| --- | Log | opened Mon Feb 14 00:00:54 2005 |
| 00:02 | Captain_Murdo | | heh, that user doing the comskip code stuff for SageTV is scrapping his DirectShow version because he says it's too slow. now he says he's writing his own mpeg decoder rather than using libmpeg2. |
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| 00:04 | Beirdo | hehe |
| 00:05 | Beirdo | bet he'll scrap that too |
| 00:07 | Captain_Murdo | | probably. he was doing good for a while supposedly. people were saying his mods worked ok, but I never got them to work anything near as good as my code. I think he tweaked it too much. he does have some good ideas though and has spent time on making it do CC and audio detection. I made a makefile for Linux so I could compile and run his code. he converted my commercial_skip.cpp back to straight C for some reason I can't recal |
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| 00:32 | Beirdo | Captain_Murdoch: I'd certainly prefer straight C myself, but that's just me |
| 00:33 | Captain_Murdo | | funny things it the code was originally C but I converted it to C++, then he converted it back. :) |
| 00:33 | Beirdo | heh |
| 00:33 | Beirdo | why not leave it as C in the first place? |
| 00:33 | Captain_Murdo | | watched the superbowl commercials tonight and it seemed like just about the only place flagging messed up was because of the short show segments that were less than 120 seconds. |
| 00:34 | Beirdo | nice |
| 00:34 | Captain_Murdo | | because I wanted it to conform better and I would have had to use statics all over the place which wouldnt' have worked well with running multiple flagging jobs at the same time, etc.. lots of reasons. |
| 00:35 | Beirdo | fair enough |
| 00:37 | Captain_Murdo | | earliest commercial_skip.cpp in CVS is only 133 lines.... http://cvs.mythtv.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/mythtv/libs/libmythtv/commercial_skip.cpp?annotate=1.1 |
| 00:38 | Beirdo | heh |
| 00:38 | Beirdo | gah! Sandra Bernhard in this Crossing Jordan... ick |
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| 00:48 | Captain_Murdo | | here's a quote for you from that guy (I'm replying to it now). "And, BTW, the improved commercial skip code base that MythTV is releasing came from the comskip that Sage users have had for a while now. Unless there is something that I didn't notice, there isn't anything new to add." |
| 00:48 | Beirdo | heheh |
| 00:48 | Beirdo | little does he know |
| 00:48 | Captain_Murdo | | so he (and another guy) copy my code, then enhance it some, then when I implement some new things they say I copied them. |
| 00:49 | Beirdo | I love how he's now taking credit for code he scammed from you |
| 00:49 | Captain_Murdo | | I'm putting in my reply (on the sage forum) that everything he's done has been discussed time and time again on the Myth lists and I've got a TODO list a page long but not enough tiem to implement it. |
| 00:49 | Beirdo | heh |
| 00:50 | Beirdo | Oh great, getting a cold |
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| 01:05 | Captain_Murdo | | http://forums.freytechnologies.com/forums/showthread.php?p=88426&postcount=738 |
| 01:09 | MajestiK | Captain_Murdoch: don't remember if I asked, but is there a way to turn the commercial flags into a cutlist from console only? I know the flagging might not be perfect.. but worst case, I just re-transcode it.. |
| 01:10 | Captain_Murdo | | nothing easy, but a shell or perl script to do it wouldn't be that hard. (or a patch to mythcommflag would be accepted). :) |
| 01:12 | MajestiK | yeah, I keep thinking of trying to do it.. should be pretty easy, just pull the commflag, reformat, and call it a cutlist :) |
| 01:12 | MajestiK | I'd want to do it the "right" way, through the backend if that's possible.. |
| 01:12 | Captain_Murdo | | no way to do it through the backend. all the cutlist and comm flagging code talk directly to the DB. |
| 01:14 | Captain_Murdo | | you're talking about only 20 lines of code to do it inside mythcommflag. create a QMap, call ProgramInfo::GetCutList, change the start/end cutlist marks into start/end commflag marks, then call ProgramInfo::SetCommBreakList with the same QMap. I think it's that easy. |
