| --- | Log | opened Fri Feb 18 00:00:27 2005 |
| 00:01 | Beirdo | I'm not sure, it was Baylink's file |
| 00:01 | squigly- | can I talk about bugs here? Im trying to get enough useful information for some one to fix the problem . but I dont know where to start |
| 00:01 | Captain_Murdo | | ok. I think that should be easy to fix, looking at it a little now. should just be able to force raw = 0 and compressthis = 1 when transcoding I believe. |
| 00:02 | Captain_Murdo | | squigly-: is it a bug or a crash? |
| 00:02 | squigly- | bug |
| 00:02 | Captain_Murdo | | simple or big? |
| 00:03 | squigly- | hmm, its strange |
| 00:03 | squigly- | recordings are being made on the wrong channels, |
| 00:03 | squigly- | every thing says look at channel a and it records channel b |
| 00:04 | Captain_Murdo | | sounds more like a -users question, probably a configuration error. maybe even the wrong tuner specified |
| 00:05 | squigly- | I have been using the machine for a year, and it just started with one show on a channel |
| 00:05 | squigly- | but its begining to spread |
| 00:06 | squigly- | the channel it records has no program guide, when I sit in live tv I can swich through all my tuners and not get the wrong channel |
| 00:06 | Captain_Murdo | | no one else has reported anything like that that I know of so it sounds more like a problem on your system and a -users question. |
| 00:07 | squigly- | Cant I be the only person experiancing a bug? |
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| 00:08 | nz17 | I know this is an odd question, but does anyone know of a Web site where one could buy pre-built Linux PVRs? |
| 00:08 | Captain_Murdo | | no, but something as drastic as recording shows off the wrong channel would be seen by other users unless it's a config issue on your system. |
| 00:08 | Captain_Murdo | | www.tivo.com |
| 00:08 | nz17 | Oops, wrong channel, sorry. |
| 00:08 | Captain_Murdo | | just not open. :) |
| 00:08 | nz17 | Well we can't have closed, now can we. ;) |
| 00:09 | nz17 | Now going to mythtv-users. |
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| 00:09 | squigly- | Captain_Murdoch, Im fairly sure its related to the big DVB update |
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| 00:11 | Captain_Murdo | | so you are a DVB user? did you setup all your channels correctly after upgrading since the DB config changed for DVB. |
| 00:12 | squigly- | Captain_Murdoch, yes, and every other channel works fine, and most recordings on this channel work fine. but 2 dont |
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| 00:17 | squigly- | Im thinking I should start by catching the backend log at the time it happens, I will do that and then see what it says. When I look at the scheduling info right now its all fine |
| 00:18 | Captain_Murdo | | try turning on some of the backend debug log messages using the -v option and see if you can find anything useful in there. |
| 00:19 | | gr8nash-home | squigly- whats it doing exactly on the bad channels |
| 00:19 | | gr8nash-home | my hd3000 is not working for 1 of my channels after .17 even though mplayer playes it fine |
| 00:20 | squigly- | Im using DVB and it records a different program from the same transponder, I can use the channel though |
| 00:20 | | gr8nash-home | ok nevermind =( |
| 00:20 | squigly- | it just some times, gives me the wrong channel |
| 00:20 | Captain_Murdo | | could be the dvb driver for that card since it's fairly new. |
| 00:20 | Captain_Murdo | | check your syslog to see if there's anything in there. |
| 00:21 | squigly- | Captain_Murdoch, me? |
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| 00:22 | Captain_Murdo | | yeah |
| 00:23 | squigly- | my card is about a year and a half old, ive never had this problem before |
| 00:24 | Captain_Murdo | | are you using the dvb driver or the old hd driver? |
| 00:24 | squigly- | huh? there is only one driver for my card, twinham dvb |
| 00:27 | Captain_Murdo | | there was a driver for the hdX000 cards then recently I believe someone wrote a driver to make them act like a dvb card so they work with the linux-dvb stuff. |
| 00:28 | | gr8nash-home | sorry Captain_Murdoch i confused his question.. im hte one with the HD3000 card |
| 00:28 | Captain_Murdo | | read this thread. search for a post by "david at thegeorges", he talks about it. http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/engine?do=post_view_printable;post=109909;list=mythtv |
| 00:28 | squigly- | im in AU |
| 00:28 | squigly- | no atsc here |
| 00:28 | Captain_Murdo | | sorry, I misread, saw gr8nash-home post and read it as squigly. :( sorry, my fault. |
| 00:29 | squigly- | no worries |
| 00:29 | | gr8nash-home | =) my fault too |
| 00:30 | Captain_Murdo | | you're probably better off posting on the -dev list since the guys who worked on that rewrite usually read that. I haven't seen anyone mention anything like that that I recall though, but you can search the archives. I'm using the dvb support in Myth with my air2pc card and although I dont' use it much I haven't seen any problems yet. |
| 00:31 | | gr8nash-home | could it be a driver isusee if mplayer playes channel 6 fine? |
