| --- | Log | opened Mon Jan 31 00:00:44 2005 |
| --- | Day | changed Mon Jan 31 2005 |
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| 00:08 | Netslayer | fkn NYTimes reporter.. what a slanted story |
| 00:10 | Tommck | anyone know why my CVS install is missing the mysql.txt file? |
| 00:10 | Netslayer | Chutt, so what do you think about that article? i'm sure they didn't interview you right |
| 00:11 | Captain_Murdo | | geckofriend jumping on some clueless guy's case on slashdot..... :) http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=137689&threshold=1&commentsort=0&tid=129&tid=186&tid=8&tid=106&mode=thread&pid=11513628#11515179 |
| 00:12 | Captain_Murdo | | Netslayer: they didn't but I think he said he knew the article was being printed. |
| 00:14 | Beirdo | hehhe |
| 00:14 | Beirdo | go, geckofiend :) |
| 00:15 | | * Captain_Murd just learned (from another clueless slashdot user) that Myth is Linux only and that they ported Freevo over to FreeBSD (wow, it's python, how hard could the port have been) |
| 00:15 | | * Captain_Murd is getting his "laugh at stupid people's comments" fix in for tonight. |
| 00:16 | Tommck | who cares if it runs on FreeBSD anyway? |
| 00:16 | Captain_Murdo | | this guy evidently. :) |
| 00:16 | Tommck | I love how some people rate software on how many platforms it runs on.. |
| 00:17 | Chutt | myth compiles/runs on freebsd |
| 00:17 | Captain_Murdo | | best software in the world, "hello world" |
| 00:17 | Chutt | and i'm a college student, apparently |
| 00:17 | Tommck | anyone who's written cross-platform C++ code knows it a huge pain in the ass... and I'd rather Myth concentrate on functionality and ease of use, not getting it to work on FreeBSD or the Mac Mini |
| 00:17 | Captain_Murdo | | runs everywhere, ported to many languages, etc.. |
| 00:17 | Tommck | Captain :) |
| 00:17 | Chutt | tommck, why not? |
| 00:17 | Chutt | cross platform code is _better_ code. |
| 00:18 | Captain_Murdo | | Tommck: the thing is that Myth is already running on several other OS, even non-x86 ones. |
| 00:18 | Tommck | I disagree... it's all the OS-specific stuff... like sockets, etc that wind up having to be abstracted and take a lot of time to do... I don't mean the main core... of course, you should stick with standards |
| 00:18 | Chutt | i haven't done a single thing for sockets |
| 00:19 | Tommck | of course.. the last time I did cross platform C++ was in 1996 |
| 00:19 | Chutt | that's what using these things called 'toolkits' are for |
| 00:19 | Tommck | scratch that...98 |
| 00:19 | Tommck | Chutt - this is where I feel old... |
| 00:19 | Captain_Murdo | | Tommck: not to sound offensive, but we can tell. :) |
| 00:19 | Chutt | oh, and cvs creates mysql.txt if necessary. |
| 00:19 | Tommck | I understand. |
| 00:19 | Chutt | i've written cross platform network stuff, etc, etc |
| 00:20 | Tommck | Chutt - according to the docs, it's necessary for a front-end to connect to the back end |
| 00:20 | Chutt | i don't see the need to do it again when Qt does it all. |
| 00:20 | Chutt | Tommck, and the docs are for 0.16. |
| 00:20 | Tommck | Chutt - me too.. 2 or 3 times... and Qt didn't exist when I was doing it |
| 00:20 | Chutt | why 2 or 3 times? |
| 00:20 | Tommck | Chutt - oh... |
| 00:20 | Tommck | different companies |
| 00:20 | Tommck | non-OSS :) |
| 00:20 | Chutt | the first time you run mythfrontend, it attempts to connect to the mysql server using the default settings |
| 00:20 | Chutt | if it fails, it prompts you. |
| 00:20 | Chutt | then creates the file. |
| 00:21 | Tommck | not allowed to take code with you when the employer owns it |
| 00:21 | Tommck | Chutt - sweet :) |
| 00:21 | Netslayer | oh so mythtv finally doesn't require any config files :-P |
| 00:21 | Chutt | which you would have known if you had just tried it, but... |
| 00:21 | Chutt | yup. |
| 00:21 | Netslayer | i remember those discussions |
| 00:21 | Tommck | I am kind of a "planner" :) |
| 00:21 | Chutt | aside from the initial database setup |
| 00:21 | Netslayer | hows that mythsteam stuff working? |
| 00:21 | Tommck | I don't just try things... get myself in trouble that way |
| 00:21 | Netslayer | stream |
| 00:21 | Chutt | askind questions first is silly |
| 00:21 | Chutt | never learn anything |
| 00:22 | dmakalsky | Hi, can someone please point me to the correct modprobe.conf setting for the pvr 350 |
| 00:22 | Chutt | dmakalsky, this isn't the ivtv channel. |