| 01:15 | MajestiK | hmm.. that's easier :) |
| 01:15 | MajestiK | However, that'll require me to learn C :) |
| 01:15 | Captain_Murdo | | maybe a few extra lines to hook it up to a command line option. |
| 01:15 | MajestiK | And, run a non-release version to test it too.. |
| 01:16 | MajestiK | I think I'll see if I can hack it out in python just to see how it behaves, then maybe see about the right way in mythcommflag sometime later.. |
| 01:17 | MajestiK | Although, I could just run a non-release mythcommflag against a release backend/frontend/everythingelse |
| 01:17 | Captain_Murdo | | as long as they're compiled against the same libmythtv |
| 01:18 | MajestiK | K |
| 01:19 | MajestiK | I should make the changes against CVS, or the release? |
| 01:19 | Captain_Murdo | | do you compile your own or use a package? |
| 01:19 | Captain_Murdo | | shouldn't matter, mythcommflag isn't changing that much. |
| 01:20 | Beirdo | jeez I'm stupid |
| 01:20 | Beirdo | gzip -dc initrd.gz |
| 01:20 | Beirdo | hehe |
| 01:20 | Beirdo | and the whole damn thing is spewing to the ssh session, ctrl-C ain't doing squat :) |
| 01:20 | MajestiK | I'm using gentoo right now.. so sorta both :) |
| 01:20 | MajestiK | mostly package though for all useful definitions |
| 01:21 | Captain_Murdo | | give me about 5 minutes and I'll have a patch to mythcommflag. |
| 01:22 | MajestiK | Cool |
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| 01:26 | Beirdo | Captain_Murdoch: OK, this is great... as playback ends, it freezes two or three times first |
| 01:27 | Captain_Murdo | | that's been discussed over on -users some I think. I never get to the end so I've never seen it. :) I use 'D' from within playback all the time as soon as the credits roll. |
| 01:27 | Beirdo | and I've also noticed that if the last commercial break ends too close to the end of the show, you miss the end of the show. |
| 01:32 | Captain_Murdo | | you mean too close to the end of the recording and you miss the end of the show (which is after the commercial?) |
| 01:33 | Beirdo | yep |
| 01:33 | Captain_Murdo | | how long before the end of the recording? |
| 01:33 | Beirdo | 15-20s maybe |
| 01:34 | Beirdo | next time I see it happen, I'll load up the commflags and make sure it's not marked to the end of the recordin |
| 01:35 | Captain_Murdo | | probably is. since it's only 15-20 seconds, it probably thinks it's comm unless it has enough stuff to indicate it's not like if it has a logo, etc.. |
| 01:35 | Beirdo | hmmm. aggravating |
| 01:36 | Captain_Murdo | | part of the reason I don't use auto-skip. :) |
| 01:36 | Beirdo | no kidding |
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| 01:42 | Captain_Murdo | | 81-line diff to add a --gencutlist feature. MajestiK, want a patch? |
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| 01:55 | Chutt | heh |
| 01:55 | Chutt | people are so whiney on the lists |
| 01:57 | Captain_Murdo | | Chutt, do you know if there was a reason that Geoffrey didn't recompute the timecodes in the transcoder instead of just using the originals? |
| 01:58 | Chutt | no idea |
| 01:58 | Chutt | feel free to take ownership of the transcoder, though |
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| 01:59 | Captain_Murdo | | :) not that I want it, but I do have a thing or two I'm looking at doing with it. testing now whether I can offse the timecodes so they are consecutive instead of jumping at every cutpoint. |
| 02:00 | Chutt | should be able to do that, yes |
| 02:00 | Captain_Murdo | | also would like to be able to resize so I can playback some HD/SDTV stuff on a slower frontend. |
| 02:00 | Beirdo | Please, if you do that, you will make my life infinitely easier with nuv2avi |
| 02:00 | Captain_Murdo | | testing my code, I figured I could do it, just trying to wrap my head around the transcoder and how it's files are handled by the player. :) |
| 02:01 | Beirdo | for non-transcoded mpeg4, it seems to be near perfect for most people |
| 02:01 | Beirdo | for transcoded stuff, it gets whacked by the timecode discontinuity |
| 02:01 | Captain_Murdo | | yeah, that's what I'm trying to fix. that's what Baylink's bug is caused by. |
| 02:02 | Beirdo | in spite of my various efforts to unwhack it... If it were done in the transcoder, muuuch nicer :) |
