- | User: *** _batdog is now known as batdog |
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| --- | Log | closed Sun Feb 20 00:00:08 2005 |