| 00:22 | Tommck | Chutt - I've had plenty 0problems even with asking lots of questions :) |
| 00:22 | dmakalsky | oh, I am sorry |
| 00:22 | Chutt | nor the mythtv users help channel |
| 00:22 | dmakalsky | which should I use? |
| 00:22 | Netslayer | dmakalsky, #ivtv |
| 00:22 | Chutt | is anyone even there anymore? :p |
| 00:22 | dmakalsky | my apologies |
| 00:22 | Netslayer | err #ivtv-dev |
| 00:23 | Netslayer | ivtv looks empty |
| 00:23 | Chutt | captain_murdoch, new commercial skip stuff's working pretty well for me |
| 00:23 | Chutt | you just need to add some simple aspect ratio detection, and i think it'll catch the few things it's missing |
| 00:25 | Captain_Murdo | | cool. yeah, I've got code started on that and have a guy who is supposed to be getting me a sample where the video actually changes, not just letterboxxed. that way I can check for both. |
| 00:25 | Chutt | dvb? |
| 00:26 | Captain_Murdo | | yeah, a guy in the UK. |
| 00:26 | Chutt | the decoder tells the videoout class about those types of changes |
| 00:26 | Chutt | shouldn't be difficult |
| 00:26 | Chutt | i think you applied that patch that dealt with the osd repositioning on size change, right? |
| 00:26 | Captain_Murdo | | right. I put a hook in NVP::SetVideoParams to call a method in the commercial flagger if the commDetect object exists. that way during flagging, I should catch those. |
| 00:27 | Captain_Murdo | | yeah. seems to work but I thought there might be one or two places where it needed a little tweaking on the positioning. seemed off a little on one aspect I think but I can't remember for sure. |
| 00:27 | Chutt | saw some complaints about it |
| 00:27 | Chutt | might have been related to aspect changes |
| 00:28 | Captain_Murdo | | think that was Kevin's. did they say they were using current CVS? I saw someone talking about it but didn't see if they were referring to 0.16 or CVS. |
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| 00:28 | Chutt | yeah |
| 00:28 | Captain_Murdo | | Kevin's code.. |
| 00:28 | Chutt | current cvs |
| 00:28 | Captain_Murdo | | wonder if it's 16:9 content initially. couldn't test that case. |
| 00:29 | Captain_Murdo | | I'll make a note to look over it again to see if I can reproduce anything. |
| 00:29 | Chutt | cool, thanks. |
| 00:29 | Chutt | no big deal, but if you get a chance =) |
| 00:31 | Captain_Murdo | | well, I'm not working on anything that needs to go in before 0.17. I can't reproduce that auto-skip bug some people have mentioned. I've debated reworking that code but will have to think about it a bit. I think I made it too complicated to begin with and maybe it's got a hole somewhere. should just replicate the cutlist skip code since they both do the same thing essentially just with different skip lists. |
| 00:32 | Chutt | should be using the same code |
| 00:33 | Captain_Murdo | | yeah. |
| 00:36 | Captain_Murdo | | hadn't thought of it that way, but that would make it easier. just make a common QMap. populate with cutlist if one exists, else skip list if auto-skip is on, then if map is non-empty use it to skip. |
| 00:37 | Captain_Murdo | | probably have time to code that up in the next day or so. |
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| 00:39 | Captain_Murdo | | some else promoting a p2p app for video in Myth on the -users list. |
| 00:39 | Captain_Murdo | | err, suggesting, not promoting cause there isn't one. |
| 00:41 | Chutt | fuckin hell |
| 00:41 | Chutt | the dvb code isn't doing database stuff right. |
| 00:42 | dopester | uh oh |
| 00:42 | dopester | the last of prepares? |
| 00:42 | dopester | er lack? |
| 00:42 | Chutt | no |
| 00:42 | Chutt | the lack of locking |
| 00:42 | Chutt | and using the default database connection instead of the passed in one |
| 00:42 | Chutt | the lack of prepares is broken, too, but this is more serious. |
| 00:43 | Chutt | SIScan::UpdateServicesInDB |
| 00:43 | Chutt | QSqlQuery query; |
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| 00:43 | Chutt | creates a query using the default database connection |
| 00:43 | Chutt | without any sort of locking |
| 00:43 | Chutt | SIScan::ScanServicesSourceID |
| 00:43 | Chutt | does it properly. |
| 00:43 | Chutt | i was going to add the prepare/bindValues for you, but i don't feel like rewriting all that shit |
| 00:44 | dopester | naw SIScan needs a lot of work |