| 02:04 | Captain_Murdo | | I think it's a fairly trivial fix, testing now for the mpeg2->mpeg4 case. |
| 02:06 | MajestiK | Captain_Murdoch: Would love one :) |
| 02:06 | Captain_Murdo | | http://bc2va.dyndns.org:23510/chris/tmp/gencutlist.patch |
| 02:07 | MajestiK | cool.. port 23510? |
| 02:07 | Captain_Murdo | | yeah, cox won't allow port 80 |
| 02:07 | MajestiK | Ah.. |
| 02:07 | Captain_Murdo | | that's a home server, not my normal webserver. |
| 02:07 | Beirdo | cox sucks itself |
| 02:08 | MajestiK | How long have you had that one ready Beirdo? :) |
| 02:08 | Beirdo | they also don't allow NTP for some users, apparently |
| 02:08 | Beirdo | heh |
| 02:08 | MajestiK | Thanks Captain_Murdoch, I'll throw it in sometime soon, and see how it goes. |
| 02:09 | Captain_Murdo | | let me know if you find anything wrong. it doesn't print out anything to the screen, but you can check the cutlist after running it. just use --gencutlist with --chanid and --starttime options and it will copy the commercial skip list to the cutlist. |
| 02:10 | MajestiK | K, thx |
| 02:10 | Captain_Murdo | | it doesn't run flagging, just copies the list when you use --gencutlist |
| 02:10 | MajestiK | is --gencutlist in --help? |
| 02:10 | Captain_Murdo | | yeah |
| 02:11 | MajestiK | K, I'm out for now though.. gotta sleep so I can work tomorrow :) |
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| 02:41 | mdz | heh, playback seems to be a bit funny on powerpc |
| 02:42 | mdz | the keyframe seems to decode OK, but after that all bets are off |
| 02:43 | Beirdo | interesting |
| 02:43 | Beirdo | mdz: got my UML stuff partially working :) |
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| 03:00 | Captain_Murdo | | hmmm, it helps if I encode audio and video with the same timecode offset rather than offsetting one and not the other, who'da thunk it. |
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| 03:18 | Beirdo | hehe |
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| 03:32 | Captain_Murdo | | Beirdo, adjusting the timecodes works for cases where the transcoder is reencoding video, not just cutting. that will be a bit harder to fix. I'll take a look into that when I can. I have a patch I'll give Baylink to test. time to get some sleep now... :) |
| 03:32 | Beirdo | coool |
| 03:33 | Beirdo | good to know you are half there |
| 03:33 | Beirdo | I should go to bed too |
| 03:33 | Beirdo | still fighting my way through my first ever UML setup |
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| 12:16 | Chutt | mdz, err, why are you reverting backendsettings in your deb? |
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| 12:30 | mdz | Chutt: looks like a merge gone bad |
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| 12:30 | Chutt | heh |
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| 13:04 | mdz | Chutt: fixed in 0.17-3 |
| 13:05 | mdz | someone tried to tell me that their database upgrade didn't work (that the schema was updated, but DBSchemaVer wasn't), but I accept no responsibility for that |
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| 15:48 | Baylink | Hey, Captain. |
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| 16:13 | Captain_Murdo | | Hey, I think I have it working for transcodes where it has to convert the video (IE, not fifo and not just-cutting). The problem is because the transcoder doesn't change the timestamps on the frames, it just copies the old timestamps over. this causes problems in the player when the timestamps jump by too far because the A/V sync code doesn't know what to do. with my current mods, the timecodes are all changed and the video plays fine. if yo |
| 16:13 | Captain_Murdo | | u look at it frame-by-frame in the editor, you'll probably find that it isn't playing the last bit of audio over the new scene, it's actually skipping part of the old scene even though the video frames are there and you can see them if you step frame-by-frame in the editor. this is how I figured out what was going on. if you want to try a patch (it will only apply to new transcodes), you can download this: http://bc2va.dyndns.org:23510/chris/t |