| 00:32 | squigly- | before i post to dev, i wondered what else I should collect, the backend log aany thing else |
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| 00:34 | Captain_Murdo | | not sure. I'm not sure what debugging messages they put in the dvb code. you can try using "-v channel" to see if that gives any useful output. |
| 00:35 | squigly- | ok |
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| 01:30 | MajestiK | Captain_Murdoch: that patch you sent me the other day, is that commited? and can I share it? |
| 01:30 | Captain_Murdo | | which one was that? :) |
| 01:31 | MajestiK | the commflag -> cutlist one |
| 01:31 | MajestiK | to mythcommflag |
| 01:31 | Captain_Murdo | | --gencutlist? that's in CVS now. |
| 01:31 | MajestiK | I still haven't tried it yet.. |
| 01:31 | MajestiK | Ok, cool |
| 01:33 | MajestiK | do you know offhand if I can pull mythcommflag from CVS and just compile it? |
| 01:34 | Chutt | just update everything from cvs |
| 01:34 | Chutt | nothing's gone in aside from fixes yet |
| 01:36 | MajestiK | I'd rather stick with the packaged release version for gentoo.. |
| 01:37 | MajestiK | Is it possible to pull a given piece out though? |
| 01:40 | Chutt | not easily |
| 01:40 | MajestiK | Ok.. probably just compile into an alternate root then and just pull the binary then for commflag |
| 01:40 | Captain_Murdo | | MajestiK: the patch I gave you is what went into CVS |
| 01:40 | Chutt | if the libraries change, that won't work. |
| 01:40 | MajestiK | yeah |
| 01:41 | MajestiK | Hmm.. is that something that sould be an objective? allow to compule frontend only or something? or backend with no frontend? |
| 01:42 | Chutt | err |
| 01:42 | Chutt | that's easily done, but, not really all that worthwhile |
| 01:42 | Chutt | there's no additional dependencies |
| 01:43 | Chutt | the problem is if libmyth or libmythtv changes (as it has in this case, as all the commflagging is done by libmythtv) |
| 01:43 | Chutt | everything else needs to be updated as well |
| 01:43 | Chutt | since it'd be kind of silly to update the library soname or whatnot with each cvs checkin. |
| 01:44 | MajestiK | Ok.. so it's only a small time window that it might even be useful.. |
| 01:44 | Chutt | mixing cvs and non-cvs just doesn't work :p |
| 01:44 | MajestiK | Do you have the cvs root offhand? |
| 01:45 | Chutt | it's in the docs |
| 01:47 | MajestiK | K, found it.. thanks |
| 01:50 | Chutt | Captain_Murdoch, thanks for applying patches =) |
| 01:51 | Captain_Murdo | | :) figured I'd get some out of the way that I knew were safe. just converted statusbox.cpp over to MSqlQuery also so that should be easier when the db fix is done. |
| 02:46 | MajestiK | Captain_Murdoch: I'm trying this new mythcommflag, and I'm not getting any output at all from it.. with the --gencutlist option |
| 02:57 | MajestiK | nevermind.. It's too late to figure stuff out.. I was looking at the wrong recording |
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| 04:19 | johnp_ | Has anyone any suggestions for debuging saved TS streams ? I'm thinking about looking at the DVB saving TS streams feature, which seems to limp along but obviously has some issues. |
| 04:20 | johnp_ | (Of course what I'd really like is a 'whats wrong with this recording" command :) ) |
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| 08:04 | radiatorbp | hi! noobe question : how can I add additional tv_grab_?? items into the backend setup? they area all installed, but only a few show up. |
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| 09:36 | _rkulagow_ | exit |
| 09:36 | _rkulagow_ | whoops. wrong window. |
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| 11:20 | kvandivo | i hate to say it but, being the lemming that i am, i've almost grown accustomed to taking zap2its little poll every three months... |
| 11:22 | Beirdo | :) A small price to pay |
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| 11:23 | dja | I wish they would let us take it more than 1 week in advance (last time I was on vacation and almost missed it :-) |
| 11:29 | hadeees | didn't it used to be like 1 every month? i guess they ran out of things to ask us about |
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| 11:32 | kvandivo | i believe zap2it has always been 3 months |
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| 15:42 | GeckoFiend | 164g takes forever to copy! |
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| 15:58 | Baylink | Depends on your disk channels, GF. |
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| 16:05 | Baylink | G'day, Captain. |
| 16:05 | Captain_Murdo | | hey |
| 16:05 | Baylink | How's Trix? |
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| 18:09 | batdog | strange problem... mythbackend occasionally quits with no debug message. I have --verbose=all. happens often when make schedule changes from mythweb. (using cvs as of last night) |
| 18:09 | batdog | anyone seen this before? |
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| 18:11 | batdog | normally i run from gentoo init script. now running from terminal, hoping it will drop a core file but so far no crash, of course |