| 00:44 | Chutt | it needs reworked in the next couple days. |
| 00:44 | dopester | its not your problem |
| 00:44 | Chutt | else i'll have to pull it. |
| 00:44 | dopester | :) |
| 00:44 | Chutt | i won't ship with obvious crashes |
| 00:45 | Chutt | SIScan::UpdateTransportsInDB |
| 00:45 | Chutt | broken |
| 00:45 | Chutt | SIScan::GetDVBTID |
| 00:45 | Chutt | broken |
| 00:45 | dopester | thats it? i thought it was much worse than that |
| 00:45 | Chutt | SIScan::GenerateNewChanID |
| 00:45 | Chutt | broken. |
| 00:45 | Chutt | SIScan::AddEvents |
| 00:46 | Chutt | siparser.cpp looks fine. |
| 00:47 | Chutt | there's unsafe code in dvbchannel.cpp |
| 00:47 | Chutt | and dvbtransporteditor.cpp |
| 00:47 | Chutt | scanwizard looks fine. |
| 00:48 | dopester | let me write this down.. :) |
| 00:48 | Chutt | _all_ database access must be locked |
| 00:48 | dopester | :) |
| 00:48 | Chutt | _all_ QSqlQuery objects must be initialized either by a db->exec() |
| 00:48 | Chutt | or by using a constructor with a db object in them |
| 00:48 | Chutt | no QSqlQuery query; |
| 00:50 | Chutt | your patch is in cvs. |
| 00:52 | dopester | chutt: both of them? |
| 00:53 | Chutt | not the log level |
| 00:53 | Chutt | i don't want to recompile everything at the moment. |
| 00:54 | dopester | ok thats fine |
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| 00:54 | dopester | just as long as you saw it :) |
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| 00:54 | lyken | i read in the mailing lists of september 2004 that postgresql was discussed as being supported |
| 00:54 | lyken | but i can't find anything else |
| 00:54 | lyken | has that happened? |
| 00:57 | Chutt | nope |
| 00:57 | Chutt | no one's done the work. |
| 00:57 | dopester | chutt: so QSqlQuery query(db_conn); is ok? |
| 00:57 | Chutt | nope |
| 00:57 | Chutt | doesn't exist in 3.1 |
| 00:58 | Chutt | you need to use query(QString::null, db_conn) |
| 00:58 | dopester | ok thats easy enough to fix in 1 pass hopefully.. |
| 00:58 | Chutt | nope |
| 00:58 | Chutt | you should also fix the prepare/bindValue things while you're at it :p |
| 00:58 | lyken | ok thanks Chutt ill take a look at the source and see what needs to be done |
| 00:59 | dopester | the prepare/bindValue going to get it axed as well? |
| 00:59 | Chutt | lyken, no, read my mails on the list, first |
| 00:59 | lyken | i have |
| 00:59 | Chutt | dopester, well, it's only the queries dealing with strings that _need_ it |
| 00:59 | Chutt | shouldn't be difficult |
| 00:59 | dopester | yeah i just want to do this in steps |
| 00:59 | Chutt | lyken, i go through how i'd want it to be done - ie., minimal impact to the code |
| 01:00 | dopester | i thouht al the string queries had prepares but i'll get it out.. |
| 01:00 | lyken | Chutt: yeah i was going to do that |
| 01:00 | Chutt | lyken, find david hardeman's more recent messages - he had been working on it, submitted some initial patches |
| 01:00 | Chutt | but hasn't posted since december sometime |
| 01:00 | Chutt | might want to touch base with him to see if he's still interested on working on it |
| 01:00 | Chutt | i probably pissed him off a bit, though |
| 01:00 | dopester | grr.. the QSqlQuery stuff i betcha i cut and pasted from Kenneths first crap code.. |
| 01:01 | Chutt | so, i dunno |
| 01:01 | lyken | Chutt: heh, ok |
| 01:01 | lyken | hmm is there a way to search the mail list? |
| 01:01 | Chutt | there's a link on the website to gossamer-threads |
| 01:01 | Chutt | he submitted this bigass patch that touched basically every query in libmyth/libmythtv (ie, quite a lot) |
| 01:01 | dopester | chutt: have you grepped for QSqlQuery query? its everywhere not just my code |
| 01:01 | Chutt | dopester, it's allowed in certain places. |
| 01:02 | Chutt | not in secondary threads like yours, though :p |
| 01:02 | Chutt | but that bigass patch had some errors in it |
| 01:02 | lyken | *nods* |
| 01:03 | Chutt | so i spend 4 or 5 hours applying it fixing things, then he comes along and says it had some broken parts and didn't exactly say where |
| 01:03 | lyken | yeah ive been installing myth on machines with mysql but for my install i want postgres |
| 01:03 | Chutt | and just sent in an updated patch |
| 01:03 | Chutt | just created a lot more work for me, so i put off fixing things, then he got annoyed when i didn't apply stuff right away |
| 01:03 | Chutt | aanyway |