| 16:13 | Captain_Murdo | | mp/mythtranscode_timecodes.patch I want to do some more testing and see if I can fix the cut-only case as well before committing. |
| 16:13 | | * Captain_Murd notices that was almost flood-long. |
| 16:14 | Baylink | Aha. |
| 16:14 | Baylink | :-) |
| 16:14 | Baylink | I can apply it to the production 0.17? |
| 16:15 | Chutt | just use cvs :p |
| 16:15 | Baylink | Aw, c'mon; I was trying to get back *off* the critical path for the damned box, Isaac. :-} |
| 16:16 | Baylink | Am I the *only person left* transcoding 2->4, BTW? I can't imagine no one's reported this problem. |
| 16:17 | Baylink | BTW, Chutt: could you change the .org frontpage link to point to the 0.17 release notes page? |
| 16:17 | Chutt | yeah, i'm planning on doing that |
| 16:18 | Baylink | Cool. That's my permanent home for that page. |
| 16:18 | Baylink | I'm chasing down how to translate the Moin pages to Media. |
| 16:18 | Chutt | how goes the converter? :p |
| 16:19 | Baylink | And I'm also looking into how to pull it back out for flat-file. |
| 16:19 | Baylink | The latter, ironically, may be easier. |
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| 16:19 | Baylink | "Be careful what you wish for..." |
| 16:21 | Baylink | Later all; will report, Captain; thanks. |
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| 16:27 | kvandivo | so chutt.. now that you've had it for a while.. how are you enjoying the pt-ae700u? |
| 16:27 | Chutt | it's nice |
| 16:28 | Chutt | wish the contrast was a bit better, though |
| 16:28 | kvandivo | hard to imagine going back, huh? |
| 16:28 | Chutt | yeah |
| 16:28 | Chutt | normal tvs are so tiny now |
| 16:28 | | * kvandivo throws back his head and cackles with insane glee. |
| 16:28 | Chutt | 'course, i think i'm up to around 280 hours on the lamp now |
| 16:28 | kvandivo | nod |
| 16:28 | Chutt | had it for 2 months |
| 16:29 | kvandivo | sounds about right.. the GF is probably at about the same rate, if not higher.. |
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| 16:31 | Baylink | Ah; projector. |
| 16:31 | Baylink | What are those lamps rated for? |
| 16:31 | Chutt | 3000 hours on high mode |
| 16:31 | Chutt | but i run mine in low, so, i dunno |
| 16:32 | Baylink | Probably 4500 or so. |
| 16:32 | Baylink | FIgure a bulb a year. |
| 16:32 | Baylink | Maybe 2 years. |
| 16:33 | Chutt | well, i'm _hoping_ that a decently priced 1080p native projector will be available by the time this bulb burns out |
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| 16:53 | kvandivo | good luck. heck, i'll hope right along with you.. i wouldn't mind having one of those.. |
| 16:57 | _GeckoFiend | I'm just pleased to have 720p now. |
| 17:01 | _GeckoFiend | Gotta get an amp for my antenna tonight and hope that raises my quality high enough to record my 3 main shows in high def |
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| 17:02 | _GeckoFiend | heading out again |
| 17:03 | kvandivo | i've got to decide whether or not i need multiple antenna to do the HD thing. According to antennaweb.org I need to have large uni-directional antenna with preamps pointing in 3 different directions.. |
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| 17:12 | gr8nash | fyi antennawebs color rate have had no barin on reality for me and my family at least |
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| 17:13 | gr8nash | it said i had violet.. (huge antenna and amp) and i used a desktop and no amp.. its perfect. |
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| 17:18 | kvandivo | gr8nash: good to know.. i had suspected as much, but couldn't find any data to back up my thoughts |
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| 18:28 | Blymie | Like, I have mythtv 1/2 way compiled on my amiga, buyt I need help to get it to work all the way.. can someone give an idea on what code to optimize so it gets better fps? |
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| 18:45 | Torq | mythtv on an amiga?!? are you serious |
| 18:45 | Torq | Youre taking the piss. amiga doesnt have enough horses in it |
| 18:48 | TheAsp | Torq: add on ppc boards |
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| 18:49 | TheAsp | blymie: what chip you using? |
| 18:49 | TheAsp | :) |