| 18:18 | Captain_Murdo | | read the debugging section of the howto on how to get a good backtrace. core file won't help any since Myth is multithreaded. |
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| 18:28 | batdog | aha. got the crash, plus core file |
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| 19:07 | batdog | if someone would care to see a backtrace of a segfault in mythbackend (cvs as of last night), here it is: http://zigzag.elkins.cx/~jde/crash.html |
| 19:08 | batdog | happens sometimes when updating schedules from mythweb. as a side note, my mythweb runs on a separate machine from the backend |
| 19:11 | batdog | trying to wade thru the code but this is my first time looking at it |
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| 19:16 | Anduin | batdog - That isn't a very long bt, all you can really tell is that the socket is probably invalid at that point. |
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| 19:19 | batdog | Anduin: any tips? its from a core file. without loading symbols the stack is 7 calls deep. i'm not very familiar with gdb |
| 19:20 | Anduin | batdog - get it to crash while running in gdb, when it does: thread apply all bt full |
| 19:21 | batdog | Anduin: last night when i did that it was hanging up when it forked the channel change program. i'll try it again. |
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| 19:29 | batdog | Ok, i got it to crash in gdb. updated the bt at http://zigzag.elkins.cx/~jde/crash.html |
| 19:33 | batdog | to get this i edited a recording schedule from mythweb, changed the recording priority, then clicked update. however, this does not happen every time by any means... maybe 1/10 |
| 19:33 | batdog | again mythweb is on a different machine than the mythbackend |
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| 19:37 | batdog | gut feel is that it happens when the backend is recording but i'm so frequently recording it could be coincidence |
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| 19:50 | streamtrade | Anyone here who works on the calculations for where you are in a live tv program? |
| 19:51 | streamtrade | When I hit page up and page down, I am seeing numbers that do not make sense to me, was wondering if anyone was working to address this |
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| 20:07 | | * batdog yawns |
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| 20:11 | streamtrade | GeckoFiend: do your last changes to themedMenus allow for animation? |
| 20:12 | GeckoFiend | no |
| 20:12 | GeckoFiend | animation wil come with mythui |
| 20:12 | GeckoFiend | they just allow the active image to work properly |
| 20:13 | streamtrade | ok, I got the impression from your comments that some movement was addressed in your changes |
| 20:13 | streamtrade | thx |
| 20:15 | GeckoFiend | in the minimalist theme the active image is a larger version of the normal image so it appears to zoom |
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| 20:16 | streamtrade | ok, I had noticed the tag was only in minimalist |
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| 20:17 | streamtrade | I had to laugh when I looked at one of the menus in minimalist. I thought where are the images and then I thought, oh minimalist. |
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| 20:32 | paulc36 | devel question: upgrading from 0.16 to 0.17 on my debian box appears to have borken the tv-out on the pvr-350 for the mythfrontend program. Is this a known issue on some systems? |
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| 20:56 | Torq | animated images in menus? god forbid. I hope we never see the day |
| 20:56 | GeckoFiend | hehe better not upgrade to .19 then :-p |
| 20:59 | Torq | they are pointless and only serve to distract |
| 20:59 | cthompson | so use a theme that doesn't have them |
| 21:07 | GeckoFiend | are pretty muc hall graphics pointless then? |
| 21:07 | Torq | muc hall? |
| 21:07 | GeckoFiend | much all |
| 21:08 | Torq | static nice, animated not nice |
| 21:08 | GeckoFiend | ahhh got it. things you like = good, things you don't = pointles s :-p |
| 21:08 | Torq | very good. congratulations. |
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| 22:07 | Anduin | batdog - You should probably post to -dev, I'd blame endConnection but the UpRef should be keeping it alive long enough even in that situation. |
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| 22:13 | Wildgoose | Any dvb folks here? |
| 22:13 | Beirdo | GeckoFiend: sounds like Torq is getting pretty pointless :) |
| 22:14 | Wildgoose | Beirdo: I get confused with people's nicks, is the DVB stuff your code? |
| 22:14 | Beirdo | nope |
| 22:14 | Beirdo | it's dopester's |
| 22:14 | Beirdo | and he seems to not be on |
| 22:14 | Wildgoose | Aha, thanks |
| 22:15 | Beirdo | not a problem |
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| 23:01 | GeckoFiend | doepster is on vacation |
| 23:01 | GeckoFiend | or a business trip or somthing. at any rate he's out of the country |
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| 23:03 | Beirdo | ahhh |
| 23:04 | Beirdo | if he came up towards Toronto and doesn't call me... :) |
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