| 01:03 | Chutt | back to applying other people's patches |
| 01:04 | lyken | oks |
| 01:04 | lyken | ill take all this in and see what i can do thats constructive |
| 01:04 | Chutt | that'd be cool |
| 01:04 | Chutt | i'd _like_ other dbs supported, i just don't want to do any work for it =) |
| 01:04 | lyken | with the new postgres release a lot of the concerns about the version differences looks to be resolved |
| 01:05 | lyken | i can understand that |
| 01:09 | lyken | ok found the thread |
| 01:09 | lyken | ill read through this and get back to you if i can help |
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| 01:24 | lyken | what os are you dev'ing on? |
| 01:24 | lyken | debian unstable still? |
| 01:25 | Chutt | yup |
| 01:25 | Chutt | run ubuntu on my production tv box, though |
| 01:25 | lyken | ok |
| 01:25 | lyken | i was gonna do my dev on slackware.. |
| 01:26 | Chutt | whatever you're comfortable with |
| 01:26 | lyken | oks |
| 01:26 | lyken | now to get me a new tv card and get to work on this |
| 01:27 | lyken | thanks for the pointers |
| 01:27 | Chutt | np =) |
| 01:27 | dopester | I got the QSqlQuery stuff taken care of.. now just the locks |
| 01:30 | Chutt | cool |
| 01:30 | Chutt | i noticed one place you've got a return query.result(0)afbalba |
| 01:30 | Chutt | or whatnot |
| 01:30 | Chutt | you need to let go of the lock _after_ all use of the query's done, though |
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| 01:30 | Chutt | so you can't return like that unless you use an automutex |
| 01:31 | Chutt | one of hirobumi shimada's patches touched settings.h, so i'm putting in your other patch at the same time |
| 01:31 | Chutt | less recompiling =) |
| 01:31 | dopester | :) |
| 01:32 | dopester | Ahh yes the infamous GetDVBTID function.. that thing is so damn hairy anyway.. I'll copy it to an int and return taht value instea of the return Query.whatever |
| 01:32 | dopester | its really hard to write something generalized for DVB, ATSC and deal with all the broken crap every network seems to do |
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| 01:34 | dopester | chutt: was the lack of locking just in siscan or was it elsewhere? |
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| 01:37 | Chutt | not quite sure |
| 01:37 | Chutt | i just looked through there, and did a search for the others |
| 01:40 | dopester | k np |
| 01:41 | dopester | i'll finish it up tomorrow i am getting to tired to do the rest and test it tonight |
| 01:41 | Chutt | that's cool. |
| 01:41 | dopester | i also emailed john and jesper.. siscan is mess anyway.. |
| 01:41 | Chutt | you've got until the weekend :p |
| 01:41 | dopester | or until you set your air2pc :) |
| 01:42 | dopester | i do plan on making siscan about 50% as big once i get rid of my notes in there |
| 01:43 | dopester | i think you found an issue nagging me with the returing of that query toint btw :) |
| 01:43 | Chutt | heh |
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| 01:47 | Chutt | http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2005-January/071310.html |
| 01:47 | Chutt | i'm so funny! |
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| 01:47 | Chutt | heh |
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| 01:48 | lyken | heh |
| 01:49 | dopester | heh |
| 01:53 | dopester | Chutt: GenerateNewChanID is called only when the lock is already enabled.. It ok to leave it alone? |
| 01:54 | Chutt | yup |
| 01:55 | Chutt | put a comment there or something that says that, though |
| 01:55 | Chutt | something like // must be called with lock held |
| 01:56 | dopester | k np |
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| 02:15 | BlurredWeasel | | are there any issues upgrading mythtv from .15 to .16 (gentoo) beyond just doing the emerge mythtv (and modules I have)? |
| 02:16 | riksta | topic |
| 02:16 | BlurredWeasel | | shoot |
| 02:16 | BlurredWeasel | | sorry |
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| 02:33 | Chutt | TOTAL Max: 12.24 Mbits/s Avg: 2.11 Mbits/s Cur: 1.88 Mbits/s |
| 02:33 | Chutt | not bad |
| 02:35 | Chutt | did almost 60GB worth of traffic yesterday |
| 02:36 | stoffel | good morning |
| 02:36 | stoffel | Chutt: did you see my comment about mythvideo's compile failure with --enable-exif? |
| 02:36 | Chutt | nope |
| 02:37 | Chutt | mythgallery, though? |
| 02:37 | stoffel | err, right |