| 18:53 | fith | Yeah the kicker, from what he asked in #mythtv-users, was that he only had 1MB of ram in it... Sounds like a troll to me :) |
| 18:54 | Beirdo | don't feed the trolls |
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| 19:09 | Baylink | Torq; you needed me last night? |
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| 19:45 | Chutt | there, ordered a case & ram for the mini-itx motherboard |
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| 19:46 | hadees | Chutt, what case did you get? |
| 19:48 | Chutt | uhm |
| 19:48 | Chutt | ah |
| 19:48 | Chutt | travla c-158 |
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| 19:58 | Chutt | baylink, here? |
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| 20:01 | Baylink | Yep. |
| 20:02 | Baylink | 'sup, Chutt. |
| 20:02 | Chutt | so, should i install the devel version of media-wiki? |
| 20:03 | Baylink | 1.4 beta, they're telling me, yeah. rc1 is due in a week or two, I gather. |
| 20:04 | Baylink | I'd expected some mail back from DG etal on the mini-list by now; no reply. You get something I missed? |
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| 20:04 | Chutt | couple off-list things |
| 20:04 | Baylink | Hmmm... |
| 20:04 | Chutt | nothing major, really |
| 20:05 | Baylink | Ok. I'll be needing to get some sample page dumps from DG for translation |
| 20:05 | Chutt | you were the last one in that thread |
| 20:05 | Baylink | Ah. 'k. |
| 20:05 | Baylink | I'll poke him tonight; gotta put in CM's transcode patch |
| 20:06 | Chutt | i've got the subdomain all set up, anyway |
| 20:06 | Baylink | wiki.? Cool. |
| 20:07 | Baylink | You can go ahead and do the install if you want; I'll put an account on and you can admin me. |
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| 20:07 | Baylink | It's pretty trivial, IME. |
| 20:07 | Baylink | Set up 2 or 3 private ones already. |
| 20:07 | Baylink | (1.3.8, but still) |
| 20:07 | Chutt | i wanted to put a better php cache/accel on there, though |
| 20:07 | Chutt | so i'll probably go do that first |
| 20:08 | Chutt | heh, case is out of stock |
| 20:08 | Chutt | hrmph |
| 20:09 | Baylink | Look at what [[Wikipedia]] does for that; clearly, they have lots of practice. You might want to postpone it, for the nonce, though; I don't know what our hit counts are, but we're probably not pushing 90M hits/day |
| 20:09 | Baylink | :-) |
| 20:09 | Chutt | well, also for the main website. |
| 20:09 | Baylink | Ah. |
| 20:09 | Baylink | You're co-hosting them, then? |
| 20:09 | Baylink | virt- |
| 20:10 | Chutt | wiki.mythtv.org redirects to www.mythtv.org/wiki/ at the moment. |
| 20:11 | Baylink | Got it. |
| 20:12 | Chutt | hrm |
| 20:12 | Chutt | know if php4-imagick is required? |
| 20:12 | Chutt | it's not currently installable in unstable. |
| 20:13 | Baylink | I believe IM is optional, particularly if you have GD |
| 20:19 | Baylink | Captain_Murdoch, you round? |
| 20:22 | Baylink | Here's a weirdo: his patch leaves the binary different, but the identical bytecount. |
| 20:25 | Chutt | heh |
| 20:30 | Baylink | We're testing it now. |
| 20:30 | Baylink | Assuming my sister doesn't kill me. Suggestion: in edit mode, change 20 secds to 30... |
| 20:31 | Baylink | And should I hang an RFE on my suggestions about merging edit mode, or just mail them to the dev list? |
| 20:35 | Chutt | whatever you want :p |
| 20:37 | Baylink | 'k. |
| 20:50 | GeckoFiend | so the UI guru looked over Minimilist. in a nutshell "it's pretty good as it is but I could make it better given enough time to tinker" gonna try and hook him up with a lower end myth box |
| 20:51 | Baylink | Is theme? |
| 20:51 | GeckoFiend | yeah it's the new widescreen theme |
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| 20:52 | Baylink | Ah. Cool. Chutt: re caching: you know MW has built in memcached support right? |
| 20:53 | Chutt | wiki.mythtv.org |
| 20:53 | Chutt | yeah, and turck_mmcache |
| 20:53 | Baylink | COol. |
| 20:53 | Chutt | it's running |
| 20:53 | Chutt | i think |
| 20:54 | GeckoFiend | oooooooh flower power |
| 20:55 | Baylink | I have logged in; you may sprinkle holy sunflower pee upon me at your leisure. :-) |
| 20:55 | Baylink | I'll have a logo tomorrow, too, unless you wanted to do it. |
| 20:56 | Chutt | naw, less stuff i have to do the better |
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| 20:56 | Chutt | so, where's the admin interface? |
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| 20:57 | Baylink | Excellent question. :-) |
| 20:57 | Baylink | I haven't needed it yet. |
| 20:57 | Baylink | Wait one |
| 20:58 | Baylink | I believe that if you're logged in as WikiSysop, you get extra Special Pages that comprise it. |
| 20:58 | Baylink | Perhaps on the User List. |
| 20:58 | Chutt | yeah |
| 20:58 | Chutt | found it |
| 20:59 | Chutt | Special:MakeSysop |
| 20:59 | Chutt | err, Makesysop |
| 20:59 | Chutt | what's your user name? |
| 20:59 | Baylink | Baylink. |
| 21:00 | Baylink | (duh :-) |
| 21:00 | Chutt | do you want to be a beaurocrat? |
| 21:00 | Chutt | err |
| 21:00 | Baylink | Up to you. |
| 21:00 | Chutt | yeah, spelled right, too |
| 21:00 | Baylink | I forget what extra they can do. Sprinkling, i think. |
| 21:01 | Chutt | yeah, i'll just do that |
| 21:01 | Baylink | http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:System_admin |
| 21:01 | Baylink | FYI |
| 21:04 | Baylink | Got it. Thanks. |
| 21:04 | Chutt | restarting apache |
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| 21:05 | Baylink | Aw, c'mon; Chicago Hope is on the TV behind me... |
| 21:07 | Baylink | We need to think about licensing, Chutt |
| 21:09 | Chutt | hrm? |
| 21:10 | Baylink | What license we're considering people's contributions to be made under. |
| 21:10 | Chutt | ah |
| 21:10 | Baylink | Doesn't matter, (well, it does), but we need to pick one, and not change it. |
| 21:10 | Chutt | docs licenses suck |
| 21:10 | Baylink | I know. |
| 21:11 | Baylink | GFDL appears to suck worst. |
| 21:11 | Chutt | how about, 'everything you submit is owned by me' |
| 21:11 | Chutt | not that that's legal, or anything |
| 21:11 | Baylink | :-) We could do that. |
| 21:11 | Baylink | Yeah, it actually is. |
| 21:11 | Baylink | As long as everyone has notice in advance. |
| 21:11 | Baylink | I'd recommend a Creative Commons license. |
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| 21:11 | Baylink | I'll look and make a recommendation. |
| 21:12 | Chutt | ok |
| 21:12 | Chutt | should i disable anon edits? |
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| 21:13 | Baylink | For now, certainly. |
| 21:14 | Baylink | In the long run... I dunno. We've gotten a lot of useful stuff the last week, since the slashdotting, from anons. |
| 21:17 | Chutt | ok, i can leave it enabled |
| 21:17 | Chutt | anyway |
| 21:17 | Baylink | Well, until we get the pages inhaled, we might *want* to shut it off... |
| 21:17 | Chutt | <shrug> |
| 21:17 | Chutt | no one's going to go there |
| 21:18 | Chutt | i've only talked about it in here |
| 21:18 | Chutt | and it's not linked from anywhere |
| 21:18 | Baylink | One can only hope. I guess we're safe. And I put up a Go Away sign on the mainpage for the nonce, anyway. Yeah, leave it open |
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| 21:44 | Beirdo | OK, registered on the new wiki. |
| 21:48 | Baylink | Chutt: is there a functional difference between an empty cutlist, and a NULL one? We're seeing a falls-over-dead problem trying to "go back into" edit mode, all of a sudden. |
| 21:58 | Baylink | Pretty reliably, if we try to edit a show with 'editing'=1, it crashes hard. |
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| 22:19 | Baylink | What file has the include for the comflagged column in recorded? |
| 22:21 | Captain_Murdo | | programinfo.h CommFlagStatuses |
| 22:21 | Baylink | Thanks. |
| 22:22 | Baylink | I thought the crash was coming from edited=1, it's not. |
| 22:22 | Baylink | Patch appears to have worked. |
| 22:22 | Captain_Murdo | | so you've transcoded with a cutlist and files are playing fine? |
| 22:22 | Baylink | I think I'm still a frame or two off, but it's in livetv, too, so it must be playback related. |
| 22:23 | Baylink | I still get the outpoint blop, oddly, but the audio sync seems ok, now |
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| 22:41 | Baylink | Captain: in lieu of that column, any idea what *else* could pop the "commercials are being flagged" icon? No jobs in queue, either. |