| 02:38 | stoffel | 14:02 stoffel > anyone here familiar with the mythgallery code? it doesn't compile on debian unstable configured |
| 02:38 | stoffel | with --enable-exif. the exif_entry_get_value function seems to have changed |
| 02:39 | stoffel | in the eif library that is, it now expects 3 arguments but gallery only calls it with one |
| 02:39 | Chutt | ah |
| 02:39 | Chutt | crap |
| 02:39 | Chutt | hrm |
| 02:40 | stoffel | exiftags, libexif10 and the libexif-dev package should suffice, right? |
| 02:40 | Chutt | yeah |
| 02:40 | riksta | just read that NY Times article |
| 02:41 | riksta | pretty kool to get on there :) |
| 02:41 | Chutt | happen to know if libexif has a version number define? |
| 02:41 | riksta | albeit for the wrong reasons :) |
| 02:42 | stoffel | sorry, no. what should i be looking for? |
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| 02:43 | Chutt | they don't have a version number in their headers |
| 02:43 | Chutt | how lame. |
| 02:44 | stoffel | sorry, i gotta do some payed work now. bbl |
| 02:47 | Chutt | well, hmm |
| 02:47 | Chutt | running pkg-config --modversion libexif |
| 02:47 | Chutt | works, but, i don't know when the api changed. |
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| 02:50 | Chutt | stoffel, if you can find out when (what version) the api changed, i'll fix it up to compile with both. |
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| 02:51 | stoffel | ok. do you still plan to release 0.17 next weekend? |
| 02:54 | Chutt | yup |
| 02:54 | Chutt | unless something big comes up and requires more time to fix |
| 02:54 | Chutt | or work requires more of my time than it should |
| 02:55 | stoffel | ok |
| 02:57 | Dibblah | Diff for /libexif/libexif/libexif/exif-entry.c between version 1.42 and 1.43 contains the change. |
| 02:57 | Dibblah | ie 1 year, 3 weeks ago. |
| 02:58 | stoffel | and nobody noticed it yet? wow |
| 02:58 | Dibblah | "To make the library thread safe" |
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| 03:01 | Dibblah | ... I'm probably completely wrong, but isn't exif_find_record a bit more "public" code? |
| 03:02 | stoffel | i have no idea, i'm not a prgrammer. i just tried to compile it with exif support yesterday. |
| 03:02 | stoffel | but thanks for fixing mythgallery Dibblah ;) |
| 03:03 | Dibblah | Eh? I didn't do nothing? |
| 03:04 | stoffel | not yet :) |
| 03:08 | Dibblah | I'm just doing this because I'm not good enough to do real, functional patches, yet. So I'll do the easy stuff. |
| 03:10 | Dibblah | Something broken on the Myth web CVS viewer? |
| 03:10 | Dibblah | http://pastebin.ca/5021 |
| 03:11 | Dibblah | While viewing http://cvs.mythtv.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/mythgallery/mythgallery/galleryutil.cpp?rev=1.1&sortby=date&view=log |
| 03:11 | Chutt | branch stuff's slightly broken |
| 03:11 | Chutt | i'm too lazy to fix it :p |
| 03:11 | Dibblah | ... But we don't care because we don't need no steenking branches :) |
| 03:11 | Chutt | but since i don't use branches, i don't really care |
| 03:12 | Chutt | exactly! =) |
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| 03:15 | Dibblah | Okay. The change hit others as well. It's any version 0.6.9+ |
| 03:17 | Octane | nice to see that fucker who posted his link to that freeipod crap gone |
| 03:18 | riksta | fucker?! he was giving us free ipods man!!!! |
| 03:18 | Beirdo | free is good :) |
| 03:18 | riksta | i was being sarcastic |
| 03:18 | Beirdo | ah crap, I'd better charge my not-free iPod |
| 03:19 | riksta | i want a mini |
| 03:19 | Beirdo | not enough storage :) |
| 03:19 | riksta | i know |
| 03:19 | Octane | lol riksta |
| 03:19 | riksta | bah gotta get ready 4 uni |
| 03:20 | Chutt | o_cee, http://cvs.mythtv.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/themestringstool/ |
| 03:22 | Octane | i wonder how may people clicked his freeipod link |
| 03:22 | Octane | i hope he doesnt get one now |
| 03:22 | Chutt | he's still _receiving_ mail from the list |
| 03:22 | Chutt | he's just moderated |
| 03:22 | riksta | like anyone actually gets them anyway |
| 03:22 | Chutt | and can't unsubscribe/resubscribe, since his address is banned |
| 03:23 | Octane | lol! |
| 03:23 | Beirdo | I think some people do get them, but what a dumb thing to put on a mailing list |
| 03:25 | Chutt | actually, i think i banned his domain |
| 03:25 | Chutt | but, whatever |