| 22:42 | Beirdo | there's a setting in recordedmarkup I think too isn't there with a type that's negative |
| 22:42 | Baylink | Looked; no records. |
| 22:43 | Baylink | All type 7 for that starttime |
| 22:46 | Beirdo | hmm |
| 22:46 | Beirdo | dunno :) |
| 22:46 | Captain_Murdo | | In MainServer::HandleQueryRecordings, it looks like it's just the commflagged and editting fields that would trigger that icon to turn on. |
| 22:47 | Baylink | I'll investigate further. I guess I'm going to have to setup for backtrace generation. |
| 22:47 | Captain_Murdo | | that's the FL_EDITING flag. |
| 22:47 | Baylink | Cool. Thanks again for the pointer, Cap. |
| 22:47 | Captain_Murdo | | what is the value of the commflagged field. |
| 22:48 | Baylink | I think I've closed my MyAdmin by now Wait one. |
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| 22:50 | Baylink | I have a single '2', about a dozen '1's, and mostly '0's |
| 22:50 | Baylink | THe one that's breaking is a 0 |
| 22:51 | Captain_Murdo | | doesn't look right. 0 shouldn't do anything, it just means it hasn't been flagged. and editing is 0 for that record? |
| 22:51 | Baylink | Until it crashes, then it gets set to 1 |
| 22:52 | Baylink | And yet, I have the icon |
| 22:52 | Captain_Murdo | | but before it crashes, is the icon on? |
| 22:53 | Baylink | We'll try again. editing=0, commflagged=0 |
| 22:53 | Baylink | And has a cutlist already. Survey ... says: |
| 22:54 | Baylink | Says we don't have the icon anymore. One moment for crash results. |
| 22:54 | Baylink | 'P' plays, 'E' then crashes. |
| 22:55 | Captain_Murdo | | if it crashes in edit mode and leaves the editing column set to 1 then it will show the icon next time you go in because that icon indicates editing or commflagging. |
| 22:55 | Baylink | Yeah; I'm on that now. So the crash is being prompted by something else. |
| 22:56 | Captain_Murdo | | try going into edit via the MENU 'M' key for kicks. does it crash right when it goes in or when? |
| 22:56 | Baylink | Cutlist syntax seems ok |
| 22:56 | Baylink | Now, I can't get back into Watch Recording for some reason. |
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| 22:57 | Baylink | 2005-02-14 22:56:40.018 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 4)rn2005-02-14 22:57:00.019 ReadStringList timeout (quick).rn2005-02-14 22:57:00.020 Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION: |
| 22:58 | Baylink | BE seems still up |
| 22:58 | Baylink | Nope, I'm lying. |
| 22:58 | Baylink | It's in the process table but mythweb can't get to it either. |
| 22:58 | Baylink | Reboot time. |
| 22:59 | Baylink | Out of space, for no apparent reason. |
| 22:59 | Baylink | <sigh> |
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| 23:01 | Beirdo | computers so suck :) |
| 23:01 | | * Baylink weeps |
| 23:04 | Baylink | Oh goodie: the amazing exploding transcodes again. |
| 23:05 | Baylink | I *so* didn't need extra stress. |
| 23:06 | Beirdo | I hear ya |
| 23:07 | | * mikegrb pulls on beirdo to stress him |
| 23:07 | Beirdo | heh |
| 23:08 | Beirdo | having a cold that put me outta action today's enough stress for me |
| 23:08 | mikegrb | Beirdo: I had lobster bisque, fetta cheese on toasted bread, giant pasta shells with ricotta cheese and tomato sauce and these greek things with grape leafs wrapped around them for dinner |
| 23:08 | mikegrb | Beirdo: you really should get a wife ;) |
| 23:08 | Beirdo | yeah, I know |
| 23:08 | Beirdo | she cooked all that? |
| 23:08 | Beirdo | wow |
| 23:08 | mikegrb | oh, and don't forget the chocolate fondue and strawberries for desert |
| 23:09 | Beirdo | you musta been busy with the little guy then :) |
| 23:09 | Beirdo | that's a lot of cooking |
| 23:09 | mikegrb | she cooked the pasta and the sauce |
| 23:09 | mikegrb | and rice to go with the lobster bisque |
| 23:09 | mikegrb | the rest she picked up from the international foods mart |
| 23:09 | mikegrb | the only place with more samples then sam's |
| 23:10 | Beirdo | :) |
| 23:10 | Beirdo | that sounds like a good dinner though |
| 23:16 | mikegrb | yes indeed |
| 23:16 | mikegrb | I stuffed myself |
| 23:17 | Beirdo | good job :) |