| 03:25 | Chutt | i've had enough of people selling crap or otherwise using my list for personal gain |
| 03:25 | Octane | yah cuz he actually created a myth-specific user |
| 03:25 | Beirdo | yeah, I'm not surprised, Chutt |
| 03:26 | riksta | what about people that sell mythtv boxes? |
| 03:26 | riksta | :D |
| 03:26 | Chutt | not without asking me first. |
| 03:26 | Chutt | ah well |
| 03:26 | Chutt | bed time, since i checked in that tool for o_cee, and fixed seeking in wma files |
| 03:26 | riksta | they don't have to ask do they? |
| 03:27 | Chutt | what? |
| 03:27 | Chutt | people selling stuff? |
| 03:27 | Chutt | yes, they do |
| 03:27 | Chutt | and the answer is 'no'. |
| 03:27 | Octane | Chutt, i know you get throngs of people everyday harassing you and showering you with compliments, but i figure its my turn to say something: its amazing how you have "kept it real" with mythtv even with all the attention and popularity it has gotten |
| 03:27 | Beirdo | good night Chutt. :) tis bedtime |
| 03:27 | Chutt | thanks =) |
| 03:27 | riksta | Chutt: i thought under gpl they can, aslong as they contribute anything upstream |
| 03:27 | Chutt | oh, they're allowed to sell them, sure |
| 03:27 | Chutt | they just better not use my mailing lists to advertise them |
| 03:27 | riksta | ahh yeah i get ya |
| 03:28 | levon | hehe |
| 03:28 | Octane | and so, i remind you once again Chutt, my Ode to MythTV: http://octane.theidiots.org/etc/Ode_to_MythTV.txt |
| 03:28 | Chutt | heh |
| 03:31 | riksta | where is the iambic pentameter |
| 03:32 | Octane | shakespeare stole it from me |
| 03:33 | riksta | did you know an iamb is a metric foot |
| 03:34 | Octane | no i was not aware. thank you! |
| 03:34 | riksta | haha i am a goldmine |
| 03:34 | riksta | right im off |
| 03:34 | Beirdo | I should put my iamb up the arse of a few users on -users some day then |
| 03:39 | levon | lol |
| 03:39 | levon | what the hell is a metric foot |
| 03:39 | | * Beirdo shrugs |
| 03:39 | Beirdo | never heard of it before |
| 03:39 | riksta | unit of measurement |
| 03:40 | riksta | 12 inches in a foot |
| 03:40 | levon | an inch doesn't sound very metric to me ;) |
| 03:40 | riksta | err |
| 03:40 | riksta | doh |
| 03:40 | Beirdo | must be the "new metric" |
| 03:40 | riksta | sorry |
| 03:40 | riksta | thats imperial |
| 03:41 | levon | ;) |
| 03:42 | riksta | gotta dash now |
| 03:42 | Beirdo | bedtime here |
| 03:42 | levon | happy dashing, happy napping to you folks |
| 03:42 | Beirdo | well, a few hours after bedtime, but what's new :) |
| 03:42 | levon | hehe, yeah, pulled two all nighters last week myself too |
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| 04:43 | pjz_ | anyone awake? |
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| 04:50 | Dibblah | /.ed |
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| 05:47 | k-man | i get this error since i upgraded to the latest cvs... |
| 05:47 | k-man | 2005-01-31 09:26:38.498 DVB#0 ERROR - No PIDS set, please correct your channel setup. |
| 05:47 | k-man | any idea why i get this? |
| 05:47 | k-man | and how i can fix it? |
| 05:47 | k-man | i have tried to see whats wrong with my channel setup but it all looks fine |
| 05:48 | Dibblah | This is really a -users question, but since it involves CVS at the moment, I'll bite. |
| 05:48 | Dibblah | The DVB stuff in CVS has been ripped out and redone. It now automatically finds the channels / transponders. |
| 05:49 | Dibblah | Redo mythsetup, go to the channel editor, click on the new button at the bottom of the screen. |
| 05:50 | Dibblah | You'll need some "seed" transponder information - You can get this from the output of dvbscan. |
| 05:51 | k-man | Dibblah, oh... ok, so i should just delete all the old channel stuff? |
| 05:51 | Dibblah | Potentially, yes. |
| 05:51 | Dibblah | However... |
| 05:51 | k-man | dvbscan? where can i find that? |
| 05:52 | Dibblah | As always, back up your database first. |
| 05:52 | k-man | ok, thanks |
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| 06:09 | CanadaBoy | k |
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| 09:16 | thor_ | GreyFoxx, thanks, got it, will send along |
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| 09:26 | Beirdo | thor_: I'll send mine along later today after I have another chance to proofread it after my edits :) |
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| 10:06 | thor_ | Beirdo, cool, thanks |
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| 10:48 | levon | I don't know much about myth's architecture but I'd like to add another type of feed to the backend |
| 10:48 | levon | up to this point one can use dvb or v4l |
| 10:48 | levon | I guess (since myth is OO), that this is well abstracted |
| 10:48 | levon | so theoretically one could add another type of feed (let's say foo) |
| 10:49 | levon | the foo feed will obtain a dvb stream as the dvb and v4l feeds |
| 10:49 | levon | that should be doable, shouldn't it? |
| 10:49 | levon | so that the whole myth functionality would be available to just another type of input |
| 10:49 | levon | is that assumption correct? |
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| 10:56 | | * laga hopes so |
| 11:01 | | * levon too |
| 11:01 | | * laga ubertoo |
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| 11:47 | Tommck | I noticed that now there is support for handling --dd-file on the command line of mythfilldatabase. I had just added support for "--dd-custom-get" in my code that launches a custom script to get the DataDirect listings. Do you think the new --dd-file option removes the potential for my fix to go in too? |
| 11:52 | rkulagow__ | chutt: here? |
| 11:54 | Anduin | Tommck - not that it counts, by why not redefine your script in terms of --dd-file? |
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| 11:54 | Tommck | that's definitely possible. |
| 11:54 | Tommck | and not a big deal. |
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| 11:54 | Tommck | the problem is... I need to SOAP envelope |
| 11:55 | Tommck | to=the |
| 11:55 | Tommck | I don't want to have to generate it myself... and then have the format change |
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| 11:55 | Tommck | make sense Anduin? |
| 11:57 | Anduin | Tommck - yeah, that makes some sense |
| 11:58 | Tommck | that's why I wanted to embed it in the app |
| 12:10 | Tommck | I guess I'll try to submit it and see what happens |
| 12:10 | Tommck | is there a program I can run to make sure I didn't insert any tabs in the source code? |
| 12:11 | mikegrb | yes, grep |
| 12:11 | Anduin | Tommck - I use carefully (and not so) placed .vimrc files (or equiv) and when I make a patch I also look at it and /\t |
| 12:13 | Tommck | ahh.. right |
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| 12:17 | Tommck | we think 0.17 will be out this weekend? |
| 12:18 | Anduin | That is the plan. |
| 12:19 | Tommck | cool |
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| 13:04 | Chutt | new tv tuner card shipped |
| 13:04 | Tommck | which kind? |
| 13:04 | Chutt | dopester, http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-dev/2005-January/031039.html |
| 13:04 | Chutt | air2pc |
| 13:04 | Tommck | cool. |
| 13:04 | Tommck | kinda makes me wish I didn't get 2 pcHDTV cards with the stuff I've been reading about those cards |
| 13:04 | gr8nash | chutt you going to use qam cable stuff or OTA? |
| 13:05 | Chutt | cable. |
| 13:05 | Chutt | i can't get ota |
| 13:05 | gr8nash | =( |
| 13:05 | gr8nash | do you have to pay for basic cable to use the cable .. dont they filter it otherwise? |
| 13:06 | Chutt | i pay for digital cable, and i have an hd cable box. |
| 13:06 | gr8nash | ok that makes sense |
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| 13:14 | thor_ | I pay only for basic cable, and local HD channels come in QAM unencrypted |
| 13:14 | thor_ | (along with what I think is neighbors pay-per-view |
| 13:14 | thor_ | ) |
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| 13:21 | Snow-Man | thor_: haha |
| 13:24 | Beirdo | Heya, Snow-Man :) |
| 13:24 | Beirdo | saw your name fly by in my console the other day when I rebooted a server :) |
| 13:24 | Snow-Man | :) |
| 13:24 | Beirdo | something iptables-related, I think |
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| 13:26 | Beirdo | always interesting to see recognizable names in different places like that :) |
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| 13:29 | Snow-Man | Beirdo: ipt_recent, netfilter module I wrote |
| 13:29 | Beirdo | that would be it :) |
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| 13:30 | Beirdo | it flew by fast enough for me to register it mentally, but that was about it :) |
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| 15:00 | GeckoFiend | chutt around? |
| 15:00 | Chutt | yup |