| 23:18 | Baylink | And suddenly, my backend cant find transcode. |
| 23:18 | | * Baylink strangles computer |
| 23:19 | | * Beirdo hands Baylink a sledgehammer, and a camcorder to Baylink's sister |
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| 23:19 | Baylink | Fuck me to tears. |
| 23:20 | Beirdo | I'll pass |
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| 23:21 | mikegrb | I'll take that |
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| 23:22 | Aneurysm9 | anyone know why I would get high IO wait values in top using mythtv but not using dd+mplayer? |
| 23:22 | Aneurysm9 | this is with a PVR-500 (dd+mplayer) though I get high IO wait with a BT878 too |
| 23:22 | mikegrb | haha |
| 23:22 | | * Beirdo looks at the topic. |
| 23:22 | mikegrb | you are so in the wrong channel |
| 23:22 | Beirdo | nope, wrong channel, dude |
| 23:23 | mikegrb | you obviously have no clue what mythtv is or does |
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| 23:23 | warlord | Chutt: you around? |
| 23:23 | Aneurysm9 | the idiots in the users channel seem more interested in their self-absorbed babble than people's problems |
| 23:23 | Aneurysm9 | I do have a pretty good idea what mythtv does, I've been using it since .12 |
| 23:23 | Beirdo | Aneurysm9: what difference does that make, you are off-topic here |
| 23:24 | Chutt | warlord, yup |
| 23:24 | Aneurysm9 | well, excuse me, just hoped I might be able to get some help |
| 23:24 | mikegrb | Beirdo: http://reviews.cnet.com/Harmony_H659/4505-7900_7-30588996.html?tag=txt <-- my other valentine's present |
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| 23:24 | warlord | Chutt: I'm still using PVR-350 output, watching a currently-recording TV and we noticed that it's keeping time improperly again. ISTR this bug pre-0.16, and it seems to have been reintroduced in 0.17 |
| 23:25 | Chutt | heh |
| 23:25 | Chutt | you're on your own |
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| 23:25 | Chutt | i'm not using one of those anymore |
| 23:25 | warlord | :( |
| 23:25 | warlord | Finally got an hdtv? ;) |
| 23:25 | Chutt | yup |
| 23:25 | warlord | heh |
| 23:25 | Chutt | sorry :p |
| 23:26 | Beirdo | so hopefully someone else will take up the PVR-350 torch |
| 23:26 | Beirdo | won't be me, I don't have one either |
| 23:26 | Chutt | and i got tired of the driver sucking |
| 23:27 | Beirdo | can't blame you there |
| 23:27 | warlord | It was pretty much the same bug I remember having a long time ago -- we're watching along with the recording, maybe a couple minutes behind realtime. It comes to a commercial so we forward-skip 30 seconds, but the video actually jumps backwards (to something we already saw) |
| 23:27 | | * warlord can't blame you there, either. |
| 23:27 | warlord | the driver is _mostly_ stable, but... |
| 23:28 | Chutt | heh |
| 23:28 | Chutt | it's the 'but...' =) |
| 23:28 | warlord | which HDTV input card(s) do you use? |
| 23:28 | warlord | yea... |
| 23:28 | Chutt | none, at the moment |
| 23:28 | Chutt | but i'm hooked up to my projector at 1280x720 |
| 23:28 | warlord | Oh, so you just output NTSC 480p? |
| 23:28 | Chutt | i've got an air2pc sitting on my desk |
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| 23:28 | Chutt | well, it's upconverted |
| 23:29 | warlord | cool... |
| 23:29 | warlord | I need to get an hdtv this spring, I think. or summer. |
| 23:30 | warlord | Ah well, I suppose I'll have to figure out what happened here.. This is a WAF issue here. :( |
| 23:31 | Beirdo | mikegrb: that's one bitchin' remote :) |
| 23:31 | mikegrb | Beirdo: it so is, it sends ir commands to my tv I didn't know existed and the original remote didn't have |
| 23:31 | mikegrb | Beirdo: ie, Switch to Input 7 |
| 23:31 | mikegrb | whereas I would have had to hit the input button 6 times |
| 23:32 | mikegrb | I thought tv listings on the remote's lcd sounded funky but it is quite usable |
| 23:33 | Beirdo | cool |
| 23:33 | mikegrb | you define favorite channels so it shows you what is on those, you hit the softbutton next to that show and bam, you're watching it |
| 23:33 | mikegrb | or you can hit the listings button again to go through all channels |
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