| 15:00 | Chutt | how goes? |
| 15:00 | Chutt | haven't seen you in a while =) |
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| 15:01 | GeckoFiend | heh been a rough start to a new year / end of year. |
| 15:01 | GeckoFiend | just starting to get my steam back and get moving again. |
| 15:02 | Beirdo | Tis good to see you again ;) |
| 15:02 | GeckoFiend | yeah I should be around quite a bit more now. Gonna try and get the release notes ready. |
| 15:02 | Chutt | ah, cool |
| 15:02 | Chutt | been meaning to email and ask if you remembered where you stopped |
| 15:03 | Chutt | but if you do it, all the better =) |
| 15:03 | Chutt | saw your slashdot comments, too =) |
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| 15:14 | GeckoFiend | hehe yeah I hate the /. tards sometimes |
| 15:14 | Beirdo | and the rest of the time you are ignoring /.? |
| 15:15 | GeckoFiend | heh pretty much |
| 15:26 | GeckoFiend | be back in a few hours. Pesky client needs me |
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| 16:59 | o_cee | Chutt, i need to manually merge the files from the different themes afterwards? |
| 16:59 | Chutt | well, theoretically, all the themes should have identical text. |
| 17:00 | o_cee | heh yeah but they don't :) some have : at the end of a string, some don't |
| 17:00 | Chutt | ah |
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| 17:08 | o_cee | ill as hell, been sleeping all day, heh |
| 17:09 | o_cee | ThemeUI::tr("%SUBTITLE|\"|\"%"); |
| 17:09 | o_cee | i'll rip stuff like that out right? |
| 17:13 | Chutt | yup |
| 17:13 | Chutt | i think the current ones all have that removed |
| 17:13 | o_cee | yeah. |
| 17:13 | o_cee | no point translating them |
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| 17:16 | Chutt | it'd break if you translated them =) |
| 17:17 | o_cee | hehe yeah :) wasn't really that many differences between the files |
| 17:17 | o_cee | almost done merging them |
| 17:17 | Chutt | cool. |
| 17:17 | Chutt | sorry i took so long getting that in |
| 17:17 | o_cee | there's themes/default/status-ui.xml as well, do you know any more? |
| 17:17 | Chutt | not sure |
| 17:17 | o_cee | don't think so |
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| 17:18 | o_cee | heh, meld is pretty cool for diffing files |
| 17:18 | Chutt | there, got my work done for the day |
| 17:19 | o_cee | yey |
| 17:19 | Baylink | Hey, Chutt. Couple minor suggestions on language. Should I make them as patches/do I have time to make them as patches/are they already fixed? ;-) |
| 17:19 | Chutt | heh |
| 17:19 | Chutt | well, see, thing is, if we change the english version at this stage, it'll bust all the other translations |
| 17:19 | Baylink | Hmmm... |
| 17:19 | Chutt | do you mind if you wait until after 0.17? |
| 17:20 | Baylink | Well, since they're new functionality in .17, and they're misdescribed... |
| 17:20 | Baylink | Time stretch, notably. |
| 17:20 | Chutt | heh |
| 17:20 | Chutt | i just don't want to break translations a week before release :( |
| 17:21 | Baylink | And something to do with searching, which my sis will have to remind me of. Well, I don't speak the other languages, but I don't know that they're *broken* in the other languages, either. They're idiomatic. |
| 17:21 | Chutt | no no |
| 17:22 | Chutt | if the english text changes, any translation has to be updated, since the stuff that chooses which string to use is based on the english text |
| 17:22 | Baylink | On the *literal* english text? |
| 17:22 | Chutt | yeah |
| 17:22 | Baylink | Not message numbers, then, like gettext does it? |
| 17:22 | Chutt | right |
| 17:22 | Baylink | Crapdamnhell |
| 17:23 | Chutt | it _could_ be used that way |
| 17:23 | Chutt | but we're not doing it like that |
| 17:23 | Baylink | Recommend so for future releases. (For obvious reasons. :-) |
| 17:23 | Chutt | it'd be very time consuming |
| 17:24 | Chutt | essentially taking out all english text and treating it as just another translation |
| 17:25 | Baylink | Yep. |
| 17:26 | Chutt | Alioth:~/mythtv# grep -r tr\(\" * | wc -l |
| 17:26 | Chutt | 5723 |
| 17:26 | Chutt | that's a lot of work :p |
| 17:26 | Baylink | In any event (:-) calling something time-stretch, when turning it *up* makes it go *faster*, not real intuitive. |
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| 17:29 | Chutt | heh |
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